1 00:00:50,697 --> 00:00:57,954 Visit www.Fortunebet99.cc Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 2 00:00:58,494 --> 00:01:02,096 Of course he's magical He never thinks of himself like that. 3 00:01:02,096 --> 00:01:04,920 He is right really not passionate 4 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,444 about starting a business and making money. 5 00:01:09,904 --> 00:01:14,879 There's a feeling of losing tonight at Highland Park, hometown of Aaron Swartz, 6 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:18,391 As loved say goodbye one of the brightest lights in the world. 7 00:01:18,471 --> 00:01:21,841 Freedom, open access, and computers activists mourn for their loss. 8 00:01:21,841 --> 00:01:25,069 "A amazing intellect ", if you talk to people who know him. 9 00:01:25,069 --> 00:01:29,726 He was killed by the government, and MIT betrayed all of its basic principles. 10 00:01:29,726 --> 00:01:32,976 They wanted to make an example from him, okay? 11 00:01:35,176 --> 00:01:39,053 The government has insatiable desire to control 12 00:01:39,053 --> 00:01:43,477 He has the potential to face 35 years in jail and a fine of one million dollars. 13 00:01:43,477 --> 00:01:50,019 Generates questions about the spirit of the prosecutor's office, and I will say even wrong actions. 14 00:01:50,019 --> 00:01:55,437 Did you see a particular problem? and reached a conclusion? 15 00:01:57,399 --> 00:02:01,695 Growing up, I slowly experienced this process realized that everything around me was 16 00:02:01,695 --> 00:02:06,433 People have told me that this is just a natural way. These things, what they are like, 17 00:02:06,433 --> 00:02:08,720 they are not natural at all, There are things that can be changed 18 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,824 and there are more important things wrong and must change, 19 00:02:11,824 --> 00:02:14,364 and once I realize that, really won't come back. 20 00:02:24,274 --> 00:02:28,061 Congratulations on reading time. 21 00:02:28,061 --> 00:02:33,053 The name of the book is "Paddington at the Fair". 22 00:02:33,053 --> 00:02:36,674 Well, he was born in Highland Park and grew up here. 23 00:02:36,674 --> 00:02:40,038 Aaron comes from a family of three brothers, all very bright 24 00:02:40,038 --> 00:02:44,522 "Oh, the box is upside down..." 25 00:02:44,532 --> 00:02:48,384 So we all, you know, not children behave best. 26 00:02:48,384 --> 00:02:51,682 You know, three boys run around all the time, causing problems 27 00:02:51,682 --> 00:02:54,005 "Hey, no, no! " 28 00:02:54,005 --> 00:02:55,874 - Aaron! - What? 29 00:02:55,874 --> 00:03:01,134 But I realized that Aaron learned how to learn at a very young age. 30 00:03:01,161 --> 00:03:06,441 "One two three four five six, seven, eight, nine, ten!" 31 00:03:06,471 --> 00:03:09,232 - Knock, tap! - Who is there? 32 00:03:09,232 --> 00:03:11,727 - Aaron . - Whose aaron? 33 00:03:11,727 --> 00:03:12,853 - Aaron Funnyman 34 00:03:12,853 --> 00:03:15,248 He knows what he wants, and he always wants to do it. 35 00:03:15,248 --> 00:03:17,409 He always finishes what he wants. 36 00:03:18,459 --> 00:03:21,508 Keingintahuannya tak ada habisnya. 37 00:03:21,508 --> 00:03:27,047 "Here's a small picture of what a planet is. And every planet has a symbol." 38 00:03:27,047 --> 00:03:33,097 "The symbol of Mercury, the symbol of Venus, the symbol of the Earth, Mars symbols, symbols of Jupiter. " 39 00:03:33,097 --> 00:03:37,089 One day he told Susan," Is this free? family entertainment in downtown Highland Park? " 40 00:03:37,089 --> 00:03:40,484 " Free family entertainment downtown Highland Park. " 41 00:03:40,484 --> 00:03:42,501 He was three years old at that time. 42 00:03:42,501 --> 00:03:44,642 He said," What are you talking about? " 43 00:03:44,642 --> 00:03:46,412 He said," Look, this written here in the fridge, " 44 00:03:46,412 --> 00:03:50,092 " Free family entertainment downtown Highland Park. " 45 00:03:50,092 --> 00:03:54,513 He was stunned and dumbfounded who could he read. 46 00:03:55,010 --> 00:03:59,010 This is called "My Family Seder". 47 00:03:59,755 --> 00:04:04,840 Night Seder is different from all other nights 48 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,772 I remember once, we were in < br /> University of Chicago Library. 49 00:04:08,847 --> 00:04:12,318 I pulled out a book from the shelf It was from 1900, 50 00:04:12,318 --> 00:04:16,150 and showed it to him and said, "You know, this is truly an extraordinary place." 51 00:04:16,150 --> 00:04:22,509 We are all curious kids, but Aaron really likes to learn and loves teaching. 52 00:04:22,509 --> 00:04:27,495 "And we will learn ABC backwards." 53 00:04:27,495 --> 00:04:31,385 "Z, Y, X, W, V, U, T..." 54 00:04:31,493 --> 00:04:35,290 I remember, he came home from his first Algebra class. 55 00:04:35,290 --> 00:04:38,748 He was like , "Noah, let me teach you algebra!" 56 00:04:38,748 --> 00:04:41,134 And I'm like, "What is algebra?" 57 00:04:41,134 --> 00:04:43,137 And he's always like that. 58 00:04:43,137 --> 00:04:48,618 "Now we press the click button, there! Now there is! " 59 00:04:48,618 --> 00:04:51,858 " Now the color is pink! " 60 00:04:51,858 --> 00:04:56,098 When you are around two or three years old, /> and Bob introduces it to the computer, 61 00:04:56,098 --> 00:04:59,600 Then he immediately takes off like crazy. 62 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:03,507 (baby language) 63 00:05:03,507 --> 00:05:09,237 We all have computers, but Aaron really For them, really brought to the Internet. 64 00:05:09,237 --> 00:05:12,965 - Working on the computer? - no... 65 00:05:12,965 --> 00:05:16,038 "Why... Mommy, why doesn't anyone succeed? 66 00:05:16,038 --> 00:05:18,297 He started programming from a very young age 67 00:05:18,297 --> 00:05:21,506 I remember the first program that I wrote with him was on BASIC, 68 00:05:21,506 --> 00:05:24,385 and it's a Star Wars trivia game. 69 00:05:25,875 --> 00:05:30,186 He sits with me in the basement, where is the computer, 70 00:05:30,186 --> 00:05:33,047 for hours, programming this game. 71 00:05:34,817 --> 00:05:38,511 The problem I faced with him was that there was nothing I wanted to do, 72 00:05:38,511 --> 00:05:41,553 and for him, there there was always something to do, 73 00:05:41,553 --> 00:05:44,375 always something that is programming can solve 74 00:05:47,085 --> 00:05:50,511 The way Aaron always sees it, is that programming is magic 75 00:05:50,511 --> 00:05:54,042 You can achieve these things normal humans can't. 76 00:05:54,042 --> 00:05:58,365 Aaron makes an ATM like Macintosh and like a cardboard box. 77 00:05:58,365 --> 00:06:01,838 One year for Halloween, I don't know what I want, 78 00:06:01,838 --> 00:06:06,358 and he thinks it will be very, very cool if I dress like his new favorite computer, 79 00:06:06,358 --> 00:06:09,108 the one at that time was the original iMac. 80 00:06:09,108 --> 00:06:12,824 I mean, he hates dressing up for Halloween But he likes convince others 81 00:06:12,824 --> 00:06:16,070 to dress like the thing he wants to see. 82 00:06:16,070 --> 00:06:20,395 "Mr. Aaron, stop! Guys, come on, look at the camera!" 83 00:06:20,395 --> 00:06:22,720 "Spiderman sees the camera!" 84 00:06:24,010 --> 00:06:31,365 Dia membuat website ini bernama The Info, dimana orang bisa mengisi informasi. 85 00:06:31,365 --> 00:06:34,987 I'm sure someone out there knows all about gold, gold leaf... 86 00:06:34,987 --> 00:06:38,722 Why don't they write about that on this site? And then someone else can come at the next point, 87 00:06:38,722 --> 00:06:43,347 and read that information, and edit Information if they think it's bad. 88 00:06:43,347 --> 00:06:46,226 It's not too different from Wikipedia, isn't it? 89 00:06:46,226 --> 00:06:51,584 And this is before Wikipedia starts, and this was developed by a 12-year-old child, 90 00:06:51,584 --> 00:06:58,452 in his room, by himself, runs this small server using ancient technology. 91 00:06:58,452 --> 00:07:01,282 And one teacher responds, 92 00:07:01,282 --> 00:07:07,282 "This is a bad idea, you can't just go so that whoever the encyclopedia writer is!" 93 00:07:07,282 --> 00:07:10,142 "All the reason we have scientists is to write these books for us. " 94 00:07:10,142 --> 00:07:12,674 " How can you have a terrible idea? " 95 00:07:12,674 --> 00:07:16,701 Me and my other brothers will be like, "Oh, you know, yeah Wikipedia is cool, but..." 96 00:07:16,701 --> 00:07:20,408 "We have a home in our house, five years ago. " 97 00:07:21,288 --> 00:07:25,597 Visit www.Fortunebet99.cc The Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 98 00:07:25,597 --> 00:07:30,348 was organized by Cambridge-based ArsDigita web design company. 99 00:07:33,688 --> 00:07:38,090 We all go to Cambridge when he wins the ArsDigita prize 100 00:07:38,090 --> 00:07:40,056 and we don't know what Aaron is doing. 101 00:07:40,056 --> 00:07:43,358 Obviously the prize is very important 102 00:07:44,118 --> 00:07:47,961 Aaron was immediately involved with the online programming community, 103 00:07:47,961 --> 00:07:51,437 so in the process of forming a new tool for the Web. 104 00:07:51,437 --> 00:07:55,545 He came to me and like, "Ben, here it is. The amazing thing I'm working on." 105 00:07:55,545 --> 00:07:57,713 "You need to hear it!" 106 00:07:57,713 --> 00:07:59,742 "Yeah, ada apa?" 107 00:07:59,742 --> 00:08:01,769 "This is what is called RSS." 108 00:08:02,689 --> 00:08:07,521 And he explained to me what the RSS was. I like, "Why is that useful, Aaron?" 109 00:08:07,521 --> 00:08:11,268 "Is it there are sites that use it? Why do I want to use it? " 110 00:08:11,268 --> 00:08:16,633 There is this mailing list for people who are there Working on RSS, and XML is more common, 111 00:08:16,633 --> 00:08:21,254 and there is someone on it named Aaron Swartz who is aggressive but very smart, 112 00:08:21,254 --> 00:08:24,765 and who has lots of good ideas, and 113 00:08:24,765 --> 00:08:28,636 he never comes to face-to-face meeting, and they say, 114 00:08:28,636 --> 00:08:31,922 "You know, when will you go out to one of these face-to-face meetings?" 115 00:08:31,922 --> 00:08:37,222 And he said, "You know , I don't think my mom will let me I'm only fourteen. " 116 00:08:37,222 --> 00:08:42,674 Then their first reaction was: "Okay, this guy, this colleague we've worked all year 117 00:08:42,674 --> 00:08:46,694 Thirteen years old when we were Working with him, and he only fourteen years old now. " 118 00:08:46,694 --> 00:08:48,007 And their second reaction was: 119 00:08:48,007 --> 00:08:51,290 " Dear God, we really want to meet him. That's amazing! " 120 00:08:51,290 --> 00:08:53,685 He is part of the committee that designed the RSS. 121 00:08:53,685 --> 00:08:59,151 What he did was helped build plumbing for modern hypertext. 122 00:08:59,151 --> 00:09:05,856 The part he was working on, RSS, is a tool that you can use to get a summary 123 00:09:05,856 --> 00:09:08,675 of things that happen on other web pages. 124 00:09:08,675 --> 00:09:10,613 Most commonly, you will use this for a blog . 125 00:09:10,613 --> 00:09:13,511 You may have 10 or 20 blog people you want to read. 126 00:09:13,511 --> 00:09:18,318 You use their RSS feed, this summary what happens on that other page 127 00:09:18,318 --> 00:09:22,609 to create an integrated list of all the things that are happening. 128 00:09:22,609 --> 00:09:27,618 Aaron is right- really young, but he understands the technology and he sees that it's not perfect 129 00:09:27,618 --> 00:09:30,418 and looks for ways to help make it better. 130 00:09:35,645 --> 00:09:39,965 So his mother starts holding him on an airplane in Chicago We will pick him up in San Francicso. 131 00:09:39,965 --> 00:09:45,363 We will introduce him to interesting people to argue, and we admire his terrible eating habits. 132 00:09:45,363 --> 00:09:51,072 He only eats white food, just like steamed rice and not fried rice because the color isn't white enough 133 00:09:51,072 --> 00:09:53,700 and white bread, and so on... 134 00:09:53,700 --> 00:09:59,250 and you are rather amazed at the quality of the debate that emerges from here, 135 00:09:59,263 --> 00:10:01,744 What looks like the mouth of a little boy, 136 00:10:01,744 --> 00:10:05,063 and you will think, this is a child who really will go somewhere if he doesn't die of scurvy. 137 00:10:05,063 --> 00:10:06,693 Aaron, you wake up! 138 00:10:06,693 --> 00:10:10,002 I think the difference is that now you can't make companies like dotcoms. 139 00:10:10,002 --> 00:10:15,720 You can't have a company that has just sold dog food over the Internet, or sold dog food over the phone mobile. 140 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,186 But there are still many innovations going on. 141 00:10:18,186 --> 00:10:21,425 I think that maybe if you don't see Innovation, maybe your head is in the sand. 142 00:10:21,425 --> 00:10:24,696 He took this, like the alpha nerd personality, where he was 143 00:10:24,696 --> 00:10:28,612 like, "I'm smarter than you, and because I'm smarter than you, I'm better than you, 144 00:10:28,612 --> 00:10:30,884 and I can tell you what to do. " 145 00:10:30,884 --> 00:10:35,202 This is an extension of, like, he became like twerp. 146 00:10:35,310 --> 00:10:39,010 So you gathered all these computers together and now they solve a big problem 147 00:10:39,010 --> 00:10:42,040 like looking aliens and try to cure cancer. 148 00:10:45,110 --> 00:10:48,470 I first met him on IRC, on Internet Relay Chat. 149 00:10:48,470 --> 00:10:53,490 He didn't just write code, he also had people happy to solve problems it has. 150 00:10:53,490 --> 00:10:55,617 He is a connector. 151 00:10:55,617 --> 00:10:58,417 The free culture movement has a lot of energy. 152 00:10:58,751 --> 00:11:03,872 I think Aaron is trying to make world work < br /> He tried to fix it. 153 00:11:03,872 --> 00:11:08,640 He has a very strong personality that must have ruffled feathers at times. 154 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,395 Unexpectedly he always feels comfortable in this world 155 00:11:13,395 --> 00:11:16,265 and the world isn't always comfortable with it. 156 00:11:18,994 --> 00:11:22,994 Aaron goes to high school and is really sick of school. 157 00:11:22,999 --> 00:11:27,939 He doesn't like it. He doesn't like one of his classes being taught He doesn't like teachers. 158 00:11:27,939 --> 00:11:30,496 Aaron really knows how to get information . 159 00:11:30,496 --> 00:11:34,819 He is like, "I don't need to discuss this The teacher learns how to do geometry. 160 00:11:34,819 --> 00:11:37,012 I can only read geometry books, 161 00:11:37,032 --> 00:11:41,178 and I no need to go to this teacher study the version of their American history, 162 00:11:41,178 --> 00:11:45,400 I have three historical compilations here, I can read them, 163 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:49,091 and I'm not interested in that. < br /> I am interested in the Web. " 164 00:11:49,091 --> 00:11:53,368 I am very frustrated with school. I think the teachers don't know what they are talking about, 165 00:11:53,368 --> 00:11:57,021 and they dominate and control, and homework is a kind of trick, 166 00:11:57,021 --> 00:12:01,103 and it's all like all about how to pen students all together and force them to do busy. 167 00:12:01,103 --> 00:12:05,305 And, you know, I started reading books about educational history 168 00:12:05,305 --> 00:12:07,847 and how this education system was developed, 169 00:12:07,847 --> 00:12:11,221 and, you know, the alternative to that and the way people really can learn many things 170 00:12:11,221 --> 00:12:15,021 as opposed to just spitting out the fact that the teacher told them, 171 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:19,428 and that kind of thing made me follow the path of asking these things, as soon as I asked the school I was in, 172 00:12:19,428 --> 00:12:24,361 I questioned the community that built the school, I asked the business that the schools were training people for, 173 00:12:24,361 --> 00:12:28,089 I question the government that forms this whole structure. 174 00:12:28,089 --> 00:12:32,022 One of the things he likes most is copyright, especially in those early days. 175 00:12:32,192 --> 00:12:37,600 Copyright is always a burden on the publishing industry and readers, 176 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:43,460 But that is not an excessive burden. It is a reasonable institution to have 177 00:12:44,477 --> 00:12:46,913 to ensure that people paid. 178 00:12:47,045 --> 00:12:53,083 What Aaron's generation experienced was a collision between this antique copyright system 179 00:12:53,083 --> 00:12:57,120 and the amazing new things we wanted to build - the Internet and the Web. 180 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,260 These things collided, and what we got was chaos. 