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Too many variations of shit.
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- That's a Fender amp.
- Mm hmm.
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I wouldn't recognize that one,
Bassbreaker 45.
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I have
a good question for you, though.
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In the 80s it was...
we said "Rickenbacher".
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- You guys all say Rickenbacker.
- "Rickenbacker"
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- It's "backer".
- Yeah.
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We already had a small debate earlier.
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We were from the South.
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- It's "backer", yeah.
- I think so.
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There's no "bachers." No.
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Is that one yours, Jakob?
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No, we used this one
on the record, though.
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- This is Andy's.
- Yeah, that's Andy's.
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- Want to have a look?
- Bring it over here.
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This was the folk rock special.
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All you had to do
is move your little finger.
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You can't afford the rest.
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♪ Oh, what will you give me? ♪
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♪ Say the sad bells of Rhymney ♪
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♪ Is there hope for the future? ♪
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♪ Say the brown bells of Merther ♪
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♪ Who made the mine open? ♪
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♪ Say the black bells of Rhonda ♪
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♪ Ah... Ah... ♪
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♪ Ah... Ah... ♪
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♪ Oh, the summer time is coming ♪
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♪ And the leaves are sweetly turning ♪
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They gave it the name Laurel Canyon
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because it was the locus
for all these musicians.
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It's where a lot of musicians lived.
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But they came to L.A. from everywhere.
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They came from England
and from all overAmerica.
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And probably because
of the record companies in L.A.
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They had to come to L.A.
and this was the one place
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that you could live
and it was the antithesis
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of this sort of plastic, straight world
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that you saw on television.
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To be that close
to the Sunset Strip
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and yet you had a feel
that you were in the country
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and, you know,
and totally different feel. It's beautiful.
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♪ There you stood on ♪
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♪ The edge of your feather ♪
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♪ Expecting to fly ♪
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I think I might
have been the first one to move there.
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I was living in one place, some...
some place way up the canyon.
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There was
a lot of camaraderie in the bands.
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We got to know Brian Wilson
and The Beach Boys
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and, of course, The Mamas & Papas
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when they came along.
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I'd known John and Michelle
from New York
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and Mama Cass was great,
a great social hostess.
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Laurel Canyon
was always like a hangout for,
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ah, bohemians and actors.
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It was full of charming little houses
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and it was a very joyful time.
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I loved it, because
I've always loved eccentricity.
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I mean I'm attracted to eccentrics
and they were there.
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And they were all there.
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Everyone was writing
and writing together.
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And you'd go over to someone's house
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and you always brought your guitar
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and you'd sit around
and you'd start playing,
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and pretty soon you were writing a hit.
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People would not even call.
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They'd just knock on the door and go
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"Listen, hey, listen to this!"
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That's an incredible environment
for a musician to be in
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because it's incredibly healthy
and incredibly forward-looking
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and incredibly creative
and that's how I was feeling.
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There was so much
great music floating around
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that you got little snippets of it and they...
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they just filtered through you, you know?
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Good evening.
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The great Los Angeles songwriter
Warren Zevon
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once said that...
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I miss him every day.
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He said if Roger McGuinn had
just played the opening notes
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to The Byrds' debut album
and dropped dead,
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he would have still exercised
the most pronounced influence
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over the folk rock movement in 25 years.
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And he was right.
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Because in 1965 when
those songs went on the radio,
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it was the first time a song
of poetic depth and grace
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had become a hit song
and it inspired a whole generation
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of writers to write differently
and to come to California,
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which gave birth
to the Laurel Canyon scene.
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So, the fiftieth anniversary
of that moment was this summer.
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So Jakob and I decided,
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'cause nobody else was doing anything,
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that we would make a record
of those songwriters.
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So now we're doing a show
and you're all a part of it.
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And thanks for coming
and enjoy the show!
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You guys ready to go to the 60s?
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This is so great
because the music that
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came out of the Laurel Canyon scene
in the 60s
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was not only inspiring
to other bands at that time,
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but it also became inspiring
to my generation
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of musicians and songwriters.
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And tonight is an opportunity,
like folk music,
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to pass it on to a new generation
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and keep the echoes
of that music growing.
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♪ Oh, the summer time is coming ♪
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♪ And the leaves are sweetly turning ♪
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♪ And the wild mountain thyme ♪
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♪ Blooms across the purple heather ♪
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♪ Will you go... ♪
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- Can we start over?
- I think I know it. We ready?
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I was gonna for a harmony but then I...
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What is the refrain, though?
Is it... just "will you go"?
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I like the way you're doing it.
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I just go "Will you go, will you go?"
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Sorry.
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Well, we can do it again.
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I think the refrain just comes around again.
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We just... these just kind of repeat.
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Oh, we never... what is all this?
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I never saw any of this!
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♪ Oh, the summer time is coming... ♪
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Why did we start all this?
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Well, we'd seen this movie "Model Shop".
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It reminded us
of a lot of music from the 60s
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so we decided to go back
and record some of the songs
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from the mid-60s
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and we got more and more curious
on what brought everybody here.
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Who came out here first?
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Was it people from
the east coast coming out here?
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Or was it people here
that started it just independently?
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Beach Boys were already here.
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I think The Byrds came out first
and everybody else followed.
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And how did The Byrds come to be?
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It started so innocently.
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♪ Oh yeah I'll tell you somethin' ♪
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♪ I think you'll understand ♪
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The Beatles came out.
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And I heard this on the radio...
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And I said wow, you know,
they're using folk music chord changes,
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all these passing chords.
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So, it gave me an idea
of taking an old folk song
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and suping it up with a Beatle beat.
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And I took it down to the village
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and played it at the Café Playhouse.
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And they didn't like it.
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They didn't like the rock 'n' roll
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and folk music combined.
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They thought it was kind of a bad idea.
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You know, the coolest thing
about Roger, and I...
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it was like the first day I met him,
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he came into the Playhouse Café
with a Gibson 12-string,
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and he plays
"I Wanna Hold Your Hand".
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Hmm.
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And I went "I Wanna Hold Your Hand"
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as a one guitar folk thing?
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And it was really a remarkable, ballsy thing.
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- And he did take abuse for it.
- Yeah.
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I know a lot of people
were going what's he doing?
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So I went out to L.A.
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and I got gig at the Troubadour
opening up for Hoyt Axton
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doing the same thing.
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And they didn't like it there, either.
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And that's when
I got together with Gene Clark
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and David Crosby
and we got The Byrds together.
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There was a lot of funny shit
that happened.
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Ah,
we were rehearsing
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in an old recording studio
down on Third Avenue,
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ah, World Pacific I think it was called.
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Used to be a jazz studio.
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After they were through
using the studio at night,
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we would go in there and rehearse.
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And it did The Byrds
a great deal of good because
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we would have to listen to it back.
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If you hear how awful you are
then you work harder!
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Mm hmm.
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And so, that's exactly what we did.
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And then, after we started
getting good with it, ah,
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Dylan showed up.
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You have to be more specific.
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No, I'm kidding!
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You mean there's more than one?
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Yeah!
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- Bob showed up.
- Okay.
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And he, 'cause he had heard
we were doing "Tambourine Man".
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He listened to us play it electric
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and he you can hear
the gears turning, you know.
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He knew he wanted to do that immediately.
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With The Byrds the real
accomplishment is the melding
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of, you know, folk music and rock 'n' roll
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and I mean all the bands you think of that
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as that California sound.
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Really none of them
sound exactly like The Byrds.
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♪ The reasons why ♪
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That 12-string riff
is pretty spectacular.
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That's a pretty big moment in rock music.
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That's really, you know,
two things clashing together
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in a huge wave.
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And it would create
a whole genre of music quickly.
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I loved the sound that McGuinn got out
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of the 12-string and I thought
that the way he placed that,
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and Crosby's rhythm,
you know, underpinning it,
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they were the powerful band
that we all wanted to be!
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I liked The Byrds a lot
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and I liked their kind of philosophy,
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the musical philosophy,
really, of, you know, folk rock.
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Folk rock to me was...
it was the songwriting, too.
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- Yeah, it was good.
- It was beautiful.
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♪ Oh, what will you give me?
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♪ Sang the sad bells of Rhymney ♪
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Folk music is just
an older form of songwriting.
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You learn a song from somebody,
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maybe it was your uncle
or somebody who learned it from
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a knife sharpener
who traveled through the South
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sharpening knives and scissors
who also played banjo and fiddle.
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When The Byrds came out,
there were people who disapproved
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of doing those folk songs with a band.
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But it was very infectious.
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That's a big step forward
from "Love Me Do"
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to any of those things.
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And we started to take
rock 'n' roll seriously,
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'cause, yeah, no one
took it seriously before that.
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We were putting good poetry on the radio,
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AM radio, pop radio.
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It was the first time.
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There wasn't any of that before.
It was June, Moon, Spoon.
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♪ Baby I love you Ooh, ooh ♪
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Wasn't "Dance beneath the diamond sky
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with one hand waving free."
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It changed everything for everybody.
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Yeah.
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Fiona, are you here?
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I actually met Fiona
when she was 17.
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She'll probably
be embarrassed if I say that.
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Too late now!
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Ready?
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Let's do a Byrds song.
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♪ Oh, every time I see you smile ♪
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♪ Now, come to me now, don't be long ♪
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♪ Let me tell you
how my heart goes wild ♪
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♪ Please let me love you
and it won't be wrong ♪
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♪ Every time you're in my arms ♪
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♪ Come to me, don't be long ♪
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♪ You know that
I will never do you harm ♪
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♪ Please let me love you
and it won't be wrong ♪
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♪ Let me love you
and then you'll see ♪
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♪ Now, come to me, now, come to me ♪
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♪ Let me show you once
and we'll be free ♪
246
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♪ Please let me love you
and it won't be wrong ♪
247
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The Beatles came to America
248
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and they asked them
who's your favorite band?
249
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And they said The Byrds!
250
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And we were just blown away.
251
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We kind of dressed like 'em.
252
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In fact, we bought these suits
that had black velvet collars.
253
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And we used to wear them
to Ciro's every night
254
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while we were doing our gig.
255
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That worked for about a week.
256
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We'd hang them up in the dressing room
257
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and put back our
t-shirts and jeans and go home.
258
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Well, one night we got to Ciro's
and the suits were gone.
259
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And I told this to John Lennon.
260
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He said, "I wished they'd stolen our suits."
261
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♪ Every time I see you smile ♪
262
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♪ Come to me, don't be long ♪
263
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♪ Let me tell you
how my heart goes wild ♪
264
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♪ Please let me love you
and it won't be wrong ♪
265
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We were invited to go to England
266
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and we were really jazzed because
267
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this is where
The Beatles and The Stones were.
268
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Then we got there and we
discovered we'd been billed
269
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as America's answer to The Beatles.
270
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And it was a little tough to live up to.
271
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And they came to see us
one night at the Blaises Club
272
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and Chris was so nervous
he broke a bass string.
273
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And nobody ever
breaks a bass string, but he did.
274
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Then we went upstairs after the show
275
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and John and George came up
276
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and John said "Great show!" you know.
277
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They loved us.
They were really nice to us.
278
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When we came over there finally,
they were extremely cool.
279
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Who is the young man
with the lengthy haircut
280
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to your right rear?
281
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Who is it?
282
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That's Dave
from The Byrds, a mate of ours.
283
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And then the next night
we went to the Scotch at St. James
284
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and Paul McCartney,
this is his private club.
285
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And we had a couple of drinks,
and he took me for a ride
286
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in his Aston Martin DB5 around London.
287
00:16:03,045 --> 00:16:04,536
And then we hung out at The Stones' house
288
00:16:04,547 --> 00:16:06,504
and they showed us how they rolled joints.
289
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And they had a butler that rolled joints
290
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and put them on the stairs
for them in the morning
291
00:16:11,179 --> 00:16:12,053
like the morning coffee!
292
00:16:12,054 --> 00:16:13,013
Yeah.
293
00:16:13,014 --> 00:16:14,846
The Byrds were great.
294
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They just became our friends.
295
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I mean when we came to L.A.,
296
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they came and hung out with us, you know.
297
00:16:21,189 --> 00:16:25,024
That 12-string sound was great
and the voices were great.
298
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So we loved The Byrds.
299
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They introduced us
to a hallucinogenic situation.
300
00:16:30,698 --> 00:16:31,814
Hmm.
301
00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:35,067
And, ah, we had a really good time.
302
00:16:35,077 --> 00:16:39,196
The Beatles
actually started the folk rock
303
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in California.
304
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It was... and it probably
was the California guys
305
00:16:45,713 --> 00:16:47,921
trying to grab hold of that sound.
306
00:16:48,633 --> 00:16:50,716
It's all full of strange coincidences.
307
00:16:50,718 --> 00:16:54,211
John Hall of the Rickenbacker company
flying to New York
308
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because he'd heard
The Beatles played Rickenbacker
309
00:16:56,891 --> 00:16:59,008
and going up to the suite
310
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with the second
Rickenbacker 12-string ever made,
311
00:17:03,314 --> 00:17:04,976
giving it to George.
312
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He brought it for John
313
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because he's the one
that played the Rickenbacker.
