1 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:16,960 This film contains strong language 2 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,600 When I remember something... 3 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,760 ... it's not just a kind of math machine in my head. 4 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:01,200 It is contaminated in terms of facts. 5 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,480 This mixes with desire, with fear. 6 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,720 Memory is a changeable thing. 7 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,080 Every Icelander knows about this case. 8 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,200 This is the biggest criminal case of the last century. 9 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:50,200 That's torture like that, Because I am a guilty person... 10 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:57,320 ... and I have never really connected with actual memory 11 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,160 of all that happens. 12 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:32,880 When I grew up in Reykjavik, it was a small town community. 13 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:37,760 It feels almost like a family because everyone is related. 14 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:47,680 In '74, there might be 220,000 people. 15 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:53,000 Iceland is a village, and you still know most people. 16 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,760 MUSIC PLAYS 17 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,400 We don't have a lot of experience from the outside world. 18 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,920 That is a safe community. 19 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,320 There are only a few crimes. 20 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,800 It is a state of innocence, very. 21 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,200 And the authority of is something everyone believes - 22 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,160 and newspapers, they don't lie - 23 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,320 and that's what people have here. 24 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,680 They trust everything as seen. 25 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,000 It's time here in Iceland where there are many changes, 26 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,240 and I remember my parents Generations are quite nervous 27 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,240 of what is happening on Earth... 28 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,280 and I feel like with a lot of people 29 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:10,400 it really happens understanding of life. 30 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:24,320 Hippies do not respect the rules, they do not respect the law. 31 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,760 People will smoke and discuss politics, 32 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,160 and I am soaking everything they say is like a sponge. 33 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:54,480 At these parties where everyone passes the pipe, there he - 34 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,480 and I wonder, "Who is this man?" 35 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,760 And someone said, "That's Saevar Ciesielski." 36 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,080 Saevar has a strange appearance, most definitely. 37 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,360 He has this black hair and he has these Slavic eyes - 38 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:14,840 and other things about him is he so mysterious. 39 00:06:14,840 --> 00:06:18,840 There is always this mythology around Ciesielski. 40 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:23,320 The story is he has this group thugs around him. 41 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:27,800 They come from damaged homes, they have left school early. 42 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,520 These children are in trouble from, basically, the day they are born. 43 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,840 LSD has entered the photo, and on one of these occasions, 44 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:46,320 this party is ongoing and we just drink Coke or something, 45 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,200 and then suddenly, 46 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,040 I start feeling like I am getting taller 47 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:56,000 until I realize I am really high on LSD. 48 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,120 So I started looking for corners, a place where I could hide... 49 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,080 ... and then I stumbled on something, and it's Saevar, 50 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:14,760 and then he told me someone had to put LSD in my drink. 51 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,560 So we will only hang with each other through this. 52 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,680 We talk about our view of life, the deepest pain, 53 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,280 all who are there to get to know each other. 54 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:39,240 I feel like I've met one of them the most extraordinary human ever... 55 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,920 ... and he feels the same way, you know. 56 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:53,480 After that night, there is nothing else how to get ahead but together. 57 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,240 Weather changes very fast here in Iceland. 58 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,640 Sometimes you have a sunny day in the morning, 59 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,880 but during the day you have thick snow. 60 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,320 Some people don't understand how fast the weather changes, 61 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,040 and get lost. 62 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,840 Gud retreated to disappear Saturday night, January 27... 63 00:09:53,520 --> 00:10:00,560 ... and on Tuesday, there is a big call for the rescue team to search. 64 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,560 There were around 200 people who saw, and we searched until dark. 65 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,960 At that time, no thoughts about this is a crime, 66 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,720 or something like that, because in days it happens very often 67 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,040 that people get lost in lava. 68 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:54,280 A pleasant summer. Good weather for weeks. 69 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,920 My family is very upset my relationship with Saevar, 70 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,720 because they have been told that he, you know, 71 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,200 a dangerous man Because he sells drugs... 72 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:24,720 ... and so I'm out of me relationship with my family 73 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,040 because of him, 74 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,320 and he really held me. 75 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:36,120 I feel special to be considered OK by him. 76 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,880 Saevar has this desire to do some kind of crime 77 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,880 that he will escape 78 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,920 and leave authority just tear their hair 79 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,600 because they can't prove anything. 80 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,120 When I'm working for a telephone company, 81 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,080 I came up with this embezzlement which we finally did. 82 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,560 What we have to do is tweak phone 83 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:08,680 to make it sound like us long distance calling. 84 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:15,040 I called the office where I worked and I said, "I have a postal order," 85 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,840 and it's processed, 86 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,640 and sent from there to the main the center of the post office... 87 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,920 ... and then I go to the post office 88 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,520 and I told them that I was here to pick up postal orders. 89 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,680 I am very scared. 90 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:40,520 I feel like, "I'll be found out." 91 00:12:55,560 --> 00:13:00,520 The amount we are darkening is just under one million krona... 92 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:10,560 ... and I became very confident that they would never know. 93 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:12,800 "Boys, will they be upset! 