181 00:13:02,454 --> 00:13:06,061 He later met with Harvard Law Professor Lawrence Lessig, 182 00:13:06,061 --> 00:13:09,328 who later challenged copyright law in the Supreme Court. > 183 00:13:09,328 --> 00:13:13,269 A young man Aaron Swartz flew to Washington to hear the Supreme Court hearing. 184 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:17,759 I am Aaron Swartz and I am here to listen to the Eldred - to see Eldred's document. 185 00:13:17,894 --> 00:13:23,144 Why did you fly here from Chicago, and get this far to see Eldred's argument? 186 00:13:23,493 --> 00:13:25,743 That's a more difficult question... 187 00:13:29,231 --> 00:13:33,974 I don't know Very interesting look at the Supreme Court, 188 00:13:33,974 --> 00:13:36,704 especially in prestigious cases like this. 189 00:13:42,669 --> 00:13:47,039 Lessig also moves forward with a new way to define copyright on the Internet. 190 00:13:47,039 --> 00:13:49,356 It's called Creative Commons. 191 00:13:49,356 --> 00:13:53,560 So a simple Creative Commons idea is to give people - creators - 192 00:13:53,560 --> 00:13:58,694 a simple way to mark their creativity with the freedom they want to bring. 193 00:13:58,694 --> 00:14:04,583 So if rights copyright is all about "All Rights Reserved", then this is a kind of "Some Protected Rights" model. 194 00:14:04,583 --> 00:14:08,789 I want a simple way to say to you, "This is what you can do with my work, 195 00:14:08,979 --> 00:14:13,715 even if there are other things you need to get my permission before you can do it. " 196 00:14:13,715 --> 00:14:16,501 And Aaron's role is the computer part. 197 00:14:16,501 --> 00:14:20,802 Like, how do you architect the license so that they will be simple and easy to understand 198 00:14:20,802 --> 00:14:24,127 and disclosed in a way so that the machine can process it ? 199 00:14:24,207 --> 00:14:29,994 And people like, "Why do you have a fifteen-year-old child who writes specifications for Creative Commons? 200 00:14:29,994 --> 00:14:32,159 Don't you think it's a big mistake? " 201 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:35,679 Dan Larry is like," The biggest mistake we will do is not listen to this child. " 202 00:14:36,031 --> 00:14:39,668 He is not even tall enough to even pass the podium, 203 00:14:39,711 --> 00:14:43,100 and this moving podium is embarrassing, 204 00:14:43,102 --> 00:14:45,968 Where did he first install the screen, no one can see his face. 205 00:14:46,874 --> 00:14:51,257 When you come to our site here, and you go to "Choose License". 206 00:14:51,257 --> 00:14:56,957 This gives you a list of these options, this explains what they mean, and you have three simple questions: 207 00:14:57,740 --> 00:15:00,055 "Do you want to request attribution?" 208 00:15:00,225 --> 00:15:03,287 "Do you want to allow commercial use of your work?" 209 00:15:03,507 --> 00:15:06,413 "Do you want to allow modifications to your work?" 211 00:15:12,246 --> 00:15:16,428 and Aaron stood there in front of a full audience, and just started talking 212 00:15:16,428 --> 00:15:20,421 about the platform he made for Creative Commons, 213 00:15:20,421 --> 00:15:23,372 and they all listened to it, only... 214 00:15:23,372 --> 00:15:28,742 I sit in the back, thinking: he's just a child, why are they listening? 215 00:15:28,892 --> 00:15:29,978 But they did it... 216 00:15:30,168 --> 00:15:32,784 Well, I don't think I'm completely understand it. 217 00:15:32,784 --> 00:15:37,171 Although critics say there isn't much that ensures artists get paid for their work, 218 00:15:37,216 --> 00:15:40,572 Creative Commons success is huge. 219 00:15:40,572 --> 00:15:46,776 Currently on the Flickr website itself, more than 200 million people use some Creative Commons licenses. 221 00:15:57,651 --> 00:16:00,551 Aaron often writes honestly on his personal blog: 222 00:16:01,101 --> 00:16:05,812 I think of many things, and I want others to do the same thing. 223 00:16:06,722 --> 00:16:11,049 I work for ideas and learn from others. I don't like to exclude people. 224 00:16:11,429 --> 00:16:15,556 I am a perfectionist, but I will not allow that to block publication. 225 00:16:15,636 --> 00:16:19,661 Except for education and entertainment, I will not waste my time 226 00:16:19,661 --> 00:16:21,654 on things that will not have an impact. 227 00:16:21,654 --> 00:16:26,161 I try to make friends with everyone, but I hate it when you don't think seriously me. 228 00:16:26,161 --> 00:16:32,086 I don't hold grudges, it's not productive, but I learned from my experience. 229 00:16:32,086 --> 00:16:35,396 I want to make the world a better place. 230 00:16:41,102 --> 00:16:46,475 In 2004, Swartz left Highland Park and enroll at Stanford University. 231 00:16:46,475 --> 00:16:51,848 He suffered from ulcerative colitis which was very disturbing, and we were worried that he would take the medicine. 232 00:16:51,848 --> 00:16:55,863 He was hospitalized and he would take this pill cocktail every day , 233 00:16:56,753 --> 00:17:01,093 and one of the pills was a steroid that inhibited its growth, 234 00:17:01,093 --> 00:17:04,782 and made it feel different from other students. 235 00:17:04,782 --> 00:17:07,828 Aaron, I thought, appeared at Stanford ready to do a scholarship 236 00:17:07,828 --> 00:17:12,801 and find itself in a child care program for over-achieving high school children 237 00:17:12,801 --> 00:17:20,828 who in four years are intended to be industry captains and one percent 238 00:17:20,828 --> 00:17:25,578 and I think it only makes it banana. 239 00:17:26,077 --> 00:17:29,197 In 2005, after just one year of college, 240 00:17:29,197 --> 00:17:35,874 Swartz was offered a place at a new start-up incubation company called Y Combinator, led by Paul Graham. 241 00:17:36,431 --> 00:17:39,777 He was like, "Hey, I have an idea for a website." 242 00:17:39,851 --> 00:17:43,170 And Paul Graham liked it enough, and said, "Yes, of course." / p> 243 00:17:43,170 --> 00:17:46,650 So Aaron came down from school, moved to this apartment... 244 00:17:46,668 --> 00:17:49,604 So this was Aaron's apartment when he moved here. 245 00:17:49,604 --> 00:17:55,397 I have vague memories of my father who said how difficult it was to get rent 246 00:17:55,397 --> 00:17:58,737 Because Aaron had no credit and he dropped out of college. 247 00:17:58,742 --> 00:18:04,989 Aaron lived in the now-living room and some of his posters were left behind when Aaron stayed here. 248 00:18:04,989 --> 00:18:09,889 And then the library... there are more books, but many of them belong to Aaron. 249 00:18:11,551 --> 00:18:17,511 The Aaron Y Combinator site is called "infogami", a tool for building websites. 250 00:18:17,511 --> 00:18:21,098 But infogamy struggles to find users, and finally Swartz 251 00:18:21,098 --> 00:18:25,037 combines his company with another Y Combinator project that needs help. 252 00:18:25,037 --> 00:18:29,919 That is a project led by Steve Huffman and Alexis Ohanian, called " Reddit ". 253 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:33,988 We are there, from almost nothing. There are no users, no money, no code, 254 00:18:33,988 --> 00:18:37,657 and develops from day to day is a very popular site, 255 00:18:37,657 --> 00:18:39,846 And it shows no sign of giving up. 256 00:18:39,846 --> 00:18:44,373 Pertama kita punya 1000 pengguna, lalu 10000, lalu 20000 dan seterusnya, dan seterusnya ... Itu sungguh luar biasa. 257 00:18:44,373 --> 00:18:49,563 Reddit is great and this is really a geeky corner of the Internet. 258 00:18:52,642 --> 00:19:01,220 There is a lot of humor, there are a lot of arts, and there are only people flocking to this site, 259 00:19:01,220 --> 00:19:07,883 and make the site the main site they go to every morning to get their news. 260 00:19:07,883 --> 00:19:12,008 reddit type only borders on chaos on several levels, 261 00:19:12,008 --> 00:19:19,368 So on the one hand it is a place where people discuss news about the day, technology, politics and issues, 262 00:19:19,368 --> 00:19:24,824 but there are many types of material that are not safe for work, offensive material, 263 00:19:24,824 --> 00:19:29,716 there are several sub-reddits where troll found the house welcome, 264 00:19:29,716 --> 00:19:33,929 So, in that sense reddit is also the home of controversy. 265 00:19:33,929 --> 00:19:36,791 It's like sitting on the edge of chaos. 266 00:19:36,791 --> 00:19:41,081 reddit captures the attention of the magazine giant Condé Nast's corporate, 267 00:19:41,081 --> 00:19:42,938 who made an offer to buy a company. 268 00:19:42,938 --> 00:19:46,939 A large amount of money, large enough so that my father was tapped with questions 269 00:19:46,939 --> 00:19:51,079 about like: "How do I save this money?" 270 00:19:51,302 --> 00:19:54,272 - Like a lot of money... - Like a lot of money. 271 00:19:54,272 --> 00:20:00,319 Like maybe more than a million dollars, but I really don't know. 272 00:20:00,319 --> 00:20:03,461 - And he how old is he at that time? - 19, 20 273 00:20:05,165 --> 00:20:11,205 So in this apartment. They sit around on what this sofa precedes, 274 00:20:11,205 --> 00:20:14,675 hacking on Reddit, and when they sell Reddit 275 00:20:14,757 --> 00:20:18,641 They throw a giant party, then all fly to California the next day, 276 00:20:18,641 --> 00:20:21,885 and leave the key with me. 277 00:20:24,261 --> 00:20:27,480 Funny, you know, he just sold his start up so we all suspect 278 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,329 He is the richest person around 279 00:20:29,329 --> 00:20:33,920 But he said, "Oh no, I'll take this little little shoebox room. That's everything I need." 280 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,146 It's hardly bigger than a closet. 281 00:20:36,146 --> 00:20:42,499 The idea of him spending his money Luxurious things seem very absurd. 282 00:20:42,580 --> 00:20:47,590 He explained it as, "I like living in an apartment so I won't spend a lot of money to live in a new place, I won't buy a big house, 283 00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:49,888 and I like to wear jeans and T-shirts, 284 00:20:50,016 --> 00:20:52,046 so I won't spend any more money on clothes. 285 00:20:52,046 --> 00:20:54,576 > 286 00:20:54,576 --> 00:20:57,966 So this isn't a big deal. " 287 00:20:58,140 --> 00:21:00,680 What Swartz's big problem is how traffic flows on the internet, 288 00:21:00,844 --> 00:21:04,252 and what commands our attention 289 00:21:04,252 --> 00:21:08,583 space in the airwaves You can only send ten channels via airwaves, television 290 00:21:08,583 --> 00:21:10,915 or even with cable, you have 500 channels. 291 00:21:11,003 --> 00:21:15,593 On the Internet, every people can have channels. Everyone can get a blog, or MySpace page. 292 00:21:15,690 --> 00:21:18,274 Everyone has a way to express themselves. 293 00:21:18,274 --> 00:21:21,280 What you see now is not a question who gets it access to the airwaves, 294 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,100 This is the question of who can control it the way you find people. 295 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:29,286 You know, you begin to see the power of centralization on sites like Google, a kind of guard lever that tells you 296 00:21:29,286 --> 00:21:30,993 where on the internet you want to go 297 00:21:30,993 --> 00:21:34,273 People who give you your news and information sources. 298 00:21:34,273 --> 00:21:38,314 So it's not just certain people who have a license to speak, now everyone has 299 00:21:38,314 --> 00:21:40,904 a license to speak This is the question of who was heard. 300 00:21:45,196 --> 00:21:49,806 After him started working in San Francisco at Condé Nast, he came to the office 301 00:21:49,806 --> 00:21:53,792 and they wanted to give him a computer with all this crap installed on it 302 00:21:53,792 --> 00:21:57,273 and say he can't install new items on this computer, 303 00:21:57,273 --> 00:21:59,375 which for developers is very embarrassing. 304 00:21:59,375 --> 00:22:02,095 From day one, he complained about all the items 305 00:22:05,317 --> 00:22:11,147 "Gray walls, gray tables, gray noise. The first day I appeared here, I can't accept it. 306 00:22:11,147 --> 00:22:15,483 At lunch time, I really lock yourself up in the bathroom stall and start crying. 307 00:22:15,483 --> 00:22:18,285 I can't imagine a sane life with someone buzzing in my ears all day 308 00:22:18,285 --> 00:22:21,575 Never mind doing the real work done. 309 00:22:21,575 --> 00:22:24,087 No one else seems to work here too 310 00:22:24,087 --> 00:22:27,587 Everyone always goes into our room hanging out and chatting, or invite us to play 311 00:22:27,587 --> 00:22:29,927 the new video game system that Wired is testing. " 312 00:22:32,972 --> 00:22:37,867 He really has different aspirations that are politically oriented, 313 00:22:37,987 --> 00:22:41,862 and Silicon Valley does not really have that culture 314 00:22:41,862 --> 00:22:46,967 that directs technical activity to goals political goals. 315 00:22:47,237 --> 00:22:49,613 Aaron hates working for the corporation. 316 00:22:49,613 --> 00:22:53,673 They all hate working for Condé Nast, but Aaron is the only one who doesn't want to accept it. 317 00:22:53,694 --> 00:22:55,884 And finally Aaron was fired. 318 00:22:55,903 --> 00:22:58,313 By not appearing to work, forever. 319 00:23:01,183 --> 00:23:05,434 It was said to be a farewell apart. Both Alexis Ohanian and Steve Huffman 320 00:23:05,447 --> 00:23:08,277 refused to be interviewed for this film. 321 00:23:09,251 --> 00:23:15,891 He refused the business world. One very important thing to remember 322 00:23:15,891 --> 00:23:22,664 That choice when Aaron decides to leave start up Culture is that he also left the 323 00:23:22,664 --> 00:23:31,334 things that made him famous and loved very much, and he risked disappointed fans. 324 00:23:31,422 --> 00:23:35,866 He got to the place he was supposed to live in, and had self-awareness 325 00:23:35,866 --> 00:23:43,051 and authenticity to realize that he had climbed the mountain of nonsense to be picked 326 00:23:43,051 --> 00:23:45,849 a single rose and find that he has lost his sense of smell, 327 00:23:45,849 --> 00:23:50,399 and instead of sitting there and insisting that it is not as bad as it looks, 328 00:23:50,399 --> 00:23:53,693 and he gets the rose in any case, 329 00:23:53,693 --> 00:23:57,413 He climbs back down, which is pretty cool. 330 00:23:58,026 --> 00:24:01,728 The way Aaron always sees it, is that programming is magic - 331 00:24:01,728 --> 00:24:07,110 You can solve normal things < br /> humans can't, by being able to program. 332 00:24:07,110 --> 00:24:13,310 So if you have magical power, will you use them them for good, or to make you mountain of money? 333 00:24:15,009 --> 00:24:18,478 Swartz was inspired by a visionary he had met as a child. 334 00:24:18,478 --> 00:24:22,387 People who have found the World Wide Web, Tim Berners-Lee. 335 00:24:22,387 --> 00:24:25,938 In 1990- an, Berners-Lee arguably sits down 336 00:24:25,938 --> 00:24:29,260 one of the most profitable discoveries of 20th century, 337 00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:35,137 but instead of benefiting from this discovery from the World Wide Web, he gives it for free. 338 00:24:36,067 --> 00:24:39,707 Inilah satu-satunya alasan World Wide Web ada sekarang. 339 00:24:41,118 --> 00:24:45,261 Aaron certainly was greatly influenced by the Team. 340 00:24:45,261 --> 00:24:50,928 The team was of course a very prominent early internet genius, who was completely out of cash. 341 00:24:50,928 --> 00:24:55,865 He was not at all interested in how he would looking for ways to make a billion dollars. 342 00:24:55,865 --> 00:24:57,829 People say, "Ah, there is money to be made there," 343 00:24:57,829 --> 00:25:00,636 so there will be lots of small nets, 344 00:25:00,636 --> 00:25:02,139 instead of a big one, 345 00:25:02,139 --> 00:25:05,030 and one small web, and all types of nets don't work, 346 00:25:05,030 --> 00:25:08,080 because you can't follow links from one to another. 347 00:25:10,173 --> 00:25:14,112 You have to have a critical mass - the problem is the whole planet, 348 00:25:14,112 --> 00:25:17,172 so it won't work unless the entire planet can get on board. 349 00:25:24,141 --> 00:25:28,372 I feel very strong that it isn't enough to live on world like now, 350 00:25:28,702 --> 00:25:34,732 to just accept what you give, and you know, follow the things that adults say you do, 351 00:25:34,732 --> 00:25:39,032 and that your parents tell you to do it, and that society tells you to do it . I think you should always question. 