1 00:00:17,083 --> 00:00:18,417 The bill proposes to measure 2 00:00:18,419 --> 00:00:19,718 body mass index, BMI... 3 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,087 That's what we're doing here today, 4 00:00:22,089 --> 00:00:24,790 address the core problems we face. 5 00:00:24,792 --> 00:00:26,158 And this is a great move forward, 6 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,693 so I support the bill. 7 00:00:27,695 --> 00:00:30,596 It's not like I don't respect authority, 8 00:00:30,598 --> 00:00:32,965 or believe in our government, 9 00:00:32,967 --> 00:00:35,401 or trust the adults who are in charge of us. 10 00:00:35,403 --> 00:00:38,871 We do hearing the objection title that was agreed to. 11 00:00:38,873 --> 00:00:40,139 It's just that... 12 00:00:40,141 --> 00:00:42,975 Well, the past year has changed the way 13 00:00:42,977 --> 00:00:45,210 I understand the world. 14 00:00:50,050 --> 00:00:52,818 Just one year ago, I was a junior in high school, 15 00:00:52,820 --> 00:00:54,953 worrying about doing my homework, 16 00:00:54,955 --> 00:00:57,689 looking forward to getting my driver's license, 17 00:00:57,691 --> 00:00:59,491 and doing my best to fit in 18 00:00:59,493 --> 00:01:01,160 and make friends. 19 00:01:02,229 --> 00:01:03,662 And now, here I am 20 00:01:03,664 --> 00:01:06,265 in the middle of a national controversy, 21 00:01:06,267 --> 00:01:07,766 in the personal debate 22 00:01:07,768 --> 00:01:09,868 with our public officials, 23 00:01:09,870 --> 00:01:13,739 all over the simplest thing in the world, 24 00:01:13,741 --> 00:01:15,174 a number. 25 00:01:18,479 --> 00:01:20,746 But this isn't just any number. 26 00:01:20,748 --> 00:01:23,315 This number is special. 27 00:01:23,317 --> 00:01:25,684 To get it, you take one number, 28 00:01:25,686 --> 00:01:28,554 divide it by another which has been squared, 29 00:01:28,556 --> 00:01:30,189 and then multiply that 30 00:01:30,191 --> 00:01:33,025 by seven hundred and three. 31 00:01:33,027 --> 00:01:36,495 The resulting number is, well, 32 00:01:36,497 --> 00:01:37,863 magic. 33 00:01:40,468 --> 00:01:43,435 This one number tells a story, 34 00:01:43,437 --> 00:01:45,404 a story about your past 35 00:01:45,406 --> 00:01:48,474 and even predicts your future. 36 00:01:48,476 --> 00:01:51,143 Obviously, a number that holds this much power 37 00:01:51,145 --> 00:01:52,978 would be valuable. 38 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:54,580 And this one is. 39 00:01:54,582 --> 00:01:56,548 So much so that some people 40 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:58,484 try to keep their number secret 41 00:01:58,486 --> 00:02:01,386 for fear of what it might tell, 42 00:02:01,388 --> 00:02:04,890 while others don't believe in the number at all. 43 00:02:06,126 --> 00:02:07,526 Then there are those, 44 00:02:07,528 --> 00:02:09,428 even in our own government, 45 00:02:09,430 --> 00:02:11,964 who believe in the number's power so much 46 00:02:11,966 --> 00:02:14,933 that they fight to gain access to yours, 47 00:02:14,935 --> 00:02:17,069 using the number to determine whether or not 48 00:02:17,071 --> 00:02:19,037 you are acceptable. 49 00:02:19,039 --> 00:02:21,373 Yes, acceptable. 50 00:02:21,375 --> 00:02:22,774 Not my words. 51 00:02:22,776 --> 00:02:24,309 Theirs. 52 00:02:24,311 --> 00:02:26,578 But I'm getting ahead of myself. 53 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:27,880 Maybe I should back up, 54 00:02:27,882 --> 00:02:29,381 you know, to the beginning. 55 00:02:29,383 --> 00:02:31,283 Or at least my beginning 56 00:02:31,285 --> 00:02:34,052 and to what brought me to this point, 57 00:02:34,054 --> 00:02:37,456 fighting over a simple number. 58 00:02:42,362 --> 00:02:45,464 - Dum, dum, dum... - Looking back, 59 00:02:45,466 --> 00:02:48,233 I kind of feel bad for what I put my parents through. 60 00:02:48,235 --> 00:02:50,435 That's good, Bailey. You having fun? 61 00:02:51,504 --> 00:02:52,738 No? 62 00:02:52,740 --> 00:02:55,574 Apparently, I wasn't a pleaser. 63 00:02:55,576 --> 00:02:57,476 Hello. 64 00:02:57,478 --> 00:03:01,079 When asked a question, I would just grunt. 65 00:03:01,081 --> 00:03:03,849 I hated costumes and school plays, 66 00:03:03,851 --> 00:03:06,351 despised being paraded around 67 00:03:06,353 --> 00:03:09,354 and refused to perform for anyone. 68 00:03:11,559 --> 00:03:13,058 That's me right there 69 00:03:13,060 --> 00:03:14,993 at my first public protest 70 00:03:14,995 --> 00:03:17,429 at age four. 71 00:03:17,431 --> 00:03:19,631 Hugs were out of the question. 72 00:03:19,633 --> 00:03:21,500 No smiling for pictures. 73 00:03:21,502 --> 00:03:24,436 Yeah, here's an Easter smile for you. 74 00:03:24,438 --> 00:03:26,772 Some friends even gave my parents a book 75 00:03:26,774 --> 00:03:29,241 called the strong- willed child. 76 00:03:29,243 --> 00:03:31,176 I guess, it was supposed to teach them 77 00:03:31,178 --> 00:03:33,378 how to deal with me or something. 78 00:03:35,950 --> 00:03:37,482 This is where I live, 79 00:03:37,484 --> 00:03:40,852 a small, historic town in Ohio. 80 00:03:40,854 --> 00:03:43,455 After school, we can walk down main street, 81 00:03:43,457 --> 00:03:45,457 pass the old garage, 82 00:03:45,459 --> 00:03:47,626 pass the church on the corner, 83 00:03:47,628 --> 00:03:50,229 and hang out at the ice cream parlor, 84 00:03:50,231 --> 00:03:52,030 which is right across the street 85 00:03:52,032 --> 00:03:53,999 from the gun shop. 86 00:03:54,001 --> 00:03:56,535 Yup, it doesn't get any more American 87 00:03:56,537 --> 00:03:57,869 than this. 88 00:03:59,006 --> 00:04:00,505 And this is my high school, 89 00:04:00,507 --> 00:04:02,741 where I was taught that we have the greatest government 90 00:04:02,743 --> 00:04:04,409 in the world. 91 00:04:04,411 --> 00:04:06,478 This is also where I learned to, 92 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,547 well, behave. 93 00:04:08,549 --> 00:04:10,382 Remember that strong-willed child 94 00:04:10,384 --> 00:04:12,317 who was always making a fuss? 95 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:15,554 She eventually became the soft-spoken, polite kid 96 00:04:15,556 --> 00:04:17,856 that barely anyone notices. 97 00:04:17,858 --> 00:04:19,625 I pretty much keep to myself, 98 00:04:19,627 --> 00:04:20,892 stay out of trouble, 99 00:04:20,894 --> 00:04:24,229 and never, ever question authority. 100 00:04:26,567 --> 00:04:28,433 That is until last year 101 00:04:28,435 --> 00:04:29,868 when a bunch of us students 102 00:04:29,870 --> 00:04:32,404 decided to stage a protest. 103 00:04:35,042 --> 00:04:37,342 There was friction between the new school board 104 00:04:37,344 --> 00:04:38,443 and our principal, 105 00:04:38,445 --> 00:04:39,711 so the board decided 106 00:04:39,713 --> 00:04:43,348 to promote him right out of his job. 107 00:04:43,350 --> 00:04:45,517 But us students weren't having it. 108 00:04:45,519 --> 00:04:46,752 Our top story today. 109 00:04:46,754 --> 00:04:48,887 High school students dressed in black 110 00:04:48,889 --> 00:04:50,389 storm the school board meeting 111 00:04:50,391 --> 00:04:53,125 in which their beloved principal was voted out 112 00:04:53,127 --> 00:04:55,794 and removed from his position. 113 00:04:55,796 --> 00:04:57,596 This was the first time that I've ever held 114 00:04:57,598 --> 00:04:58,930 a protest sign 115 00:04:58,932 --> 00:05:01,199 or chanted on a public official. 116 00:05:01,201 --> 00:05:04,836 Principal and instead... 117 00:05:04,838 --> 00:05:07,406 I had my first taste of democracy 118 00:05:07,408 --> 00:05:09,207 and it tasted great. 119 00:05:09,209 --> 00:05:12,077 Are more likely to succeed in this group... 120 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:14,246 In the end, the board backed down 121 00:05:14,248 --> 00:05:16,148 and our principal kept his job. 122 00:05:17,718 --> 00:05:19,084 It was then that I realized 123 00:05:19,086 --> 00:05:22,154 that even kids have a powerful voice, 124 00:05:22,156 --> 00:05:24,990 and I think I was finding mine again. 125 00:05:24,992 --> 00:05:26,825 When asked, school officials did admit 126 00:05:26,827 --> 00:05:29,161 that the outpouring of support had an effect 127 00:05:29,163 --> 00:05:30,729 on the decision made tonight. 128 00:05:30,731 --> 00:05:33,265 Reporting live in Springboro, Holly Samuels, 2 news. 129 00:05:33,267 --> 00:05:34,866 This feeling of empowerment 130 00:05:34,868 --> 00:05:36,601 must have been contagious 131 00:05:36,603 --> 00:05:38,036 because a month later, 132 00:05:38,038 --> 00:05:39,805 at another school board meeting, 133 00:05:39,807 --> 00:05:41,707 a sixth-grader named Maddie 134 00:05:41,709 --> 00:05:44,676 bravely addressed the board all alone. 135 00:05:44,678 --> 00:05:46,712 But this time, it was about something 136 00:05:46,714 --> 00:05:48,113 more disturbing. 137 00:05:48,115 --> 00:05:49,715 I also received a letter from the school nurse 138 00:05:49,717 --> 00:05:51,383 addressed to me. 139 00:05:51,385 --> 00:05:52,784 As I read the letter, I was crushed, 140 00:05:52,786 --> 00:05:54,353 discovered the school is telling me 141 00:05:54,355 --> 00:05:56,521 that was not the healthy way. 142 00:05:56,523 --> 00:05:58,557 Apparently, the school district have been performing 143 00:05:58,559 --> 00:06:01,760 body mass index test on our students 144 00:06:01,762 --> 00:06:03,729 and then sent letters out to kids 145 00:06:03,731 --> 00:06:05,030 whose number didn't fall 146 00:06:05,032 --> 00:06:07,999 within an acceptable range. 147 00:06:08,001 --> 00:06:09,601 I felt betrayed by the school 148 00:06:09,603 --> 00:06:11,670 because I could fit in to the school's idea 149 00:06:11,672 --> 00:06:13,205 of what a kid should be. 150 00:06:13,207 --> 00:06:15,240 Schools always supposed to be a safe place, 151 00:06:15,242 --> 00:06:16,808 somewhere I could feel accepted, 152 00:06:16,810 --> 00:06:18,110 proud of my accomplishments, 153 00:06:18,112 --> 00:06:19,511 and not put down. 154 00:06:19,513 --> 00:06:21,346 I'm active in sports and have a healthy... 155 00:06:21,348 --> 00:06:23,281 This girl was inspirational. 156 00:06:23,283 --> 00:06:25,951 The board promptly apologized for the mistake 157 00:06:25,953 --> 00:06:27,619 and the moment was just magical. 158 00:06:30,424 --> 00:06:32,023 And while Maddie got the apology 159 00:06:32,025 --> 00:06:33,358 she was looking for, 160 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,693 it made me wonder. 161 00:06:34,695 --> 00:06:37,229 Was this really a mistake? 162 00:06:37,231 --> 00:06:39,865 I mean, this letter didn't mail itself. 163 00:06:39,867 --> 00:06:42,634 And how many other students got these letters? 164 00:06:42,636 --> 00:06:44,636 Was that a mistake, too? 165 00:06:44,638 --> 00:06:46,872 Do they get apologies? 166 00:06:48,442 --> 00:06:49,741 To everyone else, 167 00:06:49,743 --> 00:06:51,810 it seemed like the issue had been resolved, 168 00:06:51,812 --> 00:06:54,780 but this only raised more questions for me. 169 00:06:58,718 --> 00:07:00,719 Carrots, bell peppers, 170 00:07:00,721 --> 00:07:02,220 these are tomatoes over here. 171 00:07:02,222 --> 00:07:04,156 And over here, we've got some asparagus starting, 172 00:07:04,158 --> 00:07:06,925 which is our favorite vegetable. 173 00:07:06,927 --> 00:07:08,326 Back there is cucumbers. 174 00:07:08,328 --> 00:07:10,629 Which is my favorite vegetable. 175 00:07:10,631 --> 00:07:13,098 And we've got some herbs back there. 176 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:14,966 And we're trying to do this without any chemicals 177 00:07:14,968 --> 00:07:17,335 or any fillers, just water and sun. 178 00:07:17,337 --> 00:07:18,837 - That's it. - No bug spray. 179 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:21,540 - No bug spray, no nothing. - No fertilizer. 180 00:07:21,542 --> 00:07:22,841 As you may know, I'm a chef 181 00:07:22,843 --> 00:07:25,143 and she's in the food business as well, 182 00:07:25,145 --> 00:07:29,114 so we're both pretty knowledgeable of nutrition 183 00:07:29,116 --> 00:07:31,983 and this was kind of an idea I've been wanting to have 184 00:07:31,985 --> 00:07:33,452 in my own yard, 185 00:07:33,454 --> 00:07:36,421 but also something that we had talked about 186 00:07:36,423 --> 00:07:37,622 with the school board. 187 00:07:37,624 --> 00:07:38,890 Maybe doing a garden, 188 00:07:38,892 --> 00:07:40,826 have the students in summertime co-op 189 00:07:40,828 --> 00:07:42,427 and have their own vegetables 190 00:07:42,429 --> 00:07:45,030 for their salad bar at school, you know. 191 00:07:45,032 --> 00:07:48,934 Teach children something that they can take away, 192 00:07:48,936 --> 00:07:51,002 and carry within the rest... Because it tastes so much better 193 00:07:51,004 --> 00:07:52,270 when you know you've done the work 194 00:07:52,272 --> 00:07:54,406 to get it there, so, um... 195 00:07:54,408 --> 00:07:56,741 It's amazing to think that a family like this 196 00:07:56,743 --> 00:07:59,845 received a notice about health and nutrition. 197 00:07:59,847 --> 00:08:01,146 Later that day, 198 00:08:01,148 --> 00:08:03,582 Maddie told me about her own struggles. 199 00:08:03,584 --> 00:08:04,816 Um, uh, my condition 200 00:08:04,818 --> 00:08:06,651 is human growth hormone disorder. 201 00:08:06,653 --> 00:08:09,721 Uh, that means I can't grow like a normal child 202 00:08:09,723 --> 00:08:12,057 and I can't lose weight, so... 203 00:08:12,059 --> 00:08:14,292 And I can't grow teeth and I'm very slow 204 00:08:14,294 --> 00:08:16,495 and, like, that whole process. 205 00:08:16,497 --> 00:08:17,996 In spite of her condition, 206 00:08:17,998 --> 00:08:20,465 Maddie was getting along just fine at school, 207 00:08:20,467 --> 00:08:22,801 until one day in gym class. 208 00:08:22,803 --> 00:08:24,503 Nurses, I guess from the state, 209 00:08:24,505 --> 00:08:26,438 came and weighed us and measured us 210 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,507 and it really made me uncomfortable 211 00:08:28,509 --> 00:08:31,009 because there's another child in there too with you. 212 00:08:31,011 --> 00:08:33,778 So I mean, it just, like, really made me feel awkward 213 00:08:33,780 --> 00:08:35,580 and I really didn't wanna do it. 214 00:08:35,582 --> 00:08:36,815 Did they give you a choice? 215 00:08:36,817 --> 00:08:38,717 No, they made us do it. 216 00:08:38,719 --> 00:08:40,318 What Maddie didn't realize 217 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,688 is that the district was actually grading students 218 00:08:43,690 --> 00:08:46,124 on something more than just academics. 219 00:08:46,126 --> 00:08:49,027 And here was my report card. 220 00:08:53,232 --> 00:08:55,934 Then I found this letter 221 00:08:55,936 --> 00:08:58,570 or what's left of it anyways. 222 00:08:58,572 --> 00:09:00,472 And it basically says that, you know, 223 00:09:00,474 --> 00:09:02,207 I'm high in my weight 224 00:09:02,209 --> 00:09:03,642 and I ripped it up 225 00:09:03,644 --> 00:09:06,244 and I threw it in the trashcan. 226 00:09:06,246 --> 00:09:08,914 She got the mail that day 227 00:09:08,916 --> 00:09:12,350 and opened up her report card 228 00:09:12,352 --> 00:09:14,920 with great anticipation of receiving money 229 00:09:14,922 --> 00:09:17,055 from her good grades 230 00:09:17,057 --> 00:09:18,356 and she didn't wanna talk to me, 231 00:09:18,358 --> 00:09:20,258 so she ran to her room 232 00:09:20,260 --> 00:09:21,860 and locked herself upstairs, 233 00:09:21,862 --> 00:09:23,428 so then I went to the garbage can 234 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:24,596 and found that she had shredded 235 00:09:24,598 --> 00:09:26,531 part of what came in the mail 236 00:09:26,533 --> 00:09:28,700 and it was the letter from the district. 237 00:09:29,970 --> 00:09:31,202 My mom found it 238 00:09:31,204 --> 00:09:32,671 and pieced all the pieces 239 00:09:32,673 --> 00:09:34,472 that she could find together. 240 00:09:34,474 --> 00:09:36,274 But obviously, 241 00:09:36,276 --> 00:09:38,176 not the letter was found. 242 00:09:41,181 --> 00:09:43,915 I felt like I wasn't accepted 243 00:09:43,917 --> 00:09:46,718 in the society, basically. 244 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,987 I could never think about anything else at that time. 245 00:09:48,989 --> 00:09:50,855 I could always think about how I'm a disappointment 246 00:09:50,857 --> 00:09:52,324 to everyone. 247 00:09:52,326 --> 00:09:54,025 The children that received that letter, 248 00:09:54,027 --> 00:09:55,827 they'll remember that the rest of their lives. 249 00:09:55,829 --> 00:09:57,762 They will remember, um, 250 00:09:57,764 --> 00:09:59,297 how nice or sweet the school 251 00:09:59,299 --> 00:10:00,532 tried to make it sound. 252 00:10:00,534 --> 00:10:02,033 They'll remember that the school said, 253 00:10:02,035 --> 00:10:03,501 "you don't fit in. 254 00:10:03,503 --> 00:10:05,203 "You are different. 255 00:10:05,205 --> 00:10:07,672 "You are not acceptable at what you're doing now 256 00:10:07,674 --> 00:10:09,374 and that something needs to change." 257 00:10:09,376 --> 00:10:10,675 So essentially, 258 00:10:10,677 --> 00:10:12,811 if they received it for being underweight, 259 00:10:12,813 --> 00:10:14,112 they're too skinny. 260 00:10:14,114 --> 00:10:16,948 If they received it for being overweight, 261 00:10:16,950 --> 00:10:19,718 the school is essentially saying, "you're too fat." 262 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,519 Um, those are words 263 00:10:21,521 --> 00:10:24,289 and that's a moment and time 264 00:10:24,291 --> 00:10:27,325 that these children will never forget, 265 00:10:27,327 --> 00:10:30,929 um, and that is a shame. 266 00:10:32,366 --> 00:10:34,432 Sorry. 267 00:10:34,434 --> 00:10:37,068 So, in life, you hold on to those things. 268 00:10:37,070 --> 00:10:38,536 And so, it's hard 269 00:10:38,538 --> 00:10:40,438 when it's your kid. 270 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,308 At the time, I was really mad at the nurse 271 00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:45,543 because her name was signed. 