94 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,400 " We got them! " 95 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,440 The whole series of events 96 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,600 very mysterious 97 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,920 which we immediately thought about, 98 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,320 "This is an investigation into the murder." 99 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,360 Witnesses remember that a man came to the cafe 100 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,320 and he was asked to use the telephone. 101 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:11,440 It's around the same time Geirfinnur gets his phone call. 102 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,160 RING PHONE 103 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,120 Hello? 104 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,200 HE SPEAKS IN ICELANDIC 105 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,920 Ja? 106 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,680 He is a good person, has no enemies. 107 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,280 It's not like he disappeared like that. 108 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,640 There are search teams everywhere. 109 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Dogs, divers at the harbor, are all done. 110 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:11,840 An artist at Keflavik comes an idea to make clay sculptures 111 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:17,440 suspect, and the reaction is extraordinary in the whole community. 112 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,920 No bodies were found, so we were really on the empty end. 113 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,320 Very early, 114 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,480 I feel something happens here 115 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,160 it won't end well. 116 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Ah... And apparently, doesn't end well. 117 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:15,360 Our daughter was born here in Reykjavik 118 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:18,400 on September 24, 1975. 119 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:24,280 Saevar was present at birth, and was very excited. 120 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,560 After he was born, 121 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,400 I have one focus in my life, 122 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,040 and it becomes the perfect mother for this child. 123 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,680 I will sacrifice anything - 124 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:42,960 and I'm really upset Saevar's way of life at that time. 125 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,240 I told him, "I don't want this anymore. 126 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,520 " I just want to have a normal life during the day, nothing is hidden. " 127 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,400 I am 20 years old, and I am very naive. 128 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,720 Saevar and his friends are known by the police. imprisoned for petty crime, theft. 129 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:09,480 They are rude. 130 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:16,480 This is a group of evil children. 131 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,920 132 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,800 133 00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:37,800 When they come to arrest me, 134 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:43,040 they surround this big building as if they catch terrorists. 135 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,960 All I can do is call my sister. 136 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,240 So he came and took the baby. 137 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,680 I remember entering the car. 138 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,560 I catch a glimpse anywhere very scared... 139 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,520 and I remember trying to tell them 140 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,120 I can't be here for a long time, because the baby needs me. 141 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,240 They took me to this prison... 142 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,800 ... and then I was locked in in this cell. 143 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,000 The next day, they talked to me 144 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,200 and explained that I was now leaving would be detained for 30 days 145 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,960 for alleged fraud. 146 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,400 I just broke down and can't handle that reality. 147 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,120 What about the baby? 148 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,480 And then they send me back to my cell 149 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,520 and then leave me there for six days and nights. 150 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,560 During interrogation about embezzlement, 151 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,080 they told me that Saevar was very clear 152 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,680 that I have fully on myself doing that, 153 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,480 and they tell me, "You need to realize that Saevar 154 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,240 " Is a human who is really rotten to the point. 155 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,480 "There is no redemption for him." 156 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,480 I was really surprised 157 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,360 Saevar will betray me that way, 158 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:45,000 but he betrayed me in terms of other girls, 159 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,560 so it's easier for me to trust them. 160 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,160 Finally, I decided to tell them everything, 161 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,280 not just embezzlement, 162 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,640 but something illegal I realized. 163 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,160 And it's a relief! 164 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,320 That is the end of an era and the beginning of life. 165 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,680 These people really helped me. 166 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,520 And then one of them said, "Oh by the way, 167 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,800 "One more thing we want to ask you. 168 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,880 " Do you know a man by the name Gudmundur Einarsson? " 169 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,600 And then he showed me a photo. 170 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,960 I said," Yes, I have seen this person. 171 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,720 "Years ago at my boyfriend's house, he held a school party. 172 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,760 " I remember him because he was really a good man "- 173 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,240 and that's it. " 174 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,440 " Yes. Yes. I don't remember ever seeing it after that. " 175 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,320 THEY SPEAK IN ICELANDIC 176 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,880 During that time, I thought it was Erla who started telling them 177 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,800 178 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,880 about things that have happened the previous year. 179 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,040 It's a long question. 180 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,680 It's hours - 181 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,400 and during the whole process they are getting closer 182 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:30,760 to talk about weekends when this kid disappears. 183 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:36,000 Somehow it makes me tell those I have nightmares. 184 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,480 The night's weather is crazy. 185 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,280 It will howl like a wolf. 186 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:12,920 In an old house like that, you feel the house is moving. 187 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,600 Then I hear a few whispers. 188 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,880 There are many people beyond my window... 189 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,360 ... and these are rude people... 190 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:34,200 and I became aware that they whispered, 191 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,200 wonder whether I wake up or not. 192 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,280 I feel like I'm in this corner - I can't go anywhere... 