352 00:25:39,045 --> 00:25:43,145 I take this scientific attitude, that everything you've learned is only temporary, 353 00:25:43,405 --> 00:25:49,267 that it's always open to recantation or ask, and in my opinion the same thing applies to society. 354 00:25:49,267 --> 00:25:53,491 Once I realize that there is a serious problem - a fundamental problem - 355 00:25:53,491 --> 00:25:58,601 that I can do something to overcome, I don't see a way to forget it. I don't see a way to not do it. 356 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,831 We just started spending a lot of time, 357 00:26:04,831 --> 00:26:06,621 just as friends. 358 00:26:08,912 --> 00:26:11,884 We will only chat, for hours, until night. 359 00:26:14,393 --> 00:26:18,110 I certainly understand that he is tempting me. I think to some degree, 360 00:26:18,110 --> 00:26:23,980 I, like, this is a terrible idea, and it's impossible, and because of that I will pretend it didn't happen. 361 00:26:25,161 --> 00:26:28,937 As my marriage was destroyed, and I was indeed really trapped without have to go, 362 00:26:28,937 --> 00:26:32,927 We become roommates, and I bring my daughter. 363 00:26:34,081 --> 00:26:37,246 We move, and equip the house really peaceful 364 00:26:37,246 --> 00:26:40,816 My life hasn't been peaceful for a while, and it doesn't have anything at all. 365 00:26:46,225 --> 00:26:54,073 We are very close from the beginning of our romantic relationship. 366 00:26:54,073 --> 00:26:57,633 We are just... we are always in touch. > 367 00:26:57,633 --> 00:27:02,432 But we are both really difficult people to handle. [laughs] 368 00:27:04,495 --> 00:27:10,865 In the very discussion of Ally McBeal, he claimed to have had a theme song, and I made it play for me. 369 00:27:12,345 --> 00:27:16,504 That was "Extraordinary Machine" by Fiona Apple. 370 00:27:16,504 --> 00:27:24,154 I think it's just a feeling of a kind of little fought that the song has, 371 00:27:25,054 --> 00:27:27,697 and also, like, this hope for that. 372 00:27:27,837 --> 00:27:34,418 ♪ On foot, this is a slow climb, but I well Because I feel uncomfortable, I can't stop 373 00:27:34,418 --> 00:27:36,689 changing all the time ♪ 374 00:27:36,689 --> 00:27:44,481 In many ways, Aaron is very optimistic about life. Even when he doesn't feel it, 375 00:27:44,481 --> 00:27:47,041 he can be very optimistic about life. 376 00:27:47,041 --> 00:27:49,561 ♪ The machine is amazing ♪ 377 00:27:53,237 --> 00:27:58,317 - What are you doing? (Quinn) - Flicker has a video now. 378 00:27:59,730 --> 00:28:01,743 Swartz throws his energy into a new string 379 00:28:01,743 --> 00:28:04,731 projects that involve access to public information, 380 00:28:04,731 --> 00:28:08,189 Visit www.Fortunebet99.cc Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agents 381 00:28:08,189 --> 00:28:10,799 and a project called The Open Library. 382 00:28:10,986 --> 00:28:15,299 Visit www.Fortunebet99.cc Trusted Secure Online Gambling Agent 383 00:28:15,299 --> 00:28:19,778 and the idea is to become a large wiki, a website that can be edited with one page per book. 384 00:28:19,778 --> 00:28:23,910 So for every book that has ever been published, we want to have a web page about it that combines 385 00:28:23,910 --> 00:28:29,551 all information from publishers, from booksellers, from libraries, from readers 386 00:28:29,551 --> 00:28:34,587 to one site, and then gives you a link where you can buy it, you can borrow it, or you can see it. 387 00:28:34,587 --> 00:28:39,958 I like the library. I'm the type of person who > go to a new city and immediately find a library. 388 00:28:39,958 --> 00:28:44,050 That's the dream of Open Library, building this website where both can leap 389 00:28:44,050 --> 00:28:49,297 From books to books, from person to writer, from the subject of ideas, through this broad tree 390 00:28:49,297 --> 00:28:54,127 from knowledge that has been embedded and lost in a large physical library, it's hard to find, 391 00:28:54,177 --> 00:28:59,086 It's not easily accessible online. This is very important because books are our cultural heritage. 392 00:28:59,086 --> 00:29:01,283 Books are where people go to write something, 393 00:29:01,283 --> 00:29:05,813 and to have everything that a corporation swallows is rather scary. 394 00:29:06,730 --> 00:29:10,771 How can you bring public access to the public domain? 395 00:29:10,771 --> 00:29:14,828 It may sound clear that you have public access to the public domain, 396 00:29:14,828 --> 00:29:21,368 But actually it's not true. So the public domain must be free for all, but often locked up. 397 00:29:21,378 --> 00:29:26,756 There are often cage guards. It's like having a national park but with the surrounding trenches, 398 00:29:26,756 --> 00:29:33,245 and the weapon tower shows, if someone might really come and enjoy the public sphere. 399 00:29:33,245 --> 00:29:39,458 One of the things that Aaron really wanted was to bring public access to the public sphere. 400 00:29:39,458 --> 00:29:43,258 This is one of the things that makes him experience so many problems. 401 00:29:46,254 --> 00:29:52,794 I have tried to get access to federal court records in the United States. 402 00:29:54,458 --> 00:29:59,108 What I found was a confusing system called PACER. 403 00:29:59,518 --> 00:30:03,124 Which stands for Public Access to Court Electronic Records. 404 00:30:03,124 --> 00:30:07,314 I started Googling, and that's when I ran across Carl Malamud. 405 00:30:08,886 --> 00:30:14,997 Akses terhadap materi hukum di Amerika Serikat adalah bisnis sepuluh miliar dolar per tahun. 406 00:30:14,997 --> 00:30:23,004 PACER is just this extraordinary abomination. from government service can search for it. You can't tag anything. 407 00:30:23,004 --> 00:30:27,471 You must have a credit card, and this is a public record. 408 00:30:27,471 --> 00:30:31,891 US District Court very important; where many court proceedings begin. 409 00:30:31,891 --> 00:30:37,429 Cases of civil rights, patent cases, all kinds of goods. Journalists, students, citizens and lawyers 410 00:30:37,429 --> 00:30:44,369 all need access to PACER, and this sounds every step of the way. 411 00:30:44,369 --> 00:30:48,637 People without means cannot see the law as easily as people who have that American Express Gold card. 412 00:30:48,637 --> 00:30:55,246 This is a poll tax on access to justice. 413 00:30:55,246 --> 00:30:57,776 Ini adalah pajak jajak pendapat tentang akses terhadap keadilan. 414 00:30:57,946 --> 00:31:04,096 You know, the law is our democratic operating system, and you have to pay to see it? 415 00:31:04,246 --> 00:31:07,135 You know, it's not democracy. 416 00:31:07,135 --> 00:31:11,869 They make about 120 million dollars a year on the system PACER, 417 00:31:11,869 --> 00:31:18,236 and there are no fees near it, according to their own records. Actually, it's illegal. 418 00:31:18,937 --> 00:31:25,834 The 2002 E-Government Act states that the court can charge only as far as is needed, 419 00:31:25,834 --> 00:31:29,591 to replace the cost of running PACER. 420 00:31:34,621 --> 00:31:40,160 As founder of Public.Resource.Org, Malamud wants to protest the charges of PACER. 421 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,300 He start a program called The PACER Recycling Project, 422 00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:47,297 where people can upload PACER documents that they have paid 423 00:31:47,297 --> 00:31:50,334 to a free database so others can use them. 424 00:31:50,334 --> 00:31:55,331 PACER people have received many complaints from Congress and others about public access, 425 00:31:55,336 --> 00:32:00,925 so they have gathered a system in 17 libraries across the country which are free PACER access. 426 00:32:01,885 --> 00:32:07,625 You know, it's a library every 22,000 square miles, I'm sure, it's not really comfortable. 427 00:32:08,095 --> 00:32:12,173 I encourage volunteers to join the so-called Thumb Drive Corps, 428 00:32:12,173 --> 00:32:17,157 and download documentation from the public access library, upload it to the PACER recycling site. 429 00:32:17,157 --> 00:32:20,813 People carry a thumb drive to one of these libraries, and they download a collection of documents, 430 00:32:20,813 --> 00:32:25,089 and they send them to me. I mean, it's just a joke. 431 00:32:25,089 --> 00:32:28,636 Actually, when you click on Thumb Drive Corps, there is the Wizard of Oz, 432 00:32:28,636 --> 00:32:32,111 you know, Munchkins singing, it becomes a videoclip appears: 433 00:32:32,173 --> 00:32:35,034 ♪ We represent a lollipop guild... ♪ 434 00:32:35,260 --> 00:32:39,386 But of course, I received a call from Steve Shultz and Aaron, saying, 435 00:32:39,621 --> 00:32:43,047 "Wow, we want to join Thumb Drive Corps. " 436 00:32:43,377 --> 00:32:47,544 Around that time, I met Aaron at a conference. 437 00:32:47,544 --> 00:32:51,633 This was something that really had to be collaboration between many different people. 438 00:32:51,633 --> 00:32:53,347 So I approached him and I said, 439 00:32:53,347 --> 00:32:58,195 "Hey, I'm thinking of an intervention on the PACER problem." 440 00:32:59,865 --> 00:33:04,442 Schultz has developed a program that can automatically download PACER documents 441 00:33:04,442 --> 00:33:06,459 from the experimental library 442 00:33:06,459 --> 00:33:08,796 Swartz wants to take a look. 443 00:33:08,796 --> 00:33:13,481 Jadi, saya menunjukkan kepadanya kode itu, dan saya tidak tahu apa yang akan terjadi selanjutnya, 444 00:33:13,481 --> 00:33:19,033 But it turns out, for the next few hours at the conference, 445 00:33:19,033 --> 00:33:24,588 He wasn't sitting in a corner, fixing my code, recruiting his friends 446 00:33:24,588 --> 00:33:32,139 who lived near one of these libraries to enter the library, and start testing the corrected code. 447 00:33:32,139 --> 00:33:38,440 At which time people in the court realize something is not going according to plan. 448 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,901 And the data starts to enter, enter, and enter 449 00:33:42,901 --> 00:33:47,632 and there will soon be a 760 GB PACER document, about 20 million pages. 450 00:33:48,862 --> 00:33:52,098 Using the information taken from the experiment library, 451 00:33:52,098 --> 00:33:57,304 Swartz downloads parallel automatically from the PACER system. 452 00:33:57,304 --> 00:34:04,360 He can get almost 2.7 million Federal Court documents, nearly 20 million pages of text. 453 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:09,865 Now, I will give you that 20 million pages might exceed expectations people 454 00:34:09,865 --> 00:34:14,535 running a pilot access project, but surprisingly a bureaucrat is not illegal. 455 00:34:14,830 --> 00:34:19,096 Aaron and Carl decided to talk to The New York Times about what happened. 456 00:34:19,731 --> 00:34:26,500 They also attracted the attention of the FBI , who started asking Swartz's parents in Illinois. 457 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:31,053 And I got a tweet from his mother, said, "call me !!" 458 00:34:31,053 --> 00:34:34,127 So, I think, like, what happened here? 459 00:34:34,127 --> 00:34:38,981 So, finally I held Aaron and, you know, Aaron's mother like, "My Lord, FBI, FBI, FBI!" 460 00:34:40,271 --> 00:34:45,831 An FBI agent walked down the driveway us, try to see if Aaron is in his room. 461 00:34:47,164 --> 00:34:51,899 I remember being home that day, and wondering why this car drove in our driveway, 462 00:34:51,899 --> 00:34:55,110 and just driving back . That's weird! 463 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:04,953 Like, five years later I read this FBI file, like, oh, yes, it's an FBI agent, on my home page. 464 00:35:05,185 --> 00:35:09,009 He was very scared. He was really scared. 465 00:35:09,959 --> 00:35:14,920 He was far more scared after the FBI actually called him on the phone, 466 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,302 and tried to suck him down to the coffee shop without a lawyer. 467 00:35:19,322 --> 00:35:23,664 He said he came home home and lie on the bed and, you know, are trembling. 468 00:35:25,511 --> 00:35:30,006 Download also finds massive privacy violations in court documents. 469 00:35:30,242 --> 00:35:34,922 Finally, the court was forced to change their policies as a result, 470 00:35:34,922 --> 00:35:39,850 and the FBI closed their investigation without filing a lawsuit. 471 00:35:39,850 --> 00:35:42,722 To this day, I feel extraordinary 472 00:35:42,722 --> 00:35:47,823 anyone, even at the most remote podidd field office on the FBI 473 00:35:47,823 --> 00:35:52,327 thinks that the right use of taxpayer dollars is investigating people 474 00:35:52,327 --> 00:35:55,491 for criminal theft on the grounds that they have made a public law. 475 00:35:55,491 --> 00:35:57,746 How can you call yourself a lawman, 476 00:35:58,055 --> 00:36:02,055 and think that there might be something wrong in this whole world 477 00:36:02,055 --> 00:36:03,815 by making public law? 478 00:36:03,815 --> 00:36:09,455 Aaron is willing to put himself at risk for the cause he believes . 479 00:36:09,455 --> 00:36:15,586 Disturbed by differences in wealth, Swartz moved beyond technology, and became a broader political cause. 480 00:36:15,586 --> 00:36:21,786 I went to Congress, and I invited him to come and hang out and apprentice for us to temporarily 481 00:36:21,812 --> 00:36:25,182 so that he can learn the political process. 482 00:36:25,194 --> 00:36:31,194 He sort of learns about new communities and tools of skills and new types of learning for hack politics. 483 00:36:31,194 --> 00:36:36,506 It seems ridiculous that the miners have to brush it aside until their entire bodies are sweaty 484 00:36:36,506 --> 00:36:41,276 Faced with the knowledge that if they dare to stop, they cannot eat on the table that night, 485 00:36:41,306 --> 00:36:46,576 temporarily I can make big and bigger amounts of money every day just by sitting and watching TV. 486 00:36:46,648 --> 00:36:48,898 But it turns out the world is ridiculous. 487 00:36:49,025 --> 00:36:53,035 So, I founded a group called "The Progressive Change Campaign Committee ", 488 00:36:53,058 --> 00:36:58,298 and what we are trying to do is we try to organize people through the Internet who care about progressive politics 489 00:36:58,318 --> 00:37:00,568 and move the country towards a more progressive direction 490 00:37:00,570 --> 00:37:03,787 to join together, join our e-mail list, join our campaign 491 00:37:03,787 --> 00:37:06,297 and help us to get selected progressive candidates across the country. 492 00:37:06,326 --> 00:37:12,656 This group is responsible for sparking grassroots efforts behind the campaign to elect Elizabeth Warren to the Senate. 493 00:37:12,806 --> 00:37:17,896 He might think it was a stupid system but he came in and he said, "I need to study this system, 494 00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:21,480 because it can be manipulated like any social system." 495 00:37:21,540 --> 00:37:25,850 But his passion for knowledge and library not taking a back seat. 496 00:37:25,855 --> 00:37:31,170 Aaron began to look more closely at institutions that publish academic journal articles. 497 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:35,630 Because I am a student at a US university, I assume you have access 498 00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:38,760 to various scientific journals. 499 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,851 Almost all major universities in the United States pay such license fees to organizations like 500 00:37:43,851 --> 00:37:50,952 JSTOR and Thompson Fill to gain access to scientific journals that the whole world cannot read. 501 00:37:51,054 --> 00:37:57,278 These scientific journals and articles are basically the overall wealth of human knowledge online, 502 00:37:57,278 --> 00:38:02,278 and many have been paid with taxpayers' money or government grants, 503 00:38:02,413 --> 00:38:08,639 But to read them, you often have to pay again while handing in stolen fees to publishers like Reed-Elsevier. 504 00:38:08,801 --> 00:38:14,732 This license fee so large that people studying in India, rather than studying in the United States, 505 00:38:15,128 --> 00:38:18,937 do not have access like this They are locked from all these journals. 506 00:38:19,253 --> 00:38:23,247 They are locked from the whole of our scientific heritage. 507 00:38:23,247 --> 00:38:27,361 I mean, many of these journal articles, they return to The Enlightenment. 508 00:38:27,361 --> 00:38:32,467 Every time someone writes a scientific work, the book has been scanned, digitized, and entered into this collection. 