272 00:10:45,545 --> 00:10:47,812 But then, the nurse met with my mom 273 00:10:47,814 --> 00:10:50,281 and she told, um, her 274 00:10:50,283 --> 00:10:52,817 that she had to send it 275 00:10:52,819 --> 00:10:55,220 and she didn't have a choice to, 276 00:10:55,222 --> 00:10:58,089 so I just felt really sorry for her 277 00:10:58,091 --> 00:11:00,458 and I wished that that never happened to her either 278 00:11:00,460 --> 00:11:04,162 because I mean, how much pain that put her through, 279 00:11:04,164 --> 00:11:06,631 and it's something she deserved for that. 280 00:11:06,633 --> 00:11:08,733 Nobody seemed to know 281 00:11:08,735 --> 00:11:10,802 where the letter started, 282 00:11:10,804 --> 00:11:12,771 why it went out in the mail. 283 00:11:12,773 --> 00:11:14,439 I mean, how does a letter like this go out 284 00:11:14,441 --> 00:11:16,708 and no one know about it? 285 00:11:16,710 --> 00:11:19,077 It just isn't possible. 286 00:11:21,148 --> 00:11:22,447 Well, someone has to know 287 00:11:22,449 --> 00:11:23,915 where these letters came from, 288 00:11:23,917 --> 00:11:25,283 so I setup an appointment 289 00:11:25,285 --> 00:11:26,985 with one of our school board members 290 00:11:26,987 --> 00:11:29,320 who also happens to be a nutritionist, 291 00:11:29,322 --> 00:11:30,588 college professor, 292 00:11:30,590 --> 00:11:31,823 and doctor. 293 00:11:31,825 --> 00:11:33,692 I'm a dietitian whose private practice 294 00:11:33,694 --> 00:11:35,794 is centered around weight management 295 00:11:35,796 --> 00:11:37,629 and eating disorders. 296 00:11:37,631 --> 00:11:41,332 So, I was absolutely alarmed that that went out 297 00:11:41,334 --> 00:11:44,903 because you can't talk to kids that way. 298 00:11:44,905 --> 00:11:47,572 That's the whole wrong approach. 299 00:11:47,574 --> 00:11:49,474 I was glad to hear that someone else 300 00:11:49,476 --> 00:11:51,609 thought that these letters were a bad idea, 301 00:11:51,611 --> 00:11:54,312 but I wanted to know who was responsible, 302 00:11:54,314 --> 00:11:55,980 so I went to the president 303 00:11:55,982 --> 00:11:57,048 of the school board. 304 00:11:57,050 --> 00:11:58,983 I don't think anybody 305 00:11:58,985 --> 00:12:00,552 may have known about it until that night 306 00:12:00,554 --> 00:12:01,953 that she came and spoke. 307 00:12:01,955 --> 00:12:04,055 The way those letters are generated 308 00:12:04,057 --> 00:12:05,590 is a state of Ohio 309 00:12:05,592 --> 00:12:07,492 mandates that every school 310 00:12:07,494 --> 00:12:10,095 conducting every child a BMI 311 00:12:10,097 --> 00:12:13,264 or a, uh, body mass index 312 00:12:13,266 --> 00:12:17,102 to, uh, to see where they fall. 313 00:12:17,104 --> 00:12:18,570 This is sounding more sinister 314 00:12:18,572 --> 00:12:19,804 than I thought. 315 00:12:19,806 --> 00:12:22,140 State lawmakers are forcing our schools 316 00:12:22,142 --> 00:12:24,042 to do BMI testing on us 317 00:12:24,044 --> 00:12:25,310 to determine our health? 318 00:12:25,312 --> 00:12:28,680 Is that BMI is an indicator of something, 319 00:12:28,682 --> 00:12:30,915 but is it the most important piece of information 320 00:12:30,917 --> 00:12:32,684 about that student's health? 321 00:12:32,686 --> 00:12:35,053 It's not even in the top five. 322 00:12:35,055 --> 00:12:37,622 So I'd say it's really not a value. 323 00:12:37,624 --> 00:12:39,324 Well, that's good to hear 324 00:12:39,326 --> 00:12:41,459 because lots of students feel the same way. 325 00:12:41,461 --> 00:12:44,129 But we're still forced to step up on the scales, 326 00:12:44,131 --> 00:12:46,164 so I decided to bring my own scale 327 00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:47,699 and mandate a BMI test 328 00:12:47,701 --> 00:12:49,667 for every adult that I interview. 329 00:12:49,669 --> 00:12:51,035 Your height. My height? 330 00:12:51,037 --> 00:12:53,004 Uh-hmm. Uh-oh. I'm five-six. 331 00:12:53,006 --> 00:12:55,006 Five-six. Uh-hmm. 332 00:12:55,008 --> 00:12:56,107 I already know what mine is. 333 00:12:56,109 --> 00:12:58,376 It used to be 19. Can I use that one? 334 00:12:58,378 --> 00:13:00,044 Sure. 335 00:13:00,046 --> 00:13:01,479 Not surprisingly, 336 00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:03,047 she didn't go for it. 337 00:13:03,049 --> 00:13:05,750 No, not after age 30, I wouldn't. 338 00:13:05,752 --> 00:13:07,685 I mean, kids that too, wouldn't they? 339 00:13:07,687 --> 00:13:09,354 No, no. I agree. I agree. Yeah. 340 00:13:09,356 --> 00:13:11,022 It would've been, you know, as a teenager, 341 00:13:11,024 --> 00:13:12,791 it would've been very private for me, too. 342 00:13:12,793 --> 00:13:14,259 Uh-hmm. I would not have appreciated it. 343 00:13:14,261 --> 00:13:16,761 I was told that kids were weighed in gym class 344 00:13:16,763 --> 00:13:18,963 and they weren't given a choice. 345 00:13:18,965 --> 00:13:21,132 Would it surprise you that many of these kids 346 00:13:21,134 --> 00:13:23,468 felt uncomfortable about this? 347 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:24,536 Well, sure. 348 00:13:24,538 --> 00:13:26,604 I mean, nobody likes to be, 349 00:13:26,606 --> 00:13:29,874 uh, tested, put on the spot. 350 00:13:29,876 --> 00:13:32,610 But I think people need to understand 351 00:13:32,612 --> 00:13:34,846 where they fall on the scale 352 00:13:34,848 --> 00:13:36,881 and how they're doing as related 353 00:13:36,883 --> 00:13:39,017 to the rest of the population. 354 00:13:41,188 --> 00:13:42,821 Well, I'm glad you say that because I'm doing 355 00:13:42,823 --> 00:13:45,190 my own BMI test. 356 00:13:45,192 --> 00:13:47,659 Uh, would you mind stepping on the scale for me? 357 00:13:52,498 --> 00:13:55,366 Um, oh, boy. 358 00:13:55,368 --> 00:13:56,501 I probably... I probably should, 359 00:13:56,503 --> 00:13:58,169 but I prefer not to. 360 00:13:58,171 --> 00:14:00,238 Apparently, I don't have the same mandate power 361 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,773 that the state has. 362 00:14:01,775 --> 00:14:03,608 To be given a choice, 363 00:14:03,610 --> 00:14:04,709 would you like that? 364 00:14:04,711 --> 00:14:05,777 You're good. 365 00:14:05,779 --> 00:14:07,111 Um... 366 00:14:07,113 --> 00:14:08,279 As it turns out, 367 00:14:08,281 --> 00:14:10,281 the board president was right. 368 00:14:11,517 --> 00:14:13,585 Two years ago, state lawmakers 369 00:14:13,587 --> 00:14:16,387 introduced senate bill 210, 370 00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:18,189 which mostly addressed improvements 371 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:20,325 and diet and exercise in our schools. 372 00:14:20,327 --> 00:14:23,161 Our healthy choices for healthy children website. 373 00:14:23,163 --> 00:14:24,529 And with a name like 374 00:14:24,531 --> 00:14:27,031 healthy choices for healthy children's act, 375 00:14:27,033 --> 00:14:29,100 it would be political suicide 376 00:14:29,102 --> 00:14:30,802 to vote against it. 377 00:14:30,804 --> 00:14:31,903 Maybe that's how 378 00:14:31,905 --> 00:14:34,138 this one little controversial item 379 00:14:34,140 --> 00:14:35,506 made its way into the bill. 380 00:14:35,508 --> 00:14:37,308 The bill proposes to measure 381 00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:39,310 body mass index, BMI, 382 00:14:39,312 --> 00:14:42,981 on school entry in grades k3, 5, and 9. 383 00:14:42,983 --> 00:14:44,749 And that's when the discussion 384 00:14:44,751 --> 00:14:46,184 got interesting. 385 00:14:46,186 --> 00:14:48,419 To say that our schools 386 00:14:48,421 --> 00:14:50,855 are gonna body mass index 387 00:14:50,857 --> 00:14:52,523 little kindergarten students 388 00:14:52,525 --> 00:14:53,992 and third graders. 389 00:14:53,994 --> 00:14:56,461 Taking people's body mass indexes, 390 00:14:56,463 --> 00:14:57,962 I personally find that offensive. 391 00:14:57,964 --> 00:15:00,331 This is a national security crisis 392 00:15:00,333 --> 00:15:02,166 for the United States. 393 00:15:02,168 --> 00:15:05,336 Make our people better, thinner, stronger 394 00:15:05,338 --> 00:15:06,871 so we can wage wars 395 00:15:06,873 --> 00:15:08,740 and fight the battles that need to be fought. 396 00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:10,608 If you pick up an apple and you eat it, 397 00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:12,744 you know, their hunger may go away. 398 00:15:12,746 --> 00:15:14,913 Give me Liberty, give me death. 399 00:15:14,915 --> 00:15:16,681 Two hundred thirty years ago the English, 400 00:15:16,683 --> 00:15:17,949 now it's about a twinkie. 401 00:15:17,951 --> 00:15:20,084 You must have went swimming over the holiday weekend 402 00:15:20,086 --> 00:15:21,386 and hit your head on the diving board. 403 00:15:21,388 --> 00:15:23,554 When I was in the marine corps, 404 00:15:23,556 --> 00:15:24,923 you get your rear end kicked 405 00:15:24,925 --> 00:15:26,157 if you're not in shape. 406 00:15:26,159 --> 00:15:28,059 It's kind of like boiling a frog. 407 00:15:28,061 --> 00:15:30,728 Slowly up the temperature five or ten degrees 408 00:15:30,730 --> 00:15:33,097 until the flesh falls off the frog. 409 00:15:33,099 --> 00:15:35,133 Or you stand and fill sand buckets 410 00:15:35,135 --> 00:15:37,168 until you lose 20 pounds. 411 00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:38,569 Maybe mom and dad 412 00:15:38,571 --> 00:15:40,238 ought to take these folks... 413 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,773 Okay. Wait. 414 00:15:41,775 --> 00:15:44,342 Everybody calm down. 415 00:15:44,344 --> 00:15:46,644 What is BMI anyway? 416 00:15:46,646 --> 00:15:48,313 BMI was created 417 00:15:48,315 --> 00:15:50,548 back in the early 1800s 418 00:15:50,550 --> 00:15:52,884 by a Belgian researcher named Quetelet, 419 00:15:52,886 --> 00:15:54,886 and he was a man of many interests. 420 00:15:54,888 --> 00:15:56,054 He was a mathematician, 421 00:15:56,056 --> 00:15:57,722 he was an astronomer, 422 00:15:57,724 --> 00:15:59,757 and he did some work, um, 423 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:01,659 analyzing body measurements 424 00:16:01,661 --> 00:16:04,762 and he came up with a calculation, 425 00:16:04,764 --> 00:16:07,732 weight over height squared. 426 00:16:07,734 --> 00:16:10,535 It's calculated using kilograms for weight 427 00:16:10,537 --> 00:16:11,936 and meters for height. 428 00:16:11,938 --> 00:16:13,638 In the United States, however, 429 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,106 we typically record measures 430 00:16:15,108 --> 00:16:17,475 in pounds and in inches. 431 00:16:17,477 --> 00:16:20,478 Um, as a result, there's a simple calculation 432 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,914 that can be used and that's, um, 433 00:16:22,916 --> 00:16:25,083 weight over height squared 434 00:16:25,085 --> 00:16:27,151 times 703. 435 00:16:27,153 --> 00:16:29,320 And the result is a... Is an index 436 00:16:29,322 --> 00:16:30,788 which we call body mass index 437 00:16:30,790 --> 00:16:32,290 which is an indicator 438 00:16:32,292 --> 00:16:36,127 of linearity or thickness. 439 00:16:36,129 --> 00:16:37,962 I'm Dr. Stefan Czerwinski, 440 00:16:37,964 --> 00:16:40,631 I'm the director of the Fels longitudinal study 441 00:16:40,633 --> 00:16:42,600 which is the longest running study 442 00:16:42,602 --> 00:16:44,936 of growth development and aging 443 00:16:44,938 --> 00:16:46,404 in the world. 444 00:16:46,406 --> 00:16:49,540 Uh, the study has been around since 1929 445 00:16:49,542 --> 00:16:50,908 and we continue to collect 446 00:16:50,910 --> 00:16:52,977 body composition data on children 447 00:16:52,979 --> 00:16:54,679 over their lifespan. 448 00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:57,782 So we use BMI as an indicator of obesity 449 00:16:57,784 --> 00:17:00,351 or what we often call adiposity. 450 00:17:00,353 --> 00:17:02,020 We also use other measures 451 00:17:02,022 --> 00:17:04,756 that describe that even better 452 00:17:04,758 --> 00:17:05,957 in adults. 453 00:17:05,959 --> 00:17:07,825 We know that their issues with BMI 454 00:17:07,827 --> 00:17:10,895 just in regard to athletes. 455 00:17:10,897 --> 00:17:13,664 And children in particular, uh, 456 00:17:13,666 --> 00:17:16,968 growth in boys over adolescence, 457 00:17:16,970 --> 00:17:20,438 um, what you're gonna see is higher BMls 458 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,608 due to muscle, not because of fat. 459 00:17:23,610 --> 00:17:25,943 And I think most researchers agree with the fact 460 00:17:25,945 --> 00:17:28,212 that BMI is not a perfect measure 461 00:17:28,214 --> 00:17:29,881 because it's easy, 462 00:17:29,883 --> 00:17:32,450 it's relatively cheap, 463 00:17:32,452 --> 00:17:34,385 um, it's used probably more 464 00:17:34,387 --> 00:17:36,287 than it necessarily should be. 465 00:17:38,691 --> 00:17:39,857 Why then are lawmakers 466 00:17:39,859 --> 00:17:42,527 putting so much emphasis on BMI, 467 00:17:42,529 --> 00:17:44,729 especially with children? 468 00:17:44,731 --> 00:17:46,197 To find out more, 469 00:17:46,199 --> 00:17:48,099 I visited Claire Mysko 470 00:17:48,101 --> 00:17:49,801 who's dedicated her life's work 471 00:17:49,803 --> 00:17:52,336 to studying and solving issues 472 00:17:52,338 --> 00:17:55,073 of health, weight, and eating. 473 00:17:55,075 --> 00:17:57,742 At the national eating disorders association, 474 00:17:57,744 --> 00:17:59,277 we really believe 475 00:17:59,279 --> 00:18:01,212 in educating kids about health, 476 00:18:01,214 --> 00:18:02,680 but to do it in a way 477 00:18:02,682 --> 00:18:05,883 that focuses on health, um, and holistically 478 00:18:05,885 --> 00:18:08,886 and this idea that kids should be fixated 479 00:18:08,888 --> 00:18:10,588 on a particular number, uh, 480 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:14,158 to define their health is incredibly problematic. 481 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,627 Um, so for the state to come in 482 00:18:16,629 --> 00:18:18,796 and say, "this is the measure of health 483 00:18:18,798 --> 00:18:20,231 that we're going to apply," 484 00:18:20,233 --> 00:18:23,034 um, it's an inaccurate measure of health for one thing, 485 00:18:23,036 --> 00:18:26,437 um, and it's totally based on a number, you know. 486 00:18:26,439 --> 00:18:29,373 So for kids who are already struggling 487 00:18:29,375 --> 00:18:30,808 with low self-esteem, 488 00:18:30,810 --> 00:18:32,143 poor body image, which she... 489 00:18:32,145 --> 00:18:34,745 We know poor body image is a huge problem 490 00:18:34,747 --> 00:18:36,180 for many, many kids, 491 00:18:36,182 --> 00:18:37,648 um, you know, 492 00:18:37,650 --> 00:18:40,184 we find this potentially very dangerous. 493 00:18:40,186 --> 00:18:42,120 And this is the way we ought to be doing it. 494 00:18:42,122 --> 00:18:43,888 It's an important thing for our kids. 495 00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:45,356 It teaches them life lessons 496 00:18:45,358 --> 00:18:46,657 and I think it's very rare. 497 00:18:46,659 --> 00:18:47,825 All of us will get together 498 00:18:47,827 --> 00:18:49,393 and come up with a consensus bill 499 00:18:49,395 --> 00:18:51,162 that's as good as this one 500 00:18:51,164 --> 00:18:53,431 and I hope you all will be willing to support it 501 00:18:53,433 --> 00:18:54,799 because it's good stuff. 502 00:18:54,801 --> 00:18:57,168 This whole conversation is going to lead 503 00:18:57,170 --> 00:18:58,569 to something very beneficial, 504 00:18:58,571 --> 00:19:00,538 but I think the most important thing 505 00:19:00,540 --> 00:19:03,207 is that children will have the knowledge. 506 00:19:03,209 --> 00:19:04,909 I think we've done good work here today 507 00:19:04,911 --> 00:19:06,377 for the citizens of Ohio 508 00:19:06,379 --> 00:19:08,179 and for the children of Ohio. 509 00:19:08,181 --> 00:19:10,648 I am all for educating kids about health, 510 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:12,116 but let's do it in a way 511 00:19:12,118 --> 00:19:13,251 that makes sense, 512 00:19:13,253 --> 00:19:14,785 that is not fear-based, 513 00:19:14,787 --> 00:19:16,154 that is not going to lead 514 00:19:16,156 --> 00:19:18,389 to shaming and bullying. 515 00:19:18,391 --> 00:19:21,359 Um, it's so critical 516 00:19:21,361 --> 00:19:24,795 that our government actually develops policies 517 00:19:24,797 --> 00:19:27,565 that are based on good information. 518 00:19:27,567 --> 00:19:28,966 Yes, I'm going to vote for this bill, 519 00:19:28,968 --> 00:19:30,468 but what I would like to say 520 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:33,704 is as we look at the obesity problem in the future, 521 00:19:33,706 --> 00:19:35,206 let's bring some professionals in 522 00:19:35,208 --> 00:19:36,607 who've spent their lives 523 00:19:36,609 --> 00:19:38,042 in the research in this area 524 00:19:38,044 --> 00:19:39,610 to give us some advice. Thank you. 525 00:19:39,612 --> 00:19:40,945 It's incredibly frustrating 526 00:19:40,947 --> 00:19:42,480 that these decisions are being made 527 00:19:42,482 --> 00:19:43,948 at a government level, 528 00:19:43,950 --> 00:19:46,083 um, without any input from experts 529 00:19:46,085 --> 00:19:48,719 who actually have the knowledge, um, 530 00:19:48,721 --> 00:19:51,189 and who are saying again, and again, and again 531 00:19:51,191 --> 00:19:54,792 that BMI is not an accurate measure of health. 532 00:19:54,794 --> 00:19:56,394 The question is, shall the title be agreed to? 533 00:19:56,396 --> 00:19:58,129 Representative Kearney moves to amend the title. 534 00:19:58,131 --> 00:19:59,597 If you wish to add your name to the title, 535 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:01,132 please do so at this time. 536 00:20:06,738 --> 00:20:08,506 Without objection, the title would be agreed to. 537 00:20:08,508 --> 00:20:11,042 Hearing no objection, the title is agreed to. 538 00:20:13,146 --> 00:20:15,079 So with everyone that I interview, 539 00:20:15,081 --> 00:20:16,981 I'm doing my own BMI test. 540 00:20:16,983 --> 00:20:18,216 And so I ask them, 541 00:20:18,218 --> 00:20:20,051 "would you like to get on the scale?" 