193 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,160 ... and then I wake up. 194 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,760 After all these questions, 195 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,800 chief investigator bends and he says, 196 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,960 "Something terrible happened that night in that apartment, 197 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,120 " you watched it, 198 00:24:12,120 --> 00:24:15,760 "and you can't remember it because of the trauma that caused you. 199 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,400 " So what do we want to do now do you go back to your cell 200 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,360 "And you try as many as possible as you can remember, 201 00:24:22,360 --> 00:24:25,720 "and then we will return and talk about it again." 202 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,880 I remember lying there thinking about that night. 203 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,720 My head is full of photos... 204 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,720 ... and I wonder, 205 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,080 "That nightmare maybe something really happened?" 206 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,600 That I wake up... 207 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,480 ..got from the bed... 208 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,280 ... and see them. 209 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,320 I see Saevar and Kristjan and a third person I don't recognize, 210 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,600 bring something heavy. 211 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,000 I don't see what's on the sheet, but I'm sure it is the body. 212 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,080 I can't move. 213 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,560 I am cold, but at the same time I feel like sweating. 214 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,280 Later, Saevar took me by hand and put me to sleep. 215 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,600 I say I will go to deny everything. 216 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,360 Gudmundur disappeared in January '74, 217 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,760 and he made this confession December '75. 218 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,720 So it's been two years. 219 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,640 We look for the flat but there are there is not much evidence on the scene. 220 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,240 There is no DNA, nothing like that. 221 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,960 RING PHONE 222 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,320 Hello? 223 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,280 After I was released, they called me and they told me, 224 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,680 "We have questioned Saevar..." 225 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,720 Hm. 226 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,000 "... and we just want to tell you 227 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,320 " that his testimony is in line with you in detail. " 228 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,920 December 22, 1975. had called his friend Albert 229 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,040 and asked him to come in his father's car. 230 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:12,800 Half past eleven o'clock. 231 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,960 Kristjan called and he said, "They accused me of murder." Kristjan then met someone else, and something has happened. 232 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,840 233 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,360 234 00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:26,760 235 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,640 236 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:36,760 237 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,240 I can't remember clearly what happened that night... 238 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,360 .. I'm under the influence of alcohol... 239 00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,920 but everything I will tell you, I think I remember with certainty. 240 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,600 There is a fight in the apartment, and I'm sure I don't take part in it. 241 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,240 There are some contradictions, 242 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,720 I am sure between Kristjan and an anonymous man. 243 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,560 It was started by them cursing from each other, but ended up in a fight. 244 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:15,120 Then the man hit me and I thought I beat him, and he fell to the floor. 245 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,560 Then I see Saevar kick him in the head. 246 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:30,160 The next thing I remember is that Albert's car is at home. 247 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,920 Saevar, Kristjan, and Tryggvi approach the vehicle. 248 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,120 I see that all three are taken something that looks like a bag. 249 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,120 Saevar told me where to drive. 250 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,840 On the way back, Saevar and I discuss what is in the bag. 251 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,800 Saevar then clearly told me that it contained a corpse. 252 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,120 The police have told me that when they tried 253 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,200 to find out what has been done with the body, 254 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,600 they must cut everything into parts 255 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,800 and bring it in a plastic bag. 256 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,160 My mind really works, 257 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,200 and that feels to me like all this 258 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,880 has happened with me not at all aware, 259 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,920 and these people have become people butchers. 260 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,200 I imagine her when she holds a baby... 261 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,920 That smile is just acting, or... 262 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,520 Everything. 263 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,760 Everything becomes questionable. 264 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,680 The next thing that happened in early 1976. 265 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,800 The police are still investigating Saevar and Erla about Gudmundur. 266 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,920 They also mention Geirfinnur. 267 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,280 Police always stay related to me... 268 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:44,120 ... and with my social situation where I am very isolated, 269 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,680 this is the only friend in the world that I have, 270 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,360 and they become are very important to me... 271 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,040 and at some point, 272 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,680 talk starts The loss of Geirfinnur... 273 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,640 ... and he asks me point blank, 274 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,600 "Do you think that Saevar knows something 275 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,120 " about what happened to him? " 276 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,120 The thing about Geirfinnur is that it has never been found, 277 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,320 so it's suspicious from the start. 278 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,240 Then they start some rumors and some conspiracy theories. 279 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,440 There are all the rumors 280 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,840 that might exist connection 281 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,160 between the disappearances Geirfinnur 282 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,000 and people run certain discos. 283 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,080 There is always a lot of alcohol smuggled around it. 284 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,520 Rumors that some clubs 285 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,000 will get their alcohol from that source... 286 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:51,040 ..so, maybe this person Geirfinnur is trapped in smuggling. 287 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,480 We drive from the city and head to Keflavik. 288 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,240 Saevar holds my hand all the time, it seems he doesn't want to let go. 289 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,480 The car stops near the sea. 290 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,560 Basically, Geirfinnur has been hired to take large plastic containers 291 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,720 moderate alcohol is smuggled into the country... 