509 00:38:32,467 --> 00:38:39,766 That is the legacy that we have lived by the history of people who do interesting work, the history of scientists. 510 00:38:39,766 --> 00:38:43,167 This is a legacy that should be ours as public property, as human beings, 511 00:38:43,167 --> 00:38:48,127 However, it has been confined and marketed online by a handful of non-profit companies 512 00:38:48,127 --> 00:38:53,044 then try to get the maximum benefit they can get out of it. 513 00:38:53,464 --> 00:38:58,769 Be a researcher who is paid by the university or someone publishes a paper, 514 00:38:58,769 --> 00:39:02,312 and at the very last step of the process, after all work is done, 515 00:39:02,312 --> 00:39:07,031 After all original research is done - thought, laboratory work, analysis, after everything is done, 516 00:39:07,031 --> 00:39:13,359 In the last stage, the researcher must hand over the copyright to this multi-billion dollar company. 517 00:39:14,488 --> 00:39:18,238 And that hurts. This is an entire economy built on voluntary work, 518 00:39:18,238 --> 00:39:21,080 and then the publisher sits at the very top and scraps the cream. 519 00:39:21,930 --> 00:39:28,968 Talk about scam. One publisher in the UK made a profit of three billion dollars last year. 520 00:39:28,968 --> 00:39:30,484 I mean, what is a racquet! 521 00:39:30,494 --> 00:39:34,321 JSTOR is just a very small player in the story 522 00:39:34,321 --> 00:39:41,068 But for some reason, JSTOR is a player that Aaron decided to face. 523 00:39:41,068 --> 00:39:45,009 He went to a conference around Open Access and Open Publishing, 524 00:39:45,009 --> 00:39:47,070 and I didn't know who that person was from JSTOR, 525 00:39:47,070 --> 00:39:50,368 But I thought they - at some point, Aaron asked a question, 526 00:39:50,368 --> 00:39:54,606 "How much does it cost to open JSTOR continuously?" 527 00:39:54,606 --> 00:39:58,225 And they give some - I think it's two hundred million dollars, 528 00:39:58,225 --> 00:40:00,422 something that Aaron thinks is really ridiculous. 529 00:40:01,166 --> 00:40:07,452 Working in an alliance at Harvard, he knows the user at the famous MIT network is open and fast next to it 530 00:40:07,452 --> 00:40:12,238 has given authority to access JSTOR's wealth. Swartz sees an opportunity. 531 00:40:12,238 --> 00:40:14,434 You have the gate key, 532 00:40:14,434 --> 00:40:19,694 and with a little magic shell script, you can get the journal article. 533 00:40:21,302 --> 00:40:23,492 On September 24, 2010, 534 00:40:23,492 --> 00:40:27,301 Swartz registered the newly purchased Acer laptop 535 00:40:27,301 --> 00:40:31,479 at the MIT network, with the name "Garry Host". 536 00:40:31,479 --> 00:40:36,169 The client's name is listed as "GHost laptop". 537 00:40:36,169 --> 00:40:38,990 He did not hack JSTOR in the traditional sense of hacking. 538 00:40:38,990 --> 00:40:40,943 The JSTOR database is organized, 539 00:40:40,943 --> 00:40:44,500 it is very trivial to know how you can download all the articles in JSTOR, 540 00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:46,567 because they are basically numbered. 541 00:40:46,567 --> 00:40:52,351 That is basically slash slash slash... article number 444024 and - 25 and -26. 542 00:40:52,351 --> 00:40:55,784 He wrote a Python script called keepgrabbing.pi, 543 00:40:55,784 --> 00:40:58,607 which was like, continued to reach one article after another. 544 00:40:58,607 --> 00:41:02,210 The next day, GHost's laptop started to grab the article, 545 00:41:02,210 --> 00:41:08,765 but soon, the computer's IP address was blocked. For Swartz, this was almost no bump on the road. 546 00:41:08,765 --> 00:41:13,628 He immediately reassigned his computer's IP address and keep downloading. 547 00:41:13,628 --> 00:41:18,172 Well, JSTOR and MIT take a number of steps to try to interfere with this, 548 00:41:18,172 --> 00:41:19,766 when they realize that this is happening, 549 00:41:19,766 --> 00:41:22,184 and if step the simpler doesn't work, 550 00:41:22,184 --> 00:41:27,171 Then at some stage, JSTOR only cuts MIT from having access to the JSTOR database. 551 00:41:27,171 --> 00:41:29,713 So there is some kind of cat and mouse game 552 00:41:29,713 --> 00:41:33,876 get access to the JSTOR database 553 00:41:33,876 --> 00:41:39,920 Aaron, finally, the cat is clear because he has more technical ability 554 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,921 than the JSTOR database that people do in defending it. 555 00:41:42,921 --> 00:41:47,228 Finally, there is an inventory cabinet that is not locked in the wrong basement one building, 556 00:41:47,228 --> 00:41:51,495 and he left, instead of going through WiFi, he went there and he immediately installed his computer directly into the network 557 00:41:51,495 --> 00:41:56,541 and left it there with an external hard drive that downloaded the article This is to the computer. 558 00:41:56,541 --> 00:42:01,812 It is unknown to Swartz, the laptop and hard drive have been found by the authorities. 559 00:42:02,882 --> 00:42:05,736 They do not stop downloading. 560 00:42:05,736 --> 00:42:09,001 Instead, they install the camera reconnaissance. 561 00:42:10,584 --> 00:42:14,540 They found a computer in this room in the basement of an MIT building. 562 00:42:15,382 --> 00:42:19,759 They could revoke it. They could just wait for the man to come back and say, 563 00:42:19,759 --> 00:42:23,764 " Dude, what are you doing, you know, cutting who you are? " 564 00:42:23,764 --> 00:42:25,887 They can do all kinds of things like that, but they don't. 565 00:42:25,887 --> 00:42:30,182 What they want to do is film it to gather evidence to make a case. 566 00:42:30,182 --> 00:42:36,477 That's the only reason you filmed something like that. 567 00:42:37,667 --> 00:42:42,082 Initially, the only person caught in a glitchy surveillance camera 568 00:42:42,082 --> 00:42:46,475 used a closet as a place to store bottles and cans. 569 00:42:53,202 --> 00:42:57,033 But days later, he caught Swartz. 570 00:43:06,185 --> 00:43:10,658 Swartz changed the hard disk. He took it out of his backpack, 571 00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:14,517 lean outside the frame for about five minutes, 572 00:43:15,014 --> 00:43:21,863 and then leave. 573 00:43:37,238 --> 00:43:41,775 And then they organize, like, reconnaissance places, when he bikes home from MIT, 574 00:43:41,899 --> 00:43:44,554 This cop comes out from either side of the road, 575 00:43:44,614 --> 00:43:48,436 or something like that, and starts chasing him 576 00:43:49,199 --> 00:43:54,436 He explained that he was pressured and attacked by the police. 577 00:43:55,207 --> 00:43:58,382 He told me that they - it was not clear that they were the police chasing him. 578 00:43:58,382 --> 00:44:02,797 He thought that someone tried to attack him. 579 00:44:02,797 --> 00:44:05,914 He said that they beat him. 580 00:44:08,395 --> 00:44:15,406 It was only devastating. The idea of criminal prosecution of anyone in our family or anything 581 00:44:15,406 --> 00:44:18,358 It's so strange and incomprehensible, I don't know what to do. 582 00:44:18,409 --> 00:44:24,232 Well, they did a search warrant at Aaron's house, his apartment in Cambridge, in his office at Harvard. 583 00:44:27,972 --> 00:44:33,587 Two days before the arrest, the investigation exceeded the local Cambridge JSTOR and police. 584 00:44:33,964 --> 00:44:37,661 It was taken over by the US Secret Service. 585 00:44:38,061 --> 00:44:42,531 The Secret Service began investigating credit card fraud and computer in 1984, 586 00:44:42,807 --> 00:44:46,060 But six weeks after the 9/11 attacks, their roles expanded. 587 00:44:47,290 --> 00:44:49,363 [applause] 588 00:44:49,532 --> 00:44:56,061 589 00:44:56,791 --> 00:45:01,328 President Bush used the Patriot Act to build a network of what they call the "Electronic Crime Forces". 590 00:45:01,643 --> 00:45:06,580 The bill before I take into account the new realities and dangers posed by modern terrorists. 591 00:45:06,841 --> 00:45:11,169 According to the Secret Service, they are primarily engaged in activity with economic impact, 592 00:45:11,384 --> 00:45:15,866 organized criminal groups, or the use of schemes that involve new technology. 593 00:45:16,246 --> 00:45:18,722 There is a man in the U.S. lawyer's office. who has the title: 594 00:45:19,054 --> 00:45:21,895 "Computer Crime Division Head or Task Force" 595 00:45:22,179 --> 00:45:24,317 I don't know what he has done, 596 00:45:24,455 --> 00:45:29,477 but you are certainly not a person "Computer Crime Judge" without computer crime to be tried, 597 00:45:29,994 --> 00:45:35,095 So he jumps on it, then if for himself, does not assign it to someone else in the office or unit 598 00:45:35,564 --> 00:45:37,638 and that is Steve Heymann . 599 00:45:37,806 --> 00:45:41,896 Prosecutor Stephen Heymann has been largely out of public view since the arrest of Aaron Swartz, 600 00:45:41,896 --> 00:45:46,793 But he can be seen here, in an episode of the television show "American Greed", 601 00:45:46,793 --> 00:45:49,550 was filmed around the time of Aaron's arrest. 602 00:45:49,550 --> 00:45:53,378 He described the previous case against the famous hacker Alberto Gonzales, 603 00:45:53,652 --> 00:45:56,899 a case that gathered Heymann's attention and great appreciation. 604 00:45:57,273 --> 00:46:02,017 Gonzales masterminded the theft of more than one hundred million credit cards and ATM numbers, 605 00:46:02,209 --> 00:46:04,537 the biggest fraud in history. 606 00:46:04,852 --> 00:46:09,983 Here, Heymann, who describes Gonzales, gave his views about the hacker mindset : 607 00:46:10,263 --> 00:46:16,178 These people are driven by many of the same things we push. 608 00:46:16,515 --> 00:46:24,774 They have egos, they like challenges, and of course they like money and everything you can get with money. 609 00:46:25,134 --> 00:46:29,891 One of the suspects involved in the Gonzales case was a young hacker named Jonathan James. 610 00:46:30,254 --> 00:46:33,127 Believing Gonzalee's crime would be pinned on him, 611 00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:36,929 James did suicide during the investigation. 612 00:46:37,139 --> 00:46:40,865 In the initial press release describing the government's position in the case of Aaron Swartz, 613 00:46:41,115 --> 00:46:45,974 Boss Heymann, US Attorney for the Massachusetts District, Carmen Ortiz, said this: 614 00:46:46,521 --> 00:46:50,116 "Stealing is stealing, whether you use computer commands or crowbars, 615 00:46:50,116 --> 00:46:53,021 and whether you take documents, data, or dollars." 616 00:46:53,731 --> 00:46:55,587 That's not true. This is definitely not true. 617 00:46:56,037 --> 00:46:57,717 I'm not saying it's not dangerous, 618 00:46:58,487 --> 00:47:04,102 and I'm not saying that we shouldn't criminalize the theft of information, 619 00:47:04,318 --> 00:47:06,693 but you have to be far more smooth 620 00:47:09,063 --> 00:47:14,261 in trying to figure out what kind of danger is dangerous here. 621 00:47:14,897 --> 00:47:18,957 So the thing about crowbar is, every time I enter a place with a crowbar, 622 00:47:18,957 --> 00:47:21,768 I ruined There was no doubt about that. 623 00:47:21,768 --> 00:47:24,005 But when Aaron wrote a script that reads 624 00:47:24,206 --> 00:47:28,329 downloaded downloaded, one hundred times in seconds, 625 00:47:28,329 --> 00:47:31,047 Tidak ada kerusakan nyata pada siapa pun. 626 00:47:31,047 --> 00:47:36,148 If he does that to collect archives to do academic research on that, 627 00:47:36,211 --> 00:47:38,621 There is never any damage to anyone. 628 00:47:38,659 --> 00:47:42,925 He doesn't steal. He doesn't sell what he gets or give it. 629 00:47:42,925 --> 00:47:45,671 He is right, as far as I know. 630 00:47:45,671 --> 00:47:48,149 The arrest brings victims to Swartz. 631 00:47:48,230 --> 00:47:49,712 He does not want to talk about it. 632 00:47:49,819 --> 00:47:51,466 I mean, he is very stressed. 633 00:47:51,706 --> 00:47:56,424 If you think that the FBI will come to your door at any time, 634 00:47:56,424 --> 00:47:59,604 whenever you go down the hall, even to wash your clothes, 635 00:47:59,604 --> 00:48:03,170 and they will go into your apartment because you left the door unlocked, 636 00:48:03,170 --> 00:48:06,545 like... I will be very stressed, 637 00:48:06,545 --> 00:48:12,727 and it's clear, so Aaron is always like a mood. 638 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:24,093 He won't give sensitive information about his whereabouts all this time, 639 00:48:24,111 --> 00:48:28,345 Because he is very afraid of the FBI waiting for him. 640 00:48:31,445 --> 00:48:35,452 This is a time of social and political activism that has never existed before. 641 00:48:35,702 --> 00:48:41,811 Time Magazine will then be named, as their Person of the Year 2011, "The Protester". 642 00:48:42,348 --> 00:48:46,925 There is a sort of nest of hacker activity that is ongoing. 643 00:48:49,056 --> 00:48:53,442 WikiLeaks has released a pull of diplomatic cable, 644 00:48:53,907 --> 00:48:56,491 Manning has been captured at that time, 645 00:48:56,526 --> 00:48:59,933 It is unknown if he is the source of the leak. 646 00:49:00,586 --> 00:49:04,801 Anonymous, which is a kind of protest ensemble that 647 00:49:04,801 --> 00:49:07,129 has many hackers in its ranks, 648 00:49:07,834 --> 00:49:11,357 is going on various kinds. 649 00:49:11,745 --> 00:49:14,107 If you compare it to what it does, 650 00:49:14,107 --> 00:49:17,902 this item should be left behind for MIT and JSTOR to handle, 651 00:49:18,596 --> 00:49:22,048 in some kind of personal and professional problem. 652 00:49:22,395 --> 00:49:27,657 It should never get attention from the criminal system. 653 00:49:28,425 --> 00:49:31,870 That is not included there. 654 00:49:36,645 --> 00:49:39,720 Before he was charged, Swartz was offered a plea agreement 655 00:49:40,151 --> 00:49:43,230 which involved three months in prison, time in a halfway house, 656 00:49:43,230 --> 00:49:45,535 and one year of house arrest, 657 00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:48,006 all without using a computer. 658 00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:52,460 With that condition Swartz pleaded guilty to a crime. 659 00:49:52,806 --> 00:49:56,789 Here we are: we have no discovery, there is no evidence at all 660 00:49:57,075 --> 00:49:58,793 about what the government case is, 661 00:49:58,974 --> 00:50:01,821 p> 662 00:50:01,976 --> 00:50:05,464 and we have to make this very big decision 663 00:50:05,746 --> 00:50:09,732 where the lawyer encourages you to do this, 664 00:50:10,041 --> 00:50:13,360 the government gives you a request that cannot be negotiated, 665 00:50:13,617 --> 00:50:18,563 So whether you are guilty or not, you should take over the deal. 666 00:50:18,908 --> 00:50:20,940 Boston has its own Computer Crime Division, 667 00:50:21,315 --> 00:50:25,208 Many lawyers, maybe more lawyers than they need. 668 00:50:25,999 --> 00:50:30,664 So, you know, you can imagine all kinds of cases that will be very difficult to try, 669 00:50:30,737 --> 00:50:32,897 because you have some criminals in Russia, 670 00:50:33,261 --> 00:50:35,997 or you have some people in the company 671 00:50:36,254 --> 00:50:40,028 lawyers five hundred dollars or seven hundred dollars per hour 672 00:50:40,028 --> 00:50:43,856 sit against you, and then you have this case with this child, 673 00:50:44,156 --> 00:50:48,022 which is easy enough to prove that he did something, 674 00:50:48,049 --> 00:50:52,731 and he has marked himself as a troublemaker with the FBI, 675 00:50:52,837 --> 00:50:56,551 jadi mengapa tidak pergi sekuat yang Anda bisa melawan orang itu? 676 00:50:56,551 --> 00:50:59,714 This is good for you prosecutor. This is good for the Republic, 677 00:50:59,714 --> 00:51:02,242 Because you are fighting all types of terrorists. 678 00:51:02,631 --> 00:51:03,996 I'm very scared. 679 00:51:03,996 --> 00:51:06,053 I was very scared of my computer being confiscated. 680 00:51:06,053 --> 00:51:10,228 I was very afraid of going to jail because my computer was confiscated. 681 00:51:10,338 --> 00:51:15,293 I have confidential material from sources from my previous work on my laptop, 682 00:51:15,470 --> 00:51:20,517 and that, above all, my priority - is to keep my sources safe. 683 00:51:20,677 --> 00:51:25,220 I am very scared of what will happen to Ada. 684 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,764 Aaron told me they offer him an agreement, 685 00:51:28,136 --> 00:51:32,853 and he finally just says that he will accept it if I tell him, 686 00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:37,456 and I say - I really close by saying, "Take it." 687 00:51:37,673 --> 00:51:42,595 He has this - he has developed, like, serious political aspirations 688 00:51:42,731 --> 00:51:45,622 At the same time, between when, you know, 689 00:51:45,651 --> 00:51:51,218 At that time when he ended entrepreneurial start-up life, 690 00:51:51,406 --> 00:51:56,448 and started a new life that came to this political activism, 691 00:51:57,077 --> 00:52:03,834 and he just doesn't believe that he can continue his life with a crime. 692 00:52:04,180 --> 00:52:07,386 You know, he told me one day, we walked near the White House, 693 00:52:07,386 --> 00:52:12,379 and he said to me, "They don't let criminals work there." 694 00:52:17,801 --> 00:52:22,031 And you know he really is - he really wants it to be his life. 695 00:52:22,387 --> 00:52:25,440 He doesn't kill anyone . He doesn't hurt anyone. 696 00:52:25,784 --> 00:52:28,298 He doesn't, like, steal money. 697 00:52:28,489 --> 00:52:32,573 He doesn't do anything that seems very annoying, and... 698 00:52:34,793 --> 00:52:39,327 There is an idea that there is no reason that he should be labeled a criminal, 699 00:52:39,357 --> 00:52:42,892 and take the right to vote in many states 700 00:52:43,363 --> 00:52:45,807 to do what he does That's just too much. 701 00:52:45,807 --> 00:52:50,100 It makes sense for him to be fined a certain amount of money, 702 00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:54,467 or asked not to return to MIT again. 703 00:52:54,467 --> 00:52:59,454 But to be a criminal? Facing a prison sentence? 704 00:53:01,516 --> 00:53:04,063 Swartz refused the defense agreement. 705 00:53:04,342 --> 00:53:07,188