542 00:20:20,053 --> 00:20:21,719 I have my scale right here. 543 00:20:21,721 --> 00:20:23,254 Would you be willing to participate 544 00:20:23,256 --> 00:20:25,189 in my BMI test? 545 00:20:25,191 --> 00:20:26,991 You know what, I would not be willing 546 00:20:26,993 --> 00:20:28,459 to participate in your BMI test 547 00:20:28,461 --> 00:20:30,261 and I'll tell you why. Uh-hmm. 548 00:20:30,263 --> 00:20:32,763 I haven't known my weight 549 00:20:32,765 --> 00:20:35,066 in, hmm, 550 00:20:35,068 --> 00:20:38,369 probably close to 20 years now. 551 00:20:38,371 --> 00:20:40,738 And not knowing my weight 552 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:43,307 has been one of the healthiest things for me, 553 00:20:43,309 --> 00:20:45,676 um, because at a certain point in my life, 554 00:20:45,678 --> 00:20:48,145 I was obsessed with this number 555 00:20:48,147 --> 00:20:50,214 and it made me very sick 556 00:20:50,216 --> 00:20:51,849 and very unhappy. 557 00:20:51,851 --> 00:20:54,585 And to be able to live my life 558 00:20:54,587 --> 00:20:55,820 and feel healthy, 559 00:20:55,822 --> 00:20:57,154 I go to the doctor, you know, 560 00:20:57,156 --> 00:20:59,156 I get all the tests that I need to get done, 561 00:20:59,158 --> 00:21:01,626 um, you know, I am not... 562 00:21:01,628 --> 00:21:03,561 I don't live in fear of this number, 563 00:21:03,563 --> 00:21:05,630 but not knowing it 564 00:21:05,632 --> 00:21:09,066 has made me a much happier person. 565 00:21:09,068 --> 00:21:10,501 Well, if not knowing your weight 566 00:21:10,503 --> 00:21:12,336 could make you a happier person, 567 00:21:12,338 --> 00:21:13,704 then our lawmakers are making 568 00:21:13,706 --> 00:21:16,173 a lot of kids miserable. 569 00:21:18,311 --> 00:21:19,744 So I decided to reach out 570 00:21:19,746 --> 00:21:22,113 to the main sponsor of the fat letter law 571 00:21:22,115 --> 00:21:24,248 in my state. 572 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,319 Senator Kearney's office, this is Emily. 573 00:21:28,321 --> 00:21:30,187 Hi, this is Bailey Webber. 574 00:21:30,189 --> 00:21:32,890 Um, I emailed senator Kearney a few weeks ago 575 00:21:32,892 --> 00:21:34,859 and I'm trying to schedule an interview 576 00:21:34,861 --> 00:21:36,727 and I didn't get a response, 577 00:21:36,729 --> 00:21:38,095 so I'm calling again to see 578 00:21:38,097 --> 00:21:40,564 if I could schedule an interview possibly today. 579 00:21:41,933 --> 00:21:43,534 Um, one second, please? 580 00:21:43,536 --> 00:21:44,635 Okay. 581 00:21:46,104 --> 00:21:47,872 Because his schedule right now, 582 00:21:47,874 --> 00:21:50,608 uh, we wouldn't be able to do a live interview. 583 00:21:50,610 --> 00:21:53,010 But if you wanted to email the questions, 584 00:21:53,012 --> 00:21:55,313 we can get the responses back to you. 585 00:21:55,315 --> 00:21:56,380 That won't really work 586 00:21:56,382 --> 00:21:58,015 because I'm doing a video project, 587 00:21:58,017 --> 00:22:00,351 so I'll need to interview him 588 00:22:00,353 --> 00:22:01,986 for a video. 589 00:22:01,988 --> 00:22:03,587 His schedule is really busy. 590 00:22:03,589 --> 00:22:05,389 We're not thinking that it's gonna be a possibility 591 00:22:05,391 --> 00:22:07,358 to do any sort of live interview. 592 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,727 I can't explain what happened to me next. 593 00:22:09,729 --> 00:22:12,596 But the more she refused to Grant me an interview, 594 00:22:12,598 --> 00:22:15,366 the more determined I was to get it. 595 00:22:15,368 --> 00:22:19,103 Um, do you think that there's any other time available, 596 00:22:19,105 --> 00:22:20,271 maybe in a few weeks? 597 00:22:20,273 --> 00:22:22,473 I don't have to have it, like, immediately. 598 00:22:22,475 --> 00:22:24,542 No, I'm sorry. He's not available. 599 00:22:24,544 --> 00:22:26,377 So, does senator Kearney 600 00:22:26,379 --> 00:22:30,047 not do video interviews? 601 00:22:30,049 --> 00:22:33,050 He does when it fits into his schedule. 602 00:22:33,052 --> 00:22:34,819 Maybe, um, will his schedule 603 00:22:34,821 --> 00:22:36,721 open up in a few weeks? 604 00:22:36,723 --> 00:22:38,356 I can't give you a definitive answer. 605 00:22:38,358 --> 00:22:40,791 I'm not really sure, so... 606 00:22:40,793 --> 00:22:42,626 Um, I can do... 607 00:22:42,628 --> 00:22:43,828 Not even just in a few weeks. 608 00:22:43,830 --> 00:22:46,097 I can do in a few months even. 609 00:22:46,099 --> 00:22:47,498 Would that work? 610 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:50,668 Um, not at this moment, no. 611 00:22:50,670 --> 00:22:53,237 She just kept on saying, "schedule, schedule, schedule." 612 00:22:53,239 --> 00:22:55,139 And I said... I'm like, "everything is open with me. 613 00:22:55,141 --> 00:22:56,474 "My principal is okay with it. 614 00:22:56,476 --> 00:22:57,842 "I can leave school. 615 00:22:57,844 --> 00:23:00,778 "Um, I close to Cincinnati, Columbus, and Dayton. 616 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:03,714 "I can... i can drive there anytime, anywhere 617 00:23:03,716 --> 00:23:05,616 even in a few months." 618 00:23:05,618 --> 00:23:07,351 And she kept on going back to the schedule, 619 00:23:07,353 --> 00:23:09,220 and then she got around... 620 00:23:09,222 --> 00:23:12,156 She's saying that he doesn't represent me. 621 00:23:12,158 --> 00:23:14,859 I'm afraid he doesn't represent you directly. 622 00:23:14,861 --> 00:23:16,727 - Oh, okay. - So... 623 00:23:16,729 --> 00:23:19,397 And I was confused by that because it's like, 624 00:23:19,399 --> 00:23:20,898 "wait, he doesn't represent me. 625 00:23:20,900 --> 00:23:22,733 "He passed a law that represented 626 00:23:22,735 --> 00:23:24,602 me and my friends." 627 00:23:24,604 --> 00:23:25,803 I'm starting to think 628 00:23:25,805 --> 00:23:30,608 that it's not about, um, scheduling. 629 00:23:30,610 --> 00:23:32,576 It's more about this topic 630 00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:34,645 and maybe senator Kearney 631 00:23:34,647 --> 00:23:37,047 doesn't wanna talk to someone like me 632 00:23:37,049 --> 00:23:38,582 about this. 633 00:23:38,584 --> 00:23:41,051 But... i mean, I'm not gonna give up. 634 00:23:41,053 --> 00:23:43,053 I really wanna have this conversation with him 635 00:23:43,055 --> 00:23:46,290 and this is gonna be a lot harder than I thought. 636 00:23:48,628 --> 00:23:50,928 Now, there's so many emails. 637 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:52,530 Well, not everyone shies away 638 00:23:52,532 --> 00:23:54,098 from this heated topic. 639 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:55,633 In fact, meme Roth 640 00:23:55,635 --> 00:23:58,302 has been one of the more outspoken voices 641 00:23:58,304 --> 00:23:59,904 in the debate over obesity. 642 00:23:59,906 --> 00:24:03,374 And so, schools, for a long time, 643 00:24:03,376 --> 00:24:05,976 have taken a role in child health and welfare. 644 00:24:05,978 --> 00:24:08,179 They see a bruise or there's sort of, 645 00:24:08,181 --> 00:24:11,115 maybe repeat broken bones. 646 00:24:11,117 --> 00:24:12,416 You know, they say, 647 00:24:12,418 --> 00:24:14,118 - "look, let's look into this." - Uh-hmm. 648 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:17,021 And I feel that on the spectrum 649 00:24:17,023 --> 00:24:19,690 of vision, health, um, 650 00:24:19,692 --> 00:24:21,725 hearing, scoliosis, and all the way 651 00:24:21,727 --> 00:24:23,294 that is your problem in the home, 652 00:24:23,296 --> 00:24:24,361 maybe there's some abuse going on. 653 00:24:24,363 --> 00:24:25,830 Somewhere in that spectrum, 654 00:24:25,832 --> 00:24:28,332 I think the BMI screening fits, 655 00:24:28,334 --> 00:24:30,134 even though I understand 656 00:24:30,136 --> 00:24:31,635 people are conflicted about them. 657 00:24:31,637 --> 00:24:33,804 But seriously, 658 00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,039 nobody takes your BMI 659 00:24:35,041 --> 00:24:36,474 and send you to surgery. 660 00:24:36,476 --> 00:24:38,843 Like, there's a big gap in between. 661 00:24:38,845 --> 00:24:40,377 It is free. 662 00:24:40,379 --> 00:24:42,112 It is non-invasive. 663 00:24:42,114 --> 00:24:43,347 There's no blood. 664 00:24:43,349 --> 00:24:44,748 There's no... not... There's no spit. 665 00:24:44,750 --> 00:24:47,718 It's literally free, fast, and easy. 666 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,886 Uh-hmm. And it's just 667 00:24:48,888 --> 00:24:50,287 an initial screening. 668 00:24:50,289 --> 00:24:51,655 Uh-hmm. So, it just says, 669 00:24:51,657 --> 00:24:53,057 "hey, um, 670 00:24:53,059 --> 00:24:55,292 "your child might be a little overweight 671 00:24:55,294 --> 00:24:56,393 "it seems here. 672 00:24:56,395 --> 00:24:57,728 Go check that out." 673 00:24:57,730 --> 00:25:00,664 Or, "hey, your child might be a little underweight, 674 00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:01,932 go check that out." 675 00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:04,768 If it takes the government to intervene 676 00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:07,805 to help preserve a healthy life for these kids, 677 00:25:07,807 --> 00:25:10,207 then I don't love that. 678 00:25:10,209 --> 00:25:12,142 But I'm willing to concede that 679 00:25:12,144 --> 00:25:13,644 if that's what it takes. 680 00:25:13,646 --> 00:25:14,979 At first glance, 681 00:25:14,981 --> 00:25:16,914 you might not think someone like meme 682 00:25:16,916 --> 00:25:19,950 can truly appreciate the struggles of obesity 683 00:25:19,952 --> 00:25:21,151 until you learn more 684 00:25:21,153 --> 00:25:23,420 about her own personal experiences. 685 00:25:23,422 --> 00:25:26,190 I come from a family that's overweight, 686 00:25:26,192 --> 00:25:29,627 multigenerational, aunts, uncles, grandparents. 687 00:25:29,629 --> 00:25:31,462 My... both of my parents 688 00:25:31,464 --> 00:25:33,964 are very obese. 689 00:25:33,966 --> 00:25:36,901 My grandmother was put into a, uh, 690 00:25:36,903 --> 00:25:38,936 24-hour care facility 691 00:25:38,938 --> 00:25:41,372 because her weight got so immense. 692 00:25:41,374 --> 00:25:44,308 And I think about that obesity killed her well 693 00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:45,876 before she died. 694 00:25:45,878 --> 00:25:48,646 Imagine yourself unable or unwilling 695 00:25:48,648 --> 00:25:50,714 to get out of your bed 696 00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:52,216 because you're so heavy that you're willing 697 00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:54,485 to just go to the bathroom in your bed. 698 00:25:54,487 --> 00:25:56,554 That's where obesity takes people. 699 00:25:56,556 --> 00:25:57,621 So, it's really hard for me 700 00:25:57,623 --> 00:25:59,623 to call obesity beautiful. 701 00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:00,925 It's really hard for me 702 00:26:00,927 --> 00:26:03,460 to call rolls of fat curves, 703 00:26:03,462 --> 00:26:04,762 because that's not what curvy is. 704 00:26:04,764 --> 00:26:06,363 I know what curvy is. 705 00:26:06,365 --> 00:26:07,665 And I think that people 706 00:26:07,667 --> 00:26:09,266 who try to normalize obesity 707 00:26:09,268 --> 00:26:11,569 or glorify obesity, they mean well. 708 00:26:11,571 --> 00:26:14,705 They want people to feel good about themselves. 709 00:26:14,707 --> 00:26:16,373 But really, it's not helping anybody. 710 00:26:16,375 --> 00:26:18,275 But are fat letters from our government 711 00:26:18,277 --> 00:26:19,443 helping anybody? 712 00:26:19,445 --> 00:26:20,644 And if so, 713 00:26:20,646 --> 00:26:22,086 where is the evidence to show this? 714 00:26:24,116 --> 00:26:26,116 Hello, senator Kearney's office, this is Leo. 715 00:26:26,118 --> 00:26:27,418 It seems the one person 716 00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:29,186 who should answer this question 717 00:26:29,188 --> 00:26:32,222 is the only one not willing to talk to me. 718 00:26:32,224 --> 00:26:33,958 I called a few weeks ago 719 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,859 and, um, I also send an email 720 00:26:35,861 --> 00:26:37,895 and I didn't get a response. 721 00:26:37,897 --> 00:26:40,130 So, I'm calling again to set up an interview 722 00:26:40,132 --> 00:26:41,932 with senator Kearney. 723 00:26:41,934 --> 00:26:43,334 We won't be able to actually 724 00:26:43,336 --> 00:26:44,868 schedule an interview. 725 00:26:44,870 --> 00:26:48,105 Um, but if you want to email us your questions, 726 00:26:48,107 --> 00:26:50,174 we can try to share those with the senator. 727 00:26:50,176 --> 00:26:51,241 Okay. 728 00:26:51,243 --> 00:26:52,710 Well, I did send an email 729 00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:53,777 a couple of weeks ago 730 00:26:53,779 --> 00:26:55,846 and I didn't get a response. 731 00:26:55,848 --> 00:26:57,748 And plus, this is a video project, 732 00:26:57,750 --> 00:27:00,384 so just answering on email 733 00:27:00,386 --> 00:27:01,986 won't really work for me. 734 00:27:01,988 --> 00:27:03,587 Uh-hmm. Yeah, I understand that. 735 00:27:03,589 --> 00:27:05,489 But unfortunately, it's just that 736 00:27:05,491 --> 00:27:07,992 with an interview like this, it's... 737 00:27:07,994 --> 00:27:09,660 The more they turned me down, 738 00:27:09,662 --> 00:27:11,061 the more determined I was 739 00:27:11,063 --> 00:27:13,864 not to take no for an answer. 740 00:27:14,967 --> 00:27:16,567 So, I just kept calling back. 741 00:27:16,569 --> 00:27:18,135 Uh, so, I'm calling back again, 742 00:27:18,137 --> 00:27:20,704 but I forgot to ask the question. 743 00:27:20,706 --> 00:27:22,940 Can you give me a list of any of the places 744 00:27:22,942 --> 00:27:24,608 senator Kearney will be? 745 00:27:24,610 --> 00:27:26,577 Anything on the schedule, any luncheons, 746 00:27:26,579 --> 00:27:29,046 or public speeches? 747 00:27:29,048 --> 00:27:30,881 Uh, currently, no. 748 00:27:30,883 --> 00:27:33,751 So, there's nothing on his schedule? 749 00:27:33,753 --> 00:27:35,386 I don't have any... Anything like that 750 00:27:35,388 --> 00:27:37,755 scheduled at this time. 751 00:27:37,757 --> 00:27:38,822 Oh, can... so then, 752 00:27:38,824 --> 00:27:40,791 can I just schedule an interview? 753 00:27:40,793 --> 00:27:43,093 No, if you want your questions answered, 754 00:27:43,095 --> 00:27:44,294 you need to email them to us. 755 00:27:44,296 --> 00:27:45,529 It was official. 756 00:27:45,531 --> 00:27:48,165 The battle of wills was in full swing now. 757 00:27:48,167 --> 00:27:49,366 Hello, senator Kearney's office. 758 00:27:49,368 --> 00:27:50,534 This is Leo. 759 00:27:50,536 --> 00:27:52,636 Hi, Leo. This is Bailey again. 760 00:27:52,638 --> 00:27:54,738 I'm calling again because you said 761 00:27:54,740 --> 00:27:56,040 that there was nothing on the schedule, 762 00:27:56,042 --> 00:27:58,776 so I would like to schedule a private luncheon, 763 00:27:58,778 --> 00:28:00,611 and how would I do that? 764 00:28:00,613 --> 00:28:01,645 I think what you're getting at 765 00:28:01,647 --> 00:28:03,113 is if can you show up somewhere 766 00:28:03,115 --> 00:28:04,882 and ask him your question 767 00:28:04,884 --> 00:28:07,184 and have a conversation with him. 768 00:28:07,186 --> 00:28:08,919 The answer is no. 769 00:28:08,921 --> 00:28:10,954 I tried the confused angle. 770 00:28:10,956 --> 00:28:13,223 No, there's no schedule? 771 00:28:13,225 --> 00:28:14,425 I tried to be assertive. 772 00:28:14,427 --> 00:28:16,026 He's willing to speak for us, 773 00:28:16,028 --> 00:28:18,429 but not to us. 774 00:28:18,431 --> 00:28:19,596 No, if you want your questions... 775 00:28:19,598 --> 00:28:21,699 I even resorted to sarcasm. 776 00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:25,035 So, is senator Kearney a public official? 777 00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:27,037 Is he a public official? Yeah. 778 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:28,872 So, as a public official, 779 00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:31,909 when will he officially be in public? 780 00:28:31,911 --> 00:28:33,544 So, when you think about our lawmakers 781 00:28:33,546 --> 00:28:34,945 and everything they do, 782 00:28:34,947 --> 00:28:36,513 it's all scripted. 783 00:28:36,515 --> 00:28:37,748 Hearings, they're scripted. 784 00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:39,583 They're reading off a speech. 785 00:28:39,585 --> 00:28:40,884 Um, commercials, scripted. 786 00:28:40,886 --> 00:28:42,419 They're reading off a teleprompter. 787 00:28:42,421 --> 00:28:44,188 Everything they do is scripted. 788 00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:45,956 And when I called to have an open conversation, 789 00:28:45,958 --> 00:28:47,391 they said, "no, we can't do that," 790 00:28:47,393 --> 00:28:49,393 but we can send an email. 791 00:28:49,395 --> 00:28:51,695 Well, no, that's scripted. 792 00:28:51,697 --> 00:28:53,764 They always are wanting like students 793 00:28:53,766 --> 00:28:55,999 to be more involved in government 794 00:28:56,001 --> 00:28:57,367 to learn about it, be interested 795 00:28:57,369 --> 00:28:59,503 and, um, and I'm interested, 796 00:28:59,505 --> 00:29:01,605 but they said, "no, this is all the question. 797 00:29:01,607 --> 00:29:04,108 "The senator cannot have a interview 798 00:29:04,110 --> 00:29:07,010 or a conversation with a citizen." 799 00:29:07,012 --> 00:29:08,545 Do you wanna call again? 800 00:29:12,450 --> 00:29:14,284 The BMI to notify them. 801 00:29:14,286 --> 00:29:17,054 But not all lawmakers were silent on the matter. 802 00:29:17,056 --> 00:29:18,522 Senator Gary Cates 803 00:29:18,524 --> 00:29:20,491 was more than willing to talk to me 804 00:29:20,493 --> 00:29:22,493 about the BMI law. So, I can tell you 805 00:29:22,495 --> 00:29:25,195 from personal, uh, testimony 806 00:29:25,197 --> 00:29:27,164 that there are times when there are bills 807 00:29:27,166 --> 00:29:30,000 that come to legislature that sometimes, 808 00:29:30,002 --> 00:29:31,168 you vote for something 809 00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:31,168 even though you don't think it's the right thing to do 810 00:29:31,170 --> 00:29:34,705 because you're worried about negative consequences 811 00:29:34,707 --> 00:29:37,541 such as bad newspaper stories. 812 00:29:37,543 --> 00:29:38,675 Commercials and campaigns 813 00:29:38,677 --> 00:29:40,477 saying that you hate kids, 814 00:29:40,479 --> 00:29:42,546 you don't want them to be healthy. 