314
00:17:09,946 --> 00:17:12,313
But George had the flu,
the other three had gone out
315
00:17:12,323 --> 00:17:15,031
for a photo session,
and George nabbed the 12-string.
316
00:17:15,034 --> 00:17:15,951
Mm hmm.
317
00:17:15,952 --> 00:17:18,786
That changed pop music, you know,
318
00:17:18,788 --> 00:17:20,780
rock music I guess you would call it.
319
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We should have the nerve
to call it rock music,
320
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,162
I mean it was rock 'n' roll music.
321
00:17:25,503 --> 00:17:27,711
Everything was influencing everything.
322
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With this huge witches brew of, you know,
323
00:17:31,717 --> 00:17:33,299
and things would pop out.
324
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I mean and transatlantic, too,
'cause we were all listening
325
00:17:35,888 --> 00:17:37,880
to each other's records, you know.
326
00:17:37,890 --> 00:17:42,305
And The Beatles were
doing their cop on The Byrds
327
00:17:42,311 --> 00:17:46,726
with one song and then
they were doing The Beach Boys
328
00:17:46,732 --> 00:17:48,314
with "Girl", you know.
329
00:17:49,735 --> 00:17:54,070
♪ I wish they all could be California girls ♪
330
00:18:06,210 --> 00:18:10,204
I was a sucker for Brian's work right away.
331
00:18:10,214 --> 00:18:13,127
I was very close friends
with Felix Pappalardi
332
00:18:13,134 --> 00:18:16,047
and he was the guy
who pointed out to me
333
00:18:16,053 --> 00:18:19,592
the Bach-like qualities.
334
00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:22,216
And he said listen to this chord sequence.
335
00:18:22,226 --> 00:18:27,221
They're using like Bach
chordal movements in there.
336
00:18:27,898 --> 00:18:30,641
I mean that was really important.
337
00:18:30,651 --> 00:18:34,565
♪ Yeah, but I couldn't wait
to get back in the States ♪
338
00:18:34,572 --> 00:18:37,781
♪ Back to the cutest girls in the world ♪
339
00:18:39,201 --> 00:18:43,445
♪ I wish they all could be California girls ♪
340
00:18:53,716 --> 00:18:55,958
Well, they were the other band
that we admired.
341
00:18:57,511 --> 00:18:58,718
They were it.
342
00:18:59,055 --> 00:19:02,799
Everybody else... and they were
as establishment as they could be,
343
00:19:02,808 --> 00:19:04,424
but they were good.
344
00:19:04,435 --> 00:19:06,552
They had good songs 'cause of Brian
345
00:19:06,562 --> 00:19:08,428
and they had really interesting harmonies,
346
00:19:08,439 --> 00:19:10,897
completely different than anybody else.
347
00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:12,732
So, we liked them a lot.
348
00:19:12,735 --> 00:19:14,727
May I have,
I'm sure most everybody knows
349
00:19:14,737 --> 00:19:17,901
but for anybody who might not,
may be introduce you by name?
350
00:19:17,907 --> 00:19:19,443
- Al Jardine.
- Thank you, Al.
351
00:19:19,450 --> 00:19:20,816
- Dennis Wilson.
- Thank you.
352
00:19:20,826 --> 00:19:23,193
- Brian Wilson.
- Carl Wilson.
353
00:19:23,204 --> 00:19:24,204
Mike Love.
354
00:19:24,205 --> 00:19:26,743
Who determines
what will be done next?
355
00:19:27,458 --> 00:19:29,871
Well, I guess I do. I don't know.
356
00:19:29,877 --> 00:19:31,368
I write the songs and produce them,
357
00:19:31,379 --> 00:19:33,211
so I have a lot to say about it.
358
00:19:33,714 --> 00:19:36,377
I can't see something in Mozart
359
00:19:36,384 --> 00:19:38,671
that's better than Brian Wilson.
360
00:19:39,387 --> 00:19:41,219
I think you could make that case.
361
00:19:42,264 --> 00:19:43,926
Those guys would have loved him.
362
00:19:43,933 --> 00:19:45,140
Hmm.
363
00:19:45,726 --> 00:19:47,843
He's really just too good.
He's
364
00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:49,014
Yeah.
365
00:19:49,021 --> 00:19:53,140
He's not a guy that comes
down the pike in many lifetimes.
366
00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:55,016
That's pretty special stuff.
367
00:20:00,866 --> 00:20:05,861
♪ In this world I lock out ♪
368
00:20:05,871 --> 00:20:12,459
♪ All my worries and my fears ♪
369
00:20:13,754 --> 00:20:16,417
♪ In my room ♪
370
00:20:20,219 --> 00:20:23,053
♪ In my room ♪
371
00:20:28,686 --> 00:20:32,225
♪ I do my dreaming ♪
372
00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:35,690
♪ And my scheming ♪
373
00:20:35,693 --> 00:20:40,484
♪ Lie awake and pray ♪
374
00:20:42,867 --> 00:20:47,862
♪ Do my crying
And my sighing ♪
375
00:20:50,291 --> 00:20:56,379
♪ Laugh at yesterday ♪
376
00:20:57,423 --> 00:21:02,418
♪ Now it's dark and I'm alone ♪
377
00:21:03,846 --> 00:21:09,558
♪ But I won't be afraid ♪
378
00:21:10,603 --> 00:21:12,890
♪ In my room ♪
379
00:21:16,942 --> 00:21:19,935
♪ In my room ♪
380
00:21:20,738 --> 00:21:23,606
♪ In my room ♪
381
00:21:23,991 --> 00:21:26,950
♪ In my room ♪
382
00:21:27,453 --> 00:21:32,323
♪ In my room ♪
383
00:21:37,963 --> 00:21:41,331
"In My Room", oh my God, you know.
384
00:21:41,342 --> 00:21:46,337
Who has not, you know,
sought solace of your... the privacy
385
00:21:47,181 --> 00:21:49,889
and the solace of your own room,
your own space.
386
00:21:49,892 --> 00:21:52,350
It can be said in a million ways,
387
00:21:52,353 --> 00:21:54,970
but I mean just that...
that song was so beautiful.
388
00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:58,102
Beach Boys was a primary thing
389
00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:02,227
when Cream was kind of
philosophically driven by it,
390
00:22:02,238 --> 00:22:05,026
by the idea that we could
somehow do something like that.
391
00:22:05,032 --> 00:22:09,072
Or be inspired by that,
Pet Sounds, you know.
392
00:22:09,537 --> 00:22:13,372
They lived right down
the street from us, Brian and Marilyn.
393
00:22:13,374 --> 00:22:16,538
And one day I went over there
and the whole living room
394
00:22:16,544 --> 00:22:18,001
was full of sand.
395
00:22:18,712 --> 00:22:21,125
And there was nothing in the living room
396
00:22:21,131 --> 00:22:26,798
but a Steinway and a piano bench
and just all sand.
397
00:22:27,972 --> 00:22:31,136
And I looked at her
and I said what is going on?
398
00:22:32,017 --> 00:22:36,432
She said I know it's crazy
but he's writing some great songs.
399
00:22:36,438 --> 00:22:37,554
Mm hmm.
400
00:22:37,815 --> 00:22:39,898
And he was writing Pet Sounds!
401
00:22:44,238 --> 00:22:48,198
I won that record
on the radio, ah, on a call-in!
402
00:22:48,617 --> 00:22:52,156
Like I was standing by the phone
403
00:22:52,162 --> 00:22:54,700
and some trivia question was asked.
404
00:22:55,624 --> 00:22:58,207
I called right away and answered it
and I won a record!
405
00:22:59,420 --> 00:23:01,036
And it was Pet Sounds.
406
00:23:02,089 --> 00:23:05,423
It took me a few spins to understand, like,
407
00:23:05,426 --> 00:23:06,792
what's going on here.
408
00:23:06,802 --> 00:23:09,590
But I just fell in love with that record.
409
00:23:10,264 --> 00:23:11,380
It's different.
410
00:23:11,390 --> 00:23:13,131
You know, it's off in a corner by itself.
411
00:23:13,142 --> 00:23:15,384
Nobody else did that successfully,
412
00:23:15,394 --> 00:23:16,555
not to the level they did
413
00:23:16,562 --> 00:23:18,394
'cause they didn't have a writer like Brian.
414
00:23:18,939 --> 00:23:21,932
I was just kind of maybe too young
to really appreciate
415
00:23:21,942 --> 00:23:25,151
how incredibly sophisticated the music was.
416
00:23:25,154 --> 00:23:29,239
I just saw five guys wearing
the same shirt holding one surfboard
417
00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:30,527
and I thought it was lame.
418
00:23:30,534 --> 00:23:31,650
Hmm.
419
00:23:31,660 --> 00:23:35,119
But all that changed
when I heard Pet Sounds.
420
00:23:35,122 --> 00:23:37,705
That's said to be responsible
for Sgt. Pepper,
421
00:23:37,708 --> 00:23:38,949
you know, totally.
422
00:23:38,959 --> 00:23:41,167
Imagine a band influencing The Beatles.
423
00:23:49,136 --> 00:23:53,881
♪ I keep looking for a place to fit in ♪
424
00:23:53,891 --> 00:23:58,226
♪ Where I can speak my mind ♪
425
00:23:58,979 --> 00:24:03,724
♪ And I've been trying hard
to find the people ♪
426
00:24:03,734 --> 00:24:08,024
♪ That I won't leave behind ♪
427
00:24:08,822 --> 00:24:10,939
♪ They say I got brains ♪
428
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:15,490
♪ But they ain't doing me no good ♪
429
00:24:15,496 --> 00:24:17,988
♪ I wish they could ♪
430
00:24:18,749 --> 00:24:23,414
♪ And each time things
start to happen again ♪
431
00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:27,835
♪ I think I got something good
goin' for myself ♪
432
00:24:27,841 --> 00:24:30,299
♪ But what goes wrong ♪
433
00:24:30,928 --> 00:24:35,514
♪ Now, sometimes I feel very sad ♪
434
00:24:36,058 --> 00:24:41,053
♪ Sometimes I feel very sad ♪
435
00:24:44,566 --> 00:24:45,932
Do you want to sit at the piano?
436
00:24:45,943 --> 00:24:47,024
Does the song sound familiar to you?
437
00:24:47,027 --> 00:24:48,984
- Do you need me at the piano?
- Yeah, come on.
438
00:24:50,155 --> 00:24:51,987
We're working on a couple of your songs.
439
00:24:56,704 --> 00:24:59,196
We're working on
"Just Wasn't Made For These Times".
440
00:24:59,206 --> 00:25:01,072
What key is your original key?
Do you remember?
441
00:25:01,083 --> 00:25:02,369
My original... B-flat.
442
00:25:02,376 --> 00:25:03,492
We're in E-flat.
443
00:25:03,502 --> 00:25:05,118
E-flat, oh, you got the wrong key!
444
00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:08,079
We'll get capos.
445
00:25:08,090 --> 00:25:10,047
Yeah, play it in E-flat
or E or wherever you do.
446
00:25:10,050 --> 00:25:11,382
Okay, cool.
447
00:25:39,121 --> 00:25:41,363
Well, Bach
influenced "California Girls",
448
00:25:41,373 --> 00:25:44,912
the duh, duh-duh, duh-duh,
that kind of a beat, shuffle rhythm.
449
00:25:44,918 --> 00:25:47,410
Chuck Berry and the Four Freshmen
taught me harmony
450
00:25:47,421 --> 00:25:51,210
and Chuck Berry taught me
rock 'n' roll melodies.
451
00:25:51,216 --> 00:25:55,085
Well, I learned violin arrangement
from George Martin.
452
00:25:55,095 --> 00:25:56,927
I learned how to make...
write out, you know,
453
00:25:56,930 --> 00:25:58,466
violin for violin players.
454
00:25:58,474 --> 00:26:00,682
I wrote manuscript for them,
and they played it...
455
00:26:00,684 --> 00:26:02,550
if they played it wrong
I can walk out and go
456
00:26:02,561 --> 00:26:04,518
"You got it wrong, buddy.
You gotta do this right",
457
00:26:04,521 --> 00:26:07,434
you know, and they'd
fix their instruments and they'd do it.
458
00:26:07,441 --> 00:26:08,477
Hmm.
459
00:26:08,484 --> 00:26:11,022
Well, The Beatles were probably
my favorite group, you know.
460
00:26:11,028 --> 00:26:12,735
I really liked them a lot.
461
00:26:12,738 --> 00:26:15,572
With Rubber Soul,
one of my buddies brought it over
462
00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:16,690
and played it for me.
463
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:19,568
I said I can't believe this album! You know?
464
00:26:19,578 --> 00:26:22,286
He kept playing it and playing it
and I said wow!
465
00:26:22,289 --> 00:26:23,325
I couldn't believe it.
466
00:26:23,332 --> 00:26:25,324
That made me write
the Pet Sounds album.