706 00:53:07,523 --> 00:53:12,457 Heymann multiplied his efforts. 707 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,667 Heymann kept pressing us at all levels. 708 00:53:15,988 --> 00:53:18,389 Even with physical evidence confiscated from Aaron 709 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,503 Acer computer hard drive and USB drive, 710 00:53:21,913 --> 00:53:24,847 prosecutors need proof of their motives. 711 00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:28,380 Why does Aaron Swartz download articles from JSTOR, 712 00:53:29,284 --> 00:53:32,167 and only what he plans with them? 713 00:53:32,709 --> 00:53:36,073 We don't really know if it's true intention 714 00:53:36,310 --> 00:53:43,068 because Aaron also has a history of doing projects where he will analyze giant data sets 715 00:53:43,314 --> 00:53:45,443 to learn interesting things about them. 716 00:53:45,746 --> 00:53:48,101 The best evidence for that is when he was at Stanford, 717 00:53:48,353 --> 00:53:53,037 he also downloaded the entire Westlaw legal database. 718 00:53:53,407 --> 00:53:55,948 In a project with Stanford law students, 719 00:53:56,115 --> 00:53:58,445 p> 720 00:53:58,676 --> 00:54:02,822 Swartz has downloaded the Westlaw legal database. 721 00:54:02,822 --> 00:54:04,534 He found a disturbing relationship between legal research funders 722 00:54:04,764 --> 00:54:08,097 and profitable results. 723 00:54:08,097 --> 00:54:11,698 He did extraordinary analysis for nonprofit companies 724 00:54:11,698 --> 00:54:15,517 gives money to law professors who write legal review articles 725 00:54:15,637 --> 00:54:19,391 So it's a very corrupt funding system, you know, vanity research. 726 00:54:19,441 --> 00:54:22,694 Swartz never releases Westlaw documents. 727 00:54:23,046 --> 00:54:25,599 In theory, he can do the same thing about databases JSTOR. 728 00:54:25,955 --> 00:54:27,679 It must be really fine. 729 00:54:27,916 --> 00:54:33,521 If he, on the other hand, intends to create competitive services to JSTOR, 730 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,887 Like , we will organize ourselves, you know, 731 00:54:36,075 --> 00:54:39,340 access to the Harvard Law Review and charge, you know, money for that, 732 00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:42,632 Then, okay, now it seems like a criminal offense 733 00:54:42,632 --> 00:54:45,044 because you are commercially trying to use this material, 734 00:54:45,044 --> 00:54:48,336 But it's a little crazy to imagine that that's what it's doing. 735 00:54:48,830 --> 00:54:54,196 So, but there is a middle case: well, what if he just tries free it for all developing countries? 736 00:54:54,356 --> 00:54:57,195 But depending on what he does, it creates a very different character 737 00:54:57,195 --> 00:55:00,728 how the law has to think about it. The government demands it 738 00:55:00,728 --> 00:55:03,666 as if it is a commercial criminal offense, 739 00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:06,853 like stealing a large number of credit card records, that it's a type of crime. 740 00:55:07,001 --> 00:55:10,383 I don't know what he will do with that database, 741 00:55:10,602 --> 00:55:13,845 But I heard from his friend whom Aaron had told him 742 00:55:14,014 --> 00:55:18,615 that he would analyze data for company funding evidence for climate change research 743 00:55:18,736 --> 00:55:24,212 that led to biased results, and I truly believed that. 744 00:55:25,322 --> 00:55:28,638 I was just told that Steve wanted to talk to me, 745 00:55:29,052 --> 00:55:32,968 and I thought maybe this was the way I could get out of this, 746 00:55:33,442 --> 00:55:35,138 hanya keluar dari situasi, 747 00:55:35,508 --> 00:55:38,197 and I do not want to live in fear because my computer was confiscated. 748 00:55:38,579 --> 00:55:42,889 I do not want to live in fear of being imprisoned for insulting court demands 749 00:55:42,889 --> 00:55:46,661 if they try to force me to decrypt my computer. 750 00:55:47,146 --> 00:55:50,546 When they came to me and said, "Steve wants to talk to you," 751 00:55:50,725 --> 00:55:52,856 that seems reasonable 752 00:55:53,209 --> 00:55:57,649 They offer Norton what is known as letter "Queen for the Day" or an offer. 753 00:55:57,796 --> 00:56:00,822 This allows the prosecutor to ask questions about Aaron's case. 754 00:56:01,131 --> 00:56:03,854 Norton will be given immunity from prosecution himself, 755 00:56:04,137 --> 00:56:06,564 for whatever information he revealed at the meeting. 756 00:56:06,787 --> 00:56:09,700 I didn't like it. I repeatedly told my lawyer 757 00:56:09,923 --> 00:56:13,972 that I don't... this looks suspicious, I don't like this, I don't want immunity, 758 00:56:14,211 --> 00:56:16,325 I don't need immunity, I don't do anything, 759 00:56:16,566 --> 00:56:19,008 But they are right really so tight that there are - 760 00:56:19,172 --> 00:56:21,898 they don't want me to meet with an immunity-free prosecutor. 761 00:56:22,144 --> 00:56:24,822 [Interviewer] But to be clear, this is the "Queen For A Day" deal, a offer. 762 00:56:24,822 --> 00:56:26,485 Correct, cover letter. 763 00:56:26,485 --> 00:56:30,350 - Where you basically submit information to them in exchange for protection from prosecution. 764 00:56:30,432 --> 00:56:35,713 -So, it does not submit information. That - at least that's not what I saw - 765 00:56:35,944 --> 00:56:38,298 was just discussing, conducting interviews with them. 766 00:56:38,329 --> 00:56:40,979 -Yah, mereka mengajukan pertanyaan ... -Mereka bertanya padaku. 767 00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:43,043 -and they can ask about whatever they want... -Right. 768 00:56:43,043 --> 00:56:45,565 - and whatever they learn... -I really... . 769 00:56:45,737 --> 00:56:49,983 -They can't ask you to be tried - Right, and I repeatedly try to get naked. 770 00:56:50,384 --> 00:56:53,448 I repeatedly - I repeatedly tried to reject the cover letter. 771 00:56:53,837 --> 00:56:56,640 I am sick I am pressured by my lawyer. 772 00:56:56,864 --> 00:56:59,723 I am confused. I did not do well at this time. 773 00:57:02,582 --> 00:57:05,442 I am I was depressed, and I was afraid, and I did not understand the situation in which I was. 774 00:57:05,855 --> 00:57:08,960 I do not know why I am in this situation. 775 00:57:09,329 --> 00:57:13,192 I did not do anything interesting, let alone wrong. 776 00:57:13,496 --> 00:57:15,365 We are out of our minds. 777 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:19,280 Aaron is obviously very confused about that. We are very confused about that. 778 00:57:19,361 --> 00:57:21,203 Aaron's lawyer was very confused about that. 779 00:57:21,414 --> 00:57:23,584 We tried to get Quinn to change the attorney. 780 00:57:23,997 --> 00:57:28,304 I was very unused to be in a room with a big, well-armed man, 781 00:57:28,304 --> 00:57:33,214 who kept saying that I was lying, and that I must have done something. 782 00:57:33,566 --> 00:57:36,871 I told them this was a prosecutor 783 00:57:37,177 --> 00:57:39,730 not a crime 784 00:57:40,763 --> 00:57:43,499 I told them that they were on the wrong side of history. 785 00:57:43,714 --> 00:57:47,262 I used that phrase. I said, "You are on the wrong side of history." 786 00:57:47,352 --> 00:57:52,297 And they looked bored. They didn't even look angry. They just looked bored, 787 00:57:52,460 --> 00:57:57,610 and it began to occur to me that we didn't have the same conversation. 788 00:57:57,610 --> 00:58:02,140 I mean, I told them a lot about, you know, why people download journal articles, 789 00:58:02,140 --> 00:58:05,973 and finally - I don't remember what's around - 790 00:58:05,973 --> 00:58:12,258 I mentioned that he had done this blog post, "Guerilla Open Access Manifesto". 791 00:58:12,749 --> 00:58:16,130 This is the "Guerrilla Open Access Manifesto", 792 00:58:16,496 --> 00:58:20,032 supposedly written in July 2008 in Italy. 793 00:58:20,673 --> 00:58:24,827 "Information is power. But like all forces, there are people who want to keep it for themselves." 794 00:58:25,276 --> 00:58:30,149 "The entire scientific and cultural heritage of the world, was published for centuries in books and journals, 795 00:58:30,149 --> 00:58:33,634 are increasingly digitized and locked by a handful of private companies. " 796 00:58:34,407 --> 00:58:38,320 " Meanwhile, those who have been locked don't stand still. " 797 00:58:38,408 --> 00:58:41,087 " You have sneak through the hole and climb the fence, 798 00:58:41,087 --> 00:58:44,633 free the information that is locked up by the publisher and share it with your friends. " 799 00:58:44,814 --> 00:58:47,812 " But all these actions continue in the darkness, hidden underground. " 800 00:58:48,088 --> 00:58:51,253 " This is called stealing or piracy, as if sharing that wealth of knowledge 801 00:58:51,253 --> 00:58:54,661 " moral equivalents plunder ships and kill crew. " 802 00:58:54,931 --> 00:58:57,449 " But sharing is immoral - this is a moral order. " 803 00:58:57,666 --> 00:59:01,248 " Only those who are blinded by greed refuse to let their friends make copies. " 804 00:59:01,719 --> 00:59:04,356 " There is no justice because it follows an unjust law. " 805 00:59:04,717 --> 00:59:08,413 " It is time to enter into the light and, in the great tradition of civil disobedience, 806 00:59:08,639 --> 00:59:11,710 expressed our rejection of the theft of this private public culture. " 807 00:59:12,645 --> 00:59:18,572 The manifest itself is allegedly written by four different people, and also edited by Norton. 808 00:59:18,572 --> 00:59:21,603 But Swartz has signed his name for it. 809 00:59:21,964 --> 00:59:28,395 After finishing, I went straight to Aaron and told him everything I remembered about it, 810 00:59:29,104 --> 00:59:32,411 and he became very angry 811 00:59:34,502 --> 00:59:37,669 and he became very angry 812 00:59:40,078 --> 00:59:45,366 p> 813 00:59:47,257 --> 00:59:49,639 The things I have done should not be added like that. 814 00:59:57,302 --> 01:00:00,162 I did not make a mistake, and everything was wrong, 815 01:00:00,789 --> 01:00:06,610 but I never... 816 01:00:06,610 --> 01:00:09,325 p> 817 01:00:09,325 --> 01:00:13,591 I'm still angry 818 01:00:15,210 --> 01:00:19,297 I'm still angry because you can try your best with these people to do the right thing, 819 01:00:19,991 --> 01:00:23,495 and they will change everything against you. 820 01:00:23,641 --> 01:00:25,947 And they will hurt you with whatever they can. 821 01:00:26,175 --> 01:00:28,012 That we are fine with the justice system, 822 01:00:28,012 --> 01:00:32,080 a system that tries to make game people become small traps so that it can destroy our lives. 823 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,178 So yes, I hope I don't say that. 824 01:00:35,585 --> 01:00:40,812 But I am far, far more angry because this is me. 825 01:00:42,891 --> 01:00:47,505 That this is what we, as humans, think is fine. 826 01:00:48,358 --> 01:00:52,187 They use every method that I think they can think of 827 01:00:52,542 --> 01:00:56,973 so that he provides information that won't help Aaron, 828 01:00:57,257 --> 01:01:00,169 and help prosecute Aaron, 829 01:01:00,584 --> 01:01:07,240 But I think he 830 01:01:08,259 --> 01:01:12,051 The moon passed, because Swartz's friends and family were waiting for the looming indictment. 831 01:01:12,572 --> 01:01:17,142 Meanwhile, Swartz became a go-to expert on a series of internet problems. 832 01:01:17,142 --> 01:01:19,826 [RT Interviewer]... the question to you later: Do you think the internet is something? 833 01:01:19,826 --> 01:01:25,166 that must be considered as a human right, and something that the government cannot take from you? 834 01:01:25,436 --> 01:01:30,454 Yes, of course, I mean the notion that national security is the reason to turn off the internet, 835 01:01:30,576 --> 01:01:34,017 That's what we heard in Egypt and Syria and all these other countries, 836 01:01:34,017 --> 01:01:38,679 and so, it's true, sites like WikiLeaks will put up some embarrassing material 837 01:01:38,728 --> 01:01:42,553 about what the US government is doing, and people will arrange to protest it, 838 01:01:42,553 --> 01:01:45,661 and try and change their government. You know, and that's good, 839 01:01:45,661 --> 01:01:50,290 That's what all the First Amendment Rights on freedom of expression, about freedom of association, 840 01:01:50,308 --> 01:01:55,134 and therefore the idea that we should try and close it which I think is contrary to the very basic American principle. 841 01:01:55,238 --> 01:01:58,133 A principle, in my opinion, is one that is definitely understood by our Founding Father. 842 01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,128 If the internet already exists at that time, 843 01:02:00,128 --> 01:02:03,265 instead of placing a "post office" in the Constitution, they will enter "ISP". 844 01:02:03,350 --> 01:02:05,901 [RT interviewer ] Well, it's definitely interesting to see how far... 845 01:02:05,965 --> 01:02:10,566 Swartz meets activist Taren Stinebrickner-Kauffman, and both start dating. 846 01:02:10,676 --> 01:02:12,599 [Aaron] We need global public protest big. 847 01:02:12,648 --> 01:02:15,165 [Taren] If there is no massive global public outcry, it will not cause any changes. 848 01:02:15,290 --> 01:02:18,541 -You know, four people in this city must cause public anger large global. 849 01:02:18,701 --> 01:02:21,952 -You know, we need a petition petition. 850 01:02:22,350 --> 01:02:25,809 Without telling specifically, he warned him that he was involved in something 851 01:02:25,809 --> 01:02:27,608 he only called "The Bad Thing". 852 01:02:27,903 --> 01:02:33,039 > 853 01:02:33,089 --> 01:02:37,890 And I have some kind of crazy theory, like, that he was having an affair with Elizabeth Warren or something. 854 01:02:38,284 --> 01:02:41,410 I speculated both Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren, actually, but... 855 01:02:41,814 --> 01:02:47,433 So, sometimes at the end of July, Aaron calls me, 856 01:02:47,433 --> 01:02:49,831 and I happen to pick up, and he says, "Bad Bad" might be on the news tomorrow. 857 01:02:49,831 --> 01:02:52,453 Do you want me to give know you, or do you want to read it on the news? " 858 01:02:53,433 --> 01:02:58,472 And I said," Well, I want you to tell me. " 859 01:02:58,490 --> 01:03:03,419 to download too many academic journal articles, and they want to make an example from me. " 860 01:03:04,329 --> 01:03:11,163 And I'm like," Is that it? Is that a big commotion? Is it true? That doesn't sound like a huge problem. " 861 01:03:11,225 --> 01:03:17,283 On July 14, 2011, the federal prosecutor charged Swartz with four criminal charges. 