815 00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:42,546 But sometimes, 816 00:29:42,548 --> 00:29:44,782 even if you're the only person opposes to it, 817 00:29:44,784 --> 00:29:46,416 if you think it's the right thing to do, 818 00:29:46,418 --> 00:29:47,618 you got to do that. 819 00:29:47,620 --> 00:29:50,287 And senator Cates did just that. 820 00:29:50,289 --> 00:29:52,623 In fact, he was one of the few lawmakers 821 00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:55,159 who raised concerns about the BMI mandate 822 00:29:55,161 --> 00:29:56,293 during the senate hearing. 823 00:29:56,295 --> 00:29:57,628 I would tell you the approach we're taking here 824 00:29:57,630 --> 00:29:59,363 is completely wrong. 825 00:29:59,365 --> 00:30:01,165 And so, the last thing we need to be doing here 826 00:30:01,167 --> 00:30:02,432 is to get involved with this, 827 00:30:02,434 --> 00:30:03,967 have our schools involved with this. 828 00:30:03,969 --> 00:30:05,302 I was trying to convey to my colleagues 829 00:30:05,304 --> 00:30:08,372 is that think really hard about this. 830 00:30:08,374 --> 00:30:09,807 We're gonna regret this. 831 00:30:09,809 --> 00:30:11,875 And I can't help but to think that the school district 832 00:30:11,877 --> 00:30:13,310 is gonna be jumping up and down saying, 833 00:30:13,312 --> 00:30:15,546 "yippee, now, we have this to do." 834 00:30:15,548 --> 00:30:17,281 We can't do everything 835 00:30:17,283 --> 00:30:18,615 in the schools. 836 00:30:18,617 --> 00:30:20,617 There are some things that have to remain 837 00:30:20,619 --> 00:30:22,452 within the family nucleus 838 00:30:22,454 --> 00:30:23,754 - and I think that... - Senator Cates 839 00:30:23,756 --> 00:30:25,923 was not alone in his descent. 840 00:30:25,925 --> 00:30:28,325 Some school officials also stood firm 841 00:30:28,327 --> 00:30:30,127 in opposition to the law. 842 00:30:30,129 --> 00:30:31,261 I took it to the school board. 843 00:30:31,263 --> 00:30:32,329 We had a discussion and we said, 844 00:30:32,331 --> 00:30:34,531 "no, we're not gonna force our children 845 00:30:34,533 --> 00:30:35,999 "to go through this kind of testing 846 00:30:36,001 --> 00:30:37,267 in our school." 847 00:30:37,269 --> 00:30:38,669 So, how does schools like this 848 00:30:38,671 --> 00:30:41,471 get away with ignoring the mandate? 849 00:30:41,473 --> 00:30:42,539 As it turns out, 850 00:30:42,541 --> 00:30:44,675 the law does allow for a waiver 851 00:30:44,677 --> 00:30:45,876 to be issued. 852 00:30:45,878 --> 00:30:47,344 But there's a catch. 853 00:30:47,346 --> 00:30:50,214 A district has to claim a financial hardship 854 00:30:50,216 --> 00:30:51,582 to get it. 855 00:30:51,584 --> 00:30:54,885 So, what if your objection is philosophical? 856 00:30:54,887 --> 00:30:57,054 The question I have is what do we do 857 00:30:57,056 --> 00:30:59,122 with a school district who may wish 858 00:30:59,124 --> 00:31:02,960 to opt out for philosophical or other reasons? 859 00:31:02,962 --> 00:31:04,828 This would not allow them to do this. 860 00:31:04,830 --> 00:31:09,132 So, I'd like a clarification on that, please. 861 00:31:09,134 --> 00:31:10,667 Senator Cadman, would you, uh... 862 00:31:10,669 --> 00:31:12,236 I don't agree with that. 863 00:31:14,906 --> 00:31:18,008 Senator Cadman, would you reply to the chair, please? 864 00:31:18,010 --> 00:31:19,977 Hmm, a tricky one. 865 00:31:19,979 --> 00:31:21,912 I am gonna phone a friend. 866 00:31:21,914 --> 00:31:23,547 What? Phone a friend? 867 00:31:25,017 --> 00:31:27,451 Oh, call me. I know this one. 868 00:31:27,453 --> 00:31:30,087 The answer you're looking for is, no. 869 00:31:30,089 --> 00:31:32,789 Senator Cadman, it looked like you established contact 870 00:31:32,791 --> 00:31:33,891 - with that friend... - No. 871 00:31:33,893 --> 00:31:36,293 Without phoning. 872 00:31:36,295 --> 00:31:38,228 But I'll... I will phone a friend 873 00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:40,197 and ask senator Seitz 874 00:31:40,199 --> 00:31:43,000 who indicates that there is... 875 00:31:43,002 --> 00:31:45,969 There is a answer to that specific question. 876 00:31:45,971 --> 00:31:47,237 What? 877 00:31:47,239 --> 00:31:49,940 Just answer the question. No. 878 00:31:49,942 --> 00:31:51,308 Thank you very much, Mr. president. 879 00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:53,844 My good friend from Butler county raises a very good point 880 00:31:53,846 --> 00:31:55,812 because the requirement to get the waiver 881 00:31:55,814 --> 00:31:58,048 is that it be for financial reasons 882 00:31:58,050 --> 00:31:59,149 - and... - Clear enough, 883 00:31:59,151 --> 00:32:01,184 that's a no. 884 00:32:01,186 --> 00:32:03,654 Oh, wait, he's still talking. 885 00:32:03,656 --> 00:32:06,156 If indeed the requirement violates 886 00:32:06,158 --> 00:32:08,692 the philosophic position of the school, 887 00:32:08,694 --> 00:32:10,594 clearly, that could have a financial impact 888 00:32:10,596 --> 00:32:11,929 on the school because... 889 00:32:11,931 --> 00:32:14,698 Ah, I see where this is heading. 890 00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:16,934 I believe that this goes against their philosophy. 891 00:32:16,936 --> 00:32:19,403 They are not going to send their children to the school. 892 00:32:19,405 --> 00:32:20,771 And that will clearly create 893 00:32:20,773 --> 00:32:22,572 financial hardship to the school, 894 00:32:22,574 --> 00:32:23,941 then therefore, all they've got to do 895 00:32:23,943 --> 00:32:25,676 is turn in an affidavit. 896 00:32:25,678 --> 00:32:26,877 In other words, 897 00:32:26,879 --> 00:32:29,813 make up a fantastic, convoluted story 898 00:32:29,815 --> 00:32:33,150 that ends with an imaginary financial hardship 899 00:32:33,152 --> 00:32:34,618 for your school. 900 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:37,521 Then, with a wink and a nod from the state, 901 00:32:37,523 --> 00:32:38,855 you've got yourself a waiver. 902 00:32:38,857 --> 00:32:40,390 The beauty of this amendment 903 00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:42,359 is that the affidavit is in effect, 904 00:32:42,361 --> 00:32:43,927 self-effectuating. 905 00:32:43,929 --> 00:32:45,662 It is an automatic waiver 906 00:32:45,664 --> 00:32:47,698 and that's why that last sentence... 907 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:48,999 My dad once told me 908 00:32:49,001 --> 00:32:50,500 that people shouldn't see 909 00:32:50,502 --> 00:32:53,136 how sausage in malls are made. 910 00:32:53,138 --> 00:32:55,305 I never really understood what that meant 911 00:32:55,307 --> 00:32:56,673 until just now. 912 00:32:56,675 --> 00:32:58,041 So, for those schools 913 00:32:58,043 --> 00:32:59,876 that have a philosophic objection 914 00:32:59,878 --> 00:33:01,678 that will lead to financial hardship, 915 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,281 for those schools that don't wanna spend the extra money 916 00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:05,849 for financial hardship, 917 00:33:05,851 --> 00:33:07,317 one simple affidavit 918 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:08,952 is a self-effectuating way... 919 00:33:08,954 --> 00:33:12,055 Ugh, that's disgusting. 920 00:33:12,057 --> 00:33:14,591 Can we just take that off the screen, please? 921 00:33:15,693 --> 00:33:17,928 Oh, okay, that's better. 922 00:33:17,930 --> 00:33:20,197 I'm sorry everybody had to see that. 923 00:33:21,632 --> 00:33:23,467 Then again, I'm just a kid. 924 00:33:23,469 --> 00:33:25,235 I'm probably just misunderstanding 925 00:33:25,237 --> 00:33:27,537 all of this beautiful language. 926 00:33:27,539 --> 00:33:28,705 The board signed off on it 927 00:33:28,707 --> 00:33:30,440 and I made the application for the waiver. 928 00:33:30,442 --> 00:33:32,275 I don't think it was a great financial burden. 929 00:33:32,277 --> 00:33:35,178 It was more of a philosophical. 930 00:33:35,180 --> 00:33:36,613 Nope, I was right. 931 00:33:36,615 --> 00:33:38,482 We're all in the same page here. 932 00:33:43,388 --> 00:33:45,088 In spite of the criticism, 933 00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:46,923 other states have begun adopting 934 00:33:46,925 --> 00:33:49,426 similar BMI notifications. 935 00:33:49,428 --> 00:33:53,130 But why are they so popular among lawmakers? 936 00:33:53,132 --> 00:33:54,865 At Columbia university, 937 00:33:54,867 --> 00:33:57,834 I met with professor Sayantani Dasgupta 938 00:33:57,836 --> 00:33:59,669 who is also a pediatrician 939 00:33:59,671 --> 00:34:00,737 and mother. 940 00:34:00,739 --> 00:34:03,040 We have these knee jerk reactions 941 00:34:03,042 --> 00:34:05,809 to things that we see as crisis. 942 00:34:05,811 --> 00:34:07,577 And we wanna do the right thing, right? 943 00:34:07,579 --> 00:34:10,080 We want a healthy nation of kids. 944 00:34:10,082 --> 00:34:11,715 And so, we think, 945 00:34:11,717 --> 00:34:14,217 "well, gee, what's something quick 946 00:34:14,219 --> 00:34:16,853 and far reaching and simple that we can do?" 947 00:34:16,855 --> 00:34:19,222 And I think that's how people fall into these traps 948 00:34:19,224 --> 00:34:21,191 of legislation like this. 949 00:34:21,193 --> 00:34:22,893 And it's very attractive 950 00:34:22,895 --> 00:34:25,162 kind of one quick answer, 951 00:34:25,164 --> 00:34:26,263 one quick number 952 00:34:26,265 --> 00:34:29,232 that's gonna tell you healthy or not? 953 00:34:29,234 --> 00:34:30,434 And yet, 954 00:34:30,436 --> 00:34:33,603 the indicator itself, BMI itself, 955 00:34:33,605 --> 00:34:37,407 may not be an accurate measure of anything. 956 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,043 And that's a really 957 00:34:40,045 --> 00:34:41,945 kind of harsh reality to face 958 00:34:41,947 --> 00:34:43,513 when you've made a bunch of legislation 959 00:34:43,515 --> 00:34:46,917 based on the truthiness of this number. 960 00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:49,052 Then, the possibility is, 961 00:34:49,054 --> 00:34:51,755 no matter how good the intentions, 962 00:34:51,757 --> 00:34:54,524 we might be doing more harm than good, right? 963 00:34:54,526 --> 00:34:55,826 But it seems lawmakers 964 00:34:55,828 --> 00:34:58,462 don't wanna talk about that possibility 965 00:34:58,464 --> 00:35:00,530 and all the good intentions in the world 966 00:35:00,532 --> 00:35:02,966 don't necessarily lead to good results. 967 00:35:02,968 --> 00:35:05,135 So, with everyone I interview, 968 00:35:05,137 --> 00:35:07,437 I conduct my own BMI test. 969 00:35:07,439 --> 00:35:08,972 And so... yes. Do you now? 970 00:35:08,974 --> 00:35:10,674 So I have a scale today 971 00:35:10,676 --> 00:35:12,109 and I was wondering, 972 00:35:12,111 --> 00:35:15,245 would you like to be a part of my BMI test? 973 00:35:15,247 --> 00:35:17,447 Thank you very much for the offer. 974 00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:20,050 Um, I don't think our young people 975 00:35:20,052 --> 00:35:22,486 should be being weighed in gym class. 976 00:35:22,488 --> 00:35:24,821 And I think I will choose 977 00:35:24,823 --> 00:35:27,324 to not be weighed today either. 978 00:35:27,326 --> 00:35:29,526 Okay, I totally understand. 979 00:35:29,528 --> 00:35:32,062 So, you'd like to exercise your right to choose? 980 00:35:32,064 --> 00:35:33,130 I do. You choose no. 981 00:35:33,132 --> 00:35:35,532 Although I appreciate your private... 982 00:35:35,534 --> 00:35:38,735 Yeah. Door-to-door BMI service. 983 00:35:38,737 --> 00:35:40,704 It's perfectly fine. You know, 984 00:35:40,706 --> 00:35:42,005 I exercise my right 985 00:35:42,007 --> 00:35:45,075 and I'm not particularly affected by it. 986 00:35:45,077 --> 00:35:47,444 What worries me is that I don't think 987 00:35:47,446 --> 00:35:49,679 my 10-year-old daughter, 988 00:35:49,681 --> 00:35:51,781 I don't think she would have the room 989 00:35:51,783 --> 00:35:53,450 - or even know it was an option... - Yeah. 990 00:35:53,452 --> 00:35:56,786 To exercise her right not to get on that scale. 991 00:35:56,788 --> 00:35:58,522 Officials in several states have adapted 992 00:35:58,524 --> 00:35:59,923 a controversial tactic 993 00:35:59,925 --> 00:36:01,992 in trying to bring childhood obesity 994 00:36:01,994 --> 00:36:03,093 under control. 995 00:36:03,095 --> 00:36:04,494 They're sending what some call... 996 00:36:04,496 --> 00:36:06,830 Nineteen states across the country 997 00:36:06,832 --> 00:36:07,998 this September 998 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,000 are considering sending these letters home. 999 00:36:10,002 --> 00:36:13,069 States across from, uh, new York to Arkansas to Illinois 1000 00:36:13,071 --> 00:36:14,371 are participating in this. 1001 00:36:14,373 --> 00:36:17,040 They're monitoring how fat the kid is... 1002 00:36:17,042 --> 00:36:18,542 Florida law that requires students 1003 00:36:18,544 --> 00:36:21,311 to have health screenings is stirring up controversy. 1004 00:36:21,313 --> 00:36:23,813 The parents of a young girl in Naples, Florida... 1005 00:36:23,815 --> 00:36:25,649 are being sent home to children as a part 1006 00:36:25,651 --> 00:36:28,185 of the Massachusetts department of public health's policy 1007 00:36:28,187 --> 00:36:31,254 to inform parents of their child's body mass index 1008 00:36:31,256 --> 00:36:34,191 or BMI and their risk of obesity. 1009 00:36:49,106 --> 00:36:51,007 As government BMI initiatives 1010 00:36:51,009 --> 00:36:52,275 and fat letters 1011 00:36:52,277 --> 00:36:54,544 spread like wildfire across the country, 1012 00:36:54,546 --> 00:36:56,446 it even extends to kids 1013 00:36:56,448 --> 00:36:58,348 who aren't overweight at all. 1014 00:36:58,350 --> 00:37:00,984 We got it, everyone got it that day in school. 1015 00:37:00,986 --> 00:37:03,320 And, you know, we were all... 1016 00:37:03,322 --> 00:37:06,223 I think we were pretty much all called overweight. 1017 00:37:06,225 --> 00:37:08,491 My friend said she cried at home 1018 00:37:08,493 --> 00:37:10,360 because she was called obese. 1019 00:37:10,362 --> 00:37:12,662 And she's not obese. 1020 00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:14,664 And it was one of my best friends, you know. 1021 00:37:14,666 --> 00:37:16,833 Yeah. 1022 00:37:16,835 --> 00:37:18,935 So, it says that I'm 60... 1023 00:37:18,937 --> 00:37:21,271 I was 66 pounds... Uh-huh. 1024 00:37:21,273 --> 00:37:23,540 And my BMI was 19. 1025 00:37:23,542 --> 00:37:25,175 Okay. So, it says here, current BMI 1026 00:37:25,177 --> 00:37:27,811 is 19, placing you in the 88th percentile 1027 00:37:27,813 --> 00:37:30,347 for child... For girls age nine. 1028 00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:32,215 Your BMI falls outside the healthy weight. 1029 00:37:32,217 --> 00:37:35,552 Please review your BMI with a healthcare provider. 1030 00:37:35,554 --> 00:37:39,456 And I was like, "oh, I'm overweight." 1031 00:37:39,458 --> 00:37:40,557 Yeah. And, like, at first, 1032 00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:42,425 I was like, "oh, I'm only 66 pounds." 1033 00:37:42,427 --> 00:37:44,094 And then, I looked, I'm like... 1034 00:37:44,096 --> 00:37:45,562 I'm like, wow. 1035 00:37:45,564 --> 00:37:48,064 The normal... I'm 88th percentile... 1036 00:37:48,066 --> 00:37:49,199 - Uh-huh. - And the normal one 1037 00:37:49,201 --> 00:37:51,134 is 77th percentile. 1038 00:37:51,136 --> 00:37:53,036 So, I'm only 10 away from normal... 1039 00:37:53,038 --> 00:37:54,104 From like, you know, 1040 00:37:54,106 --> 00:37:55,905 what they say is normal health. 1041 00:37:55,907 --> 00:37:57,374 They're going about it in the wrong way. 1042 00:37:57,376 --> 00:38:00,343 To me, it's just a way for them to say, 1043 00:38:00,345 --> 00:38:01,645 "well, we're doing something. 1044 00:38:01,647 --> 00:38:03,947 We're combating childhood obesity." 1045 00:38:03,949 --> 00:38:05,949 You're not combating childhood obesity. 1046 00:38:05,951 --> 00:38:07,017 You're... you know, 1047 00:38:07,019 --> 00:38:08,785 you're simply sending home a letter 1048 00:38:08,787 --> 00:38:10,020 that in fact might be doing 1049 00:38:10,022 --> 00:38:12,455 more psychological harm 1050 00:38:12,457 --> 00:38:14,658 than physical wellbeing. 1051 00:38:14,660 --> 00:38:17,227 You know, we hear so much in the news now 1052 00:38:17,229 --> 00:38:19,162 about the obesity epidemic. 1053 00:38:19,164 --> 00:38:21,331 And this is not to minimize the seriousness of it, 1054 00:38:21,333 --> 00:38:22,866 but we also have an epidemic 1055 00:38:22,868 --> 00:38:24,100 of eating disorders. 1056 00:38:24,102 --> 00:38:25,869 And we need to make sure 1057 00:38:25,871 --> 00:38:29,239 that in our efforts to confront one epidemic, 1058 00:38:29,241 --> 00:38:31,141 we're not adding fuel to the fire 1059 00:38:31,143 --> 00:38:34,144 of another one which is what we're hearing so much 1060 00:38:34,146 --> 00:38:36,579 that this, perhaps, well-intentioned, 1061 00:38:36,581 --> 00:38:39,082 but incredibly misguided approach 1062 00:38:39,084 --> 00:38:40,884 of screening kids for BMI 1063 00:38:40,886 --> 00:38:42,519 and sending home letters 1064 00:38:42,521 --> 00:38:45,655 is actually triggering eating disorders 1065 00:38:45,657 --> 00:38:49,392 and stoking an intense fear of fat 1066 00:38:49,394 --> 00:38:50,493 in young children 1067 00:38:50,495 --> 00:38:52,929 who don't need to be thinking about that. 1068 00:38:52,931 --> 00:38:56,199 It's very toxic, kind of, thinking for kids. 1069 00:38:56,201 --> 00:38:58,001 It was actually getting this letter 1070 00:38:58,003 --> 00:39:00,003 that then made her question, 1071 00:39:00,005 --> 00:39:01,204 is she overweight? 1072 00:39:01,206 --> 00:39:03,473 Which made her then examine her body, 1073 00:39:03,475 --> 00:39:05,175 you know, asking, "is it this? 1074 00:39:05,177 --> 00:39:07,110 Is it my thigh? Is it my stomach?" 1075 00:39:07,112 --> 00:39:08,178 And then, 1076 00:39:08,180 --> 00:39:10,146 it was a frantic feeling almost 1077 00:39:10,148 --> 00:39:12,115 of me trying to... 1078 00:39:12,117 --> 00:39:14,317 Trying to tell like, "no, no, everything's fine. 1079 00:39:14,319 --> 00:39:15,385 "No, that's perfect. 1080 00:39:15,387 --> 00:39:16,720 "You're perfect. That's fine. 1081 00:39:16,722 --> 00:39:18,221 Don't worry about that. That's not what they mean." 1082 00:39:18,223 --> 00:39:19,889 And all this encouraging. 