292 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,320 ... and then there's a fight, 293 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,640 and he has died because of all that. 294 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,280 For Icelandic villages, 295 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,760 - You know, this is shocking. 296 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,320 That is the biggest story to be beaten by population for years. 297 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,480 Perception is that this is organized crime 298 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,160 tied to people in the highest places. 299 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,000 The gossip is like that Progressive Party 300 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,440 has been involved in all smuggling. 301 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,400 And the Progressive chairman Party is the Minister of Justice, 302 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,640 So this is a big scandal. 303 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,200 That's really the beginning... 304 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,840 I will call it public hysteria. 305 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:27,880 We have a killer gang among us, twice killer. 306 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,680 Where is the police? 307 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,400 How can this happen? 308 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,720 And of course in this case the community is close, 309 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:36,960 everyone talks about this. 310 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:43,400 What really happened in a society like this? 311 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,360 On the one hand, we lost our innocence, we lost our security - 312 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:53,880 and suddenly the big evil the world knocks on our door. 313 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:07,040 Then at the beginning of May '76, all of them suddenly all four men were released. 314 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,320 It turned out that the investigation did not produce anything. 315 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,760 Saevar and his gang, they write this story. 316 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,000 It takes a three-month police to find out this... 317 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,280 ... all time is a total lie. 318 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,560 During the summer of 1976, 319 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:34,000 I am a detective with the same thing forced to investigate these two cases. 320 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:39,120 What I see is that the police are under tremendous pressure to solve these cases. 321 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,000 The atmosphere is tense, like panic. 322 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,080 The message is communicated 323 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,040 are all these people, 324 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,960 they are playing games, they don't work together. 325 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,360 The police are in a very, very bad situation. 326 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,240 327 00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,480 Even after they confess kill Geirfinnur, 328 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,320 they still change their story about how he died... 329 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,240 ... and the police have no body. 330 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:26,080 They only have statements from these people. 331 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,080 HE SPLITS AT ICELANDIC 332 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,440 Saevar put a gun in my hand and stood next to me. 333 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,680 I am very close to that man that I can see his face. 334 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,040 He seems to be aware of what happened to him, 335 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,520 and there is panic in his eyes. 336 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,560 Investigations have taken place for a long time. 337 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,080 It doesn't seem to happen very well. 338 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,920 The police did not experience it a case like that. 339 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,920 I mean, two murders. 340 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,640 The public demands 341 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,280 that the police will come with a solution. 342 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,080 Find guilty people. 343 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,000 The minister of justice is increasingly worried. 344 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,200 He is responsible for for all, 345 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:44,680 so he uses his influence, and immediately after that, this person Schutz appears. 346 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,600 He is the head of West Germany security police. 347 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,400 We think, "Well, this seems, You know, the real McCoy." 348 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,520 Karl Schutz formed a task force from seven police officers, 349 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,800 and there are three translators, and investigating judges - 350 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,320 and he is a difficult task teacher. 351 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,560 The focus is very much, "We have to find the body." 352 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,760 There are very large numbers search 353 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,640 for Gudmundur and Geirfinnur corpses. 354 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,320 Karl Schutz spends several months studying this case 355 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,160 and try to understand it... 356 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:43,800 ... and he also interviewed suspects through an interpreter. 357 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,080 The focus is on who is the driver 358 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,160 who takes the gang to meet Geirfinnur. 359 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,840 They have to find someone who can drive a car, 360 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,160 and someone they all know, 361 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,480 and there I am. 362 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,320 Gudjon is different from the others. 363 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,080 He is older. 364 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:25,600 He is a man who is far more educated and he comes from a good background, 365 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,240 and he said he was there. 366 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,160 That is an acknowledgment used by to punish others. 367 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,800 The three of us fight with Geirfinnur 368 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,640 and that resulted in his death. 369 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,000 I don't remember his body put in a car, 370 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,240 but on the way back to Reykjavik, 371 00:40:01,240 --> 00:40:04,600 I remember Saevar saying that I was the accomplice of murder. 372 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,760 We move the body to Reykjavik - 373 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,880 of course bring it in another car 374 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,880 so it will never be found. 375 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,000 Erla waits while we bring the body to Land Rover and put him behind. 376 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,160 We then drive all the way to Raudholar. 377 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,040 We dug a hole into the red gravel large enough to fit the body. 378 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,600 The state radio calls the Prime Minister to get his reaction. 379 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,320 He says the nightmare is over. 380 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,400 The public only wants our blood. 381 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,360 There is so much pressure on the authorities to punish us all and make us very good, 382 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,440 and nobody really doesn't believe all this. 383 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,440 Now defendants have the opportunity to present their case, 384 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,800 385 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,040 386 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,800 and they do it. What they say is that they are innocent. 