862 01:03:17,482 --> 01:03:24,174 He was charged the same day that two people in England which is part of LulzSec is captured, 863 01:03:24,634 --> 01:03:30,135 and some other real hackers. And Aaron is just someone who is somewhat like a hacker, 864 01:03:30,354 --> 01:03:34,917 enough that they can, you know, put his head on the pole and put it on the gate. 865 01:03:35,022 --> 01:03:37,882 Aaron went to surrender, and they caught him. 866 01:03:38,248 --> 01:03:41,990 They then stripped him looking for him, 867 01:03:42,548 --> 01:03:48,243 took his shoelace, took his belt, and leave it in isolation cell. 868 01:03:50,475 --> 01:03:54,247 The United States Massachusetts District Prosecutor's Office issued a statement 869 01:03:54,589 --> 01:03:57,832 saying, "Swartz faces a 35-year sentence, 870 01:03:54,053 --> 01:04:00,940 to be followed by three years of supervised release, 871 01:04:01,139 --> 01:04:05,002 restitution, confiscation and fine of up to one million dollars. " 872 01:04:06,786 --> 01:04:09,370 He was released with a guarantee of one hundred thousand dollars. 873 01:04:09,420 --> 01:04:12,330 On the same day, the main victim in this case, JSTOR, 874 01:04:12,738 --> 01:04:17,769 officially dropped all charges against Swartz, and refused to continue the case. 875 01:04:18,139 --> 01:04:21,575 JSTOR - they are not our friends; they are not helpful or friendly to us, 876 01:04:21,575 --> 01:04:25,595 But they also just like, "We are not part of this." 877 01:04:25,675 --> 01:04:30,490 JSTOR, and its parent company, ITHAKA, also ruled out requests to speak with this film. 878 01:04:30,868 --> 01:04:33,524 But at that time , they issued a statement saying, 879 01:04:33,718 --> 01:04:37,696 "The government's decision on whether to sue, not the JSTOR task." 880 01:04:38,497 --> 01:04:42,688 So, our belief that, with that, the case will end. 881 01:04:43,189 --> 01:04:48,230 That we should be able to make Steve Heymann drop this case, or solve it in a rational way. 882 01:04:48,654 --> 01:04:50,762 And the government refuses. 883 01:04:51,149 --> 01:04:52,856 [Narrator] Why? 884 01:04:55,808 --> 01:04:58,055 Well, because I think they want to make an example from Aaron, 885 01:04:58,369 --> 01:05:01,337 and they say they want - the reason why they don't want 886 01:05:01,538 --> 01:05:05,644 Move to demand a prison sentence and a prison sentence 887 01:05:05,849 --> 01:05:13,255 is that they want to use this case as case for prevention. They say that to us. 888 01:05:13,255 --> 01:05:15,199 [Interviewer] They say that? - Yes. 889 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:17,177 -This will be an example? -Yes. 890 01:05:17,263 --> 01:05:19,730 -He will be used as an example? - Yes. 891 01:05:20,145 --> 01:05:21,857 Steve Heymann said that. 892 01:05:22,170 --> 01:05:26,477 Whose deterring? There are other people out there running into JSTOR, 893 01:05:26,679 --> 01:05:30,167 and downloading articles to make political statements ? I mean, who are they rejecting? 894 01:05:30,374 --> 01:05:34,551 It will be easier to understand the Obama administration 895 01:05:34,597 --> 01:05:37,520 the posture that is supposed to be for prevention 896 01:05:37,771 --> 01:05:40,756 if this is administration which, for example, 897 01:05:40,845 --> 01:05:43,601 is claimed to be arguably the biggest economic crime 898 01:05:43,645 --> 01:05:45,527 that this country has seen in the past hundred years. 899 01:05:45,527 --> 01:05:49,630 The crimes committed caused a financial crisis on Wall Street. 900 01:05:50,101 --> 01:05:52,140 When you start applying 901 01:05:52,452 --> 01:05:56,329 Non-controversial antidote ideas 902 01:05:56,513 --> 01:05:58,254 are only selective 903 01:05:58,455 --> 01:06:01,909 You stop making a lawlessness analysis that impartial 904 01:06:02,128 --> 01:06:06,663 and you begin to decide to use law enforcement resources 905 01:06:06,902 --> 01:06:10,223 especially on the basis of political ideology, 906 01:06:10,410 --> 01:06:14,859 and it is not only undemocratic, it should not be American. 907 01:06:19,319 --> 01:06:24,382 Prosecutor Stephen Heymann later reportedly told an outside advisor to MIT 908 01:06:24,596 --> 01:06:27,317 that the straw that broke the camel back 909 01:06:27,317 --> 01:06:31,467 was a press release sent by an organization founded by Swartz called "Progress Requests ". 910 01:06:31,633 --> 01:06:35,853 According to the MIT account, Heymann reacted to a brief support statement, 911 01:06:36,050 --> 01:06:40,036 called it a" wild internet campaign "and" stupid step " 912 01:06:40,036 --> 01:06:44,326 that moved the case from level one to one to the institutional level. 913 01:06:44,486 --> 01:06:48,646 That is a toxic combination: prosecutors who don't want to lose face, 914 01:06:48,772 --> 01:06:53,464 Those who have political careers are offing, maybe, and don't want this to come back and haunt them. 915 01:06:53,617 --> 01:06:57,747 You spend how much tax money that catches someone for taking out too many books from the library, 916 01:06:58,019 --> 01:07:01,469 and then bring your ass to court? No way! 917 01:07:01,615 --> 01:07:05,839 I then moved to try to put as much pressure on MIT in various ways to get it 918 01:07:05,980 --> 01:07:10,739 to go to government, and asks the government to stop the prosecution. 919 01:07:11,472 --> 01:07:14,528 [Interviewer] What is MIT's reaction to that? 920 01:07:14,704 --> 01:07:19,304 There seems to be no reaction from MIT at that time. 921 01:07:23,131 --> 01:07:25,931 MIT doesn't defend Aaron 922 01:07:26,273 --> 01:07:30,583 which, for people in the MIT community, seems outrageous, 923 01:07:30,737 --> 01:07:35,667 karena MIT adalah tempat yang mendorong hacking dalam arti kata yang paling besar. 924 01:07:35,956 --> 01:07:41,126 At MIT, the idea of walking on roofs and tunnels that you are not allowed to enter 925 01:07:41,318 --> 01:07:46,538 Not just a travel rite, it is part of the MIT tour, 926 01:07:46,971 --> 01:07:51,071 and lockpicking is winter courses at MIT. 927 01:07:51,353 --> 01:07:55,753 They have the moral authority to stop it. 928 01:07:56,233 --> 01:08:02,073 MIT never stood up and took a position to tell the Fed, "Don't do this." 929 01:08:02,221 --> 01:08:06,407 "We don't want you to do this, you're too much, it's too strong." 930 01:08:06,407 --> 01:08:08,940 ... which I realize. 931 01:08:09,104 --> 01:08:14,474 They act like other corporations. > They sort of - they help the government, 932 01:08:14,706 --> 01:08:21,106 they don't help us, unless they feel they have to do it, and they never try to stop it. 933 01:08:22,547 --> 01:08:25,840 MIT rejects repeated requests to comment, 934 01:08:26,090 --> 01:08:30,380 but they later released a report saying that they were trying to maintain a neutrality position, 935 01:08:30,577 --> 01:08:36,076 and Heymann's trust and the U.S. Prosecutor's office. no matter what MIT thinks or says about this case. 936 01:08:36,252 --> 01:08:41,882 MIT's behavior seems very contrary to MIT's ethos. 937 01:08:42,168 --> 01:08:47,198 You can argue that MIT closed its eyes, and it's OK to do it , 938 01:08:47,389 --> 01:08:52,599 But taking that attitude - taking that neutral attitude, in and of itself - taking a pro-prosecutor's attitude. 939 01:08:52,846 --> 01:08:55,831 If you see Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, 940 01:08:55,831 --> 01:09:01,451 they started by selling the Blue Box, which was designed to deceive the telephone company. 941 01:09:01,628 --> 01:09:04,861 If you saw Bill Gates and Paul Allen, 942 01:09:05,150 --> 01:09:08,850 they initially started their business using computer time at Harvard, 943 01:09:09,011 --> 01:09:11,441 is quite clear against regulations. 944 01:09:11,602 --> 01:09:13,762 The difference between Aaron and the people I just mentioned 945 01:09:13,762 --> 01:09:17,952 is that Aaron wants to make the world a better place, he doesn't just want to make money. 946 01:09:18,985 --> 01:09:23,151 Swartz continues blatantly on various internet issues. 947 01:09:23,624 --> 01:09:28,869 You know, the reason the internet works is because of the competitive idea market, 948 01:09:29,001 --> 01:09:33,068 and what we need to focus on is getting more information about our government, more accessibility, 949 01:09:33,068 --> 01:09:38,484 more discussion, more debate, but it seems like the focus of the congress is to close everything. 950 01:09:38,970 --> 01:09:44,320 Aaron thinks he can change the world just by explaining the world very clearly to people. 951 01:09:44,638 --> 01:09:48,728 [RT Interviewer] Flame can really control your computer, and make him spy on you. 952 01:09:49,149 --> 01:09:52,519 Welcome, Aaron. It's nice to take you back to the show here. 953 01:09:52,519 --> 01:09:56,909 You know, like a spy who used to be in the old days, put up a microphone and touch what people say , 954 01:09:56,975 --> 01:09:59,735 now they use computers to do the same thing. 955 01:09:59,807 --> 01:10:01,896 [Narrator] Swartz's political activity continues, 956 01:10:01,936 --> 01:10:06,676 His attention turns to a law that moves through Congress designed to curb piracy online. 957 01:10:06,865 --> 01:10:08,709 It's called "SOPA". 958 01:10:09,054 --> 01:10:13,174 Activists like Peter Eckersley see it as a very large outreach, 959 01:10:13,264 --> 01:10:16,254 threaten the technical integrity of the internet itself. 960 01:10:16,351 --> 01:10:18,791 [Ekersley] And one of the first things I did was call Aaron. 961 01:10:18,829 --> 01:10:22,359 And I said, "Can we do a big online campaign against this?" 962 01:10:22,432 --> 01:10:24,982 "This is not a copyright bill." 963 01:10:25,136 --> 01:10:26,576 "This isn't it?" 964 01:10:26,658 --> 01:10:30,408 "No," he said, "this is a bill about the freedom to connect." 965 01:10:30,815 --> 01:10:32,475 Now I'm listening. 966 01:10:32,703 --> 01:10:36,113 And he thought about it for a while, then said, "Yes." 967 01:10:36,282 --> 01:10:38,752 And he went and set up a Progress Request. 968 01:10:38,838 --> 01:10:44,184 Request for Progress is an online activism organization, we have about one million and a half members now, 969 01:10:44,184 --> 01:10:47,231 but started in the fall of 2010. 970 01:10:47,422 --> 01:10:50,612 Aaron is one of the most prominent public figures 971 01:10:50,692 --> 01:10:55,780 who helped lead the organization around the issue of social justice at the federal level in this country. 972 01:10:55,930 --> 01:11:01,424 SOPA is a bill intended to limit online piracy of music and movies, 973 01:11:01,543 --> 01:11:06,993 But what it does basically brings a hammer to a problem that requires a scalpel. 974 01:11:07,161 --> 01:11:13,368 If passed, the law allows companies to deduct finance across websites without due process, 975 01:11:13,594 --> 01:11:16,834 or even force Google to exclude their links. 976 01:11:16,834 --> 01:11:21,173 All they need is one claims of copyright infringement. 977 01:11:21,173 --> 01:11:27,180 This pits traditional media titans against new remix cultures and is now much more sophisticated. 978 01:11:27,270 --> 01:11:30,490 It makes everyone who manages the website become a police officer, 979 01:11:30,687 --> 01:11:34,167 and if they don't do their job to ensure that no one on their site uses it for anything 980 01:11:34,299 --> 01:11:38,799 It's even potentially illegal, the entire site can be closed even without trial. 981 01:11:38,958 --> 01:11:43,728 This is above, I mean, this is a disaster. 982 01:11:43,941 --> 01:11:51,687 RUU ini menimbulkan ancaman serius terhadap pidato dan kebebasan sipil bagi semua orang yang menggunakan internet. 983 01:11:51,922 --> 01:11:55,614 There are only a handful of us who say, "Look, we're not for piracy either, 984 01:11:55,914 --> 01:12:00,517 but it doesn't make sense to destroy the internet architecture, 985 01:12:00,517 --> 01:12:05,557 domain name systems and so many make it free and open in the name of combat battles, 986 01:12:05,922 --> 01:12:08,022 and Aaron immediately get it. 987 01:12:08,117 --> 01:12:11,977 Freedom, guaranteed in our Constitution, freedom of our country has been built on 988 01:12:12,057 --> 01:12:14,497 will suddenly erased 989 01:12:14,679 --> 01:12:18,779 New technology, instead of bringing us greater freedom, will eliminate basic rights 990 01:12:18,821 --> 01:12:21,382 we always take it for granted. 991 01:12:21,492 --> 01:12:27,260 And I realized that day, talking to Peter, that I couldn't let that happen. 992 01:12:28,483 --> 01:12:33,508 Saat SOPA diperkenalkan pada bulan Oktober 2011, hal itu dianggap tak terelakkan. 993 01:12:33,715 --> 01:12:37,617 Our strategy, when I first came out, was to hopefully slow down the bill, 994 01:12:37,617 --> 01:12:41,797 It might weaken it a little but, even we 995 01:12:41,797 --> 01:12:44,828 don't think that we can stop this bill. 996 01:12:46,230 --> 01:12:52,025 p> 997 01:12:52,250 --> 01:12:57,822 After working in Washington, what you have learned is that, usually in Washington, 998 01:12:58,220 --> 01:13:02,223 legislative fighting is a fight between various monied corporate interests. 999 01:13:02,693 --> 01:13:07,143 They all argue to issue the law, and the closest fight 1000 01:13:07,363 --> 01:13:11,264 is when you have a set of corporate interests against a range of other corporate interests, 1001 01:13:11,437 --> 01:13:13,269 and they are financially equally matched in terms of campaign contributions and lobby. 1002 01:13:13,351 --> 01:13:16,413 That is the closest one. 1003 01:13:16,413 --> 01:13:20,676 where all the money is on one side, all companies are on one side, 1004 01:13:20,691 --> 01:13:23,603 and that is only millions of people on the other side. 1005 01:13:25,257 --> 01:13:30,369 I have never seen anything like PIPA and SOPA all my time in public service. 1006 01:13:30,676 --> 01:13:36,587 There are more than forty US senators regarding the bill as co-sponsors, 1007 01:13:36,860 --> 01:13:40,534 so they have been on a long journey 1008 01:13:40,534 --> 01:13:43,968 Sixty votes to erase all procedural bends. 1009 01:13:44,456 --> 01:13:47,603 Even I began to doubt myself. It was a difficult period. 1010 01:13:48,112 --> 01:13:53,381 Progress Swartz and Demand were able to gather a lot of support by using traditional outreach, 1011 01:13:53,605 --> 01:13:59,267 is combined with commonly used IP overrides, to make it easier for people to call Congress. 1012 01:14:00,011 --> 01:14:03,847 I have never met anyone else who can operate on its level 1013 01:14:03,847 --> 01:14:07,985 both on the technology side and on the promotion strategy side. 1014 01:14:08,867 --> 01:14:12,669 Millions of people contacted Congress and signed the anti-SOPA petition. 1015 01:14:12,948 --> 01:14:14,922 Congress was caught. 1016 01:14:15,251 --> 01:14:20,233 There something about watching Congress debate members who don't understand that, 1017 01:14:20,478 --> 01:14:22,897 Seeing them insisting they can manage the internet, 1018 01:14:23,070 --> 01:14:25,248 and a bunch of nerds can't stop it. 1019 01:14:25,248 --> 01:14:26,390 I'm not a bookworm. 1020 01:14:26,621 --> 01:14:28,084 I'm just not enough nerds... 1021 01:14:28,398 --> 01:14:31,120 Maybe we should ask some nerds what this really is. [laughter] 1022 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,413 Let's hear, bring nerds... 1023 01:14:33,413 --> 01:14:35,890 [laughter] 1024 01:14:35,890 --> 01:14:37,689 Very? 1025 01:14:37,719 --> 01:14:40,101 [laughter] 1030 01:14:47,275 --> 01:14:51,625 to enlighten you so that your law does not backfire [audience laughter and applause] 1031 01:14:51,625 --> 01:14:53,568 and internet pause. 1032 01:14:53,714 --> 01:14:57,033 We use the term "geek" but we are allowed to use it because we are weird people. 1033 01:14:57,329 --> 01:15:01,521 The fact that it got that far, without them talking to any technical expert, 1034 01:15:01,905 --> 01:15:04,839 reflects reality that there is a problem in this city. 1035 01:15:05,198 --> 01:15:12,138 I am looking for someone to come before this body, and testify in a trial and say, "This is why they are wrong." 1036 01:15:52,039 --> 01:15:15,421 There used to be an office that provided science and technology advice, 1037 01:15:15,741 --> 01:15:19,208 and members can come to them and say, "Help me understand X, Y, Z." 1038 01:15:19,208 --> 01:15:22,375 And Gingrich killed him. He said that a waste of money. 1040 01:15:26,529 --> 01:15:29,554 I don't think anyone thinks SOPA can be beaten, including Aaron. 1041 01:15:30,464 --> 01:15:34,113 It's worth a try, but it seems like it can't be won, 1042 01:15:34,810 --> 01:15:38,653 and I remember, maybe a few months later, I remember he just turned to me and became like, 1047 01:15:50,747 --> 01:15:54,902 tens of thousands of users switched their domain names in protest. 1048 01:15:55,272 --> 01:16:00,084 Within a week, The humble Go Daddy reverses their position at SOPA. 1049 01:16:00,376 --> 01:16:05,962 When congresses support the recording and film industries, 1050 01:16:06,383 --> 01:16:10,707 realize that there is a backlash, they reduce the bill a bit. 1051 01:16:10,879 --> 01:16:16,081 You can see the curve. You can see that our argument starts to resonate. 