1083 00:39:19,891 --> 00:39:21,591 That is what... 1084 00:39:21,593 --> 00:39:23,693 Was most disturbing about the whole thing. 1085 00:39:23,695 --> 00:39:24,994 Is that now, you just put this 1086 00:39:24,996 --> 00:39:26,730 into my nine-year-old's head. 1087 00:39:26,732 --> 00:39:29,132 You put this thought into her head. 1088 00:39:31,569 --> 00:39:34,337 Are you against vision screenings at school? 1089 00:39:34,339 --> 00:39:36,339 Are you against hearing screenings at school? 1090 00:39:36,341 --> 00:39:38,675 Are you against scoliosis screenings at school? 1091 00:39:38,677 --> 00:39:40,210 I'm not. I think it's great 1092 00:39:40,212 --> 00:39:42,245 that our schools help us out in that way. 1093 00:39:42,247 --> 00:39:44,681 And the thing about children's weight 1094 00:39:44,683 --> 00:39:47,150 is study after study show 1095 00:39:47,152 --> 00:39:49,486 that parents don't recognize 1096 00:39:49,488 --> 00:39:50,887 their children's weight problems. 1097 00:39:50,889 --> 00:39:52,489 You just kind of don't see it. 1098 00:39:52,491 --> 00:39:54,724 You think your kid is kind of normal, and so... 1099 00:39:54,726 --> 00:39:56,126 Well, that may be true, 1100 00:39:56,128 --> 00:39:59,062 but how did these studies define obesity? 1101 00:39:59,064 --> 00:40:02,198 I mean, would we even agree with the definition 1102 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,934 or would we be counted as fat blind? 1103 00:40:04,936 --> 00:40:07,670 Like these parents who also received letters 1104 00:40:07,672 --> 00:40:09,572 calling their kids overweight. 1105 00:40:09,574 --> 00:40:12,442 But apparently, they just don't see it. 1106 00:40:12,444 --> 00:40:14,544 And he came home and said, 1107 00:40:14,546 --> 00:40:17,447 "I'm fat." I said, "you're not fat. 1108 00:40:17,449 --> 00:40:19,849 That's... where did you hear that?" 1109 00:40:19,851 --> 00:40:21,017 He said, "from school. 1110 00:40:21,019 --> 00:40:22,318 "I opened up my fitness gram 1111 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,354 and it said I'm fat." 1112 00:40:24,356 --> 00:40:26,289 Clearly, this mother is delusional 1113 00:40:26,291 --> 00:40:28,858 and can't see her own son's obesity 1114 00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:30,660 the same way the state does. 1115 00:40:30,662 --> 00:40:32,595 Does that make you feel really bad about yourself, too? 1116 00:40:32,597 --> 00:40:34,097 Did you look at yourself in the mirror... 1117 00:40:34,099 --> 00:40:35,165 Yes. 1118 00:40:35,167 --> 00:40:36,866 You did? 1119 00:40:36,868 --> 00:40:38,802 The thing about the BMI screening 1120 00:40:38,804 --> 00:40:41,204 is that the reason the parents 1121 00:40:41,206 --> 00:40:44,407 are in an uproar over it, 1122 00:40:44,409 --> 00:40:46,876 the f isn't for fat. 1123 00:40:46,878 --> 00:40:48,978 The f is for parenting. 1124 00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:51,281 Those letters come home and parents feel like 1125 00:40:51,283 --> 00:40:54,284 it's an indictment on them and it is. 1126 00:40:54,286 --> 00:40:56,152 You know, what's for them to say 1127 00:40:56,154 --> 00:40:58,421 that my daughter is overweight? Yeah. 1128 00:40:58,423 --> 00:41:01,424 My daughter is actually active. 1129 00:41:01,426 --> 00:41:03,126 She's black belt, 1130 00:41:03,128 --> 00:41:04,594 not everybody is going to have 1131 00:41:04,596 --> 00:41:06,863 the model image, skinny 1132 00:41:06,865 --> 00:41:09,265 that the government or whoever say 1133 00:41:09,267 --> 00:41:11,234 that they need to be skinny. 1134 00:41:11,236 --> 00:41:12,969 I don't think she's overweight. 1135 00:41:12,971 --> 00:41:15,238 I think she's fine the way she is. 1136 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:16,773 Well, they said I was obese. 1137 00:41:16,775 --> 00:41:18,408 I thought, "oh, my gosh, 1138 00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:20,076 why are they thinking like this?" 1139 00:41:20,078 --> 00:41:22,412 I felt like I was... I wanted to cry. 1140 00:41:22,414 --> 00:41:24,848 Go straight to my room and cry. 1141 00:41:24,850 --> 00:41:26,182 Just do what I did. 1142 00:41:26,184 --> 00:41:27,617 They don't... They don't know us. 1143 00:41:27,619 --> 00:41:28,651 You did when you got home? 1144 00:41:28,653 --> 00:41:31,588 Yeah, but I was thinking to myself, 1145 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:32,989 I was remembering what I eat every night, 1146 00:41:32,991 --> 00:41:36,593 a daily serving of veggies and fruits. 1147 00:41:36,595 --> 00:41:37,794 So, I was like, 1148 00:41:37,796 --> 00:41:38,928 "if I have my fruits and veggies, 1149 00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:41,664 why do they call me obese?" 1150 00:41:41,666 --> 00:41:43,132 Yeah. There's no reason 1151 00:41:43,134 --> 00:41:44,200 for saying that. 1152 00:41:44,202 --> 00:41:46,169 It's like they called everybody that. 1153 00:41:46,171 --> 00:41:47,637 Each one of these kids 1154 00:41:47,639 --> 00:41:49,239 received a fat letter. 1155 00:41:49,241 --> 00:41:50,773 Like, they had a little measurement, 1156 00:41:50,775 --> 00:41:53,476 but they were called overweight. 1157 00:41:53,478 --> 00:41:55,044 The focus on body shape 1158 00:41:55,046 --> 00:41:56,813 and body image in our society 1159 00:41:56,815 --> 00:41:58,681 has become very extreme. 1160 00:41:58,683 --> 00:42:00,149 And, you know, 1161 00:42:00,151 --> 00:42:02,886 it's not improved a lot over the years 1162 00:42:02,888 --> 00:42:04,888 where young women particularly, 1163 00:42:04,890 --> 00:42:06,556 but I always have to mention 1164 00:42:06,558 --> 00:42:09,859 young men are forced into categories. 1165 00:42:09,861 --> 00:42:12,529 Well, that's what they think of us. 1166 00:42:12,531 --> 00:42:13,830 Yeah. It's not like they're judging us 1167 00:42:13,832 --> 00:42:16,165 by who we really are. 1168 00:42:16,167 --> 00:42:18,635 Kids, yeah, you can make health fun with them. 1169 00:42:18,637 --> 00:42:20,169 And it doesn't have to be accusatory, 1170 00:42:20,171 --> 00:42:21,638 it doesn't have to blame, 1171 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,773 and it doesn't have to make a poor child 1172 00:42:23,775 --> 00:42:25,375 grab the body fat on their side 1173 00:42:25,377 --> 00:42:27,810 and say, "this is what they're talking about." 1174 00:42:29,213 --> 00:42:30,947 I've brought a scale 1175 00:42:30,949 --> 00:42:32,282 right here 1176 00:42:32,284 --> 00:42:34,918 and I was wondering if you'd like to participate 1177 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,220 in my own private BMI test. 1178 00:42:37,222 --> 00:42:38,288 Come back in three months 1179 00:42:38,290 --> 00:42:40,456 when I've had time to lose a few. 1180 00:42:41,692 --> 00:42:43,026 You're fine. 1181 00:42:43,028 --> 00:42:45,428 No one else has wanted to be weighed. 1182 00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:47,931 I don't blame you. All right. 1183 00:42:47,933 --> 00:42:49,966 Through this experience, I've talked to many kids 1184 00:42:49,968 --> 00:42:52,535 and a lot of them are very healthy. 1185 00:42:52,537 --> 00:42:54,637 And they even say when they go to school 1186 00:42:54,639 --> 00:42:56,839 they feel really embarrassed. 1187 00:42:56,841 --> 00:42:58,641 Even though they're healthy, they feel embarrassed 1188 00:42:58,643 --> 00:43:01,778 to get on the scale at the school setting. 1189 00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:04,380 What do you think about this? 1190 00:43:04,382 --> 00:43:07,150 Well, weight has become a stigmatized subject 1191 00:43:07,152 --> 00:43:09,052 because a lot of people are embarrassed about their weight 1192 00:43:09,054 --> 00:43:10,987 and children are taught that you don't discuss weight. 1193 00:43:10,989 --> 00:43:12,822 You're not allowed to ask people's age and weight, 1194 00:43:12,824 --> 00:43:14,157 it's so silly. These are just numbers, 1195 00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:15,258 - these are just facts. - Yeah. 1196 00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:16,426 How old you are, how tall you are, 1197 00:43:16,428 --> 00:43:17,827 how much you weigh are just numbers. 1198 00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:20,129 And so we sort if spread this, 1199 00:43:20,131 --> 00:43:23,032 discomfort about our weight even for people who have, 1200 00:43:23,034 --> 00:43:24,601 like, what? I'm this number 1201 00:43:24,603 --> 00:43:25,935 - and it means nothing to me. - Yeah. 1202 00:43:25,937 --> 00:43:28,137 We make them feel, I think a little 1203 00:43:28,139 --> 00:43:30,607 uncomfortable about it because society's uncomfortable 1204 00:43:30,609 --> 00:43:33,009 - about the subject of weight. - Yeah. 1205 00:43:33,011 --> 00:43:35,378 Now, everyone I interview, 1206 00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:37,413 I conduct my own BMI test. 1207 00:43:37,415 --> 00:43:39,182 Ah. Yeah. And so, 1208 00:43:39,184 --> 00:43:41,584 I mean, just to be fair, I'm gonna ask you. 1209 00:43:41,586 --> 00:43:42,952 I have a scale here today. 1210 00:43:42,954 --> 00:43:44,954 Oh, no, I have to weigh today? 1211 00:43:44,956 --> 00:43:46,823 If you want, I'll give you a choice. 1212 00:43:46,825 --> 00:43:48,491 I have a scale here, and would you want 1213 00:43:48,493 --> 00:43:51,427 to participate in my own BMI test? 1214 00:43:51,429 --> 00:43:54,397 So this would be between me and you. 1215 00:43:54,399 --> 00:43:56,599 Not really. 1216 00:43:56,601 --> 00:43:58,267 It... that is perfectly okay. 1217 00:43:58,269 --> 00:44:00,003 No one had said yes. I have to think about that. 1218 00:44:00,005 --> 00:44:01,337 I have to think about... that's... No, no, no, 1219 00:44:01,339 --> 00:44:02,939 everyone had said no. Everyone had said no? 1220 00:44:02,941 --> 00:44:05,274 No one wants to go on the scale. Because they don't wanna weigh? 1221 00:44:05,276 --> 00:44:06,342 Yeah. 1222 00:44:06,344 --> 00:44:09,078 Yeah, and even you said the one thing you wished 1223 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,780 when BMI was in school 1224 00:44:10,782 --> 00:44:12,849 is that they weigh the kid... Privately. 1225 00:44:12,851 --> 00:44:14,951 Privately, not in front of their friends. 1226 00:44:14,953 --> 00:44:16,886 Yeah. Very, very private, you know. 1227 00:44:16,888 --> 00:44:19,022 Yeah, I do... I do think it's private, 1228 00:44:19,024 --> 00:44:20,823 - but for me, right now. - Yeah... 1229 00:44:20,825 --> 00:44:22,158 This minute, this week, 1230 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,861 I happen to know that I'm really heavy for me. 1231 00:44:24,863 --> 00:44:26,696 Otherwise, I'd be jumping on your scale, 1232 00:44:26,698 --> 00:44:28,898 like, of course I'd be happy. Yeah. 1233 00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:31,534 So, I feel like it's terrible of me 1234 00:44:31,536 --> 00:44:33,069 to not really want to. Yeah. 1235 00:44:33,071 --> 00:44:35,338 But it's because I don't wanna face reality 1236 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:37,106 that I already know, which I'm about five pounds 1237 00:44:37,108 --> 00:44:38,541 heavier than I should be. Yeah. 1238 00:44:38,543 --> 00:44:40,843 And I know exactly why. 1239 00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:42,545 I know Halloween. Yeah, exactly. 1240 00:44:42,547 --> 00:44:44,013 I know the fudge tart cookies, 1241 00:44:44,015 --> 00:44:45,682 I know the nutter butters. 1242 00:44:45,684 --> 00:44:47,583 Uh-huh. I know why. 1243 00:44:47,585 --> 00:44:49,619 And, so I think that's why 1244 00:44:49,621 --> 00:44:50,920 - I don't wanna deal with it. - Yeah. 1245 00:44:50,922 --> 00:44:52,722 But, i... But I don't think it's fair. 1246 00:44:52,724 --> 00:44:54,057 I think I should get on your scale. 1247 00:44:54,059 --> 00:44:56,926 I think it's weasel of me... We... very weaselly of me 1248 00:44:56,928 --> 00:44:59,028 - to not get on your scale. - No, I understand. 1249 00:44:59,030 --> 00:45:00,997 No, I will weigh myself only... Yeah. 1250 00:45:00,999 --> 00:45:03,466 Because I think it's wrong not to. 1251 00:45:03,468 --> 00:45:04,500 Yeah. But I've given you every reason 1252 00:45:04,502 --> 00:45:06,536 why I hate it as much as anybody else 1253 00:45:06,538 --> 00:45:07,770 and I don't wanna go on the record 1254 00:45:07,772 --> 00:45:08,905 that I've ever been this heavy. 1255 00:45:08,907 --> 00:45:11,007 I'm so mad because I shouldn't be, 1256 00:45:11,009 --> 00:45:12,809 but let's do it. You... oh, are you sure? 1257 00:45:12,811 --> 00:45:14,777 Yeah, no, it's fair. Okay. 1258 00:45:14,779 --> 00:45:16,679 Oh, you put it right here. Okay, one second. 1259 00:45:16,681 --> 00:45:19,015 So, what is my... What is my allowance on... 1260 00:45:19,017 --> 00:45:20,283 Yeah. Well... All these pretend pounds 1261 00:45:20,285 --> 00:45:22,885 of clothes that I'm wearing? 1262 00:45:22,887 --> 00:45:24,921 We'll take off five pounds. 1263 00:45:24,923 --> 00:45:26,022 Okay. Okay. 1264 00:45:26,024 --> 00:45:27,457 So here's the thing... So, tap it once 1265 00:45:27,459 --> 00:45:29,425 and then you step on it. Tap it and then get it on? 1266 00:45:29,427 --> 00:45:30,693 Yeah. So this is why really sucks 1267 00:45:30,695 --> 00:45:31,961 because... okay, there. Oh, oh, sorry. 1268 00:45:31,963 --> 00:45:33,596 So, um... What were you saying? 1269 00:45:33,598 --> 00:45:35,364 Don't step on it yet. 'Cause I know that I'm... 1270 00:45:35,366 --> 00:45:37,366 Okay, you tell me... Do I do it now? 1271 00:45:37,368 --> 00:45:39,035 Now you can. Okay. 1272 00:45:39,037 --> 00:45:40,670 So this is gonna really suck for me... 1273 00:45:40,672 --> 00:45:43,072 Uh-hmm. Because... oh. 1274 00:45:43,074 --> 00:45:44,941 So I'm about five overruns this week, 1275 00:45:44,943 --> 00:45:46,509 but I can live with that. With everyone's support, yeah. 1276 00:45:46,511 --> 00:45:48,611 But that is what it is. 1277 00:45:48,613 --> 00:45:50,980 As I travel the country with my scale 1278 00:45:50,982 --> 00:45:53,683 making friends and making my case 1279 00:45:53,685 --> 00:45:55,752 I still couldn't reach the one person 1280 00:45:55,754 --> 00:45:58,921 closest to my home. 1281 00:45:58,923 --> 00:46:02,458 And then out of the blue it happened. 1282 00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:04,093 I'm sitting here at the computer 1283 00:46:04,095 --> 00:46:07,130 doing my homework and I look over to the TV 1284 00:46:07,132 --> 00:46:09,365 and senator Kearney is on the news. 1285 00:46:09,367 --> 00:46:11,968 This is the man I've been chasing for so long 1286 00:46:11,970 --> 00:46:14,337 and he's on the news. 1287 00:46:14,339 --> 00:46:17,440 Okay. Hold on. Let me rewind this. 1288 00:46:18,909 --> 00:46:21,911 I just literally got an email from the campaign 1289 00:46:21,913 --> 00:46:23,179 - two minutes ago. - Senator Kearney, 1290 00:46:23,181 --> 00:46:24,714 that's him. So, Wednesday, it looks 1291 00:46:24,716 --> 00:46:25,915 like the president is going 1292 00:46:25,917 --> 00:46:27,216 to be here. The man who doesn't give 1293 00:46:27,218 --> 00:46:29,752 interviews is on the news. 1294 00:46:29,754 --> 00:46:31,087 And he says where he's gonna be. 1295 00:46:31,089 --> 00:46:32,855 President Obama is expected to arrive 1296 00:46:32,857 --> 00:46:34,223 in Cincinnati tomorrow night. 1297 00:46:34,225 --> 00:46:36,859 It's gonna be his free 1298 00:46:36,861 --> 00:46:39,061 two minutes ago, so, Wednesday, 1299 00:46:39,063 --> 00:46:42,632 it looks like the president is going to be here. 1300 00:46:42,634 --> 00:46:43,833 And he's gonna be there, too. 1301 00:46:43,835 --> 00:46:46,235 I guess him and the president are tight. 1302 00:46:47,538 --> 00:46:50,173 I got to find out where there is. 1303 00:47:05,857 --> 00:47:07,723 I'm sorry but we won't be able 1304 00:47:07,725 --> 00:47:09,125 to get you any more tickets 1305 00:47:09,127 --> 00:47:11,194 because the event is sold-out. 1306 00:47:11,196 --> 00:47:12,662 I'm trying to think is there any other, 1307 00:47:12,664 --> 00:47:14,764 like, way I could get it in? 1308 00:47:14,766 --> 00:47:17,700 There'd be any extra seating, I can stand. 1309 00:47:17,702 --> 00:47:18,968 Well, you're welcome to come down 1310 00:47:18,970 --> 00:47:21,237 and show your support, but without a ticket, 1311 00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,372 I'm afraid you won't be able to get in. 1312 00:47:23,374 --> 00:47:26,242 I'm a student and I'm studying journalism 1313 00:47:26,244 --> 00:47:28,110 and, um, 1314 00:47:28,112 --> 00:47:30,179 and I would like to get in because I'm trying 1315 00:47:30,181 --> 00:47:32,215 to get this interview with the senator. 1316 00:47:32,217 --> 00:47:34,183 Well, if you have a press pass, 1317 00:47:34,185 --> 00:47:36,552 you might be able to get in that way, 1318 00:47:36,554 --> 00:47:38,354 but that's not handled by us. 1319 00:47:38,356 --> 00:47:41,123 Do you have press credentials from your school? 1320 00:47:41,125 --> 00:47:43,526 What are press credentials? 1321 00:47:43,528 --> 00:47:45,461 Well, press credentials are like an ID 1322 00:47:45,463 --> 00:47:47,063 that identify you as a journalist 1323 00:47:47,065 --> 00:47:49,365 or at work. Okay. 1324 00:47:49,367 --> 00:47:51,934 But again, press passes aren't issued by us. 1325 00:47:51,936 --> 00:47:54,270 That's handled by the president's staff. 1326 00:47:54,272 --> 00:47:56,372 So, I'm not really sure 1327 00:47:56,374 --> 00:47:58,274 what to tell you there. 1328 00:47:58,276 --> 00:48:00,109 I may not have press credentials, 1329 00:48:00,111 --> 00:48:03,379 but I have Photoshop and a printer. 1330 00:48:53,864 --> 00:48:55,498 My heart was racing. 1331 00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:58,968 After all this time, I've almost made it, 1332 00:48:58,970 --> 00:49:02,305 and behind this door was my destiny. 1333 00:49:05,409 --> 00:49:09,245 Actually I was wrong. 1334 00:49:09,247 --> 00:49:11,914 Behind that door was the secret service. 