387 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,360 Lack of evidence, 388 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,200 no body, 389 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,160 and the whole case doesn't make sense - 390 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:12,320 but even so draws their testimony, 391 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:17,760 people believe they have killed the two men, the end of the story. 392 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,080 I am found guilty of embezzlement, of course, 393 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:28,680 and false oaths, I have deliberately framing innocent people 394 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,720 for something they don't do. 395 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:34,200 In the end, the police arrested him the right person in both cases. 396 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,680 Always with that feeling 397 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,120 that he is sort of a Demonic criminal, 398 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,520 and I should be 399 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,880 this is submissive but people are terrible, too. 400 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,120 The image we provided 401 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:02,040 very similar to Charles Manson and his girlfriend. 402 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,440 Minister of Justice thank you Karl Schutz 403 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,000 "to free Iceland nation of nightmares." 404 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:19,720 Of course, the Minister of Justice is assumed, the case is resolved. 405 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:24,200 What he did not say - "This is starting from endless nightmares, 406 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,200 " and this nightmare will still be today. " 407 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:38,280 I don't think I have clear thoughts over the years through all this. 408 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:46,360 I feel like sinking a lot of confusion and a lot of guilt. 409 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:54,600 Your mind can take over, and your mind becomes a monster. 410 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,000 "What do I remember... 411 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,480 "... and what is missing? I don't remember? " 412 00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:13,080 Memory is a changeable thing. 413 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,280 The day I leave, 414 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,720 what I can think of is, " My daughter is on the other side. " You know, to look right, 415 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,600 and you know, have the right thing to say... 416 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,640 ... and he has this bouquet flowers, and... 417 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:48,320 ... that is the day happiest ever. 418 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,400 419 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:03,200 When I am released, I am basically two things - 420 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,760 I provoke curiosity, and I am insulted... 421 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,720 ... and people feel free to express it, 422 00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:14,120 like spitting on my face. 423 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,600 The first time Saevar and I have ever talked about what happened... 424 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,280 .. it's really moments like that, like, 425 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,280 "What happened to us?" 426 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,800 You know, "What's that all?" 427 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,480 He experienced anger for years... 428 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,520 blame me for everything... 429 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,600 ... and I passed it incredible guilt 430 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,480 because it has testified against him. 431 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,760 There are many years where we can't... 432 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,680 connected, and that's very much has to do with, you know... 433 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:17,160 Our relationship has been attacked by by such dark powers. 434 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,920 It's very difficult to become Saevar Ciesielski here in Iceland, 435 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,960 in this small community. 436 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,760 He somehow becomes evil 437 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:48,080 for, like, I don't know, 90% of Icelanders. 438 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,880 Only evil incarnation. 439 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,520 When Saevar left prison, 440 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,480 he meets a girl, and they live together, 441 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,240 and they have two children, 442 00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:05,880 and they even moved to America. 443 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:13,000 We tried to move to Colorado, and just started a new one, you know, 444 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,240 family there, away from all this drama, 445 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,800 but he really can't let it go. 446 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,440 He wants to clear his name. 447 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,800 We decided to return to Iceland. 448 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,160 Then he starts... 449 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,480 ... you know, really trying to fight this case. 450 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,640 I collect information documents, 451 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,720 trying to understand What has happened, 452 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:40,120 proof of the case itself. 453 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,400 I see the shortcomings. 454 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,320 They are very clear. 455 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,600 Usually, in murder cases, 456 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,000 You have a place where is committed, 457 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,360 You have a body, you have a motive. 458 00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:01,480 They are not like that traditional evidence at all. 459 00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,440 They only have statements made by the defendant himself. 460 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,360 My legal argument is quite strict... 461 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,320 ... and the facts all support reopening this case. 462 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,720 I present all of this to the Supreme Court. 463 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,200 HAND PAPER 464 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,440 He had received a lot of support at that time. 465 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,120 People obviously don't believe 466 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,760 in the truth conclusions from the court. 467 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,440 I saw a lot of Saevar after he lost the battle. 468 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,840 He has placed all of his existence in this case, 469 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:24,240 and you know, where will he go from there? 470 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,600 I mean, in his world, there is no choice. 471 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:36,000 I always know something is really dark and bad 472 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,760 that happened to my father. 473 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,280 Many years and try to fight system, 474 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,320 and that, in the end, Just make it completely separate. 475 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,520 Many people know Saevar only from the streets. 476 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,280 He is a heavy drinker, a broken man. 477 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,720 He was a famous man at the time, 478 00:54:59,720 --> 00:55:02,880 and people soften towards him. 479 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,280 He still has this charm. 480 00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,960 He might be drunk and drugged, 481 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,680 but he always, or usually, keeps his charm. 