1052 01:16:16,357 --> 01:16:19,034 It feels like Aaron has hit a match and blown it out, 1053 01:16:19,034 --> 01:16:21,055 attacked the other, and it exploded, 1054 01:16:21,055 --> 01:16:24,645 and finally he managed to catch quite a lot of firewood that was actually caught, 1055 01:16:24,692 --> 01:16:27,590 and then turned into this roaring fire. 1056 01:16:27,820 --> 01:16:31,743 On January 16, 2012, the White House issued a statement 1057 01:16:31,743 --> 01:16:34,326 saying they did not support the bill. 1058 01:16:34,348 --> 01:16:36,603 And then this happened: 1059 01:16:36,662 --> 01:16:40,202 I really believe that we have to deal with the issue of piracy, 1060 01:16:40,202 --> 01:16:44,745 and we have to deal with them seriously, but this bill isn't the right bill. 1061 01:16:44,924 --> 01:16:48,965 When Jimmy Wales put his support for blackouts on Wikipedia, 1062 01:16:49,337 --> 01:16:52,520 number five most popular site in the world, 1063 01:16:52,849 --> 01:16:58,789 this is a website that seven percent of all clicks anywhere on the internet. 1064 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:00,089 Wikipedia is black. 1065 01:17:00,165 --> 01:17:01,141 > 1066 01:17:01,233 --> 01:17:03,221 Reddit goes black. 1067 01:17:03,340 --> 01:17:06,050 Craigslist goes black. 1068 01:17:06,179 --> 01:17:10,295 The telephone line on Capitol Hill is flat melting. 1069 01:17:10,815 --> 01:17:13,927 that they promoted just a few days ago. 1070 01:17:14,106 --> 01:17:17,698 Within 24 hours, the number of SOPA opponents in Congress 1071 01:17:17,853 --> 01:17:19,215 left this... 1072 01:17:19,457 --> 01:17:22,591 for this. 1073 01:17:22,796 --> 01:17:29,815 To see congressmen and senators slowly flipping through the day a power outage 1074 01:17:30,051 --> 01:17:31,825 is quite extraordinary. 1075 01:17:32,175 --> 01:17:35,210 There are like a hundred representative swings. 1076 01:17:35,378 --> 01:17:38,746 p> 1077 01:17:38,924 --> 01:17:40,756 And that's when, just as difficult for me to believe, after all this, 1078 01:17:41,049 --> 01:17:43,210 we have won 1079 01:17:43,459 --> 01:17:46,486 The thing that everyone says is impossible, 1080 01:17:46,779 --> 01:17:48,697 that some of the biggest companies in the world have written as a kind of piping, 1081 01:17:49,142 --> 01:17:50,467 has happened. 1082 01:17:50,933 --> 01:17:52,689 We succeed. 1083 01:17:55,945 --> 01:17:58,781 We win. 1084 01:17:59,081 --> 01:18:04,069 The things we hear from people in Washington, DC, from the staff on Capitol Hill are: 1085 01:18:04,478 --> 01:18:08,664 they receive more emails and more phone calls on SOPA Blackout Day 1086 01:18:08,908 --> 01:18:11,080 than they have ever received about anything. 1087 01:18:11,317 --> 01:18:13,224 I think it's a very exciting moment. 1088 01:18:13,397 --> 01:18:17,640 This is the time when the internet develops, politically. 1089 01:18:17,934 --> 01:18:21,463 It's very exciting because it's hard to believe that it really happened. 1090 01:18:21,658 --> 01:18:25,365 It's hard to believe a bill with so much financial power behind it 1091 01:18:25,679 --> 01:18:29,157 doesn't just sail through Congress. 1092 01:18:29,541 --> 01:18:32,167 And not only does it sail, it doesn't pass at all. 1093 01:18:34,153 --> 01:18:36,669 Sometimes it's easy to feel helpless, 1094 01:18:36,669 --> 01:18:40,524 like when you go out on the street and you line up and you scream and nobody hears you . 1095 01:18:40,889 --> 01:18:43,568 But I'm here to tell you today, you're strong. 1096 01:18:43,568 --> 01:18:46,295 [Crowd cheers] 1097 01:18:46,295 --> 01:18:50,936 So, yes, maybe sometimes you don't feel heard, but I'm here for tell you that you are right. 1098 01:18:50,976 --> 01:18:53,400 You are being listened to. You make a difference. 1099 01:18:53,588 --> 01:18:56,992 You can stop this bill if you don't stop fighting. 1100 01:18:57,132 --> 01:18:59,974 [Crowd cheers] 1101 01:19:00,049 --> 01:19:01,170 Stop PIPE. 1102 01:19:01,170 --> 01:19:02,916 Stop SOPA. 1104 01:19:04,182 --> 01:19:07,648 Some of the biggest internet companies, honestly, will benefit 1105 01:19:07,648 --> 01:19:11,219 from a world where their small competitors can be censored. 1106 01:19:12,519 --> 01:19:15,106 We can't let that happen. 1108 01:19:19,612 --> 01:19:23,271 rather than playing a small role in a big change. 1109 01:19:23,708 --> 01:19:28,187 But SOPA is like plays a major role in major changes, 1110 01:19:28,187 --> 01:19:30,753 And for him, that is some kind of proof of this concept 1111 01:19:30,753 --> 01:19:35,069 Like, "Okay, what I want to do with my life is to change the world." 1112 01:19:35,326 --> 01:19:39,471 "I think about it in a scientific way to measure my impact, 1113 01:19:39,725 --> 01:19:42,813 and this shows that it's possible. " 1114 01:19:43,081 --> 01:19:45,810 " The thing I want to do with my life is possible. " 1115 01:19:46,078 --> 01:19:48,763 " I have proven that I can do it, 1116 01:19:48,763 --> 01:19:50,999 that I am, Aaron Swartz can change the world. " 1117 01:19:51,090 --> 01:19:57,516 For a man who has never really thought he has done many things - which is Aaron - 1118 01:19:59,161 --> 01:20:04,115 is one of the few moments where you can really see 1119 01:20:04,115 --> 01:20:06,769 that he feels he has done something good, 1120 01:20:06,994 --> 01:20:11,836 feels like here is maybe one and only a round win. 1121 01:20:13,828 --> 01:20:16,060 Everyone says there's no way we can stop SOPA. 1122 01:20:16,194 --> 01:20:17,903 We stop it. 1123 01:20:17,997 --> 01:20:22,576 These are three very good wins, and this year isn't over yet. 1124 01:20:22,747 --> 01:20:26,257 I mean, if there is time to be positive, now. 1125 01:20:26,847 --> 01:20:29,700 You know, he won at SOPA a year after he was arrested. 1126 01:20:29,989 --> 01:20:33,529 This is not a happy time. There are many things that happen. 1127 01:20:33,813 --> 01:20:40,334 He is so aligned to participate in the political process, you cannot stop it. 1128 01:20:40,576 --> 01:20:44,521 The list of organizations established or founded by Swartz is very large, 1129 01:20:44,831 --> 01:20:48,074 and many years before Edward Snowden would expose extensive internet surveillance, 1130 01:20:48,402 --> 01:20:50,959 Swartz was worried. 1131 01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:55,200

1132 01:20:55,404 --> 01:20:59,777 It's surprising to think that accountability is very weak 1133 01:20:59,857 --> 01:21:03,863 And if the answer is: "Oh, we spy on so many people that we can't even count them again" 1134 01:21:04,186 --> 01:21:06,483 then there are lots of people. 1135 01:21:06,811 --> 01:21:10,063 That will be one thing if they say, "Look, we know the number of calls we are going through, 1136 01:21:10,063 --> 01:21:12,953 we don't know exactly how many real people are in line." 1137 01:21:13,050 --> 01:21:15,916 But they just returned and said, "We can't give you a number at all." 1138 01:21:16,229 --> 01:21:18,644 That's pretty - I mean, it's scary, as is. 1139 01:21:18,881 --> 01:21:25,502 And they put tremendous pressure on it, taking all the money he has produced. 1140 01:21:25,803 --> 01:21:29,538 They, you know, threaten to release his physical freedom. 1141 01:21:29,937 --> 01:21:33,788 Why do they do it, you know? I mean, well, why are they chasing a whistleblower? 1142 01:21:34,741 --> 01:21:38,813 You know why they are chasing people who tell the truth 1143 01:21:39,114 --> 01:21:46,122 about all kinds of things, I mean, from banks, wars, just some kind of government transparency. 1144 01:21:46,744 --> 01:21:49,776 So secrecy serves them who are in power, 1145 01:21:50,026 --> 01:21:55,097 and we live in an era of secrecy that coincides with the era where the government did, too, 1146 01:21:55,278 --> 01:21:58,410 many things may be illegal and unconstitutional. 1147 01:21:58,841 --> 01:22:01,941 So , those two things are not coincidences. 1148 01:22:02,154 --> 01:22:04,378 It is very clear that this technology has been developed 1149 01:22:04,731 --> 01:22:10,080 not for small countries abroad, but here, for use in the United States, by the government AS 1150 01:22:10,331 --> 01:22:14,351 The problem with spy programs is this long and slow expansion, you know, 1151 01:22:14,604 --> 01:22:17,124 Return to Nixon administration, right, 1152 01:22:17,319 --> 01:22:20,082 obviously it becomes big after 9/11 under George W. Bush, 1153 01:22:20,316 --> 01:22:23,536 and Obama continues to develop it, and the problem is slowly getting worse and worse, 1154 01:22:24,028 --> 01:22:27,553 But there's never been this time. You can show and say, 1155 01:22:27,701 --> 01:22:31,941 "Okay, we need to double the opposition of the day this is because today is an important moment... " 1156 01:22:32,455 --> 01:22:38,959 The prosecutor, according to my estimation of Aaron Swartz, is about sending a certain laserlike message 1157 01:22:39,363 --> 01:22:45,413 to a group of people whom the Obama administration considers threatening politically, 1158 01:22:47,341 --> 01:22:54,141 and in essence, hackers, information, and democratic activist communities, 1159 01:22:54,447 --> 01:22:59,702 and the message that the Obama administration wants to send to that particular community, 1160 01:22:59,905 --> 01:23:05,113 according I estimate, "We know you have the ability to create problems for the establishment, 1161 01:23:05,335 --> 01:23:08,677 and so we will try to make an example from Aaron Swartz 1162 01:23:08,977 --> 01:23:13,418 to scare as much as you can to not make that problem. " 1163 01:23:13,843 --> 01:23:17,160 And the government says," Oh, the legal opinion we use 1164 01:23:17,382 --> 01:23:20,453 To legalize spy programs is also classified, 1165 01:23:20,786 --> 01:23:23,666 so we can't even tell Which laws do we use to spy on you. " 1166 01:23:24,011 --> 01:23:26,461 You know, every time they can say," Oh, this is another example of cyberwar. 1167 01:23:26,685 --> 01:23:30,201 Cybercriminals attack us again. We are all in danger. We are all threatened. " 1168 01:23:30,510 --> 01:23:33,737 They use it as an excuse to encourage more dangerous laws. 1169 01:23:35,563 --> 01:23:40,388 [Interviewer] So just to follow - personally, how do you feel when fighting? 1170 01:23:40,947 --> 01:23:42,404 It's up to you! 1171 01:23:42,404 --> 01:23:46,264 -I know. It's just that we have to, you know... 1172 01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:52,738 You know, there are two polarization perspectives, right, 1173 01:23:52,936 --> 01:23:57,422 are all great, the internet has created all these freedoms and freedoms, and everything will be fantastic 1174 01:23:57,422 --> 01:23:59,093 or everything is terrible, 1175 01:23:59,093 --> 01:24:01,914 the internet has created all of these tools for cracking down and espionage, 1176 01:24:01,972 --> 01:24:03,762 and controls what we say. 1177 01:24:03,821 --> 01:24:05,700 And the problem is, both are correct, right? 1178 01:24:05,948 --> 01:24:10,040 The internet has done both, and both are amazing and amazing 1179 01:24:10,386 --> 01:24:13,287 and what will win in the long run is up to us. 1180 01:24:13,443 --> 01:24:17,244 It doesn't make sense to say, "Oh, one better than others. " You know, both are true. 1181 01:24:17,501 --> 01:24:21,097 And it is up to us which one we emphasize and which one we use 1182 01:24:21,233 --> 01:24:23,600 because they are both there, and they will always be there. 1183 01:24:28,950 --> 01:24:35,010 On September 12, 2012, federal prosecutors filed a superseding indictment against Swartz, 1184 01:24:35,010 --> 01:24:40,170 adding additional amounts of wire fraud, unauthorized access to computers, and computer fraud. 1185 01:24:40,825 --> 01:24:45,557 Now, over instead of four criminal charges, Swartz faced thirteen. 1186 01:24:45,882 --> 01:24:48,835 Prosecutorial leverage increased dramatically, 1187 01:24:49,043 --> 01:24:52,294 as well as the potential time and prison sentence of Swartz. 1188 01:24:52,294 --> 01:24:55,417 They filed charges separate to add more money, 1189 01:24:55,804 --> 01:25:01,526 and they have a theory about why this action is a number of federal crimes, 1190 01:25:01,899 --> 01:25:06,010 and very important sentences can be attached to it under the law. 1191 01:25:07,331 --> 01:25:10,426 That theory, and most of the prosecutors' case against Swartz 1192 01:25:10,904 --> 01:25:13,862 involves a law that was originally made in 1986. 1193 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,663 This is called "Computer Fraud and Abuse Act". 1194 01:25:16,996 --> 01:25:18,660 Computer Fraud and Abuse Act 1195 01:25:18,660 --> 01:25:22,261 Inspired by the movie "War Games" with Matthew Broderick - a great movie. 1196 01:25:22,478 --> 01:25:23,954 [Broderick] I have you now 1197 01:25:23,954 --> 01:25:27,895 In this film, a child gets the ability, through the magic of computer networks 1198 01:25:28,123 --> 01:25:30,456 to launch a nuclear attack. 1199 01:25:30,551 --> 01:25:33,561 [missile shots] 1200 01:25:33,761 --> 01:25:37,669 You know, it's actually not maybe, and certainly not possible in the 80s 1201 01:25:37,854 --> 01:25:41,954 But apparently this movie is quite frightening for Congress 1202 01:25:42,005 --> 01:25:44,965 passed the original Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. 1203 01:25:45,262 --> 01:25:48,711 This is the law right behind the times, for example, punishing 1204 01:25:49,431 --> 01:25:53,995 terms of service such as settings. You can have something like 1205 01:25:54,103 --> 01:26:01,111 eHarmony or Match.com, and someone reveals their own personal characteristics, 1206 01:26:01,409 --> 01:26:05,255 and suddenly, depending on the jurisdiction and prosecutor, 1207 01:26:05,503 --> 01:26:07,958 they can be in the whole problem. 1208 01:26:08,172 --> 01:26:10,263 We all know what the "Terms of Use" are. 1209 01:26:10,594 --> 01:26:14,214 Most people don't read it, but not according to their terms can mean 1210 01:26:14,438 --> 01:26:16,461 you committed a crime. 1211 01:26:16,727 --> 01:26:19,024 Website service requirements often say things like: 1212 01:26:19,272 --> 01:26:22,492 "Be kind to each other", or "Don't do anything that isn't right." 1213 01:26:22,789 --> 01:26:27,496 The idea that Criminal Law has something to do with this type of violation, 1214 01:26:27,668 --> 01:26:30,721 I think attacking most people as people crazy. 1215 01:26:30,938 --> 01:26:33,483 The example becomes more "crazy": 1216 01:26:33,864 --> 01:26:39,557 Until that time it was changed in March 2013, the Terms of Use on the Hearst & apos; s Seventeen 1217 01:26:39,884 --> 01:26:43,258 magazine site said that you must be eighteen years old to read it. 1218 01:26:43,327 --> 01:26:46,674 I would say that the CFAA method has been interpreted by the Department of Justice, 1220 01:26:49,589 --> 01:26:54,937 Rarely and prone to abuse, CFAA has become a hammer weighing one size 1221 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,012 for various computer related disputes. 1222 01:26:58,121 --> 01:27:00,408 Although not the only factor in the case, 1223 01:27:00,576 --> 01:27:04,935 eleven of the thirteen accusations against Swartz involved the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act. 1224 01:27:07,248 --> 01:27:11,465 "Why?" Questions /> hang up a lot of stories about Aaron Swartz. 1225 01:27:11,815 --> 01:27:16,045 Just what motivates the government, and what is their case? 1226 01:27:16,185 --> 01:27:19,945 The Department of Justice rejects an answer request, 1227 01:27:20,060 --> 01:27:23,660 But Professor Orin Kerr is a former prosecutor who has studied the case. 1228 01:27:24,084 --> 01:27:28,109 So, I think I faced this case in a different direction from others for a number of reasons: 1229 01:27:28,359 --> 01:27:31,303 I was a federal prosecutor in the Department of Justice for three years 1230 01:27:31,461 --> 01:27:34,191 before I started teaching. The government advanced 1231 01:27:34,191 --> 01:27:38,463 with charges based on what crimes they thought were committed, 1232 01:27:38,501 --> 01:27:42,176 just as a matter of pure lawyers, seeing precedents, seeing the laws, 1233 01:27:42,505 --> 01:27:45,778 Looking at history, seeing cases that are out there so far, 1234 01:27:45,974 --> 01:27:49,281 I think it's a fair charge based on that. 1235 01:27:49,526 --> 01:27:51,501 You can debate whether they should accuse this case. 1236 01:27:51,806 --> 01:27:56,825 There are only a lot of disputes. Some people are on the side of Open Access , some people don't. 1237 01:27:57,681 --> 01:28:03,108 I think the government took the Swartz "Guerilla Open Access Manifesto" very seriously, 1238 01:28:04,086 --> 01:28:09,706 and I think they see it as someone who is committed, as a moral command, 1239 01:28:10,059 --> 01:28:15,147 for breaking the law, for overcoming laws that Swartz thinks are unfair, 1240 01:28:15,332 --> 01:28:20,968 and in democracy, if you think the law is unfair, there are ways to change the law. 1241 01:28:21,140 --> 01:28:24,465 There will be a Congress because Swartz is very good at SOPA, 1242 01:28:24,662 --> 01:28:28,441 or you can violate the law by trying to cancel the law, 1243 01:28:28,834 --> 01:28:33,998 and I think what drives prosecution is the feeling that Swartz has committed, 1244 01:28:34,205 --> 01:28:39,691 not only to break the law, but to really ensure that the law is canceled. 