1335 00:49:14,885 --> 00:49:16,218 Thank you. 1336 00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:17,954 After a few uncomfortable minutes 1337 00:49:17,956 --> 00:49:20,656 of explaining myself, 1338 00:49:20,658 --> 00:49:23,960 turns out the president's people were kind of cool. 1339 00:49:28,765 --> 00:49:31,867 They even issued me a white house press pass 1340 00:49:31,869 --> 00:49:34,203 for the event. 1341 00:49:39,810 --> 00:49:41,577 Hi. This is Bailey Webber. 1342 00:49:41,579 --> 00:49:43,980 I'm here from university of Cincinnati 1343 00:49:43,982 --> 00:49:45,781 and I saw on the news that senator Kearney 1344 00:49:45,783 --> 00:49:47,116 was gonna be here. 1345 00:49:47,118 --> 00:49:50,453 So I was hoping maybe to get an interview with him. 1346 00:49:50,455 --> 00:49:53,456 I'm in the press area, so it'd be great 1347 00:49:53,458 --> 00:49:55,891 if you give me a call back maybe if you can come over here 1348 00:49:55,893 --> 00:49:57,560 and just talk to me. That'd be great. 1349 00:49:57,562 --> 00:49:59,895 Thank you so much. Bye. 1350 00:50:01,598 --> 00:50:03,366 Maybe he's here. 1351 00:50:11,942 --> 00:50:13,909 Hello, Ohio. 1352 00:50:17,214 --> 00:50:19,015 Wow. 1353 00:50:19,017 --> 00:50:20,483 It's the president. 1354 00:50:22,153 --> 00:50:25,254 The fight just yet. 1355 00:50:25,256 --> 00:50:28,357 I am not ready to give up on that fight. 1356 00:50:32,295 --> 00:50:34,397 Wait, Kearney's right over there. 1357 00:50:34,399 --> 00:50:36,265 For those of you who 1358 00:50:36,267 --> 00:50:38,768 and still trying to open their minds. 1359 00:50:38,770 --> 00:50:41,070 This is not just a choice between two candidates 1360 00:50:41,072 --> 00:50:43,172 and two parties, it's a choice between two 1361 00:50:43,174 --> 00:50:44,940 - different visions of America. - Where is he? 1362 00:50:44,942 --> 00:50:46,242 He just left. 1363 00:50:46,244 --> 00:50:47,476 He was standing right over there. 1364 00:50:47,478 --> 00:50:50,146 A choice between a return. 1365 00:50:50,148 --> 00:50:52,815 Hi, this is Bailey again calling for the senator 1366 00:50:52,817 --> 00:50:54,417 and I see him right here. 1367 00:50:54,419 --> 00:50:56,819 I was wondering if he could just come to the press area 1368 00:50:56,821 --> 00:50:58,554 so I can interview him real quick 1369 00:50:58,556 --> 00:50:59,755 if that's all right. 1370 00:50:59,757 --> 00:51:01,724 Thank you so much. Bye. 1371 00:51:01,726 --> 00:51:03,759 In the past, we feel the same way. 1372 00:51:03,761 --> 00:51:05,261 We want you first. You don't... 1373 00:51:05,263 --> 00:51:07,763 Let's see if he comes. 1374 00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:19,041 I got it. 1375 00:51:21,912 --> 00:51:23,312 That's him. 1376 00:51:23,314 --> 00:51:25,714 Yeah, that's him. 1377 00:51:29,153 --> 00:51:30,953 And so this can't make 1378 00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:04,620 you have to want the change, right? 1379 00:52:04,622 --> 00:52:06,455 And it starts with the choices that you make, 1380 00:52:06,457 --> 00:52:08,524 and this is what I tell my kids, 1381 00:52:08,526 --> 00:52:10,960 make healthy choices, right? 1382 00:52:10,962 --> 00:52:12,495 It's comforting to think 1383 00:52:12,497 --> 00:52:14,897 it's diet and exercise, 1384 00:52:14,899 --> 00:52:18,100 because it's something that feels controllable. 1385 00:52:18,102 --> 00:52:20,202 Just think about putting a little more fruits 1386 00:52:20,204 --> 00:52:23,172 and vegetables on that tray and then trying to eat them. 1387 00:52:23,174 --> 00:52:25,040 Can you do that? 1388 00:52:25,042 --> 00:52:26,809 Come on now. 1389 00:52:26,811 --> 00:52:28,377 There are a lot of researchers out there that, 1390 00:52:28,379 --> 00:52:31,847 that will insist it's a simple physics equation, 1391 00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:33,482 energy in, energy out, 1392 00:52:33,484 --> 00:52:35,417 and it should be fine, 1393 00:52:35,419 --> 00:52:36,685 but that's not the case. 1394 00:52:36,687 --> 00:52:39,622 You have to be active and move, right? 1395 00:52:39,624 --> 00:52:41,624 Can you help me with that? 1396 00:52:41,626 --> 00:52:43,159 Yes. Yeah. 1397 00:52:43,161 --> 00:52:45,828 We need to stop 1398 00:52:45,830 --> 00:52:47,763 putting this on the kids 1399 00:52:47,765 --> 00:52:49,031 and saying it's your fault 1400 00:52:49,033 --> 00:52:51,333 or there's something you're doing wrong. 1401 00:52:51,335 --> 00:52:52,568 We don't want whining. 1402 00:52:52,570 --> 00:52:55,204 Can you help us by not whining about a change? 1403 00:52:55,206 --> 00:52:56,839 You know, to single out kids and say, 1404 00:52:56,841 --> 00:52:58,507 "you need to change your behavior, 1405 00:52:58,509 --> 00:53:00,843 this number is a problem," 1406 00:53:00,845 --> 00:53:03,646 you know, it's not the number that's the problem, 1407 00:53:03,648 --> 00:53:05,848 it's all of the other issues. 1408 00:53:05,850 --> 00:53:07,216 It's not one single thing, 1409 00:53:07,218 --> 00:53:10,119 it's gonna be 50, 60 different things 1410 00:53:10,121 --> 00:53:11,687 that we'll have to look at. 1411 00:53:11,689 --> 00:53:12,888 The truth of the matter is, 1412 00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:14,657 there's a big problem facing our country 1413 00:53:14,659 --> 00:53:16,258 and the solution isn't that easy. 1414 00:53:18,228 --> 00:53:21,197 We have been offering eat less, 1415 00:53:21,199 --> 00:53:23,599 move more lifestyle modification, 1416 00:53:23,601 --> 00:53:25,201 which is all important, 1417 00:53:25,203 --> 00:53:26,969 but we have been offering that treatment 1418 00:53:26,971 --> 00:53:29,071 for the last 50 years. 1419 00:53:29,073 --> 00:53:31,140 If it is that simple, 1420 00:53:31,142 --> 00:53:33,375 why are we talking about obesity today? 1421 00:53:33,377 --> 00:53:35,678 Why is it not fixed 50 years ago 1422 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,747 if it was a simple cure? 1423 00:53:38,749 --> 00:53:41,050 Meet Dr. Nikhil Dhurandhar, 1424 00:53:41,052 --> 00:53:44,186 a physician with a masters in nutrition sciences 1425 00:53:44,188 --> 00:53:46,555 and a PHD in biochemistry. 1426 00:53:46,557 --> 00:53:49,892 Many, many people, when they hear the word obesity, 1427 00:53:49,894 --> 00:53:52,561 the first they think... Probably think of 1428 00:53:52,563 --> 00:53:55,664 is that these people who are suffering from obesity, 1429 00:53:55,666 --> 00:53:57,866 they have no willpower 1430 00:53:57,868 --> 00:53:59,468 or no self-discipline, 1431 00:53:59,470 --> 00:54:02,671 and that is what has caused their obesity. 1432 00:54:02,673 --> 00:54:05,774 But remember that obesity is a disease. 1433 00:54:05,776 --> 00:54:07,810 Yeah. It chooses you, 1434 00:54:07,812 --> 00:54:09,945 you don't choose obesity. 1435 00:54:09,947 --> 00:54:11,914 Dr. Dhurandhar's lifework 1436 00:54:11,916 --> 00:54:14,817 has revolved around researching obesity. 1437 00:54:14,819 --> 00:54:16,385 His dad is known as the father 1438 00:54:16,387 --> 00:54:18,988 of obesity practice in India, 1439 00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:20,189 and he's not only the chair 1440 00:54:20,191 --> 00:54:22,992 and professor of nutritional sciences 1441 00:54:22,994 --> 00:54:25,361 here at Texas tech university, 1442 00:54:25,363 --> 00:54:28,731 but he's also president of the obesity society. 1443 00:54:28,733 --> 00:54:31,600 Maybe we should listen to what he has to say. 1444 00:54:31,602 --> 00:54:33,168 But some people seem to think 1445 00:54:33,170 --> 00:54:34,870 they have inherent knowledge 1446 00:54:34,872 --> 00:54:37,439 about how to prevent or treat obesity 1447 00:54:37,441 --> 00:54:39,308 without necessarily studying 1448 00:54:39,310 --> 00:54:41,677 the science of obesity 1449 00:54:41,679 --> 00:54:44,847 and that's the dangerous part. 1450 00:54:44,849 --> 00:54:47,516 More scientists learn about obesity, 1451 00:54:47,518 --> 00:54:49,418 more I learn about obesity, 1452 00:54:49,420 --> 00:54:51,453 more I learn what I don't know 1453 00:54:51,455 --> 00:54:54,456 and what we need to find out. 1454 00:54:54,458 --> 00:54:58,093 The danger comes from simplifying the issue 1455 00:54:58,095 --> 00:55:00,663 considering this complex disease 1456 00:55:00,665 --> 00:55:03,632 as a simple matter of willpower. 1457 00:55:03,634 --> 00:55:05,734 And that's where the danger comes 1458 00:55:05,736 --> 00:55:08,837 about assuming so many things 1459 00:55:08,839 --> 00:55:10,873 that it is your choice 1460 00:55:10,875 --> 00:55:13,242 to become obese and it's your choice 1461 00:55:13,244 --> 00:55:14,943 that you will remain obese. 1462 00:55:14,945 --> 00:55:16,045 Sleep, you know, 1463 00:55:16,047 --> 00:55:18,414 too much sleep or too little sleep 1464 00:55:18,416 --> 00:55:21,984 is linked with obesity. 1465 00:55:21,986 --> 00:55:25,321 Environment of a baby in mother's womb, 1466 00:55:25,323 --> 00:55:26,989 in uterus, 1467 00:55:26,991 --> 00:55:28,924 is linked with obesity 1468 00:55:28,926 --> 00:55:30,659 as well as many other 1469 00:55:30,661 --> 00:55:33,429 metabolic diseases such as diabetes. 1470 00:55:33,431 --> 00:55:36,965 There are certain infections, 1471 00:55:36,967 --> 00:55:40,002 viral infections or other microbes 1472 00:55:40,004 --> 00:55:42,538 that have been linked with obesity in humans 1473 00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:44,740 and having shown to cause obesity 1474 00:55:44,742 --> 00:55:47,609 in various animal models. 1475 00:55:47,611 --> 00:55:50,179 So, the... These are numerous factors 1476 00:55:50,181 --> 00:55:51,880 that are an... What they call 1477 00:55:51,882 --> 00:55:54,683 as endocrine disruptors 1478 00:55:54,685 --> 00:55:56,418 so these are chemicals 1479 00:55:56,420 --> 00:55:58,053 in our environment. 1480 00:55:58,055 --> 00:55:59,688 And there are people 1481 00:55:59,690 --> 00:56:01,256 who are investigating 1482 00:56:01,258 --> 00:56:04,593 if those chemicals in our environment 1483 00:56:04,595 --> 00:56:06,895 are contributing to obesity. 1484 00:56:06,897 --> 00:56:09,398 So, intuitively, 1485 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,000 it sounds like it's only that and exercise, 1486 00:56:12,002 --> 00:56:13,635 but what are the other factors 1487 00:56:13,637 --> 00:56:16,638 that maybe sort of superimposed 1488 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,575 on that diet and that activity 1489 00:56:19,577 --> 00:56:22,444 or that hunger and that satiety? 1490 00:56:22,446 --> 00:56:24,313 And that could be many. 1491 00:56:24,315 --> 00:56:25,381 Chemicals? 1492 00:56:25,383 --> 00:56:26,448 Microbes? 1493 00:56:26,450 --> 00:56:27,516 Infections? 1494 00:56:27,518 --> 00:56:28,817 Viruses? 1495 00:56:28,819 --> 00:56:31,019 If you find that hard to believe, 1496 00:56:31,021 --> 00:56:33,422 hold on to your seats. 1497 00:56:33,424 --> 00:56:34,590 Look at this data 1498 00:56:34,592 --> 00:56:36,558 from the center for disease control 1499 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,928 showing what an outbreak of flu looks like. 1500 00:56:39,930 --> 00:56:41,864 As a contagious virus, 1501 00:56:41,866 --> 00:56:44,533 notice how it moves and spreads 1502 00:56:44,535 --> 00:56:46,235 exactly as we would expect 1503 00:56:46,237 --> 00:56:49,204 a contagion to do. 1504 00:56:49,206 --> 00:56:52,341 Now, here's a map showing asthma. 1505 00:56:52,343 --> 00:56:53,909 As a non-contagion, 1506 00:56:53,911 --> 00:56:57,012 there is no pattern whatsoever to its growth. 1507 00:56:57,014 --> 00:56:59,348 It appears random. 1508 00:57:00,483 --> 00:57:01,950 Now look at this data 1509 00:57:01,952 --> 00:57:04,887 also from the CDC. 1510 00:57:04,889 --> 00:57:08,791 This is the spread of obesity. 1511 00:57:08,793 --> 00:57:11,860 It spreads exactly like a contagion. 1512 00:57:11,862 --> 00:57:13,829 It acts like a virus. 1513 00:57:13,831 --> 00:57:16,298 It moves. 1514 00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:19,535 If obesity is only about an individual's diet 1515 00:57:19,537 --> 00:57:21,136 and exercise, 1516 00:57:21,138 --> 00:57:24,006 how do we explain this? 1517 00:57:24,008 --> 00:57:26,008 The world health organization 1518 00:57:26,010 --> 00:57:28,577 has declared that we, 1519 00:57:28,579 --> 00:57:29,878 as in the world, 1520 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,014 is in the middle of a global 1521 00:57:32,016 --> 00:57:34,550 obesity epidemic. 1522 00:57:34,552 --> 00:57:37,386 Every single country is experiencing 1523 00:57:37,388 --> 00:57:40,055 increase in prevalence of obesity, 1524 00:57:40,057 --> 00:57:43,091 and this phenomena is observed 1525 00:57:43,093 --> 00:57:46,061 only for the past few years. 1526 00:57:46,063 --> 00:57:47,296 What's going on? 1527 00:57:47,298 --> 00:57:49,064 Every population is getting heavier 1528 00:57:49,066 --> 00:57:50,899 in the United States, 1529 00:57:50,901 --> 00:57:52,334 to some extent Canada, 1530 00:57:52,336 --> 00:57:54,970 - Britain definitely, Australia. - Worldwide, 1531 00:57:54,972 --> 00:57:57,072 about twenty-two million children 1532 00:57:57,074 --> 00:57:58,774 under the age of five 1533 00:57:58,776 --> 00:58:01,610 - are estimated to be overweight. - Now one in five people 1534 00:58:01,612 --> 00:58:03,712 are overweight or obese in China. 1535 00:58:03,714 --> 00:58:06,882 - More than 250 million people... - Mexico has overtaken 1536 00:58:06,884 --> 00:58:08,083 the United States 1537 00:58:08,085 --> 00:58:09,885 in levels of adult obesity 1538 00:58:09,887 --> 00:58:12,221 according to a recent united nations report. 1539 00:58:12,223 --> 00:58:14,323 There have been various theories offered 1540 00:58:14,325 --> 00:58:17,259 why we're having increase in obesity, 1541 00:58:17,261 --> 00:58:19,695 prevalence all over the world, 1542 00:58:19,697 --> 00:58:22,331 but not a single theory 1543 00:58:22,333 --> 00:58:24,399 explains situation 1544 00:58:24,401 --> 00:58:26,668 in every country. 1545 00:58:26,670 --> 00:58:30,172 We have been focused on obesity in humans, 1546 00:58:30,174 --> 00:58:31,740 but it has also been noticed 1547 00:58:31,742 --> 00:58:33,442 that while we're doing that 1548 00:58:33,444 --> 00:58:35,844 in past 20 years or so, 1549 00:58:35,846 --> 00:58:38,247 animals have been increasing 1550 00:58:38,249 --> 00:58:39,648 their weight as well 1551 00:58:39,650 --> 00:58:41,517 and we don't know the reason. 1552 00:58:41,519 --> 00:58:43,452 But it has been seen 1553 00:58:43,454 --> 00:58:45,754 that companies 1554 00:58:45,756 --> 00:58:47,089 that supply... A certain company 1555 00:58:47,091 --> 00:58:49,591 that supply animals for research, 1556 00:58:49,593 --> 00:58:52,661 they have animals in very controlled environment, 1557 00:58:52,663 --> 00:58:54,630 and those animals 1558 00:58:54,632 --> 00:58:57,399 have also gained weight. 1559 00:58:57,401 --> 00:58:59,768 When we are talking about obesity, 1560 00:58:59,770 --> 00:59:01,803 it's not only in the United States, 1561 00:59:01,805 --> 00:59:04,172 it's many countries in the world. 1562 00:59:04,174 --> 00:59:06,074 And, no, it's not only humans, 1563 00:59:06,076 --> 00:59:08,744 it's even animals seem to be gaining 1564 00:59:08,746 --> 00:59:12,147 more weight in the recent past, 1565 00:59:12,149 --> 00:59:14,383 and what would be a satisfactory, 1566 00:59:14,385 --> 00:59:16,051 like, explanation for that? 1567 00:59:16,053 --> 00:59:18,387 I don't know. 1568 00:59:24,427 --> 00:59:28,030 It's 1569 00:59:28,032 --> 00:59:29,364 are in the building. 1570 00:59:29,366 --> 00:59:31,266 It's been seven months and I'm calling 1571 00:59:31,268 --> 00:59:34,102 senator Kearney back to schedule an interview, 1572 00:59:34,104 --> 00:59:35,938 and they told me they'll email me, 1573 00:59:35,940 --> 00:59:37,606 and then surprise, surprise, 1574 00:59:37,608 --> 00:59:40,776 they never emailed me back. So, I'm calling again 1575 00:59:40,778 --> 00:59:42,411 - to see if it's impossible. - You... it's not an issue. 1576 00:59:42,413 --> 00:59:43,879 No, no, no, it's not an issue of gaining 1577 00:59:43,881 --> 00:59:45,147 additional information from you. 1578 00:59:45,149 --> 00:59:46,381 It's an issue of creating a paper trail. 1579 00:59:46,383 --> 00:59:47,516 - Right. Um... - One thing we do 1580 00:59:47,518 --> 00:59:49,685 is... I'm sorry? 1581 00:59:49,687 --> 00:59:51,820 Is there... Is it possible for today 1582 00:59:51,822 --> 00:59:54,456 to pick a date 1583 00:59:54,458 --> 00:59:55,557 or are you guys busy? 1584 00:59:55,559 --> 00:59:57,492 No, like it's over... 1585 00:59:57,494 --> 00:59:58,727 Yeah, I actually have a meeting 1586 00:59:58,729 --> 01:00:00,262 in six minutes and... 1587 01:00:00,264 --> 01:00:01,630 - Okay. - If you can email it 1588 01:00:01,632 --> 01:00:03,365 to me then from you. It's an issue of creating 1589 01:00:03,367 --> 01:00:05,467 a paper trail in a way that we do in... 1590 01:00:05,469 --> 01:00:06,969 Can, um, we can pick a date 1591 01:00:06,971 --> 01:00:10,205 in six minutes, 1592 01:00:10,207 --> 01:00:11,707 is that all right? 1593 01:00:11,709 --> 01:00:13,075 Bailey, no. 1594 01:00:13,077 --> 01:00:15,110 You need to email me, Bailey. I mean, I don't know 1595 01:00:15,112 --> 01:00:16,678 what's the deal. Like, if I call, 1596 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,348 I can't schedule, email can't schedule. 1597 01:00:19,350 --> 01:00:21,183 She tried to blame it on me like it was my fault, 1598 01:00:21,185 --> 01:00:24,219 that I'm not emailing the questions, 1599 01:00:24,221 --> 01:00:26,888 or maybe I'm not calling, I'm not... 1600 01:00:26,890 --> 01:00:28,624 Working as hard as I should 1601 01:00:28,626 --> 01:00:30,525 for this interview. 1602 01:00:30,527 --> 01:00:32,327 I actually have emailed lots of times 1603 01:00:32,329 --> 01:00:34,663 and nobody's gotten back with me. 1604 01:00:34,665 --> 01:00:36,798 I've called like six times, 1605 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,134 I've emailed, 1606 01:00:39,136 --> 01:00:41,670 more than six times. I don't get it, 1607 01:00:41,672 --> 01:00:43,105 like, why would you be rude to me? 1608 01:00:43,107 --> 01:00:45,107 I'm not being rude, I'm just being... 1609 01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:46,975 I'm determined. 