467
00:26:25,334 --> 00:26:29,669
♪ Now, sometimes I feel very sad ♪
468
00:26:30,255 --> 00:26:34,716
♪ Now, sometimes I feel very sad ♪
469
00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:45,094
♪ And I guess I just
wasn't made for these times ♪
470
00:27:16,093 --> 00:27:21,885
♪ While I'm far away from you my baby ♪
471
00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:28,888
♪ I know it's hard for you my baby ♪
472
00:27:30,232 --> 00:27:35,227
♪ Because it's hard for me my baby ♪
473
00:27:36,405 --> 00:27:41,525
♪ And the darkest hour
is just before dawn ♪
474
00:27:43,495 --> 00:27:49,412
♪ Each night
before you go to bed my baby ♪
475
00:27:50,252 --> 00:27:56,624
♪ Whisper a little
prayer for me my baby ♪
476
00:27:57,342 --> 00:28:03,589
♪ Because it's hard for me my baby ♪
477
00:28:04,057 --> 00:28:08,097
♪ And the darkest hour
is just before dawn ♪
478
00:28:08,103 --> 00:28:12,689
We had the radio on
and The Byrds came on.
479
00:28:14,818 --> 00:28:16,229
I mean it was The Byrds.
480
00:28:16,236 --> 00:28:18,694
We were sure of it
because we knew them.
481
00:28:18,697 --> 00:28:20,563
We knew them personally
and we were friends with them.
482
00:28:20,574 --> 00:28:24,614
So we said God,
if The Byrds can have a hit,
483
00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:27,078
anybody can have a hit!
484
00:28:27,915 --> 00:28:28,996
Hmm.
485
00:28:28,999 --> 00:28:32,242
So, we've got to get back to L.A.
486
00:28:32,252 --> 00:28:34,084
But we were staying at the Albert Hotel.
487
00:28:34,087 --> 00:28:36,500
That's where all the musicians
kind of stayed
488
00:28:36,506 --> 00:28:38,122
when they went into town.
489
00:28:38,133 --> 00:28:40,295
And since John and I had gotten married,
490
00:28:40,302 --> 00:28:41,838
I wanted to go back home.
491
00:28:42,179 --> 00:28:45,013
And he said we can't go back home.
492
00:28:45,015 --> 00:28:46,131
We can't.
493
00:28:46,141 --> 00:28:48,758
The music business is here in New York.
494
00:28:48,769 --> 00:28:50,931
That's when he woke me up
in the middle of the night
495
00:28:50,938 --> 00:28:53,100
and he said I'm writing a song.
496
00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:54,392
Listen to this.
497
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:55,890
And he played:
498
00:28:55,901 --> 00:28:57,984
♪ All the leaves are brown ♪
499
00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:01,062
♪ And the sky is gray ♪
500
00:29:02,407 --> 00:29:04,194
♪ I've been for a walk... ♪
501
00:29:05,661 --> 00:29:07,618
♪ On a winter's day ♪
502
00:29:10,249 --> 00:29:11,706
♪ I'd be safe and warm ♪
503
00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:16,169
♪ If I was in L.A. ♪
504
00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:22,876
♪ California dreamin' ♪
505
00:29:22,886 --> 00:29:25,629
♪ On such a winter's day... ♪
506
00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:30,716
Has it been a while
since you've been in this room?
507
00:29:30,727 --> 00:29:35,722
I was just saying that
this is where we first sang
508
00:29:35,816 --> 00:29:38,354
for Lou Adler, in this studio.
509
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:39,318
In this room, too?
510
00:29:39,319 --> 00:29:41,982
We recorded in 3, but this is where we,
511
00:29:41,989 --> 00:29:44,857
just where we're standing right now,
512
00:29:44,866 --> 00:29:49,031
we sang practically
the first album for Lou.
513
00:29:49,037 --> 00:29:50,448
And what were some of the songs you sang
514
00:29:50,455 --> 00:29:51,991
in the audition that you had?
515
00:29:51,999 --> 00:29:53,991
"California Dreamin'",
516
00:29:54,001 --> 00:29:55,583
"Monday Monday",
517
00:29:55,919 --> 00:29:57,831
"Go Where You Wanna Go."
518
00:29:57,838 --> 00:29:59,750
- You had some good ones, then.
- You know.
519
00:30:00,924 --> 00:30:02,381
- Wow.
- We had some material.
520
00:30:02,384 --> 00:30:06,253
And he said, with his hat
pulled down over his nose like this,
521
00:30:06,263 --> 00:30:08,425
you know, "Why don't you
guys come back tomorrow.
522
00:30:08,432 --> 00:30:09,889
We'll talk about this tomorrow."
523
00:30:09,891 --> 00:30:11,553
"Okay."
524
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,926
And when we came back,
525
00:30:12,936 --> 00:30:16,225
the contracts were
all over the floor at Studio 3
526
00:30:16,231 --> 00:30:19,065
and they were handing out pens like here!
527
00:30:19,067 --> 00:30:21,184
Sign this! Sign this! Sign this!
528
00:30:21,194 --> 00:30:23,026
Well, then the audition went well, obviously.
529
00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:23,988
It did!
530
00:30:23,989 --> 00:30:26,697
I think the first studio I recorded in,
531
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:30,410
that's all the equipment they had,
just this little slab here.
532
00:30:31,413 --> 00:30:35,828
The piano was in the middle.
533
00:30:37,169 --> 00:30:41,539
Hal Blaine and his drums were there.
534
00:30:41,548 --> 00:30:46,293
John Phillips and his 12-string, P. F. Sloan,
535
00:30:46,303 --> 00:30:48,044
maybe Glen Campbell,
536
00:30:48,055 --> 00:30:50,593
Billy Strange, one of those guitar players...
537
00:30:50,599 --> 00:30:52,636
- All in here.
- would be in a line.
538
00:30:52,642 --> 00:30:56,477
We were at the end of a take
and Denny Doherty...
539
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,221
it was pretty wild through the night.
540
00:30:58,231 --> 00:31:00,393
It got wilder and wilder.
541
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,814
A lot of Crown Royal bags
laying everything.
542
00:31:03,820 --> 00:31:07,860
And Denny had fallen asleep on the piano.
543
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:12,777
And John said
"Denny, get up. I need a note."
544
00:31:12,788 --> 00:31:16,577
And we couldn't raise Denny.
545
00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:20,702
So, we put... got a microphone
and pulled it over here.
546
00:31:20,712 --> 00:31:21,629
Hmm.
547
00:31:21,630 --> 00:31:23,963
And put it over Denny like that.
548
00:31:23,965 --> 00:31:28,005
And John leaned down
and sang the note to him.
549
00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:31,630
Denny sang the note,
he got the note he wanted,
550
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,427
he went right back to sleep.
551
00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:36,471
But it's a fantastic room. I mean it's...
552
00:31:36,478 --> 00:31:38,765
This room looks
exactly the same I would think, no?
553
00:31:38,772 --> 00:31:40,138
The room looks exactly the same.
554
00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:42,105
The speakers are a little different.
555
00:31:42,109 --> 00:31:47,104
But the room looks
and feels exactly the same.
556
00:31:47,322 --> 00:31:50,781
♪ Bah-da bah-da-da-da ♪
557
00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:54,528
♪ Bah-da bah-da-da-da ♪
558
00:31:54,538 --> 00:31:58,077
♪ Monday, Monday ♪
559
00:32:05,674 --> 00:32:10,385
♪ It was all I hoped it would be ♪
560
00:32:11,346 --> 00:32:15,556
♪ Oh Monday mornin', Monday mornin' ♪
561
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:18,973
♪ Couldn't guarantee ♪
562
00:32:19,813 --> 00:32:26,185
♪ That Monday evenin'
you would still be here with me ♪
563
00:32:28,738 --> 00:32:31,446
♪ Monday, Monday ♪
564
00:32:32,242 --> 00:32:35,155
♪ Can't trust that day ♪
565
00:32:37,038 --> 00:32:39,121
♪ Monday, Monday ♪
566
00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:43,994
♪ Sometimes it just turns out that way ♪
567
00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:49,207
♪ Oh Monday mornin'
you gave me no warnin' ♪
568
00:32:49,217 --> 00:32:52,130
♪ Of what was to be ♪
569
00:32:53,346 --> 00:32:57,386
♪ Oh Monday, Monday
how could you leave ♪
570
00:32:57,392 --> 00:32:59,600
♪ and not take me ♪
571
00:33:02,939 --> 00:33:04,931
♪ Every other day ♪
572
00:33:06,526 --> 00:33:10,566
♪ Of the week is fine, yeah ♪
573
00:33:11,364 --> 00:33:13,481
♪ But whenever Monday comes ♪
574
00:33:13,492 --> 00:33:15,074
♪ But whenever Monday comes ♪
575
00:33:15,076 --> 00:33:22,076
♪ You can find me cryin' all of the time ♪
576
00:33:24,211 --> 00:33:28,046
It was all very, very romantic.
577
00:33:28,048 --> 00:33:31,883
We were living in the Virgin Islands
on the beach in tents.
578
00:33:31,885 --> 00:33:34,969
And it's just inevitable, it's gonna happen,
579
00:33:34,971 --> 00:33:38,965
the dynamics in a group
when there are men and women.
580
00:33:39,267 --> 00:33:41,930
You see something in a band member,
581
00:33:41,937 --> 00:33:46,932
their talent and their sexiness,
and there's a spark.
582
00:33:46,942 --> 00:33:50,151
I know that it happened
in the The Mamas & the Papas.
583
00:33:50,153 --> 00:33:53,897
I've seen it happen in almost
any group that I can think of
584
00:33:53,907 --> 00:33:55,944
that have men and women in them.
585
00:33:55,951 --> 00:33:57,408
Jefferson Airplane,
586
00:33:57,410 --> 00:33:59,026
Fleetwood Mac.
587
00:33:59,037 --> 00:34:00,824
We were so confined
588
00:34:00,830 --> 00:34:03,197
to the four of us living together all the time.
589
00:34:03,208 --> 00:34:04,665
We were always together.
590
00:34:04,668 --> 00:34:06,580
And when we were rehearsing,
591
00:34:06,586 --> 00:34:09,920
Denny and I under the table
were playing footsie.
592
00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:14,626
And Denny was also a big flirt.
593
00:34:14,636 --> 00:34:19,597
He just wanted to take it
to the maximum, you know.
594
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,761
He had a great sense of humor,
595
00:34:21,768 --> 00:34:24,681
that little look in his eye, you know.
596
00:34:25,188 --> 00:34:26,929
He was just so hot.
597
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:29,603
♪ Boys and girls ♪
598
00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:35,105
♪ You know they're birds of a feather ♪
599
00:34:36,324 --> 00:34:40,944
♪ Like two sides of a coin ♪
600
00:34:40,954 --> 00:34:44,368
♪ They are foreverjoined ♪
601
00:34:44,374 --> 00:34:49,335
On the cover of our first album
I'm lying back in Denny's arms.
602
00:34:49,337 --> 00:34:50,999
This is before we got caught.
603
00:34:51,006 --> 00:34:53,669
Really, the first night that we were together
604
00:34:53,675 --> 00:34:56,918
we had all been sitting
at the table and John and Cass,
605
00:34:56,928 --> 00:34:59,762
we looked over and they were asleep.
606
00:35:00,265 --> 00:35:03,178
And that's when Denny just got up
607
00:35:03,184 --> 00:35:06,723
and he walked over to the sliding glass door
and off we went.
608
00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:10,269
I was raised in a very free atmosphere.
609
00:35:10,567 --> 00:35:14,231
To me, having an affair was not as serious
610
00:35:14,237 --> 00:35:16,945
as it was to the rest of them.
611
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:21,989
I had had an affair before Denny
612
00:35:21,995 --> 00:35:23,952
when John and I had first gotten married.
613
00:35:24,414 --> 00:35:28,408
So, it was something that John
had already experienced with me,
614
00:35:28,418 --> 00:35:30,956
and that's when he wrote
"Go Where You Wanna Go".
615
00:35:30,962 --> 00:35:35,252
John was really crushed and upset about it
616
00:35:35,258 --> 00:35:38,171
and so the lyric of
"go where you want to go,
617
00:35:38,178 --> 00:35:39,714
do what you want to do,
618
00:35:39,721 --> 00:35:42,714
with whoever you want to do it with" bitch!
619
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:47,093
So, I mean, I was busy.
620
00:35:47,103 --> 00:35:49,390
I was a very busy girl.
621
00:35:49,397 --> 00:35:51,263
And I was having a lot of fun!
622
00:35:51,274 --> 00:35:52,731
I'm glad you said that and not me!