482 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,360 But of course, is very, very sad. 483 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:56,720 He is really emotional in the end about all this, 484 00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:00,600 and it's quite difficult to see that happen, 485 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,600 You know, in slow motion in front of you. 486 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,600 Everyone follows Saevar Travel... 487 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:20,520 ... because he fought many battles to prove his innocence, 488 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,320 without results. 489 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,720 The funeral is held in the cathedral city center, 490 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,680 and it's really solid, 491 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,640 from street people to politicians. 492 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,520 When he dies, it hits the news. 493 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,480 Her relatives, Erla, and her children, 494 00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:59,880 going forward and talking about this case , talking about the battle, 495 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:07,400 and encourage that this case should be reopened and re-investigated. 496 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,480 That's when I thought maybe I had to do something about it. 497 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,960 As a reporter, when you see this case, 498 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:25,120 You are warned that you might step into a black hole - 499 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,840 and after you check it, you can't stop. 500 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:37,800 I have filmed several interviews with people related to this case, 501 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,320 and then I decided to speak to Tryggvi's widow. 502 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,400 My mother called me and said that there was this woman from the news 503 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:52,480 came to interview him regarding my father's case, 504 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,680 and ask if I want come and be with them. 505 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:06,200 There is something in my mind that says that this can be useful, 506 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:12,400 because I don't want my father to be remembered as a murderer. 507 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,680 When we arrived, her daughter was there, Kristin, 508 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:27,240 and he said, "I have something You might be interested. 509 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:32,480 " I have my father's diary from when he was in prison. " 510 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,320 I just want him to see them, 511 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:39,200 and I don't think that will happen more meaning than that. 512 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,160 I just want him to see something from my father. 513 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,040 A piece of him. 514 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:51,400 When he shows me a diary, there is a long title. 515 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,200 It reads, 516 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,400 "This is a diary of innocent people 517 00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:03,520 " Who is accused of being very serious things in a very serious case. " 518 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,120 " April 25, 1977 "So, now, I'm here continuously for 16 months 519 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,960 " and 11 days in custody, 520 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,760 "Including 14 months in isolation, really alone. 521 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:17,400 522 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,560 "I'll hold fast. 523 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,520 " I don't need to be afraid, 524 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,840 "Because I am innocent, and justice always wins in the end." 525 00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,840 I realized at that point... 526 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,520 ... we have something new. 527 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,600 We have something to report. 528 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,440 So, I think we should get it the opinion of a specialist. 529 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:58,280 Gisli Gudjonsson is a world leader expert on false confessions. 530 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:03,240 An Icelandic who has practiced in England for 40 years. 531 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:08,760 I was thinking, diary, they had to go to Gisli. 532 01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,840 He is the person. 533 01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,280 If anyone sees them, It must be... 534 01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,080 ... but I'm very nervous. 535 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,360 I am afraid that Gisli will say that... 536 01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,520 ... even though he wrote that he was innocent person, maybe he didn't. 537 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,000 I can't say it read a diary, 538 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,320 This man is innocent or not, because that is not for me to say - 539 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:43,800 but he stated his innocence and explained the reason, 540 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,080 and it is suggested that this is new material, 541 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,120 and I think the case must be reviewed. 542 01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:58,600 The implication is possible the acknowledgment is unreliable. 543 01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,880 I am very relieved. 544 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,680 That's the biggest spoon. 545 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:27,000 My story is broadcast, and it gets great attention - 546 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,920 and I think in the same week, 547 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,400 the ministry announces it investigation committee 548 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,400 will be established. 549 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,760 I decided to cancel the commission 550 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:43,640 to investigate the investigation, and the method used 551 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,440 under investigation, 552 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,240 and how this acknowledgment is obtained. 553 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,400 We pass thousands of pages. 554 01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,440 Police report, handwritten notes from the police, 555 01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,760 reports taken from prison guards. 556 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,120 It was quite clear when we saw into the prison diary 557 01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,360 many records are missing. 558 01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:23,080 Defendants do not have access to their lawyers, 559 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,880 and they are interrogated a lot, many times more often 560 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,480 than indicated by police reports. 561 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,200 Saevar, for example - 562 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:39,840 he has been questioned 180 times for 340 hours. 563 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:45,400 He is alone for 615 days. 564 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,240 Erla was interrogated 105 times. 565 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:03,840 Tryggvi is stored alone for the longest - 566 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,960 for a total of 655 days. 567 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:13,440 It becomes very clear to us many people everything becomes very wrong 568 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:14,840 under investigation. 569 01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,440 Key findings from the commission 570 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:46,720 is that this recognition 571 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,040 everything is possible. 572 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:55,120 People have acknowledged for something they did not do. 573 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,720 I have never handled a case, anywhere in the world, 574 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,280 where there are so many interrogations, 575 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,280 and long interrogations like that. 576 01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,560 This is amazing. 