1610 01:00:46,977 --> 01:00:48,343 There's nothing wrong with that. 1611 01:00:48,345 --> 01:00:50,545 In here and send it to me. 1612 01:00:50,547 --> 01:00:51,880 I'll go over it with the senator 1613 01:00:51,882 --> 01:00:54,216 and I'll be happy to get back. How far will I go? 1614 01:00:54,218 --> 01:00:57,853 I think I'll... 1615 01:00:57,855 --> 01:00:59,721 I think I've gone far enough. 1616 01:00:59,723 --> 01:01:01,089 It's been seven months, 1617 01:01:01,091 --> 01:01:02,424 why not seven more months? 1618 01:01:02,426 --> 01:01:04,092 How about a year? 1619 01:01:05,662 --> 01:01:07,629 And they, like, make walls for me. 1620 01:01:07,631 --> 01:01:08,830 The walls treated me bad 1621 01:01:08,832 --> 01:01:11,400 and they treat me and my friends bad 1622 01:01:11,402 --> 01:01:12,801 and now they're treating me bad 1623 01:01:12,803 --> 01:01:14,703 personally on the phone. 1624 01:01:18,474 --> 01:01:20,442 I don't know. I didn't know about... 1625 01:01:20,444 --> 01:01:21,510 I didn't know that our government 1626 01:01:21,512 --> 01:01:22,878 was like this. 1627 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,013 I guess this is, kind of, like a learning experience, 1628 01:01:25,015 --> 01:01:27,516 but I will get his interview. 1629 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,654 You know, who gets to speak 1630 01:01:32,656 --> 01:01:35,490 and who gets spoken for in our society 1631 01:01:35,492 --> 01:01:36,992 is an issue of power. 1632 01:01:36,994 --> 01:01:38,860 If I had a message to give 1633 01:01:38,862 --> 01:01:40,262 to young women, 1634 01:01:40,264 --> 01:01:42,197 to young people in general, 1635 01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:44,733 I would say nobody can give you your voice. 1636 01:01:44,735 --> 01:01:47,035 You have to claim your voice. 1637 01:01:49,473 --> 01:01:51,306 And you have to speak, 1638 01:01:51,308 --> 01:01:52,708 and if they don't hear you, 1639 01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:53,775 you have to speak, 1640 01:01:53,777 --> 01:01:56,344 and speak, and speak again. 1641 01:01:56,346 --> 01:01:58,814 If they're not willing to listen, 1642 01:01:58,816 --> 01:02:02,017 you have to say it again and knock on a different door. 1643 01:02:06,689 --> 01:02:08,090 Hi. 1644 01:02:08,092 --> 01:02:10,058 Do you know where the senate session is gonna be? 1645 01:02:10,060 --> 01:02:11,760 Yeah. Upstairs. 1646 01:02:11,762 --> 01:02:13,328 Okay, cool. Thank you. 1647 01:02:13,330 --> 01:02:15,297 If they're still not willing to hear, 1648 01:02:15,299 --> 01:02:17,332 well then maybe they need to move over 1649 01:02:17,334 --> 01:02:19,267 so that those banded together young people 1650 01:02:19,269 --> 01:02:22,571 can make the change that's needed themselves. 1651 01:02:32,148 --> 01:02:34,182 This place is huge. 1652 01:02:34,184 --> 01:02:36,017 I don't know where I'm going. 1653 01:02:45,729 --> 01:02:47,429 Hi. Hi. Do you know 1654 01:02:47,431 --> 01:02:49,865 if senator Kearney is gonna be in here 1655 01:02:49,867 --> 01:02:51,199 for the hearing? Senator who? 1656 01:02:51,201 --> 01:02:52,367 Kearney. I don't know. 1657 01:02:52,369 --> 01:02:53,502 Oh, okay. I don't know. 1658 01:02:53,504 --> 01:02:54,669 Okay. That's fine. I'm not sure, honestly. 1659 01:02:54,671 --> 01:02:55,771 Okay. Thank you. 1660 01:02:55,773 --> 01:02:57,806 Yeah, I recognize that guy over there. 1661 01:02:57,808 --> 01:02:59,207 He was one of the people at the hearing 1662 01:02:59,209 --> 01:03:00,809 who spoke out against... 1663 01:03:00,811 --> 01:03:02,444 Or for the waver and he explained 1664 01:03:02,446 --> 01:03:04,980 that and he said that to pretty much lie 1665 01:03:04,982 --> 01:03:06,581 if it's not a financial burden 1666 01:03:06,583 --> 01:03:10,218 to put down for the waver. 1667 01:03:10,220 --> 01:03:12,387 So he's one of the makers. 1668 01:03:12,389 --> 01:03:14,623 Hi. I watched the hearing... 1669 01:03:14,625 --> 01:03:16,458 I said I'm doing this project, 1670 01:03:16,460 --> 01:03:17,859 on childhood obesity 1671 01:03:17,861 --> 01:03:20,862 and I heard that he spoke out 1672 01:03:20,864 --> 01:03:23,165 at this during the bill couple of years ago 1673 01:03:23,167 --> 01:03:25,767 and I'd like to get his perspective on it. 1674 01:03:25,769 --> 01:03:27,402 And he was like, "oh, sure, yeah, 1675 01:03:27,404 --> 01:03:28,470 we can do that." 1676 01:03:28,472 --> 01:03:29,938 And then turned around. 1677 01:03:29,940 --> 01:03:32,040 He didn't seem like he wanted to talk right now. 1678 01:03:32,042 --> 01:03:33,375 It's kind of awkward. I stayed in there 1679 01:03:33,377 --> 01:03:34,576 for a little bit, like, 1680 01:03:34,578 --> 01:03:36,745 "I guess this conversation is over." 1681 01:03:36,747 --> 01:03:38,780 I was just like, "um, don't get up. 1682 01:03:38,782 --> 01:03:40,081 I can see myself out." 1683 01:03:45,321 --> 01:03:46,421 Six. Okay. Upstairs? 1684 01:03:46,423 --> 01:03:48,356 Ground floor and 1685 01:03:48,358 --> 01:03:50,792 okay. Cool. 1686 01:03:52,528 --> 01:03:54,262 Six. 1687 01:03:58,568 --> 01:03:59,901 Here we are. 1688 01:03:59,903 --> 01:04:02,504 Senator Kearney's office. 1689 01:04:02,506 --> 01:04:05,073 I can't believe it. 1690 01:04:05,075 --> 01:04:07,742 Senator, minority leader. 1691 01:04:08,744 --> 01:04:11,513 Let's get the interview. 1692 01:04:39,942 --> 01:04:41,910 Hi. Mr. senator. 1693 01:05:05,835 --> 01:05:07,669 I got the interview. We're gonna schedule. 1694 01:05:07,671 --> 01:05:10,305 I'm gonna scoop out some areas in place. 1695 01:05:10,307 --> 01:05:11,606 They're really nice. 1696 01:05:11,608 --> 01:05:13,008 And, oh, yeah, that's not all. 1697 01:05:13,010 --> 01:05:15,343 I met with senator Kearney, he was right there. 1698 01:05:15,345 --> 01:05:18,246 He just kind of came in and then I introduced myself 1699 01:05:18,248 --> 01:05:20,148 and I kind of was surprised. 1700 01:05:20,150 --> 01:05:21,216 They're gonna email me back 1701 01:05:21,218 --> 01:05:22,684 and we'll pick the location 1702 01:05:22,686 --> 01:05:24,719 and we're gonna pick a date, 1703 01:05:24,721 --> 01:05:27,422 so I'm gonna get the interview. 1704 01:06:02,925 --> 01:06:05,260 Hi, Bailey. How are you? Very good. 1705 01:06:05,262 --> 01:06:07,329 Hi. Yeah, tell me what I should do. 1706 01:06:07,331 --> 01:06:09,331 Okay. Would you mind sitting there? 1707 01:06:09,333 --> 01:06:10,732 I'll sit wherever you tell me. 1708 01:06:10,734 --> 01:06:12,934 Okay. Cool. 1709 01:06:15,972 --> 01:06:18,273 Okay. Is this all good? 1710 01:06:18,275 --> 01:06:20,809 And, like, I watched the hearings and stuff 1711 01:06:20,811 --> 01:06:22,177 and so, yeah. Yeah. Oh, you did? 1712 01:06:22,179 --> 01:06:23,812 They're online. Oh. 1713 01:06:23,814 --> 01:06:25,380 And so... yeah, so I became, 1714 01:06:25,382 --> 01:06:27,382 like, very knowledgeable about all of that. 1715 01:06:28,517 --> 01:06:29,884 We have limited time. I'm gonna, kind of, 1716 01:06:29,886 --> 01:06:32,587 skip the first part. 1717 01:06:32,589 --> 01:06:35,290 Do you still recommend that schools continue to do 1718 01:06:35,292 --> 01:06:37,025 BMI tests and send out letters 1719 01:06:37,027 --> 01:06:38,994 to kids who are overweight? 1720 01:06:38,996 --> 01:06:41,696 Yes, I think BMI testing is very important 1721 01:06:41,698 --> 01:06:44,532 and the way that it was designed 1722 01:06:44,534 --> 01:06:47,068 was... schools wouldn't report 1723 01:06:47,070 --> 01:06:50,305 by school districts or by, um, 1724 01:06:50,307 --> 01:06:53,174 or by individual schools, they will report by county. 1725 01:06:53,176 --> 01:06:55,877 And so that way, we could get the data, 1726 01:06:55,879 --> 01:06:57,512 the state could have that information 1727 01:06:57,514 --> 01:07:00,382 and we could see if over time, 1728 01:07:00,384 --> 01:07:01,483 the things that we're doing, 1729 01:07:01,485 --> 01:07:02,550 the steps that we're taking 1730 01:07:02,552 --> 01:07:05,453 like incorporating gym class, 1731 01:07:05,455 --> 01:07:08,723 reducing the availability of sugary drinks, 1732 01:07:08,725 --> 01:07:11,760 including healthy food during lunchtime, 1733 01:07:11,762 --> 01:07:15,163 if that's working, and if Ohio's children's BMI 1734 01:07:15,165 --> 01:07:16,965 is going down. 1735 01:07:16,967 --> 01:07:18,433 So I still support it. 1736 01:07:18,435 --> 01:07:20,502 Once you find out some health information 1737 01:07:20,504 --> 01:07:23,405 about a student that their BMI is elevated 1738 01:07:23,407 --> 01:07:26,174 or above the acceptable range, 1739 01:07:26,176 --> 01:07:29,344 we felt it was a responsible thing to do 1740 01:07:29,346 --> 01:07:30,945 to inform the parent 1741 01:07:30,947 --> 01:07:33,181 and let the parent make the decision. 1742 01:07:33,183 --> 01:07:34,949 Are you saying, like, that parents, 1743 01:07:34,951 --> 01:07:37,552 like, they don't know that their child is overweight? 1744 01:07:37,554 --> 01:07:38,820 Well, they may not know 1745 01:07:38,822 --> 01:07:40,822 that their child is overweight 1746 01:07:40,824 --> 01:07:43,324 compared to certain statistics. 1747 01:07:43,326 --> 01:07:45,660 So for instance, you might look at someone 1748 01:07:45,662 --> 01:07:46,795 and look at your child and think, 1749 01:07:46,797 --> 01:07:48,663 "oh, my child is perfectly healthy," 1750 01:07:48,665 --> 01:07:49,864 and not realize that, 1751 01:07:49,866 --> 01:07:51,699 well, there's certain health risks 1752 01:07:51,701 --> 01:07:52,901 that may be associated 1753 01:07:52,903 --> 01:07:55,737 with their current weight or body. 1754 01:07:55,739 --> 01:07:58,173 So it's just to inform them 1755 01:07:58,175 --> 01:07:59,307 about it. Okay. 1756 01:07:59,309 --> 01:08:02,977 And like, you know, like kids go to doctors, 1757 01:08:02,979 --> 01:08:05,547 are you saying that, like, the doctors 1758 01:08:05,549 --> 01:08:08,049 don't know that they're overweight? 1759 01:08:08,051 --> 01:08:09,818 Well, doctors may know 1760 01:08:09,820 --> 01:08:11,653 but doctors may not inform them 1761 01:08:11,655 --> 01:08:14,055 that the BMI is above 1762 01:08:14,057 --> 01:08:15,290 an acceptable range 1763 01:08:15,292 --> 01:08:17,258 or that the child is overweight 1764 01:08:17,260 --> 01:08:18,426 and what to do about it. 1765 01:08:18,428 --> 01:08:20,328 I know that when I take my children 1766 01:08:20,330 --> 01:08:22,197 to the pediatrician, 1767 01:08:22,199 --> 01:08:23,932 the pediatrician takes their weight, 1768 01:08:23,934 --> 01:08:25,633 writes it down on a piece of paper, 1769 01:08:25,635 --> 01:08:27,735 and that's the last you hear about it. 1770 01:08:27,737 --> 01:08:29,137 Oh, yeah. So they never talk 1771 01:08:29,139 --> 01:08:31,973 about the weight, um... 1772 01:08:31,975 --> 01:08:34,709 And my school did BMI testing on us. 1773 01:08:34,711 --> 01:08:36,211 Lots of kids got these letters 1774 01:08:36,213 --> 01:08:37,979 including my friend, Maddie. 1775 01:08:37,981 --> 01:08:39,247 Uh-hmm. 1776 01:08:39,249 --> 01:08:42,684 This is the letter she received. 1777 01:08:42,686 --> 01:08:46,054 Here. Oh, okay. 1778 01:08:46,056 --> 01:08:47,722 I take it Maddie didn't like this letter. 1779 01:08:47,724 --> 01:08:49,057 No. 1780 01:08:50,493 --> 01:08:53,094 Yeah, she got this letter in her report card. 1781 01:08:53,096 --> 01:08:54,496 She was so excite to see her grades. 1782 01:08:54,498 --> 01:08:56,197 She's an a student. 1783 01:08:56,199 --> 01:08:58,700 And she see... She pulls out the letter, 1784 01:08:58,702 --> 01:09:00,435 as frustrated as she was already, 1785 01:09:00,437 --> 01:09:01,936 she just ripped it up 1786 01:09:01,938 --> 01:09:03,638 and threw it in the trash can. 1787 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,306 And her mom found it 1788 01:09:05,308 --> 01:09:07,375 and taped it together 1789 01:09:07,377 --> 01:09:10,311 and almost made her go into depression 1790 01:09:10,313 --> 01:09:13,548 and she... it ruined her entire summer. 1791 01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:16,184 It was pretty hard for her. 1792 01:09:16,186 --> 01:09:19,521 Okay. So, she didn't like 1793 01:09:19,523 --> 01:09:21,656 getting the letter at all. 1794 01:09:21,658 --> 01:09:24,092 No, she was already aware 1795 01:09:24,094 --> 01:09:27,495 and this did nothing to help her. 1796 01:09:27,497 --> 01:09:29,531 Hmm. Well, I'm sorry 1797 01:09:29,533 --> 01:09:31,232 about your friend, Maddie. Yes. 1798 01:09:31,234 --> 01:09:33,067 And it seems like it was very disturbing 1799 01:09:33,069 --> 01:09:35,503 by, um, by the letter 1800 01:09:35,505 --> 01:09:38,039 but I mean, hmm, 1801 01:09:38,041 --> 01:09:39,140 some of the... Some of the things 1802 01:09:39,142 --> 01:09:41,276 that the letter says is, 1803 01:09:41,278 --> 01:09:42,977 um, well, 1804 01:09:42,979 --> 01:09:44,479 I can't read all of it because, you know, 1805 01:09:44,481 --> 01:09:46,548 part of it is missing. Yeah, it says not go on a diet 1806 01:09:46,550 --> 01:09:47,916 and to see her doctor. Uh-hmm. 1807 01:09:47,918 --> 01:09:50,318 But other than that, there's nothing else 1808 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,154 that is helping her 1809 01:09:53,156 --> 01:09:55,557 like an educational tool besides saying, 1810 01:09:55,559 --> 01:09:56,691 "you're high in your weight," 1811 01:09:56,693 --> 01:09:58,793 like it even highlights it there. 1812 01:09:58,795 --> 01:10:00,562 Yeah, right. So, her mom 1813 01:10:00,564 --> 01:10:01,996 was pretty upset by it 1814 01:10:01,998 --> 01:10:03,398 and how, kind of... Oh, she was? 1815 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,465 Yeah. Uh-hmm. 1816 01:10:04,467 --> 01:10:06,434 She... they're very aware. 1817 01:10:06,436 --> 01:10:07,769 And actually, her mom, 1818 01:10:07,771 --> 01:10:09,070 she knows a lot about health 1819 01:10:09,072 --> 01:10:11,139 and they have a garden in their backyard. 1820 01:10:11,141 --> 01:10:13,441 Can you, like, understand how they might feel 1821 01:10:13,443 --> 01:10:15,677 and how these letters might be going out 1822 01:10:15,679 --> 01:10:19,447 to kids who aren't necessarily healthy 1823 01:10:19,449 --> 01:10:22,283 and actually shouldn't be getting the letter? 1824 01:10:22,285 --> 01:10:24,419 No, I think everyone should get the letter 1825 01:10:24,421 --> 01:10:27,055 if they went through the BMI test, 1826 01:10:27,057 --> 01:10:29,757 because it just says whether you're above, 1827 01:10:29,759 --> 01:10:30,959 below, or in the... 1828 01:10:30,961 --> 01:10:32,227 In the acceptable range, 1829 01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:33,661 that's all it says. 1830 01:10:33,663 --> 01:10:36,164 And what you do with it 1831 01:10:36,166 --> 01:10:37,832 or how you react to it is something... 1832 01:10:37,834 --> 01:10:39,067 Is something different. 1833 01:10:39,069 --> 01:10:41,469 I can perfectly understand how some people 1834 01:10:41,471 --> 01:10:43,171 would be offended by the... 1835 01:10:43,173 --> 01:10:44,672 By the letter, but overall, 1836 01:10:44,674 --> 01:10:46,507 I think that the goal of what we're trying 1837 01:10:46,509 --> 01:10:48,243 to accomplish through the bill 1838 01:10:48,245 --> 01:10:51,913 and the implementation of the law, 1839 01:10:51,915 --> 01:10:53,648 are worthwhile goals. 1840 01:10:53,650 --> 01:10:55,116 I guess just Maddie 1841 01:10:55,118 --> 01:10:56,784 and kids who are like Maddie 1842 01:10:56,786 --> 01:10:59,354 are just, kind of, collateral damage 1843 01:10:59,356 --> 01:11:01,089 in this study? 1844 01:11:01,091 --> 01:11:04,626 Well, I wouldn't call them collateral damage, 1845 01:11:04,628 --> 01:11:05,927 I mean, I'm very sorry 1846 01:11:05,929 --> 01:11:08,396 that Maddie feels this way 1847 01:11:08,398 --> 01:11:10,198 but I think that there are some good things 1848 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,333 that the bill is trying to accomplish. 1849 01:11:12,335 --> 01:11:13,534 Perhaps the execution 1850 01:11:13,536 --> 01:11:15,503 wasn't the way that we envisioned 1851 01:11:15,505 --> 01:11:17,839 but, certainly, I wouldn't... 1852 01:11:17,841 --> 01:11:19,874 I wouldn't use that phrase as collateral damage. 1853 01:11:19,876 --> 01:11:21,142 Okay. I don't... no, 1854 01:11:21,144 --> 01:11:22,277 I don't think of them that way. 1855 01:11:22,279 --> 01:11:23,778 Okay. So you just wish 1856 01:11:23,780 --> 01:11:25,313 that never happened to her 1857 01:11:25,315 --> 01:11:26,447 and people who are like her? 1858 01:11:26,449 --> 01:11:28,983 Well, I wish her reaction weren't the... 1859 01:11:28,985 --> 01:11:31,119 Weren't the way that it happened 1860 01:11:31,121 --> 01:11:32,387 - and I wish that... - Wow, 1861 01:11:32,389 --> 01:11:35,890 the senator's constant blaming is unbearable. 1862 01:11:35,892 --> 01:11:37,492 Parents are clueless. 1863 01:11:37,494 --> 01:11:39,761 Doctors are incompetent. 1864 01:11:39,763 --> 01:11:41,329 And if you're upset about being profiled 1865 01:11:41,331 --> 01:11:42,597 and bullied, 1866 01:11:42,599 --> 01:11:45,733 you're just reacting the wrong way. 1867 01:11:45,735 --> 01:11:47,902 But of everything that was said, 1868 01:11:47,904 --> 01:11:50,338 this was the most bizarre. 1869 01:11:51,573 --> 01:11:52,907 Yeah, we should find out 1870 01:11:52,909 --> 01:11:56,010 why they're sending those letters out. 1871 01:11:56,012 --> 01:11:57,612 Wait, what? Why are they sending 1872 01:11:57,614 --> 01:11:59,113 these letters out? 1873 01:11:59,115 --> 01:12:01,316 You've written a law forcing them to. 1874 01:12:02,418 --> 01:12:03,885 That's it. 1875 01:12:03,887 --> 01:12:06,721 It's time to do what I came here for. 1876 01:12:07,690 --> 01:12:10,124 I'm gonna get something. 1877 01:12:18,267 --> 01:12:21,035 So, just like you did, 1878 01:12:21,037 --> 01:12:23,371 I'm doing my own BMI study 1879 01:12:23,373 --> 01:12:24,806 with my documentary. 