623
00:36:03,411 --> 00:36:06,324
♪ And you gotta go where you want to go ♪
624
00:36:06,331 --> 00:36:08,573
♪ Do what you want to do ♪
625
00:36:08,583 --> 00:36:13,248
♪ With whoever you want to do it with ♪
626
00:36:13,254 --> 00:36:15,496
♪ Go where you want to go ♪
627
00:36:15,507 --> 00:36:17,794
♪ Do what you want to do ♪
628
00:36:22,263 --> 00:36:26,257
♪ You don't understand ♪
629
00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:28,259
♪ That a girl like me ♪
630
00:36:28,269 --> 00:36:33,936
♪ Can love just one man ♪
631
00:36:36,611 --> 00:36:40,901
♪ Three thousand miles ♪
632
00:36:40,907 --> 00:36:44,321
♪ That's how far you'll go ♪
633
00:36:45,453 --> 00:36:48,787
♪ And you said to me ♪
634
00:36:49,416 --> 00:36:53,035
♪ Please ♪
635
00:36:53,420 --> 00:36:57,539
♪ Don't follow ♪
636
00:36:58,299 --> 00:37:01,212
♪ You gotta go where you want to go ♪
637
00:37:01,219 --> 00:37:03,461
♪ Do what you want to do ♪
638
00:37:03,471 --> 00:37:07,715
♪ With whoever you want to do it with ♪
639
00:37:08,017 --> 00:37:10,225
♪ Go where you want to go ♪
640
00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:12,390
♪ Do what you want to do ♪
641
00:37:12,397 --> 00:37:16,937
♪ With whoever you want to do it ♪
642
00:37:16,943 --> 00:37:20,653
♪ You don't understand ♪
643
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:24,569
♪ That a girl like me can love ♪
644
00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:29,822
♪ Just one man ♪
645
00:37:30,957 --> 00:37:35,122
♪ You've been gone a week ♪
646
00:37:35,587 --> 00:37:38,751
♪ And I tried so hard ♪
647
00:37:39,883 --> 00:37:43,797
♪ Not to be the cryin' kind ♪
648
00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:47,463
♪ Not to be the girl ♪
649
00:37:47,474 --> 00:37:52,469
♪ You left behind ♪
650
00:38:13,792 --> 00:38:15,784
♪ Go where you want to go ♪
651
00:38:16,044 --> 00:38:18,036
♪ Do what you want to do ♪
652
00:38:18,254 --> 00:38:22,589
♪ With whoever you want to do it ♪
653
00:38:22,592 --> 00:38:25,084
♪ Go where you want to go ♪
654
00:38:25,094 --> 00:38:27,427
♪ Do what you want to do ♪
655
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,272
Oh, that is so touching!
656
00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:41,016
- Oh good, you like it.
- I love it!
657
00:38:41,027 --> 00:38:43,019
- Oh, cool.
- I love it.
658
00:38:43,029 --> 00:38:44,395
I forgot what a great song that was!
659
00:38:44,405 --> 00:38:46,021
Yeah, right?
660
00:38:46,366 --> 00:38:47,573
♪ One, two, three ♪
661
00:38:47,575 --> 00:38:48,941
♪ You're going to lose that girl ♪
662
00:38:56,376 --> 00:38:58,618
The 60s, right, it was really blessed.
663
00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:00,836
I mean all that stuff showed up at once.
664
00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:02,580
Must have been meant that way.
665
00:39:02,590 --> 00:39:05,799
But it was a nice circle of really good artists,
666
00:39:05,802 --> 00:39:07,919
well meaning artists, thinking about
667
00:39:07,929 --> 00:39:11,013
how can I make a record
as good as that one?
668
00:39:11,015 --> 00:39:12,972
Music happens
at a particular moment in time
669
00:39:12,976 --> 00:39:16,140
and it changes everything going forward.
670
00:39:16,145 --> 00:39:19,309
♪ You're going to lose that girl ♪
671
00:39:21,442 --> 00:39:26,437
I had ended up
with an acetate of Pet Sounds
672
00:39:26,823 --> 00:39:29,611
and I was going to England
673
00:39:29,617 --> 00:39:32,109
to visit my friend Andrew Oldham,
674
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,954
who is a producer of The Rolling Stones.
675
00:39:35,665 --> 00:39:37,827
And Paul McCartney came by
676
00:39:37,834 --> 00:39:39,996
and I played them Pet Sounds
677
00:39:40,003 --> 00:39:43,121
and they were listening
to everything that Brian was doing
678
00:39:43,131 --> 00:39:47,375
and thinking about how
they could use certain things
679
00:39:47,385 --> 00:39:49,627
that he was doing on Pet Sounds.
680
00:39:50,305 --> 00:39:52,592
Out of that comes Sgt. Pepper.
681
00:39:53,308 --> 00:39:55,721
There was a lot
of stuff going on.
682
00:39:55,727 --> 00:39:58,265
All those records you bought,
those vinyl... we bought,
683
00:39:58,271 --> 00:39:59,978
you weren't even born...
684
00:39:59,981 --> 00:40:03,145
were just the best.
'Cause everyone was at it.
685
00:40:03,151 --> 00:40:05,643
I have two favorite records,
as a lot of people do,
686
00:40:05,653 --> 00:40:08,646
and one of them is Pet Sounds
and the other is Sgt. Pepper.
687
00:40:08,656 --> 00:40:10,318
You can listen to the records
688
00:40:10,325 --> 00:40:14,535
and you can see the cross-pollinization.
689
00:40:14,537 --> 00:40:16,153
It was a magical thing.
690
00:40:16,789 --> 00:40:19,497
Any time something good happens,
691
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:21,412
it's gonna show up other places.
692
00:40:21,419 --> 00:40:23,285
It's gonna be mirrored back.
693
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,167
Well, that was just like cross-pollinization.
694
00:40:26,174 --> 00:40:28,882
I mean The Beatles also
grew up listening to skiffle music.
695
00:40:29,385 --> 00:40:33,095
George admits "The Bells of Rhymney"
696
00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:35,805
and "If I Needed Someone" are very similar.
697
00:40:35,808 --> 00:40:40,473
I think he sent Roger a little card about it
698
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,016
that he still has, you know.
699
00:40:42,023 --> 00:40:44,731
Someone would have
written most of a song, say,
700
00:40:44,734 --> 00:40:46,691
you know, Paul or John, and they play it
701
00:40:46,694 --> 00:40:49,357
and when it felt good okay, that's how we do it.
702
00:40:49,364 --> 00:40:51,356
We would just jam. We were buskers.
703
00:40:51,366 --> 00:40:53,858
The riff was...
704
00:40:58,122 --> 00:41:00,580
♪ Oh, what will you give me? ♪
705
00:41:01,292 --> 00:41:05,707
♪ Say the sad bells of Rhomey ♪
706
00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:08,626
Anyway, so George liked that riff and he wrote:
707
00:41:08,633 --> 00:41:11,467
♪ If I needed someone to love ♪
708
00:41:11,469 --> 00:41:12,386
based on that.
709
00:41:12,387 --> 00:41:15,004
He made a tape of it
and gave it to Derek Taylor in London.
710
00:41:15,014 --> 00:41:18,052
Derek came over to my house,
he said George wants you to know
711
00:41:18,059 --> 00:41:21,769
that he wrote this song based
on your riff in "Bells of Rhymney".
712
00:41:21,980 --> 00:41:25,189
When you hear beautiful music
it gets inside you
713
00:41:25,191 --> 00:41:27,729
and sometimes you want
to do a little something like that
714
00:41:27,735 --> 00:41:29,192
maybe, but your way.
715
00:41:29,195 --> 00:41:32,279
Or wow, he did that
so maybe I could maybe...
716
00:41:32,281 --> 00:41:34,022
and it's an open-ended thing.
717
00:41:34,033 --> 00:41:37,322
But that's fair, right? That's... that's fair.
718
00:41:37,328 --> 00:41:40,412
But, you know, outright theft
isn't that good but you...
719
00:41:42,041 --> 00:41:44,454
But in that sense
I thought it was really nice.
720
00:41:50,091 --> 00:41:51,377
You have the heavy...
721
00:41:51,384 --> 00:41:52,591
you're a little bit on the heavier side.
722
00:41:52,593 --> 00:41:54,585
You got the Pet Sounds
and the Sgt. Pepper's over there...
723
00:41:54,595 --> 00:41:56,302
I have some very good shit over here, yeah!
724
00:41:56,305 --> 00:41:57,716
I'll stick with this.
725
00:41:57,724 --> 00:42:01,092
Yeah. And these records come
726
00:42:01,102 --> 00:42:03,264
all of a sudden like an avalanche.
727
00:42:03,271 --> 00:42:04,387
Mm hmm.
728
00:42:04,397 --> 00:42:06,855
And there's nothing like them before.
729
00:42:06,858 --> 00:42:09,601
It used to be that
every time any of these came out
730
00:42:09,610 --> 00:42:13,103
it was like this giant event
731
00:42:13,114 --> 00:42:16,448
and people would talk about it
and gather together
732
00:42:16,451 --> 00:42:19,990
and put on a record in their room
and listen to the record.
733
00:42:19,996 --> 00:42:21,112
- It's so cool.
- For days.
734
00:42:21,122 --> 00:42:22,122
For days!
735
00:42:22,123 --> 00:42:27,084
And they'd be deciphering,
you know, why is he wearing this cape,
736
00:42:27,086 --> 00:42:28,998
poncho, from the Renaissance Fair.
737
00:42:30,423 --> 00:42:33,507
Yeah, one of my favorite things
about all these bands
738
00:42:33,509 --> 00:42:36,502
is that they're, in a sense,
they're sort of super groups,
739
00:42:36,512 --> 00:42:38,424
you know.
They have multiple lead singers.
740
00:42:38,431 --> 00:42:40,423
They have multiple songwriters.
741
00:42:40,433 --> 00:42:44,097
But I think the beauty of all this
is how they came together
742
00:42:44,103 --> 00:42:48,473
and brought the best of
that they had for something.
743
00:42:48,816 --> 00:42:51,604
Yeah! I mean just listen
to Buffalo Springfield
744
00:42:51,611 --> 00:42:53,603
- and all those bands.
- Yeah.
745
00:42:53,613 --> 00:42:55,696
You just get something
completely remarkable and unique
746
00:42:55,698 --> 00:42:57,155
- when it's...
- Oh, yeah...
747
00:42:57,158 --> 00:42:59,024
A combination,
a collaborative, that you can't...
748
00:42:59,035 --> 00:43:01,743
you just can't do, with all your own DNA.
749
00:43:01,746 --> 00:43:02,827
You just can't.
750
00:43:03,831 --> 00:43:05,572
Gentlemen! Gentlemen!
751
00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:07,449
Nice to see you all!
752
00:43:07,460 --> 00:43:08,792
Welcome.
753
00:43:08,795 --> 00:43:11,253
Would you be kind enough
to act as spokesman,
754
00:43:11,255 --> 00:43:13,497
introduce yourself, and then
let us know who else is involved.
755
00:43:13,508 --> 00:43:15,591
Ah, my name is Neil Young.
756
00:43:15,593 --> 00:43:16,674
All right, Neil. How do you do?
757
00:43:16,677 --> 00:43:18,339
I'm the lead guitar player.
How do you do?
758
00:43:18,346 --> 00:43:20,133
This is Richie Furay.
759
00:43:20,139 --> 00:43:21,971
Hello, Richie! Nice to see you
760
00:43:21,974 --> 00:43:24,466
- This is Steve Stills.
- Hello, Steve. Nice to see you.
761
00:43:24,477 --> 00:43:27,185
How does three Canadians
and a couple of other fellows
762
00:43:27,188 --> 00:43:29,430
all fall into together?
How did that happen?
763
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,808
Well, we, ah,
Bruce and I came to Los Angeles
764
00:43:32,819 --> 00:43:36,028
in an old hearse to try to,
you know, make stars, you know.
765
00:43:36,030 --> 00:43:37,396
We're gonna be stars.
766
00:43:37,406 --> 00:43:42,117
So, ah, we were just about to leave
and I saw him in a van
767
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,453
going the other way on Sunset
and he stopped and he...
768
00:43:44,455 --> 00:43:47,664
and we stopped and we all stopped
and then we started.
769
00:43:53,422 --> 00:43:56,335
♪ There's something happening here ♪
770
00:43:57,218 --> 00:44:00,928
♪ What it is ain't exactly clear ♪
771
00:44:02,098 --> 00:44:06,138
♪ There's a man with a gun over there ♪
772
00:44:06,894 --> 00:44:10,604
♪ Telling me I got to beware ♪
773
00:44:11,566 --> 00:44:14,934
♪ I think it's time we stop,
children, what's that sound ♪
774
00:44:14,944 --> 00:44:18,528
♪ Everybody look what's going down ♪
775
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,995
♪ Oh, hello Mr. Soul,
I dropped by to pick up a reason ♪
776
00:44:36,215 --> 00:44:37,922
♪ For the thought that I caught ♪
777
00:44:37,925 --> 00:44:41,464
♪ That my head
is the event of the season ♪
778
00:44:43,306 --> 00:44:45,389
♪ I'll cop out to the change ♪
779
00:44:45,391 --> 00:44:48,930
♪ But a stranger is putting the tease on ♪
780
00:44:55,276 --> 00:44:57,814
We were in Fort William, Ontario,
781
00:44:57,820 --> 00:45:00,528
and the owner of the club
said these guys that we,
782
00:45:00,531 --> 00:45:03,274
you know, employ regularly
are gonna come in
783
00:45:03,284 --> 00:45:08,279
and do a set in between
you guys and the main act.
784
00:45:08,372 --> 00:45:11,831
It was Neil with a little trio
called The Squires.
785
00:45:12,585 --> 00:45:14,827
And he was doing exactly
what I wanted to do,
786
00:45:14,837 --> 00:45:17,875
which was to play folk songs
on electric guitar.