577 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:12,920 This is the only case I know where so many individuals 578 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,040 have their memories distorted so far. 579 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:23,640 Five out of six have what I call memory distrust syndrome. 580 01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:27,560 That person starts thinking, 581 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,920 "Maybe something happened, and I don't remember it." 582 01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,400 When I read the report, 583 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:40,560 I am really faced with how very unreliable memory. 584 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,080 "What do I remember..." 585 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,480 "... and what is missing I don't remember? 586 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,840 All of this starts with recognition... 587 01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,960 ... where Erla is below there is no pressure at all. 588 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,520 That's it who told them that they were involved 589 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,360 in the murder Gud back. 590 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,280 The police had explained 591 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:26,320 which often happens when people experience something 592 01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,720 that is too heavy to handle, 593 01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:33,360 they bury it somewhere, and they can't remember it... 594 01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:34,520 and they say, 595 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:39,080 "We know how to help you remember it You witness something bad." 596 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,480 They form a gap in my mind... 597 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:07,800 ... and then they go in there, and do it... 598 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,120 ... and that is my horror - 599 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,400 to deal with that possibility 600 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:33,360 Saevar will be forced to cut humans. 601 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:43,320 Through all these exchanges, this story comes out. 602 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,320 Almost like a genie, you know, or something - 603 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:52,360 and for a long time, I asked myself, "Who made the story?" 604 01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:58,280 Am I successful, or...? How is that, you know, happened? 605 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:01,880 At that time Erla was questioned... 606 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:08,240 ... in the case of Gudmundur, he is a very vulnerable person. 607 01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,360 Very likely that police officer 608 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,040 have, in their own minds, a scenario 609 01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:17,560 about what has happened to Gudmundur Einarsson, 610 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,840 and over time, 611 01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:23,880 Erla starts to believe that maybe Saevar and her friends 612 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,080 HAD is involved. 613 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,680 As soon as he starts expressing doubts in his own memory, 614 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,440 the police do it. 615 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:35,800 DOORBELL RINGS 616 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,880 Now, the police will come after me 617 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,600 about what happened to Geirfinnur. 618 01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,000 In one version, Saevar hit it with a wooden log, 619 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,640 next time, he kicked it in the head, 620 01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:02,480 and Kristjan have done it, and it's everywhere... 621 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,640 ... and then they have an warrant for my arrest. 622 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,240 At that time, I felt very guilty... 623 01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:28,640 ... and I am very responsible destroy the lives of many people... 624 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:36,600 ..that... it's not too much for me to accept it. 625 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:37,560 SUARA SHOTS 626 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,280 The police are confronted with with a big dilemma. 627 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:12,160 They have recognition, but they don't have substance. 628 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,360 There is nothing real that appears from the interrogation... 629 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:20,680 ... and the country wants answers. 630 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,400 what happened to Geirfinnur Einarsson? 631 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,200 To come to Sidumuli Prison, 632 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:42,600 when the Gudmundur and Geirfinnur cases start... 633 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,400 it's another world. 634 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,360 Atmosphere in Sidumuli 635 01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,080 very intense. 636 01:09:55,000 --> 01:10:01,120 Attitude among the guards and the police 637 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,240 are these people are killers. 638 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,760 The more pressure, the faster they confess. 639 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,120 The guards hate Saevar. 640 01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:17,960 They call him "rat." 641 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:26,440 One thing to destroy is to get rid of sleep. 642 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,560 There is light, day and night, 24 hours, 643 01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:35,400 and at night, 644 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:40,280 they will knock on the wall where he is inside. 645 01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:46,440 That is to keep him awake. 646 01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:48,200 AIR RUN 647 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,560 Saevar is afraid of water. 648 01:10:55,560 --> 01:11:02,440 They carry it, and sink it into the water... 649 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:11,360 ... and say they will drown it if he doesn't confess. 650 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:17,720 The guards who do it, they enjoy it and are proud of it, 651 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,800 and laugh about it, from "drowning a mouse." 652 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,280 This is a rough hand investigation. 653 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,640 This is heavy. 654 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,520 Albert Klahn went berserk in detention after a few days. 655 01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,040 Tryggvi Runar must be, after four nights without sleep, 656 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,080 anesthetized with an injection. 657 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,080 Kristjan Vidar tries to commit suicide twice. 658 01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:54,840 It destroys that core - your ability to really say, 659 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,760 "I know that doesn't happen." 660 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,960 After that is damaged, you are very vulnerable. 661 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,200 "There's nothing but to wait. 662 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,000 " Waiting for the next interrogation, wonder what I will say. 663 01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:15,560 "Inside the cell, I can't do anything but think. 664 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,080 " I grew up on the wall. 665 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:25,240 "I can't feel my body - I'm just the head." 666 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:38,640 There is an actual picture accepted by the court, 667 01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,040 where Kristjan Vidar is sort of enforcing 668 01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,280 what happened to Geirfinnur. 669 01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,680 This is what happened - there is a photo, 670 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,440 exactly how it happened. 671 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,000 After you apply something, you show how you do it, 672 01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:00,600 that might have a damaging effect 673 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:04,080 in the sense that it might strengthen that memory. 