1880 01:12:24,808 --> 01:12:26,341 Uh-hmm. 1881 01:12:26,343 --> 01:12:27,508 If you wouldn't mind, would you please step 1882 01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:29,777 on the scale? Why? 1883 01:12:29,779 --> 01:12:33,681 Because I'm doing my own private BMI test. 1884 01:12:33,683 --> 01:12:34,916 I don't understand. I mean, with everybody 1885 01:12:34,918 --> 01:12:35,983 I interview, I ask them 1886 01:12:35,985 --> 01:12:37,719 if they would like to get on the scale, 1887 01:12:37,721 --> 01:12:38,786 because kids at our school, 1888 01:12:38,788 --> 01:12:39,821 they had to get on the scale 1889 01:12:39,823 --> 01:12:41,989 to be weighed for BMI test. 1890 01:12:41,991 --> 01:12:44,158 Okay. I'm willing to do it 1891 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:45,626 but I think it was only fair 1892 01:12:45,628 --> 01:12:47,228 to let me know that you're gonna do 1893 01:12:47,230 --> 01:12:49,130 stuff like that beforehand, 1894 01:12:49,132 --> 01:12:51,299 but okay, I mean I'll do BMI. 1895 01:12:51,301 --> 01:12:52,867 Okay. Do you want me to step on it 1896 01:12:52,869 --> 01:12:54,836 with my shoes or without my shoes? 1897 01:12:54,838 --> 01:12:57,171 Oh, you can... you can take off your shoes if you want. 1898 01:12:57,173 --> 01:12:58,439 Okay. I don't wanna mess up your scale 1899 01:12:58,441 --> 01:12:59,707 so I'm asking you for that reason. 1900 01:12:59,709 --> 01:13:01,275 Yeah, it'll be okay. Okay. 1901 01:13:17,459 --> 01:13:18,926 We'll weigh... 1902 01:13:18,928 --> 01:13:20,261 The entire documentary? 1903 01:13:20,263 --> 01:13:21,763 The entire documentary. 1904 01:13:21,765 --> 01:13:24,899 The entire documentary is about... 1905 01:13:24,901 --> 01:13:26,467 Childhood obesity, 1906 01:13:26,469 --> 01:13:29,470 but one part of it is about 1907 01:13:29,472 --> 01:13:31,739 and how 1908 01:13:31,741 --> 01:13:34,108 I don't know... I don't know what that means. 1909 01:13:34,110 --> 01:13:36,911 Oh, a hundred and ninety-three. 1910 01:13:36,913 --> 01:13:37,945 You mean in terms of my weight? 1911 01:13:37,947 --> 01:13:40,047 Yeah. No. 1912 01:13:40,049 --> 01:13:42,316 What? Did he say, no? 1913 01:13:42,318 --> 01:13:44,318 I guess we've all been there at some point. 1914 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,188 Looking down at that number in disbelief, 1915 01:13:47,190 --> 01:13:50,291 telling the scales, "no." 1916 01:13:50,293 --> 01:13:51,659 After spending an awkward moment 1917 01:13:51,661 --> 01:13:53,961 debating whether scales are more accurate 1918 01:13:53,963 --> 01:13:55,630 on carpet or tile, 1919 01:13:55,632 --> 01:13:58,533 the senator finally agreed to his weight. 1920 01:13:58,535 --> 01:14:00,067 We can just use this number. 1921 01:14:00,069 --> 01:14:01,903 It's 19... it says 193. 1922 01:14:01,905 --> 01:14:04,539 Yeah. I'm 72 inches. 1923 01:14:06,909 --> 01:14:08,209 Thank you for doing that. 1924 01:14:08,211 --> 01:14:10,077 Okay. Well, I don't have a problem. 1925 01:14:10,079 --> 01:14:11,712 I mean... Just some people... 1926 01:14:11,714 --> 01:14:13,981 If you wanna know my BMI, I don't... 1927 01:14:13,983 --> 01:14:15,450 I don't mind that. Some people feel like 1928 01:14:15,452 --> 01:14:18,152 being weighed is uncomfortable 1929 01:14:18,154 --> 01:14:19,287 and they only think it's for them 1930 01:14:19,289 --> 01:14:21,456 and their doctor. 1931 01:14:23,425 --> 01:14:24,992 Okay, well... Can you understand how... 1932 01:14:24,994 --> 01:14:26,961 People can have... Can have that opinion. 1933 01:14:26,963 --> 01:14:28,663 Sure. Yeah. Do you feel like I, 1934 01:14:28,665 --> 01:14:30,465 kind of, crossed my boundaries 1935 01:14:30,467 --> 01:14:33,568 asking you to do something personal 1936 01:14:33,570 --> 01:14:36,904 that's between you and your doctor? 1937 01:14:36,906 --> 01:14:38,439 No, this is what I think. 1938 01:14:38,441 --> 01:14:40,741 If you had told me beforehand, 1939 01:14:40,743 --> 01:14:42,276 I would have been more than happy 1940 01:14:42,278 --> 01:14:44,645 to agree to do that. 1941 01:14:46,114 --> 01:14:48,282 So, you know, 1942 01:14:48,284 --> 01:14:49,884 if you wanna know my BMI, 1943 01:14:49,886 --> 01:14:52,453 it's not really quite frankly that personal. 1944 01:14:52,455 --> 01:14:54,021 - I don't really mind it. - Yeah. 1945 01:14:54,023 --> 01:14:55,990 Or if somebody wants to know my weight, 1946 01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:57,825 - that's okay, too. - You seem very fit, 1947 01:14:57,827 --> 01:15:00,228 but what about, like, overweight kids, 1948 01:15:00,230 --> 01:15:02,063 can you understand how overweight kids 1949 01:15:02,065 --> 01:15:05,099 feel uncomfortable? Yes. Yes. 1950 01:15:05,101 --> 01:15:06,968 I understand. I'm empathetic to that. 1951 01:15:06,970 --> 01:15:08,636 Yeah? Okay. Certainly. 1952 01:15:18,113 --> 01:15:19,981 You can look at a person 1953 01:15:19,983 --> 01:15:22,550 and tell that person has obesity or not 1954 01:15:22,552 --> 01:15:24,752 because a person, unfortunately, 1955 01:15:24,754 --> 01:15:27,021 wears that disease on their body. 1956 01:15:27,023 --> 01:15:29,390 You don't need a special screening 1957 01:15:29,392 --> 01:15:32,226 to find that out. 1958 01:15:33,328 --> 01:15:37,098 And perhaps that makes people 1959 01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:40,134 jump to give helpful advice 1960 01:15:40,136 --> 01:15:42,103 to those who are suffering 1961 01:15:42,105 --> 01:15:44,272 from that disease, obesity. 1962 01:15:44,274 --> 01:15:46,073 But trust me, those people know that. 1963 01:15:46,075 --> 01:15:47,308 They don't... you don't need 1964 01:15:47,310 --> 01:15:49,176 to tell somebody have... 1965 01:15:49,178 --> 01:15:51,479 That they have obesity or not. 1966 01:15:51,481 --> 01:15:52,547 You may have to tell somebody 1967 01:15:52,549 --> 01:15:54,048 whether they have diabetes or not 1968 01:15:54,050 --> 01:15:55,816 or high blood pressure or not, 1969 01:15:55,818 --> 01:15:57,418 but you don't need to tell somebody 1970 01:15:57,420 --> 01:15:58,819 who has obesity or not. 1971 01:15:58,821 --> 01:16:01,489 They... that person knows that. 1972 01:16:01,491 --> 01:16:04,625 The assumption behind telling somebody 1973 01:16:04,627 --> 01:16:06,027 that you have obesity, 1974 01:16:06,029 --> 01:16:07,595 the assumption is, 1975 01:16:07,597 --> 01:16:09,497 that person is choosing 1976 01:16:09,499 --> 01:16:11,499 not to lose weight. 1977 01:16:11,501 --> 01:16:15,403 And that is a very wrong assumption. 1978 01:16:15,405 --> 01:16:17,305 So simply pointing out 1979 01:16:17,307 --> 01:16:19,540 that you have more bodyweight 1980 01:16:19,542 --> 01:16:20,875 means nothing 1981 01:16:20,877 --> 01:16:22,343 in terms of that person 1982 01:16:22,345 --> 01:16:23,945 being able to take 1983 01:16:23,947 --> 01:16:26,747 a meaningful corrective action. 1984 01:16:28,116 --> 01:16:31,252 210 divided by... 1985 01:16:31,254 --> 01:16:34,155 72 squared. Seventy-two squared. 1986 01:16:34,157 --> 01:16:37,091 That's, seven... okay. 1987 01:16:37,093 --> 01:16:39,493 So that's 28.4. 1988 01:16:40,562 --> 01:16:41,662 Okay, let's see right here. 1989 01:16:41,664 --> 01:16:44,565 That isn't... on here, 1990 01:16:44,567 --> 01:16:46,734 it's such a narrow range. 1991 01:16:46,736 --> 01:16:48,903 - Uh-hmm. - For the healthy weight. 1992 01:16:48,905 --> 01:16:50,037 Yeah, that's over... 1993 01:16:50,039 --> 01:16:52,106 So forty-four, three. 1994 01:16:52,108 --> 01:16:53,474 Yeah, that's obese. 1995 01:16:53,476 --> 01:16:55,676 Yeah. Okay. 1996 01:16:55,678 --> 01:16:58,746 200 divided by... 1997 01:16:58,748 --> 01:17:00,081 66 squared. 1998 01:17:00,083 --> 01:17:02,617 Squared 1999 01:17:02,619 --> 01:17:04,585 okay. 2000 01:17:04,587 --> 01:17:07,421 - He is overweight. - Okay. 2001 01:17:07,423 --> 01:17:09,423 Get that up there. Okay, the next one. 2002 01:17:09,425 --> 01:17:12,393 Okay, okay. Okay, here. 2003 01:17:14,329 --> 01:17:16,464 Oh, that's just shocking. 2004 01:17:16,466 --> 01:17:17,932 All these people voted for the goal 2005 01:17:17,934 --> 01:17:20,534 and most of them 2006 01:17:20,536 --> 01:17:22,503 this is interesting. Oh, my gosh. 2007 01:17:22,505 --> 01:17:24,705 Yeah. There's only three people 2008 01:17:24,707 --> 01:17:26,040 that meet it. 2009 01:17:26,042 --> 01:17:27,875 Yeah, and all these people wanted, 2010 01:17:27,877 --> 01:17:28,943 like, this bill to happen 2011 01:17:28,945 --> 01:17:31,278 and they all themselves 2012 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:32,513 are overweight or obese. 2013 01:17:32,515 --> 01:17:33,781 Like, how can you talk? 2014 01:17:33,783 --> 01:17:34,849 Yeah. And how could you bully 2015 01:17:34,851 --> 01:17:36,150 someone else and being like, 2016 01:17:36,152 --> 01:17:37,418 "you don't fit the standards?" 2017 01:17:37,420 --> 01:17:38,486 But... Yeah. 2018 01:17:38,488 --> 01:17:40,421 We're gonna... we're gonna try to change that. 2019 01:17:44,526 --> 01:17:45,993 So we're here at the state house. 2020 01:17:45,995 --> 01:17:47,361 We're delivering the fat letters 2021 01:17:47,363 --> 01:17:49,196 that we've been working on 2022 01:17:49,198 --> 01:17:50,798 to the senators who voted for the bill 2023 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,466 and it says their BMI, 2024 01:17:52,468 --> 01:17:54,168 it has the same language 2025 01:17:54,170 --> 01:17:56,137 as the letter that Maddie received. 2026 01:17:56,139 --> 01:17:58,239 And we're gonna go up there and deliver them together 2027 01:17:58,241 --> 01:17:59,907 and so just holding them 2028 01:17:59,909 --> 01:18:02,476 to the same standards just like they did to us. 2029 01:18:03,478 --> 01:18:06,447 Over there. Yeah. 2030 01:18:06,449 --> 01:18:08,516 All right. Let's go. 2031 01:18:11,853 --> 01:18:14,055 Here it is. 2032 01:18:14,057 --> 01:18:16,057 We found it. 2033 01:18:17,592 --> 01:18:20,361 Hold this. Oops. 2034 01:18:21,496 --> 01:18:23,931 All right. Are you ready? 2035 01:18:26,468 --> 01:18:29,036 All right 2036 01:18:53,562 --> 01:18:55,863 yeah, I mean, I understand that. 2037 01:19:04,339 --> 01:19:06,440 When we were walking on the hallway 2038 01:19:06,442 --> 01:19:09,543 like getting ready to, like, deliver it 2039 01:19:09,545 --> 01:19:11,545 and one of the senators walked out, 2040 01:19:11,547 --> 01:19:12,880 it just... it all hit me at once. 2041 01:19:12,882 --> 01:19:16,217 It became real and then when we, like, 2042 01:19:16,219 --> 01:19:19,420 went up to her office and we saw her nameplate, 2043 01:19:19,422 --> 01:19:21,455 I just... 2044 01:19:21,457 --> 01:19:23,557 It felt so wrong because she's a real person. 2045 01:19:23,559 --> 01:19:26,293 She wasn't just a face on the Internet. 2046 01:19:26,295 --> 01:19:28,362 I mean, she was just like me and you, 2047 01:19:28,364 --> 01:19:31,298 and I know I felt and I felt crushed 2048 01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:33,033 and horrible by myself. 2049 01:19:33,035 --> 01:19:35,002 I felt like I didn't belong anywhere. 2050 01:19:35,004 --> 01:19:36,370 And I would never 2051 01:19:36,372 --> 01:19:38,806 wanna make anyone feel that way. 2052 01:19:38,808 --> 01:19:40,541 I'm sorry that I've... like, 2053 01:19:40,543 --> 01:19:43,210 we talked about this and I was so ready to do this. 2054 01:19:43,212 --> 01:19:44,411 Yeah. I came here wanting 2055 01:19:44,413 --> 01:19:47,648 to do this and I just... 2056 01:19:47,650 --> 01:19:49,950 It just made me feel bad 2057 01:19:49,952 --> 01:19:51,986 when I received the letter. 2058 01:19:51,988 --> 01:19:54,221 I mean, I felt uncomfortable about it, too. 2059 01:19:54,223 --> 01:19:55,389 I thought it was mean 2060 01:19:55,391 --> 01:19:56,490 but I mean, then again, 2061 01:19:56,492 --> 01:19:57,825 I just had in my head holding them 2062 01:19:57,827 --> 01:19:58,893 to the same standards, 2063 01:19:58,895 --> 01:20:01,896 but I understand. 2064 01:20:01,898 --> 01:20:04,198 I'm glad you stepped up. 2065 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,734 I just couldn't go through with it. 2066 01:20:06,736 --> 01:20:08,402 I feel bad because I was like, 2067 01:20:08,404 --> 01:20:10,404 "here, I'll give it to him ." 2068 01:20:10,406 --> 01:20:12,573 Like, I was stepping up for you. 2069 01:20:12,575 --> 01:20:14,108 But then you're right, 2070 01:20:14,110 --> 01:20:15,976 it wasn't the right thing to do. 2071 01:20:15,978 --> 01:20:17,144 Well, I mean, I guess you could be 2072 01:20:17,146 --> 01:20:19,346 a good bureaucrat because, I mean... 2073 01:20:19,348 --> 01:20:20,781 Because I don't have feelings? 2074 01:20:20,783 --> 01:20:22,850 Yes, because you don't have any feelings. 2075 01:20:22,852 --> 01:20:24,218 Well, actually, hold that thought. 2076 01:20:24,220 --> 01:20:25,886 I still have the letters. 2077 01:20:25,888 --> 01:20:27,755 So when you leave, I'm going back up there 2078 01:20:27,757 --> 01:20:30,457 and I'm giving some senators some letters. 2079 01:20:30,459 --> 01:20:31,525 Oh, my gosh. You would make 2080 01:20:31,527 --> 01:20:33,727 a perfect bureaucrat. 2081 01:20:33,729 --> 01:20:35,629 When I see young people 2082 01:20:35,631 --> 01:20:37,398 using their experience, 2083 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,767 using their insight 2084 01:20:39,769 --> 01:20:41,602 to speak up 2085 01:20:41,604 --> 01:20:42,970 and speak out, 2086 01:20:42,972 --> 01:20:45,506 it's so wonderful. 2087 01:20:45,508 --> 01:20:47,308 And it does give me hope. 2088 01:20:47,310 --> 01:20:49,109 It can bring about change 2089 01:20:49,111 --> 01:20:50,377 on a personal level 2090 01:20:50,379 --> 01:20:52,379 and the other really amazing thing 2091 01:20:52,381 --> 01:20:54,148 is that it can bring about change 2092 01:20:54,150 --> 01:20:56,016 on a cultural level 2093 01:20:56,018 --> 01:20:59,553 and real measurable change. 2094 01:20:59,555 --> 01:21:01,589 It has become my... 2095 01:21:01,591 --> 01:21:03,390 Sort of my religion that I want 2096 01:21:03,392 --> 01:21:05,125 to do something to this field. 2097 01:21:05,127 --> 01:21:08,295 Now, I don't... I don't have the arrogance 2098 01:21:08,297 --> 01:21:09,864 to think I'm gonna change everything 2099 01:21:09,866 --> 01:21:13,033 and cure this global epidemic of obesity 2100 01:21:13,035 --> 01:21:14,935 that we have, 2101 01:21:14,937 --> 01:21:16,804 but I want to be able to contribute 2102 01:21:16,806 --> 01:21:20,207 to whatever extent I can 2103 01:21:20,209 --> 01:21:23,744 and that's my, passion. 2104 01:21:23,746 --> 01:21:26,413 Let's not make health 2105 01:21:26,415 --> 01:21:29,016 one more kind of measuring stick, 2106 01:21:29,018 --> 01:21:31,819 one more moral ruler 2107 01:21:31,821 --> 01:21:34,021 to beat kids on the head with. 2108 01:21:34,023 --> 01:21:35,923 Let's give them room 2109 01:21:35,925 --> 01:21:38,993 to be healthy and love themselves. 2110 01:21:38,995 --> 01:21:40,294 When you think about the understandings 2111 01:21:40,296 --> 01:21:41,595 we've come up with over the last, 2112 01:21:41,597 --> 01:21:44,231 you know, 20 years, 2113 01:21:44,233 --> 01:21:46,133 the... it's really changed 2114 01:21:46,135 --> 01:21:47,935 the way we look at the problem. 2115 01:21:47,937 --> 01:21:51,272 And I think we are starting to finally unravel, 2116 01:21:51,274 --> 01:21:53,073 many of the pieces 2117 01:21:53,075 --> 01:21:55,943 that go into 2118 01:21:55,945 --> 01:21:57,811 the obesity epidemic. 2119 01:21:57,813 --> 01:21:59,880 We need to launch 2120 01:21:59,882 --> 01:22:02,716 the direction of research and approach 2121 01:22:02,718 --> 01:22:05,986 that can effectively treat, 2122 01:22:05,988 --> 01:22:09,189 control, prevent this disease. 2123 01:22:09,191 --> 01:22:12,226 And those solutions can be at society level, 2124 01:22:12,228 --> 01:22:14,495 at community level, at individual level, 2125 01:22:14,497 --> 01:22:15,729 at genetic level. 2126 01:22:15,731 --> 01:22:18,232 So all those together eventually, 2127 01:22:18,234 --> 01:22:20,768 we will be able to 2128 01:22:20,770 --> 01:22:22,369 conquer this disease. 2129 01:23:00,176 --> 01:23:02,042 Hi, sir. Would you like to participate 2130 01:23:02,044 --> 01:23:04,445 in our free BMI test? 2131 01:23:04,447 --> 01:23:05,579 Okay. That's fine. 2132 01:23:05,581 --> 01:23:06,861 Do you think it's uncomfortable? 2133 01:23:12,788 --> 01:23:15,055 The lawmakers made us get on the scales 2134 01:23:15,057 --> 01:23:16,957 to be weighed for BMI, so we're up here to see 2135 01:23:16,959 --> 01:23:18,459 if anyone else would like to do it. 2136 01:23:18,461 --> 01:23:20,694 We won't write you a letter. 2137 01:23:27,970 --> 01:23:29,770 We're doing free BMI test today. 2138 01:23:29,772 --> 01:23:31,939 Oh, good. Totally understand. 2139 01:23:35,810 --> 01:23:37,544 You got to have a permit, okay? 2140 01:23:37,546 --> 01:23:38,779 Oh, we didn't know. Yes. 2141 01:23:38,781 --> 01:23:40,814 We thought it was public. Okay. Are we allowed 2142 01:23:40,816 --> 01:23:42,816 to just ask questions? Or I mean out here. 2143 01:23:42,818 --> 01:23:44,258 But you'll be able to film and stuff. 2144 01:23:49,325 --> 01:23:50,457 So you're doing free hugs? 2145 01:23:50,459 --> 01:23:51,525 Oh, yeah, 2146 01:23:51,527 --> 01:23:53,527 you got free BMI test? Yeah. 2147 01:24:01,569 --> 01:24:03,237 Is that on? Yeah. 2148 01:24:03,239 --> 01:24:05,839 It's always on. 2149 01:24:05,841 --> 01:24:06,874 Are we allowed to, like, do it 2150 01:24:06,876 --> 01:24:08,008 without, like, the sign, 2151 01:24:08,010 --> 01:24:09,877 you know, the sign is... No. No. 2152 01:24:09,879 --> 01:24:11,478 Not even ask questions? No, ma'am. 2153 01:24:11,480 --> 01:24:13,247 There's a free speech area right out there 2154 01:24:13,249 --> 01:24:15,115 in front of that fountain. Okay. 2155 01:24:15,117 --> 01:24:16,517 Okay? So we'll just head over there. 2156 01:24:26,928 --> 01:24:28,695 We just make sure we don't disturb anyone with the truth. 2157 01:24:28,697 --> 01:24:30,664 Would you guys like a free BMI? 2158 01:24:30,666 --> 01:24:32,966 Free BMI. No. 2159 01:24:32,968 --> 01:24:35,736 This is our only spot we're allowed to stand. 2160 01:24:41,544 --> 01:24:42,876 At this common area, 2161 01:24:42,878 --> 01:24:45,379 we're not allowed to have weapons, 2162 01:24:45,381 --> 01:24:49,249 concealed firearms, or free speech. 2163 01:24:56,358 --> 01:24:58,058 So there's a person over there 2164 01:24:58,060 --> 01:24:59,827 and we want to ask him if he would like 2165 01:24:59,829 --> 01:25:02,496 to step on the scales, but we think 2166 01:25:02,498 --> 01:25:05,399 he's outside of our free speech zone, 2167 01:25:05,401 --> 01:25:08,402 so we might get in trouble. 2168 01:25:08,404 --> 01:25:09,636 He's protected. 2169 01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,423 Hey, Maddie, is free speech our next issue?