787
00:45:17,882 --> 00:45:20,966
And we hung out together for a week.
788
00:45:20,968 --> 00:45:23,927
We talked and dreamt and fantasized
789
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:25,887
about what we wanted to do.
790
00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:27,756
And we were inseparable.
791
00:45:28,017 --> 00:45:31,351
Buffalo Springfield,
you know, that was a big one.
792
00:45:31,354 --> 00:45:35,348
I saw them back in '67 or '68.
793
00:45:35,358 --> 00:45:39,147
They came to Gainesville
and played with The Beach Boys.
794
00:45:39,153 --> 00:45:41,361
You know, I never got over it!
795
00:45:41,364 --> 00:45:44,607
It was a really
mind-blowing show, you know.
796
00:45:44,617 --> 00:45:48,236
It was like that's as good
as it's supposed to be, you know.
797
00:45:48,246 --> 00:45:49,407
It was maybe better.
798
00:45:49,497 --> 00:45:51,705
Buffalo Springfield had like, you know,
799
00:45:51,707 --> 00:45:56,702
just like legions of the girls that,
you know, I wanted,
800
00:45:58,130 --> 00:46:00,247
you know, were like just looking that way.
801
00:46:00,258 --> 00:46:02,466
And I thought, you know, this is...
802
00:46:02,468 --> 00:46:04,130
this must be a pretty good band.
803
00:46:04,136 --> 00:46:07,129
- We went to L.A. with Cream.
- Yeah.
804
00:46:07,139 --> 00:46:09,222
And I hadn't been there
more than about an hour
805
00:46:09,225 --> 00:46:11,387
and there was a knock at the door
and then Stephen Stills
806
00:46:11,394 --> 00:46:13,477
was there with a guitar, you know.
807
00:46:13,479 --> 00:46:14,640
He just came in.
808
00:46:14,647 --> 00:46:16,354
I took his guitar out of the case and said
809
00:46:16,357 --> 00:46:17,939
"I hear you like this".
810
00:46:17,942 --> 00:46:20,309
- He played you "Bluebird"?
- He played "Bluebird".
811
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:34,949
They'd end with this really long
"Bluebird", like, you know,
812
00:46:34,959 --> 00:46:38,373
trading guitars for...
'til it just got really intense.
813
00:46:38,379 --> 00:46:39,540
It was great.
814
00:46:39,547 --> 00:46:43,666
The Byrds picked up the Buffalo Springfield
for an opening act
815
00:46:43,676 --> 00:46:47,044
and it lasted until
David Crosby saw us for the first time
816
00:46:47,054 --> 00:46:49,546
and he says "Get them out of there.
They're too good."
817
00:46:49,557 --> 00:46:52,800
I remember thinking
when we did it this is a bad idea.
818
00:46:53,477 --> 00:46:56,970
'Cause they're -
they're really amazingly good.
819
00:46:56,981 --> 00:46:59,769
And we had hits, you know,
so we could follow them,
820
00:46:59,775 --> 00:47:02,142
but they were awfully goddamn good.
821
00:47:02,153 --> 00:47:05,396
What was good about it
is that we had a wealth of material.
822
00:47:05,406 --> 00:47:08,945
What was bad about it, it was
in really divergent directions.
823
00:47:08,951 --> 00:47:11,284
The first song we had, "Clancy",
824
00:47:11,287 --> 00:47:14,621
with the Buffalo Springfield,
we did the first take
825
00:47:14,623 --> 00:47:17,206
and the voice comes back
from the booth and said,
826
00:47:17,209 --> 00:47:20,873
"It's too long. Play it faster."
827
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:21,880
Mm hmm.
828
00:47:21,881 --> 00:47:24,965
And that's when Neil and I
looked at each other and said
829
00:47:24,967 --> 00:47:27,630
oh my God, we've gotta
learn how to do this ourselves.
830
00:47:27,636 --> 00:47:31,971
There's Neil and I'm listening
to something that he's doing.
831
00:47:31,974 --> 00:47:34,432
And that's the old original console.
832
00:47:34,435 --> 00:47:35,892
This was only 8-track.
833
00:47:35,895 --> 00:47:41,015
That's why it's an old Altec console
with like big knobs.
834
00:47:41,484 --> 00:47:44,852
And right after that,
I think we got an MCI or something
835
00:47:44,862 --> 00:47:49,402
and went to 16, which to me
was all we ever needed.
836
00:47:49,408 --> 00:47:52,116
But this is like after we obviously had learned
837
00:47:52,119 --> 00:47:54,111
to make them ourselves. I see, no...
838
00:47:54,121 --> 00:47:57,114
That's probably the engineer
that was hired for the session.
839
00:47:57,124 --> 00:47:58,285
He's gotta sit down now?
840
00:47:58,292 --> 00:48:00,955
Just go sit down there.
841
00:48:09,387 --> 00:48:12,801
♪ Where are we going love? ♪
842
00:48:13,933 --> 00:48:16,346
♪ What are you feelin'? ♪
843
00:48:17,812 --> 00:48:21,101
♪ Now that I've caught my love ♪
844
00:48:22,149 --> 00:48:24,641
♪ My head is reelin' ♪
845
00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:29,317
♪ With the questions of a thousand dreams ♪
846
00:48:29,740 --> 00:48:33,609
♪ What she's doing
what she's seen ♪
847
00:48:33,953 --> 00:48:37,412
♪ Now, come on lover talk to me ♪
848
00:48:37,415 --> 00:48:38,997
Should we talk about "Questions"?
849
00:48:38,999 --> 00:48:42,618
Well, to start with I had this what...
you know those magical days
850
00:48:42,628 --> 00:48:44,870
where a lot of stuff happens?
851
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,749
I met Judy Collins
and Eric Clapton on the same night.
852
00:48:48,759 --> 00:48:51,718
I went to the Whisky to see Eric.
853
00:48:52,012 --> 00:48:55,756
And so I'm flirting with Judy,
trying to listen to Eric,
854
00:48:55,766 --> 00:48:59,305
who's blowing my mind,
and so I'm overwhelmed.
855
00:48:59,311 --> 00:49:03,305
And then later on, Crosby had
brought Eric to my little house
856
00:49:03,315 --> 00:49:04,931
in Laurel Canyon.
857
00:49:04,942 --> 00:49:09,937
And the changes to "Questions" were derived
858
00:49:10,573 --> 00:49:15,318
from a song of Judy's called
"Since You've Asked".
859
00:49:15,327 --> 00:49:18,911
And I just took
this first three chords
860
00:49:18,914 --> 00:49:22,703
and changed the cadence and everything.
861
00:49:22,710 --> 00:49:26,294
And then it evolved into the song.
862
00:49:26,297 --> 00:49:30,462
And I think I was playing it for him
as I was trying to write it,
863
00:49:30,468 --> 00:49:34,337
and it later ended up
on a Buffalo Springfield album.
864
00:49:34,346 --> 00:49:36,554
I haven't listened to that stuff
for a long time,
865
00:49:36,557 --> 00:49:38,344
you know, the west coast music,
at all and so...
866
00:49:38,350 --> 00:49:39,309
The original version you...
867
00:49:39,310 --> 00:49:41,552
No, I haven't heard
the original version of "Questions"
868
00:49:41,562 --> 00:49:43,019
for a long, long, long time.
869
00:49:43,022 --> 00:49:44,809
And it really took me back.
870
00:49:45,316 --> 00:49:48,480
♪ What was it made you run ♪
871
00:49:49,278 --> 00:49:52,942
♪ Tryin' to get around
The questions... ♪
872
00:49:52,948 --> 00:49:56,112
It took me back to
a song that I had done, too,
873
00:49:56,118 --> 00:49:57,905
around the same time.
874
00:49:57,912 --> 00:50:03,124
Ah, a little later, actually,
called "Let It Rain".
875
00:50:03,584 --> 00:50:06,873
And it was one of the first songs I'd ever written.
876
00:50:06,879 --> 00:50:10,418
And it... and there, you know,
there's that kind of...
877
00:50:10,424 --> 00:50:12,290
I was influenced by it, I think.
878
00:50:12,301 --> 00:50:14,338
Yeah, I thought that we talked
about having, hopefully,
879
00:50:14,345 --> 00:50:16,132
you play on that song with Stephen...
880
00:50:16,138 --> 00:50:17,299
Yeah.
881
00:50:17,306 --> 00:50:20,140
I wondered if that was gonna be...
it's not gonna bother you
882
00:50:20,142 --> 00:50:22,805
that there's the...
there's a similar feel or...
883
00:50:22,811 --> 00:50:24,552
Well I didn't... I must have copped it
884
00:50:24,563 --> 00:50:25,804
and not even known, you know.
885
00:50:25,814 --> 00:50:27,305
We can edit that part right out.
886
00:50:27,316 --> 00:50:28,807
Well, no, no! I think, no,
887
00:50:28,817 --> 00:50:30,308
that's very important for people to know.
888
00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:31,319
Well Stephen owes you one.
889
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,609
♪ Come on lover, talk to me ♪
890
00:51:07,064 --> 00:51:08,350
Sorry I got lost.
891
00:51:08,357 --> 00:51:10,019
Whatever happened
in the solo section was great.
892
00:51:10,025 --> 00:51:11,482
- Cool.
- With you and Eric together.
893
00:51:11,485 --> 00:51:14,228
Yeah. When Eric's playing
in the top of the second solo,
894
00:51:14,238 --> 00:51:16,821
you know, he's playing in the higher register
895
00:51:16,824 --> 00:51:18,907
and I think anything in the lower register
896
00:51:18,909 --> 00:51:20,525
would be cool as a complement.
897
00:51:29,378 --> 00:51:32,371
♪ Where are we going love? ♪
898
00:51:33,173 --> 00:51:37,417
Eric was very meticulous
about reminding me back then,
899
00:51:37,428 --> 00:51:41,422
he said
You know, when you're doing this on stage,
900
00:51:41,432 --> 00:51:43,424
you must take turns.
901
00:51:46,437 --> 00:51:48,224
Much like schoolyard, you know.
902
00:51:48,689 --> 00:51:49,975
Gentlemanly.
903
00:52:07,124 --> 00:52:10,367
I had got an invite
to go and watch
904
00:52:10,377 --> 00:52:14,667
Buffalo Springfield rehearsing
in a house in Laurel Canyon.
905
00:52:14,673 --> 00:52:18,417
I had met this girl called
Mary Hughes who was
906
00:52:18,427 --> 00:52:21,841
the kind of beauty queen
of the Strip at that time.
907
00:52:21,847 --> 00:52:24,464
Jeff Beck was dating her
and Keith Moon was dating her
908
00:52:24,475 --> 00:52:28,185
and I somehow managed
to get into the equation.
909
00:52:28,187 --> 00:52:32,397
And I'm with this beautiful girl
and there's joints being passed around
910
00:52:32,399 --> 00:52:33,685
and they start to play.
911
00:52:33,692 --> 00:52:36,810
And they played at a level where
it wasn't too loud for everybody
912
00:52:36,820 --> 00:52:41,815
and they were rehearsing a set,
I think, to play for a show.
913
00:52:42,451 --> 00:52:44,408
And then there's a knock at the door.
914
00:52:45,037 --> 00:52:48,576
And someone goes to answer
and there's an immediate vibe
915
00:52:48,582 --> 00:52:51,575
in the room of that
something's wrong, you know.
916
00:52:52,294 --> 00:52:56,038
And they open the door
and there's a policeman standing there.
917
00:52:56,048 --> 00:52:58,756
And there's a squad car in the background.
918
00:52:58,759 --> 00:53:02,218
And he says,
"You'll have to keep it down.
919
00:53:02,221 --> 00:53:05,385
We've had some complaints about the noise.
920
00:53:05,391 --> 00:53:07,098
What's that?"
921
00:53:07,101 --> 00:53:09,514
And next thing you know,
they're in the room.
922
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,308
And I had nothing...
I had just put down a joint.
923
00:53:12,314 --> 00:53:13,395
I had nothing in my hands,
924
00:53:13,399 --> 00:53:17,143
but, ah, I was handcuffed to somebody.
925
00:53:17,152 --> 00:53:22,147
So, we were all taken to L.A. County Jail.
926
00:53:22,324 --> 00:53:26,159
Meanwhile, it was like where's...
what happened to Stephen?
927
00:53:26,161 --> 00:53:29,450
Stephen, when he realized
who was at the front door...
928
00:53:29,456 --> 00:53:30,373
Yeah!
929
00:53:30,374 --> 00:53:34,118
Jumped out the bathroom window
and ran off.
930
00:53:34,128 --> 00:53:36,120
There's a party that
we heard about, too, your...
931
00:53:36,130 --> 00:53:38,213
was it your house
that had a party in the Canyon?
932
00:53:38,215 --> 00:53:39,626
Is that the same party you mentioned?
933
00:53:39,633 --> 00:53:41,670
What? Disastrous.
934
00:53:41,677 --> 00:53:44,294
What I heard was
you were there, Eric was there,
935
00:53:44,304 --> 00:53:46,466
Neil was there, and so were the police.
936
00:53:46,473 --> 00:53:48,305
- I'd say yeah!