1245 01:28:40,006 --> 01:28:43,890 That everyone will have access to the database in a way 1246 01:28:44,054 --> 01:28:47,129 You can't return toothpaste to the tube. 1247 01:28:47,368 --> 01:28:51,199 It will be done, and the Swartz team will win. 1248 01:28:52,815 --> 01:28:56,181 There is a big disagreement in the community, is that unjust law, 1249 01:28:56,470 --> 01:29:00,357 and finally, it is a decision for the American people to make, work through Congress. 1250 01:29:00,621 --> 01:29:03,547 And then the second problem is, I think, we are still trying to find out: 1251 01:29:03,752 --> 01:29:07,706 What the boundary between less serious violations and more serious violations? 1252 01:29:08,027 --> 01:29:12,317 We are now entering the computer environment and misuse of these different computers, 1253 01:29:12,556 --> 01:29:16,840 and we don't have a really strong feeling about what actually these lines are 1254 01:29:17,044 --> 01:29:19,277 because we only work that. 1255 01:29:19,650 --> 01:29:22,392 This is a bad use of prosecution policy. 1256 01:29:22,659 --> 01:29:25,891 Palu that the Ministry of Justice must frighten people 1257 01:29:25,998 --> 01:29:28,700 just becomes bigger and bigger and bigger, 1258 01:29:28,914 --> 01:29:33,111 And that's how most people - you know, you can't throw the dice with your life like that. 1259 01:29:33,340 --> 01:29:35,958 Should we knock someone's phone? Should we film them? 1260 01:29:36,111 --> 01:29:39,413 Should we turn someone over and make them testify against these other people? 1261 01:29:39,689 --> 01:29:42,366 That's how agents federal and prosecutors think. 1262 01:29:42,528 --> 01:29:44,974 They build cases. They make a case. 1263 01:29:46,918 --> 01:29:51,452 Swartz is caught in a feud of a brutal criminal justice system that cannot return, 1264 01:29:51,746 --> 01:29:57,193 a machine that has made America the highest level of detention in the world. 1265 01:29:57,571 --> 01:30:02,512 We in this country allow ourselves to be captured by the politics of fear and anger, 1266 01:30:02,905 --> 01:30:07,986 and whatever we fear, like the future of the internet and access, 1267 01:30:08,453 --> 01:30:13,233 and whatever we are angry at, instinctively creates criminal justice interventions, 1268 01:30:13,686 --> 01:30:18,924 dan kami telah menggunakan penjara, penjara, dan hukuman untuk menyelesaikan keseluruhan masalah 1269 01:30:19,220 --> 01:30:23,007 That, historically, has never been seen as a criminal justice problem. 1270 01:30:23,223 --> 01:30:28,583 The urge to threaten, accuse, prosecute, which is part of what 1271 01:30:28,792 --> 01:30:32,138 has created debate and controversy regarding access online and information on the internet, 1272 01:30:32,953 --> 01:30:35,706 is very consistent with what we have seen in other areas. 1273 01:30:35,928 --> 01:30:39,960 One of the differences is that people are usually targeted and victimized 1274 01:30:40,327 --> 01:30:45,901 With this kind of criminal and carceral response usually bad and minority. 1275 01:30:47,747 --> 01:30:50,860 Swartz isolation from friends and family increases. 1276 01:30:51,222 --> 01:30:53,503 He basically stops doing other things, 1277 01:30:53,548 --> 01:30:57,283 and this case, actually, took over his whole life. 1278 01:30:57,296 --> 01:31:02,457 One of Aaron's lawyers apparently told the prosecutor that he was very vulnerable to emotions, 1279 01:31:03,220 --> 01:31:07,333 and that is something they really need to remember so they know that. 1280 01:31:07,333 --> 01:31:09,578 It weighs heavily on him. 1281 01:31:09,820 --> 01:31:14,877 He does not like to do his actions and his movements are limited in any way , 1282 01:31:15,754 --> 01:31:20,902 and the threat of imprisonment, which they beat him with a lot, 1283 01:31:21,919 --> 01:31:23,931 Very frightening for him. 1284 01:31:23,931 --> 01:31:26,540 Really ran out of financial resouces, 1285 01:31:26,540 --> 01:31:32,178 and the price is expensive, and he collects a large amount of money, 1286 01:31:32,511 --> 01:31:36,481 So, you know, it costs millions of dollars. 1287 01:31:36,755 --> 01:31:38,551 [Interviewer] Legal defense? - Yes. 1288 01:31:38,551 --> 01:31:40,855 -In millions? - Yes. 1289 01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:43,995 I think he doesn't want to be a burden on people. 1290 01:31:44,252 --> 01:31:47,786 I think that is a factor like, "I have my normal life, 1291 01:31:48,166 --> 01:31:50,291 and then I have the bad things I have to face, 1292 01:31:50,452 --> 01:31:53,259 and I try to keep the two of them apart as possible, 1293 01:31:53,489 --> 01:31:57,484 But they just started to run away and everything becomes bad. " 1294 01:31:59,333 --> 01:32:02,686 Swartz faces difficult choices that are increasingly difficult: 1295 01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,149 Do you acknowledge your guilt and move on with your life, 1296 01:32:05,166 --> 01:32:07,458 or do you fight a broken system? 1298 01:32:09,651 --> 01:32:13,079 1299 01:32:13,300 --> 01:32:17,174 p> 1300 01:32:17,381 --> 01:32:21,639 He refused the final application agreement and the trial date was set. 1301 01:32:33,045 --> 01:32:34,912 Aaron firmly stated that he did not want to give up and accept something 1302 01:32:35,113 --> 01:32:38,758 that he did not believe it was fair, but I also think he's scared. 1303 01:32:38,977 --> 01:32:44,344 I don't think they will punish Aaron. 1304 01:32:45,752 --> 01:32:50,094 I really think we are right. I think we will win this case. 1305 01:32:50,094 --> 01:32:52,025 I think we can win this case. 1306 01:32:52,025 --> 01:32:54,611 He didn't talk about it much, but You can see it 1307 01:32:54,611 --> 01:32:57,548 The great pain he experienced. 1308 01:32:57,605 --> 01:33:01,749 [song] 1309 01:33:01,940 --> 01:33:05,106 There was no time in his childhood whether Aaron had severe mood changes 1310 01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:10,846 or depressive episodes or whatever I will describe as "severe depression" 1311 01:33:11,114 --> 01:33:13,962 and maybe, you know, he is depressed. People become depressed. 1312 01:33:14,155 --> 01:33:18,867 [music] 1313 01:33:19,112 --> 01:33:23,415 Very early in our relationship, three or four weeks or something, 1314 01:33:24,078 --> 01:33:26,730 I remember he said to me 1315 01:33:27,787 --> 01:33:30,711 that I was much stronger from him. 1316 01:33:30,947 --> 01:33:33,660 You know, he is fragile in many ways. 1317 01:33:33,830 --> 01:33:36,999 Things are far more difficult for him than many people. 1318 01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:39,810 That's also part of the brilliance. 1319 01:33:41,216 --> 01:33:46,909 I thought he might have clinical depression in his early twenties. 1320 01:33:47,228 --> 01:33:49,702 I don't think he did it when I was with him. 1321 01:33:49,971 --> 01:33:55,275 He's not a "fun" person, but different from depression. 1322 01:33:56,843 --> 01:34:01,616 He was under great pressure for two consecutive years. 1323 01:34:01,842 --> 01:34:04,193 He just didn't want to do it again. 1324 01:34:04,375 --> 01:34:07,729 He just didn't want to do it again. 1325 01:34:07,814 --> 01:34:14,503 p> 1326 01:34:14,571 --> 01:34:17,320 He just - I just thought that was too much. 1327 01:34:34,171 --> 01:34:23,091 [song] 1328 01:34:23,981 --> 01:34:29,059 I got a call late at night. 1329 01:34:29,247 --> 01:34:31,730 I know there are no went wrong, then I called, and I realized what had happened. 1330 01:34:31,828 --> 01:34:35,585 One of the founders of the social news and entertainment site "Reddit" was found dead. 1331 01:34:37,539 --> 01:34:46,506 I just think, we have lost one of the most creative thoughts of our generation. 1332 01:34:46,963 --> 01:34:51,096 I was like, the whole world fell apart at that time. 1333 01:34:57,082 --> 01:35:00,299 It was the hardest night in my life. 1334 01:35:00,548 --> 01:35:04,883 I just kept screaming, "I can't hear you, what are you saying? I can't hear you!" 1335 01:35:07,693 --> 01:35:09,240 I can't That's it. 1336 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,098 [Interviewer] Alright. 1337 01:35:16,408 --> 01:35:22,553 Yes, nothing makes sense, 1338 01:35:22,773 --> 01:35:25,180 and really still doesn't. 1339 01:35:25,180 --> 01:35:27,561 I am very frustrated, angry. 1340 01:35:32,652 --> 01:35:36,688 [exhale] 1341 01:35:38,217 --> 01:35:43,326 You know, I tried to explain it to my children. 1342 01:35:43,885 --> 01:35:47,198 My three-year-old son told me that the doctor would fix it . 1343 01:35:52,576 --> 01:35:56,826 I already know many people who have died, but I have never lost a person like this, 1344 01:35:56,984 --> 01:36:04,001 Because everyone feels, and me too, there are many things we can do - more is done like... 1345 01:36:05,102 --> 01:36:11,196 I just don't know he's there. I don't know this is what he suffered and... 1346 01:36:11,656 --> 01:36:14,375 He is part of me. 1347 01:36:16,585 --> 01:36:20,845 And I just want it not to be real, and then... 1348 01:36:25,105 --> 01:36:29,367 and then I only see the Wikipedia page and I see the end date: 1349 01:36:33,244 --> 01:36:35,761 "to 2013". 1350 01:36:50,710 --> 01:36:54,304 [quote on screen] 1351 01:37:14,958 --> 01:37:19,636 My first thought was : what if no one pays attention to it? 1352 01:37:19,636 --> 01:37:24,108 You know, because it's not clear to me how important he is. 1353 01:37:24,508 --> 01:37:30,060 I've never seen anything like the outpouring I saw. 1354 01:37:30,060 --> 01:37:32,116 Net only lights up. 1355 01:37:32,116 --> 01:37:37,677 Everyone tries to explain it in their own way, but I've never seen it 1356 01:37:38,281 --> 01:37:40,356 people mourn on Twitter before. 1357 01:37:40,356 --> 01:37:43,888 People seem to grieve online. 1358 01:37:46,552 --> 01:37:49,668 He is the internet child himself, 1359 01:37:50,115 --> 01:37:54,126 and the old world killed him. 1360 01:37:55,747 --> 01:38:01,316 We stand in the middle when great injustice is untouched. 1361 01:38:02,204 --> 01:38:06,564 Architects financially destroy dinner with the president, regularly. 1362 01:38:06,564 --> 01:38:12,989 In the middle of that time, the idea that this is what must be tried by the government, 1364 01:38:17,859 --> 01:38:23,643 The question is: Can we do something, remember what happened, 1365 01:38:23,643 --> 01:38:26,698 to make the world a better place, 1366 01:38:26,698 --> 01:38:28,817 and how can we continue that legacy? 1367 01:38:28,817 --> 01:38:32,284 That is the only question someone can ask. 1369 01:38:37,971 --> 01:38:43,578 Aaron Swartz, in some ways, brings the best of us, in an effort to say: 1370 01:38:44,044 --> 01:38:47,079 How do we fix it? 1371 01:38:47,994 --> 01:38:52,892 He, in my opinion, one of the true true revolutionaries 1372 01:38:52,892 --> 01:38:55,817 that this country has produced. 1373 01:38:55,817 --> 01:38:59,504 I don't know whether Aaron lost or won, 1374 01:38:59,715 --> 01:39:05,939 But we must be shaped by the hands of objects that are being held with him. 1375 01:39:06,089 --> 01:39:12,430 When we change the armed law agents to citizens who are trying to increase access to knowledge, 1377 01:39:17,344 --> 01:39:19,684 Aaron Swartz is not a criminal. 1379 01:39:21,756 --> 01:39:25,525 Changes aren't rolling on the wheel of necessity, 1380 01:39:25,525 --> 01:39:29,084 comes through constant struggle. 1381 01:39:30,316 --> 01:39:32,703 Aaron can really do magic, 1382 01:39:32,976 --> 01:39:36,308 and I am dedicated to make sure that the magic doesn't end with his death. 1384 01:39:40,780 --> 01:39:44,935 Exit last week, and come out of today, the phoenix has gone up. 1385 01:39:45,022 --> 01:39:46,728 [applause] 1386 01:39:46,978 --> 01:39:51,605 Since Swartz's death, Representative Zoe Lofgren and Senator Ron Wyden 1387 01:39:51,605 --> 01:39:55,509 has introduced a law that will change the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act - 1388 01:39:55,811 --> 01:40:00,563 obsolete laws that make up the majority of charges against Swartz. 1389 01:40:00,816 --> 01:40:03,511 This is called "Aaron's Law" . 1390 01:40:03,511 --> 01:40:07,310 Aaron believes that you really have to ask yourself all the time: 1391 01:40:07,310 --> 01:40:10,731 What is the most important thing I can do in the world today? 1392 01:40:10,940 --> 01:40:13,203 And if you don't do it, why not? 1393 01:40:13,203 --> 01:40:15,758 [Protesters] This is the form of democracy! 1394 01:40:15,758 --> 01:40:17,278 [People singing a lot] We are people too! 1395 01:40:17,278 --> 01:40:21,088 Freedom the internet is attacked, what are we doing? 1396 01:40:21,088 --> 01:40:22,814 Stand up, fight! 1397 01:40:22,814 --> 01:40:25,928 Freedom of the internet is attacked, what do we do? 1398 01:40:25,928 --> 01:40:30,929 Hey, hey! Ho, ho! NROC must go! 1399 01:40:33,740 --> 01:40:37,331 Saya berharap kita bisa mengubah masa lalu, tapi kita tidak bisa. 1400 01:40:37,331 --> 01:40:39,898 But we can change the future and we must do it. 1401 01:40:39,898 --> 01:40:44,107 We have to do it for Aaron, we must do it for ourselves. 1402 01:40:44,107 --> 01:40:48,797 We must do it to make our world become a better place, a more humane place, 1403 01:40:48,797 --> 01:40:54,179 a place where justice works, and access to knowledge becomes human rights. [applause] 1404 01:40:54,584 --> 01:41:01,741 So there is a person little boy, back in February, from Baltimore, fourteen, 1405 01:41:02,109 --> 01:41:08,448 who had access to JSTOR, and he had spalunking through JSTOR after reading something, 1406 01:41:08,506 --> 01:41:14,350 and he found a way to do an initial test for pancreatic cancer, 1407 01:41:14,876 --> 01:41:19,639 and pancreatic cancer kill your excrement because we detected it too late. 1408 01:41:19,639 --> 01:41:23,032 When we detect it, it's too late to do something about it, 1409 01:41:23,187 --> 01:41:29,080 and he e-mailed the entire department of oncology at Johns Hopkins, 1410 01:41:29,144 --> 01:41:32,368 you know hundreds of them, and every - - [Interviewer] Are you saying fourteen? 1411 01:41:35,379 --> 01:41:35,853 - A fourteen year old boy, yes, and most of them ignored it but one of them sent him an email back, 1412 01:41:35,853 --> 01:41:38,798 and said this was not a totally stupid idea, why didn't you come again? 1413 01:41:38,798 --> 01:41:43,470 This child works night and weekend with this researcher, and in February I heard it on the news 1414 01:41:43,470 --> 01:41:48,832 just a few weeks after Aaron died, when Aaron was delivered a lot... 1415 01:41:50,907 --> 01:41:53,005 Sorry... 1416 01:41:53,550 --> 01:41:59,550 and he said the reason why he heard the news because they had done it. They were sent 1417 01:42:00,152 --> 01:42:03,941 an initial test for cancer pancreas that will save lives, 1418 01:42:03,941 --> 01:42:09,917 and he said, "This is why what Aaron does is very important." 1419 01:42:10,453 --> 01:42:15,359 Because you never know, right? The truth of the universe is not just something 1420 01:42:15,359 --> 01:42:19,581 which policymakers use to find out, you know, what speed limit should be. 1421 01:42:19,581 --> 01:42:24,390 That's where things will make your child from death from pancreatic cancer come from, 1422 01:42:26,173 --> 01:42:31,391 and without access , someone who might find the item inside, 1423 01:42:32,692 --> 01:42:34,487 might never be able to find the answer 1424 01:42:36,267 --> 01:42:47,425 He fell asleep very well, he did not fall from [baby talk], even when he dreams of him returning to the spaceship. 1425 01:42:48,030 --> 01:42:51,805 [Father Aaron] Very good, Aaron. Very good. Yay, Aaron! 1426 01:42:51,805 --> 01:42:56,586 Okay, now it's time to sing. 1427 01:42:56,586 --> 01:43:18,326 ♪ ♪ ♪ 1428 01:43:19,385 --> 01:43:23,983 BBM: 2C05FBF1 LINE: FORTUNEBET99