- That sound right?
937
00:53:48,308 --> 00:53:51,472
Neil and I were sitting
in a bedroom in the back
938
00:53:51,478 --> 00:53:53,310
and we here this.
939
00:53:53,313 --> 00:53:56,977
And I said go check that.
940
00:53:56,984 --> 00:53:59,476
I'm gonna go next door and call lawyers!
941
00:53:59,486 --> 00:54:01,398
And I book it out the back.
942
00:54:01,405 --> 00:54:04,443
So, of course, that blew up
into ruining my reputation.
943
00:54:04,450 --> 00:54:06,567
Oh, he was the guy that booked, you know.
944
00:54:06,577 --> 00:54:10,912
And, ah, and I went next door and...
945
00:54:10,914 --> 00:54:12,030
totally reprehensible.
946
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,623
I should have manned up and... and it wasn't.
947
00:54:14,626 --> 00:54:18,415
I've never lived that down
and felt awful about it ever since.
948
00:54:18,422 --> 00:54:21,039
Neil got really aggressive
and was out the door
949
00:54:21,049 --> 00:54:23,336
and he was gonna go
chase the police away.
950
00:54:23,343 --> 00:54:27,087
'Cause he's Canadian and I guess
in Canada you can do that...
951
00:54:29,349 --> 00:54:32,763
It was really exciting
to get to Los Angeles
952
00:54:32,770 --> 00:54:34,557
coming from Gainesville, Florida.
953
00:54:34,563 --> 00:54:37,476
And in my mind,
it was the weather and the girls
954
00:54:37,483 --> 00:54:41,898
and the surfing and the cars
and it was a young mentality.
955
00:54:51,455 --> 00:54:56,450
This is kind of where people
that really were big dreamers
956
00:54:56,585 --> 00:55:00,124
went to because
that's kind of allowed here.
957
00:55:00,130 --> 00:55:02,463
There are people that believe that
958
00:55:02,466 --> 00:55:06,927
it might be possible to do
something that's not ordinary.
959
00:55:06,929 --> 00:55:10,138
The first thing I remember
going down Sunset Boulevard
960
00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:12,803
looking out the car at the all
the record companies, you know.
961
00:55:12,810 --> 00:55:17,805
In those days it was MGM,
you know, Capitol, you know,
962
00:55:17,940 --> 00:55:20,523
all these labels that aren't there anymore.
963
00:55:20,526 --> 00:55:24,987
It was true. I got out there
and man, these recording studios
964
00:55:24,988 --> 00:55:29,983
are all spotless and engineers
are really remarkably good.
965
00:55:30,702 --> 00:55:33,991
This is where Phil Spector
and Brian Wilson were working.
966
00:55:33,997 --> 00:55:36,865
People started showing up here
trying to work with the engineers
967
00:55:36,875 --> 00:55:39,162
they worked with
and the studios that they worked in
968
00:55:39,169 --> 00:55:42,128
to make things sound... fat.
969
00:55:42,130 --> 00:55:44,087
In America it's very, very different.
970
00:55:44,091 --> 00:55:46,128
Abbey Road was
the only place that, basically,
971
00:55:46,134 --> 00:55:47,466
we ever recorded, right.
972
00:55:47,469 --> 00:55:51,338
There it was almost like,
ah, almost like the BBC.
973
00:55:51,348 --> 00:55:54,056
All the engineers had
these white overalls on.
974
00:55:54,059 --> 00:55:55,766
And, you know, if you wanted
to bring the bass up
975
00:55:55,769 --> 00:55:58,477
you had to go to the producer
who then went to the engineer
976
00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,891
who then brought the bass up.
977
00:55:59,898 --> 00:56:02,766
You were secondary somehow
to these people in white coats
978
00:56:02,776 --> 00:56:05,143
that were really making the music.
979
00:56:05,153 --> 00:56:07,486
They had all these
like professors guys.
980
00:56:07,489 --> 00:56:09,446
You know, scientists upstairs.
981
00:56:09,449 --> 00:56:11,065
We were in the studio.
982
00:56:11,076 --> 00:56:12,783
It's like an old 40s movie.
983
00:56:12,786 --> 00:56:14,823
Oh, what's that you want?
You want to play?
984
00:56:14,830 --> 00:56:17,163
Mm, let me see what I can do.
985
00:56:17,165 --> 00:56:21,000
Very different here.
Very much looser, much better.
986
00:56:21,253 --> 00:56:24,041
"Good Vibrations"
was recorded in four studios,
987
00:56:24,047 --> 00:56:25,163
four different studios.
988
00:56:25,173 --> 00:56:26,789
Well, each studio is different, you know?
989
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,543
Like you can't...
not any one studio's the same.
990
00:56:29,553 --> 00:56:32,011
Western was good for the,
ah, instrumentation,
991
00:56:32,014 --> 00:56:34,051
like the bass, the drums, guitars.
992
00:56:34,057 --> 00:56:36,299
Sunset Sound, I liked their tech piano.
993
00:56:36,310 --> 00:56:38,973
I used that on the bridge
to "Good Vibrations."
994
00:56:38,979 --> 00:56:40,971
Gold Star was good for just the echo.
995
00:56:40,981 --> 00:56:42,392
The echo of Gold Star was good.
996
00:56:42,399 --> 00:56:44,891
And RCA Victor,
that's where we did the vocal.
997
00:56:44,902 --> 00:56:46,859
There were so many studios.
998
00:56:46,862 --> 00:56:50,981
They had that great
RCA studio on Sunset and Ivar.
999
00:56:50,991 --> 00:56:52,903
It was a fantastic place.
1000
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:54,492
Columbia Studios.
1001
00:56:54,494 --> 00:56:56,611
And Western, you know,
1002
00:56:56,622 --> 00:56:59,410
United Western at times it was called.
1003
00:56:59,416 --> 00:57:00,623
It's still there.
1004
00:57:01,627 --> 00:57:03,289
Have you...
have you recorded here?
1005
00:57:03,295 --> 00:57:04,957
No, I've never been here.
1006
00:57:06,256 --> 00:57:08,919
Yeah, this is where
Brian Wilson, Mamas & the Papas,
1007
00:57:08,926 --> 00:57:10,758
and Buffalo Springfield recorded.
1008
00:57:10,761 --> 00:57:11,877
Yeah?
1009
00:57:12,638 --> 00:57:14,800
As well as you can see
the evolution of Don Was.
1010
00:57:14,806 --> 00:57:16,297
Yeah, there he is!
1011
00:57:16,308 --> 00:57:18,095
And let's go back further.
1012
00:57:18,101 --> 00:57:19,592
And there's some more of him over there.
1013
00:57:19,603 --> 00:57:21,060
Yeah, you can here see this...
1014
00:57:21,063 --> 00:57:22,224
There's some more him down there -
1015
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:23,766
...before he really figured it out.
1016
00:57:26,652 --> 00:57:28,063
What about these guys?
1017
00:57:28,278 --> 00:57:29,814
Mm, not really familiar.
1018
00:57:33,492 --> 00:57:34,824
- That's okay.
- It's okay.
1019
00:57:34,826 --> 00:57:37,660
- This is all right here, huh?
- Yeah. It's cool.
1020
00:57:37,663 --> 00:57:39,370
Yeah, I want to record
a song by The Association.
1021
00:57:39,373 --> 00:57:40,409
Yeah!
1022
00:57:40,415 --> 00:57:42,031
They're not really marked
who's doing what,
1023
00:57:42,042 --> 00:57:43,578
but that doesn't really matter.
1024
00:57:49,341 --> 00:57:53,802
♪ You ask me if there'll come a time ♪
1025
00:57:53,804 --> 00:57:57,297
♪ When I'll grow tired of you ♪
1026
00:57:58,392 --> 00:58:00,679
♪ Never my love ♪
1027
00:58:03,355 --> 00:58:05,347
♪ Never my love ♪
1028
00:58:12,030 --> 00:58:13,817
Let's do it.
1029
00:58:26,003 --> 00:58:30,998
♪ Well, you ask me if there'll come a time ♪
1030
00:58:31,174 --> 00:58:34,758
♪ When I'll grow tired of you ♪
1031
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,967
♪ Never my love ♪
1032
00:58:41,977 --> 00:58:44,264
♪ Never my love ♪
1033
00:58:47,482 --> 00:58:52,193
♪ You wonder if this heart of mine ♪
1034
00:58:52,654 --> 00:58:56,147
♪ Will lose its desire for you ♪
1035
00:58:57,993 --> 00:59:00,076
♪ Never my love ♪
1036
00:59:03,415 --> 00:59:05,577
♪ Never my love ♪
1037
00:59:08,712 --> 00:59:12,456
♪ Now, how can you think love will end ♪
1038
00:59:12,466 --> 00:59:16,585
♪ When I've asked you
to spend your whole life ♪
1039
00:59:19,973 --> 00:59:22,056
♪ With me ♪
1040
00:59:27,481 --> 00:59:31,976
♪ Buh-buh buh, Buh-buh ♪
1041
00:59:32,736 --> 00:59:36,104
♪ Buh-buh-buh ♪
1042
00:59:38,116 --> 00:59:40,324
♪ Never my love ♪
1043
00:59:43,413 --> 00:59:45,655
♪ Never my love ♪
1044
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:52,329
♪ What makes you think love will end ♪
1045
00:59:52,339 --> 00:59:56,379
♪ When I've asked you
to spend your whole life ♪
1046
01:00:00,097 --> 01:00:01,759
♪ With me ♪
1047
01:00:02,349 --> 01:00:05,763
♪ With me ♪
1048
01:00:07,395 --> 01:00:11,810
♪ Buh-buh, buh-buh, Buh-buh ♪
1049
01:00:12,776 --> 01:00:15,814
♪ Buh-buh, buh-buh ♪
1050
01:00:18,073 --> 01:00:20,190
♪ Never my love ♪
1051
01:00:23,495 --> 01:00:25,657
♪ Never my love ♪
1052
01:00:34,881 --> 01:00:36,838
I was driving down Sunset
and I turned on
1053
01:00:36,842 --> 01:00:39,129
one of those roads
that leads up into the hills
1054
01:00:39,136 --> 01:00:41,344
and I stopped at this place
that overlooks the whole city.
1055
01:00:41,346 --> 01:00:42,928
It was fantastic.
1056
01:00:42,931 --> 01:00:45,093
I suddenly felt exhilarated there.
1057
01:00:45,517 --> 01:00:48,134
I was really moved
by the geometry of the place,
1058
01:00:48,145 --> 01:00:49,306
its harmony.
1059
01:00:50,438 --> 01:00:52,145
It's a fabulous city.
1060
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,312
To think some people
claim it's an ugly city
1061
01:00:55,318 --> 01:00:57,901
when it's really pure poetry,
it just kills me.
1062
01:00:58,363 --> 01:01:02,152
I wanted to build something right then,
create something.
1063
01:01:07,956 --> 01:01:09,163
I used to love L.A.
1064
01:01:09,166 --> 01:01:11,249
when I was first there in the early 60s.
1065
01:01:11,251 --> 01:01:14,039
You can drive around and smell
the orange blossoms, you know.
1066
01:01:14,045 --> 01:01:15,581
It was really cool.
1067
01:01:16,006 --> 01:01:17,838
We moved into Laurel Canyon
1068
01:01:17,841 --> 01:01:19,582
and we just loved the scene there.
1069
01:01:19,593 --> 01:01:21,630
And a lot of people,
a lot of folk singers would come around
1070
01:01:21,636 --> 01:01:24,174
and play and we'd,
you know, get high and stuff.
1071
01:01:24,181 --> 01:01:25,672
It was fan... a fun time.
1072
01:01:25,682 --> 01:01:28,720
Just driving up those canyons
and people pointing out houses
1073
01:01:28,727 --> 01:01:30,343
of famous people that lived there,
1074
01:01:30,353 --> 01:01:33,016
Houdini and Tom Mix and Zappa
1075
01:01:33,023 --> 01:01:35,481
and, you know, it was a fabulous time.
1076
01:01:42,574 --> 01:01:46,158
♪ I need somebody groovy ♪
1077
01:01:46,494 --> 01:01:50,454
♪ Someone who's able to move me, yeah ♪
1078
01:01:51,625 --> 01:01:54,493
Any time you
drove by the Canyon Store
1079
01:01:54,502 --> 01:01:56,243
you saw some pop hero.
1080
01:01:57,005 --> 01:02:00,214
There's David Crosby, you know!
1081
01:02:00,217 --> 01:02:02,504
There were people
from everywhere in Laurel Canyon.
1082
01:02:02,510 --> 01:02:04,342
In '66 it was teeming.
1083
01:02:04,346 --> 01:02:05,678
And you might see anybody.
1084
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,218
Like I one time saw
Crosby blow through there
1085
01:02:08,225 --> 01:02:09,932
and scoop up these two girls.
1086
01:02:09,935 --> 01:02:11,892
And he was wearing a cape, by the way.
1087
01:02:13,980 --> 01:02:16,142
Disappeared, you know, into the night!
1088
01:02:16,149 --> 01:02:18,687
Frank Zappa lived across the street.
1089
01:02:18,693 --> 01:02:20,901
And he once stood in the middle of the street
1090
01:02:20,904 --> 01:02:24,113
reading me the lyrics of
"Who Are The Brain Police",
1091
01:02:24,115 --> 01:02:26,983
like Alan Ginsberg. It was...
1092
01:02:27,661 --> 01:02:29,903
And I kept going whoa! Whoa! Whoa!
1093
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:35,955
And then I heard Frank Zappa
do an orchestration
1094
01:02:35,961 --> 01:02:38,704
on a track without the yelling over it.
1095
01:02:38,964 --> 01:02:42,002
And it was... it was otherworldly.
1096
01:02:42,008 --> 01:02:44,500
It was really... really incredible.
1097
01:02:44,511 --> 01:02:47,094
There's not the kind of scene
there is in New York
1098
01:02:47,097 --> 01:02:49,510
and the east coast cities
where there's a club you go to.
1099
01:02:49,516 --> 01:02:52,509
We would go over to people's houses
1100
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:55,683
and yak it up for hours and hours!
1101
01:02:55,689 --> 01:02:57,271
And play music, you know.
1102
01:02:57,274 --> 01:02:59,106
All kinds of music all the time.
1103
01:03:11,454 --> 01:03:13,491
I wrote a song
with Brian Wilson one time.
1104
01:03:13,498 --> 01:03:14,989
Brian came over to my house.
1105
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,663
I said wow.
He had never come over before.
1106
01:03:17,669 --> 01:03:20,412
And he came up and he said,
"You got any speed?"
1107
01:03:20,422 --> 01:03:22,630
And I said, "I think so."
I went to the medicine cabinet
1108
01:03:22,632 --> 01:03:25,090
and I gave him two Biphetamine 20s.
1109
01:03:25,093 --> 01:03:26,800
He... he wanted two.
1110
01:03:26,803 --> 01:03:29,716
And this is about,
mm, 4:00 in the afternoon.
1111
01:03:29,723 --> 01:03:31,589
We started playing a song.
It was like a...
1112
01:03:33,476 --> 01:03:35,559
Okay, we're playing that
and we're playing that and playing that.
1113
01:03:35,562 --> 01:03:38,646
And it finally gets dark and I go to bed.
1114
01:03:38,648 --> 01:03:41,106
And, you know, seven,
eight hours later I got up
1115
01:03:41,109 --> 01:03:43,817
and Brian is still at the piano going...
1116
01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:45,982
- Still playing the same figure?
- Yeah, same song, yeah!
1117
01:03:45,989 --> 01:03:47,821
- Really fast.
- It's only got one verse.
1118
01:03:47,824 --> 01:03:50,362
And they finally released it,
called it "Ding Dang".
1119
01:03:50,368 --> 01:03:52,451
And whenever I see Brian
these days he points at me
1120
01:03:52,454 --> 01:03:53,570
and goes "Ding dang!"
1121
01:03:54,581 --> 01:03:56,994
There's a lot of strange stuff happening here.
1122
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,836
George and I just drove up
to wherever Micky Dolenz lived
1123
01:04:01,838 --> 01:04:05,832
and Stephen Stills was there
and several other people.
1124
01:04:06,509 --> 01:04:09,092
And they were all
being hippies in the nude.
1125
01:04:09,095 --> 01:04:11,007
And when they saw
it was George and I driving
1126
01:04:11,014 --> 01:04:13,176
they all run in and got dressed!
1127
01:04:13,183 --> 01:04:16,347
And we were going
well, that's not very hippie.
1128
01:04:16,353 --> 01:04:18,686
You just felt like
you could do anything, you know.
1129
01:04:18,688 --> 01:04:22,477
You just felt like
there was nothing stopping you,
1130
01:04:22,484 --> 01:04:25,192
is the way that...
and Hollywood was right there
1131
01:04:25,195 --> 01:04:28,233
and the music industry, or a good part of it.
1132
01:04:28,239 --> 01:04:30,856
And Sunset Boulevard, you know.
1133
01:04:31,659 --> 01:04:34,493
It just... it reeked of what happened in the 40s
1134
01:04:34,496 --> 01:04:39,491
with the movie stars and that lifestyle.
1135
01:04:39,793 --> 01:04:44,504
And, in a sense,
we emulated it in a different way.
1136
01:04:44,839 --> 01:04:47,502
There's a certain thing
about freedom of spirit,
1137
01:04:47,509 --> 01:04:50,502
a certain thing about lack of rules,
1138
01:04:50,512 --> 01:04:54,096
lack of previous stuff holding you in place.
1139
01:04:54,808 --> 01:04:57,175
Certain people wound up,
you know, in certain places
1140
01:04:57,185 --> 01:04:59,427
and chemistries happened
1141
01:04:59,437 --> 01:05:02,396
and they inspired other
chemistries around them.
1142
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,938
I kind of compare it with
Vienna at the turn of the century
1143
01:05:05,944 --> 01:05:09,187
when all those architects
and painters and furniture builders
1144
01:05:09,197 --> 01:05:10,904
would drink massive amounts of coffee,
1145
01:05:10,907 --> 01:05:13,365
and what are you doing
and what are you working on now?
1146
01:05:13,368 --> 01:05:16,031
Paris in the 30s with Gertrude Stein and all,
1147
01:05:16,037 --> 01:05:18,029
you know, all those artists coming together.
1148
01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:22,204
But I think this era, in time,
is gonna be treated exactly the same way
1149
01:05:22,210 --> 01:05:24,623
in a couple of hundred years by the historians.
1150
01:05:26,047 --> 01:05:29,006
The power of music is undeniable.
1151
01:05:29,717 --> 01:05:32,300
I truly believe it can change the world.
1152
01:05:32,303 --> 01:05:33,339
I do.
1153
01:05:33,888 --> 01:05:35,470
Small ways, but...
1154
01:05:39,018 --> 01:05:40,475
I'm not letting this go!
1155
01:06:01,916 --> 01:06:04,659
♪ I think I'm goin' back ♪
1156
01:06:05,462 --> 01:06:09,206
♪ To the things I learned so well ♪
1157
01:06:09,215 --> 01:06:11,002
♪ In my youth ♪
1158
01:06:13,845 --> 01:06:16,588
♪ I think I'm returning to ♪
1159
01:06:17,307 --> 01:06:21,176
♪ Those days when I was young enough ♪
1160
01:06:21,186 --> 01:06:23,178
♪ To know the truth ♪
1161
01:06:25,356 --> 01:06:27,848
♪ Now there are no games ♪
1162
01:06:28,985 --> 01:06:31,648
♪ To only pass the time ♪
1163
01:06:33,031 --> 01:06:35,694
♪ No more electric trains ♪
1164
01:06:36,951 --> 01:06:39,785
♪ No more trees to climb ♪
1165
01:06:41,664 --> 01:06:45,999
♪ But thinking young and growing older ♪
1166
01:06:46,002 --> 01:06:47,664
♪ Is no sin ♪
1167
01:06:49,797 --> 01:06:54,667
♪ And I can play the game of life to win ♪
1168
01:06:57,847 --> 01:07:00,715
♪ I can recall the time ♪
1169
01:07:01,434 --> 01:07:07,021
♪ When I wasn't afraid
to reach out to a friend ♪
1170
01:07:09,734 --> 01:07:12,397
♪ Now I think I've got ♪
1171
01:07:13,571 --> 01:07:18,942
♪ A lot more than just my toys to lend ♪
1172
01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:23,112
♪ Now there's more to do ♪
1173
01:07:24,415 --> 01:07:27,203
♪ Than watch my sailboat glide ♪
1174
01:07:28,461 --> 01:07:32,455
♪ And every day can be ♪
1175
01:07:32,465 --> 01:07:35,333
♪ A magic carpet ride ♪
1176
01:07:37,220 --> 01:07:40,384
♪ A little bit of courage ♪
1177
01:07:41,057 --> 01:07:43,094
♪ Is all we lack ♪
1178
01:07:45,061 --> 01:07:48,179
♪ So catch me if you can ♪
1179
01:07:48,856 --> 01:07:51,018
♪ I'm goin' back ♪
1180
01:07:54,737 --> 01:07:59,823
♪ La la la
la-la la la la, la-la la la ♪
1181
01:08:02,745 --> 01:08:07,991
♪ La la la, la-la la la la,
la-la la la ♪
1182
01:08:18,136 --> 01:08:22,631
♪ La la la, la-la la la la,
la-la la la ♪
1183
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,506
You know, the politics in bands
1184
01:08:24,517 --> 01:08:25,928
it gets pretty heavy sometimes,
1185
01:08:25,935 --> 01:08:28,769
especially when one guy's
getting more songs on the record
1186
01:08:28,771 --> 01:08:30,137
than somebody else.
1187
01:08:30,148 --> 01:08:32,606
And David had written
this song about a ménage à trios.
1188
01:08:33,651 --> 01:08:38,612
♪ What can we do
now that we both love you ♪
1189
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:44,318
♪ I love you too ♪
1190
01:08:45,663 --> 01:08:48,406
♪ And I don't really see ♪
1191
01:08:48,416 --> 01:08:52,877
♪ Why can't we go on as three ♪
1192
01:08:53,463 --> 01:08:54,704
I didn't think it was appropriate
1193
01:08:54,714 --> 01:08:56,000
for what we were doing,
1194
01:08:56,007 --> 01:08:58,249
but he thought it was
cool and hip and everything.
1195
01:08:58,259 --> 01:09:01,718
And we decided
to do a Goffin and King song
1196
01:09:01,721 --> 01:09:04,964
called "Going Back"
and he was just up in arms about that.
1197
01:09:05,350 --> 01:09:06,807
It just wasn't, you know,
1198
01:09:06,809 --> 01:09:09,347
something that they thought
was in good taste, you know.
1199
01:09:09,354 --> 01:09:12,142
It was risqué,
it was out on the edge, you know.
1200
01:09:12,148 --> 01:09:13,889
To me it's not out on the edge at all.
1201
01:09:13,900 --> 01:09:15,232
It's just a love song.
1202
01:09:15,234 --> 01:09:16,600
It has happened.
1203
01:09:16,903 --> 01:09:19,020
I mean otherwise the French
wouldn't have a name for it!
1204
01:09:19,030 --> 01:09:21,067
It wasn't so much
David writing the song.
1205
01:09:21,074 --> 01:09:24,818
It was the realization that
he actually lived it, many times.
1206
01:09:24,827 --> 01:09:26,693
That was what pissed me off.
1207
01:09:26,704 --> 01:09:28,821
He knows it was a naughty song to write.
1208
01:09:28,831 --> 01:09:31,369
You gotta remember, Crosby was like Brando.
1209
01:09:31,376 --> 01:09:32,833
He had no boundaries.
1210
01:09:32,835 --> 01:09:35,418
Carole and Gerry
had moved from New York to L.A.
1211
01:09:35,421 --> 01:09:37,504
and they had starting writing songs that...
1212
01:09:37,507 --> 01:09:40,170
not the kind of girl band stuff
they'd been doing.
1213
01:09:40,176 --> 01:09:43,715
But more of like a hipper style.
1214
01:09:43,721 --> 01:09:47,010
And David was...
he was, um, insufferable.
1215
01:09:47,016 --> 01:09:48,382
He was tough to live with.
1216
01:09:48,393 --> 01:09:50,055
He didn't get his cool song on
1217
01:09:50,061 --> 01:09:53,520
and we did this kind of
really commercial song instead.
1218
01:09:53,523 --> 01:09:55,185
So, he was angry with that.
1219
01:09:55,191 --> 01:09:57,604
The breaking point
really was when Chris Hillman
1220
01:09:57,610 --> 01:10:00,728
got mad at David
and said we gotta get rid of him.
1221
01:10:00,738 --> 01:10:02,570
The fun thing is that
everybody thinks that
1222
01:10:02,573 --> 01:10:04,280
that's why they
threw me out of The Byrds.
1223
01:10:04,283 --> 01:10:05,444
Ladies and gentlemen,
1224
01:10:07,370 --> 01:10:09,908
They threw me out of The Byrds
'cause I was an asshole.
1225
01:10:09,914 --> 01:10:11,450
He was saying things like
you guys are not
1226
01:10:11,457 --> 01:10:13,824
good enough musicians
to be playing with me.
1227
01:10:13,835 --> 01:10:16,202
I went oh, really?
1228
01:10:16,212 --> 01:10:17,999
- That's not cool, you know!
- Yeah.
1229
01:10:18,005 --> 01:10:19,667
So, we didn't like that attitude very much.
1230
01:10:19,674 --> 01:10:21,666
You know, I say
it's because I was an asshole.
1231
01:10:21,676 --> 01:10:23,212
It wasn't that simple, of course.
1232
01:10:23,219 --> 01:10:24,881
If you give kids millions of dollars, you know,
1233
01:10:24,887 --> 01:10:26,003
they'll screw up.
1234
01:10:26,013 --> 01:10:27,845
We held it together for a pretty long time.
1235
01:10:27,849 --> 01:10:30,387
Bands tend to devolve.
1236
01:10:30,393 --> 01:10:32,476
They evolve up the point where they're exciting
1237
01:10:32,478 --> 01:10:34,140
and they're new and they're good,
1238
01:10:34,147 --> 01:10:36,355
and then after that they
work their way slowly downhill
1239
01:10:36,357 --> 01:10:38,895
until it's turn on the smoke machine
and play your hits.
1240
01:10:38,901 --> 01:10:40,688
And that's not good enough for me.
1241
01:10:41,237 --> 01:10:42,569
It's just not.
1242
01:10:42,822 --> 01:10:44,279
I've done it.
1243
01:10:44,282 --> 01:10:46,148
You know, 'cause it was
the path of least resistance
1244
01:10:46,159 --> 01:10:48,867
and it made me lots of money
and all that good stuff.
1245
01:10:48,870 --> 01:10:50,202
It's not good enough.
1246
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,538
♪ Now there's more to do ♪
1247
01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:57,622
♪ Than watch my sailboat glide ♪
1248
01:10:58,838 --> 01:11:01,751
♪ And every day can be ♪
1249
01:11:02,842 --> 01:11:05,550
♪ A magic carpet ride ♪
1250
01:11:07,597 --> 01:11:10,681
♪ A little bit of courage ♪
1251
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:13,387
♪ Is all we lack ♪
1252
01:11:15,438 --> 01:11:19,182
♪ So catch me if you can ♪
1253
01:11:19,192 --> 01:11:21,650
♪ I'm goin' back ♪
1254
01:11:23,362 --> 01:11:28,528
♪ La la la, la-la la la la,
la-la la la La la la, la-la ♪
1255
01:11:31,162 --> 01:11:34,530
♪ La la la, la-la ♪
1256
01:11:42,507 --> 01:11:44,715
I feel like
we hear these songs,
1257
01:11:44,717 --> 01:11:46,925
we grew up with these songs,
and then we take them for granted
1258
01:11:46,928 --> 01:11:49,341
and I feel like there's
this thing happening tonight
1259
01:11:49,347 --> 01:11:51,464
and in your hands,
and in this band's hands,
1260
01:11:51,474 --> 01:11:53,181
where you're kind of
bringing them back to life
1261
01:11:53,184 --> 01:11:54,470
and reminding us of the brilliance.
1262
01:11:54,477 --> 01:11:55,843
Can you talk a little about that?
1263
01:11:55,853 --> 01:12:00,723
It really started with, ah, seeing this film,
1264
01:12:00,733 --> 01:12:02,315
which was "Model Shop".
1265
01:12:02,318 --> 01:12:05,561
And it was a movie
in '67 done by Jacques Demy.
1266
01:12:05,571 --> 01:12:09,565
That movie looked like
the sound of The Beach Boys
1267
01:12:09,575 --> 01:12:11,111
and The Mamas & Papas.
1268
01:12:11,118 --> 01:12:15,203
And so, it sent us on
an exploration back to that time
1269
01:12:15,206 --> 01:12:18,495
and to look at the records
that, you know, made, ah,
1270
01:12:18,501 --> 01:12:21,369
made that age of innocence
of southern California writing
1271
01:12:21,379 --> 01:12:24,838
from '65 to '67, you know, come alive.
1272
01:12:25,299 --> 01:12:26,835
Most of the groups
that we're talking about,
1273
01:12:26,843 --> 01:12:29,506
that we've picked from,
I think they were...
1274
01:12:29,512 --> 01:12:32,220
those are the ones that are the premier
southern California rock bands
1275
01:12:32,223 --> 01:12:34,806
from that year at that time.
1276
01:12:37,687 --> 01:12:41,522
Something happened
there that engendered
1277
01:12:41,524 --> 01:12:45,017
a whole lot of music, a whole lot of
1278
01:12:45,027 --> 01:12:49,021
new ways of approaching the music possible.
1279
01:12:49,991 --> 01:12:51,857
Whatever it was, it was a good thing.
1280
01:12:52,285 --> 01:12:55,369
I don't think you have
to put too much effort into it, really.
1281
01:12:55,371 --> 01:12:57,283
I think they're classics.
They're timeless.
1282
01:12:57,290 --> 01:13:01,204
And a good song will sound
as good then as it'll sound today.
1283
01:13:01,210 --> 01:13:04,078
You don't have to do much.
We didn't reinvent them at all.
1284
01:13:04,088 --> 01:13:05,954
We actually stayed
pretty true to what they sounded like.
1285
01:13:05,965 --> 01:13:08,298
And oddly enough,
that sound is pretty relevant.
1286
01:13:08,301 --> 01:13:09,963
It's pretty current right now.
1287
01:13:11,637 --> 01:13:13,094
I think, you know,
people have been trying
1288
01:13:13,097 --> 01:13:14,713
to put salt on its tail for a long time,
1289
01:13:14,724 --> 01:13:17,216
trying to figure out why it happened there
1290
01:13:17,226 --> 01:13:19,013
and how it happened there.
1291
01:13:19,020 --> 01:13:23,105
And I... you can guess
1292
01:13:23,107 --> 01:13:24,814
and you can point out certain factors
1293
01:13:24,817 --> 01:13:26,900
that you think would
have been influencing it.
1294
01:13:27,111 --> 01:13:30,650
But I don't know if we'll ever get it named.
1295
01:13:31,490 --> 01:13:32,776
It did happen.
1296
01:13:33,075 --> 01:13:36,910
And it still is a place
where people come to make music.
1297
01:13:39,415 --> 01:13:43,955
Maybe it started with
this optimism of The Beatles
1298
01:13:43,961 --> 01:13:48,046
to Ed Sullivan was the beginning of '64,
1299
01:13:48,049 --> 01:13:52,510
so that is the perfect kickoff
where there's this fad, right?
1300
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:56,009
People want to be their own Beatles.
1301
01:13:56,349 --> 01:14:00,184
And then so that lasts for two,
two and a half years.
1302
01:14:00,186 --> 01:14:01,722
Well, it probably changed a lot when
1303
01:14:01,729 --> 01:14:04,437
everybody started writing
more complex, longer songs,
1304
01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:07,057
which is kind of up until
Pet Sounds and Expecting to Fly.
1305
01:14:07,068 --> 01:14:09,151
Songs were three and a half minutes
and they could do...
1306
01:14:09,153 --> 01:14:11,190
they realized they could do a lot more.
1307
01:14:11,197 --> 01:14:13,655
Don't you feel like some of these songs
1308
01:14:13,658 --> 01:14:17,277
structurally, like word-wise and sound-wise,
1309
01:14:17,286 --> 01:14:20,950
they're almost like more related to dreams?
1310
01:14:20,957 --> 01:14:23,700
Because they feel like
music before was more written
1311
01:14:23,709 --> 01:14:26,452
for like the conscious mind
and this seems to be like more
1312
01:14:26,462 --> 01:14:29,500
coming in touch with the subconscious,
1313
01:14:29,507 --> 01:14:32,045
which is on the way to psychedelia probably,
1314
01:14:32,051 --> 01:14:33,838
just that in-between?
1315
01:14:33,844 --> 01:14:35,631
Well I think we talked about
"Expecting To Fly"
1316
01:14:35,638 --> 01:14:38,255
and maybe that's the end of it?
1317
01:14:39,850 --> 01:14:41,216
You know?
1318
01:14:41,227 --> 01:14:43,719
I'm not sure I would be the one
to say why it's the end of it,
1319
01:14:43,729 --> 01:14:45,812
but that's very different than
everything else we listened to
1320
01:14:45,815 --> 01:14:48,148
and I wouldn't say more ambitious,
1321
01:14:48,150 --> 01:14:51,689
but it seemed like something
cracked open maybe right then.
1322
01:14:53,864 --> 01:14:58,859
That era begins with
this collective idea of these
1323
01:14:59,412 --> 01:15:01,779
musicians and this
creative force coming together
1324
01:15:01,789 --> 01:15:02,950
to make something bigger.
1325
01:15:02,957 --> 01:15:06,951
And then the era ends
when it becomes more
1326
01:15:06,961 --> 01:15:08,623
about the individual,
1327
01:15:08,629 --> 01:15:12,919
yeah, searching their
own life and their own path
1328
01:15:12,925 --> 01:15:17,386
and, ah, yeah, you get
all these groups breaking up.
1329
01:15:17,888 --> 01:15:21,006
When you have strong minded people
1330
01:15:21,017 --> 01:15:24,681
and they're having these
visions of a new type of art
1331
01:15:24,687 --> 01:15:28,522
and they start to compromise,
then it just doesn't last maybe.
1332
01:15:30,151 --> 01:15:32,234
What do you remember about
"Expecting To Fly"?
1333
01:15:32,236 --> 01:15:33,317
'Cause we recorded that for the record.
1334
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:34,606
What do you remember
about recording that song?
1335
01:15:34,613 --> 01:15:36,696
Actually, I wasn't allowed on those sessions.
1336
01:15:36,699 --> 01:15:37,615
You're not on that at all?
1337
01:15:37,616 --> 01:15:41,075
No, that's when Neil
had decided to take flight.
1338
01:15:41,078 --> 01:15:43,320
- That song was a warning.
- Was it?
1339
01:15:43,330 --> 01:15:45,697
- Yes, I'm leaving.
- Really?
1340
01:15:45,708 --> 01:15:48,200
And I'm going to wait until it's absolutely
1341
01:15:48,210 --> 01:15:51,203
critically important
to the survival of the band,
1342
01:15:51,213 --> 01:15:54,957
like the night before Johnny Carson
booked the first rock band.
1343
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,753
Neil quit the day before
we we're getting on the plane.
1344
01:16:30,503 --> 01:16:35,498
♪ There you stood on the edge of your feather ♪
1345
01:16:36,884 --> 01:16:40,673
♪ Expecting to fly ♪
1346
01:16:42,431 --> 01:16:47,426
♪ While I laughed
and I wondered whether ♪
1347
01:16:48,687 --> 01:16:52,556
♪ I could wave goodbye ♪
1348
01:16:54,944 --> 01:16:59,188
♪ Knowin' that you'd gone ♪
1349
01:17:03,869 --> 01:17:08,830
♪ By the summer it was healing ♪
1350
01:17:10,084 --> 01:17:13,043
♪ And we had said goodbye ♪
1351
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:19,716
♪ All the years we'd spent with feeling ♪
1352
01:17:21,178 --> 01:17:23,921
♪ Ended with a cry ♪
1353
01:17:25,349 --> 01:17:28,683
♪ Babe ♪
1354
01:17:29,562 --> 01:17:32,225
♪ Ended with a cry ♪
1355
01:17:33,524 --> 01:17:36,517
♪ Babe ♪
1356
01:17:37,736 --> 01:17:40,479
♪ Ended with a cry ♪
1357
01:17:57,047 --> 01:18:02,634
♪ I tried so hard to stand as I stumbled ♪
1358
01:18:03,888 --> 01:18:07,802
♪ And fell to the ground ♪
1359
01:18:08,893 --> 01:18:11,886
♪ So hard to laugh ♪
1360
01:18:11,896 --> 01:18:14,388
♪ As I fumbled ♪
1361
01:18:15,524 --> 01:18:20,019
♪ And reached for the love I found ♪
1362
01:18:21,697 --> 01:18:25,691
♪ Knowin' it was gone ♪
1363
01:18:30,581 --> 01:18:35,576
♪ If I never lived without you ♪
1364
01:18:37,087 --> 01:18:40,046
♪ Now you know I'd die ♪
1365
01:18:41,592 --> 01:18:46,462
♪ If I never said I loved you ♪
1366
01:18:47,848 --> 01:18:50,807
♪ Well now you know I'd try ♪
1367
01:18:52,186 --> 01:18:55,304
♪ Babe ♪
1368
01:18:56,232 --> 01:18:58,849
♪ Now you know I'd try ♪
1369
01:19:00,486 --> 01:19:03,479
♪ Babe ♪
1370
01:19:04,615 --> 01:19:07,198
♪ Now you know I'd try ♪
1371
01:19:08,661 --> 01:19:12,200
♪ Babe ♪
1372
01:19:12,873 --> 01:19:15,786
♪ Now you know I'd try ♪
1373
01:19:31,308 --> 01:19:33,220
♪ I don't know ♪
1374
01:19:36,814 --> 01:19:39,431
♪ What's going on here ♪
1375
01:19:40,651 --> 01:19:42,608
♪ And I don't know ♪
1376
01:19:45,155 --> 01:19:48,739
♪ How it's supposed to be ♪
1377
01:20:01,797 --> 01:20:03,834
♪ Oh, I don't have ♪
1378
01:20:07,303 --> 01:20:09,886
♪ The vaguest notion ♪
1379
01:20:11,223 --> 01:20:12,964
♪ Whose it is ♪
1380
01:20:16,603 --> 01:20:20,813
♪ Or what it's all for ♪
1381
01:20:32,453 --> 01:20:34,319
♪ I don't know ♪
1382
01:20:37,875 --> 01:20:40,709
♪ And I'm not cryin' ♪
1383
01:20:41,712 --> 01:20:44,204
♪ Laughin' mostly ♪
1384
01:20:47,217 --> 01:20:51,336
♪ As you can see ♪