674 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,480 You start thinking it's really happening happens like that. 675 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,440 HE SPEAKS IN ICELANDIC 676 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:44,680 That's four times a day they carry pills that I have to drink, 677 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,040 and they all have one in common, 678 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,880 and that was before, they were calm. 679 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:57,520 I am not allowed to go out. 680 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,480 That's complete isolation. 681 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:09,240 Immediately, you shrink for this helpless baby. 682 01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,160 Your mentality and you intelligence... 683 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,480 everything just shrinks, 684 01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:18,000 and you are in this abstract world. 685 01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:33,240 You know, I really just... have to die... 686 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:35,200 but this one... 687 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,640 one tie, with a baby... 688 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,000 is a thing that isn't allow me to do that. 689 01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:47,520 When I think about it... 690 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,280 I can't imagine it. 691 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,200 I can't see his face... 692 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:55,920 and then I know I'm going crazy, 693 01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:00,520 and I even wondered, "Have I ever had a baby? 694 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,040 " Is that also my imagination? 695 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:08,000 "Because I can swear I feel what I did... 696 01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:09,680 " But no picture came. " 697 01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:34,840 Criminal police told him that to get out, 698 01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,040 he had to tell everything, 699 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,880 = = and therefore, he tells, informs, and notifies - 700 01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,720 is too much. 701 01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:50,440 This case is probably the first that the police feel pressure 702 01:15:50,440 --> 01:15:53,440 from the press and from the public. have the fact that these people are lost, they... 703 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:59,000 704 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:00,600 recognition, if you like, 705 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:04,280 some of those people have been involved in killing them... 706 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:10,400 ... but they always change stories about who did what. 707 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,880 HE SPEAKS IN GERMANY 708 01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:22,920 Karl Schutz was brought in by the Minister of Justice 709 01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:25,240 to harmonize recognition, 710 01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,920 and make them credible in the case of a legal court. 711 01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:35,120 He is very responsible, driving an investigation. 712 01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,200 Everything focused on proves that they are guilty. 713 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:45,720 Karl Schutz teaches Icelandic detective 714 01:16:45,720 --> 01:16:47,560 new ways to interrogate. 715 01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:53,240 Basically, it's involved come to the suspect 716 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:55,320 from various directions. 717 01:16:57,240 --> 01:16:59,400 They will jump from one time to another 718 01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,160 to trick them reveal the truth. 719 01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,240 Police suggest things - 720 01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:09,320 "Could it be this way, could it be like that?" 721 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:13,360 and the person persuades himself maybe he is present, 722 01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,360 and start believing it. 723 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,480 When Gudjon Skarphedinsson is captured, 724 01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:24,080 statement... 725 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:29,240 ... very important in closing the case. 726 01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:52,960 That's the same... 727 01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,040 ..routine, again and again. 728 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,880 Do we bury it somewhere or throw it in the ocean? 729 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,320 Where is the car? 730 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,320 Who else is involved? 731 01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:05,880 What are all these things about? 732 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,240 You are tired, 733 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:15,120 and you don't know if you dream or remember something. 734 01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:19,440 I am really confused. 735 01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:26,200 It comes like a clip from a movie into your mind. 736 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:48,520 In the end, you feel you have been there... 737 01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,560 ... that this really happened. 738 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,920 You wonder, "What else happened? I don't remember?" 739 01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,720 You can't trust your own mind. 740 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,760 It's like someone pulling the carpet from the bottom, 741 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,680 and you stand in thin air, 742 01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,880 and you don't know where the land is. 743 01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,480 From the start, is considered guilty. 744 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,800 It seems that no one is considering that possibility 745 01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,960 that these people might be innocent, 746 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:43,120 and they don't know What has happened 747 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,040 to Gudmundur and Geirfinnur. 748 01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:49,160 After the confession is taken, once in the air, 749 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:50,960 it destroys everything. 750 01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:58,960 My feeling is that the police are under a lot of pressure 751 01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:03,560 that once they are on this trip, and get off the track... 752 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,280 ... There is no return. 753 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,120 Rumors in Iceland 754 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,080 are all conspiracies by the police - 755 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,000 I told you it wasn't. 756 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:18,200 They are honest people trying to do their best, 757 01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:20,680 and they do the right thing. 758 01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:23,280 In the end, this is a prosecution system who must decide what to do 759 01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,360 with the results from the police investigation. 760 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,400 I think we are learning from this case. 761 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,560 We are looking for a mirror. 762 01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:36,480 When there is a miscarriage justice, life is destroyed. 763 01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:41,520 It is very important that the truth appears, 764 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:45,240 and that we correct the justice that has been committed. 765 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:49,040 This is a witch hunt it is a lot of harm. 766 01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:54,200 I remember saying to myself, 767 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,440 768 01:20:57,440 --> 01:21:02,880 "How can I be like that trapped in this public hysteria?" 769 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,320 And it's taken out... 770 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:08,440 bad things to people, you know? 771 01:21:08,440 --> 01:21:11,160 And that's what we did recover from. 772 01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:25,200 It's still difficult for me to see the photos. 773 01:21:27,240 --> 01:21:31,520 That's very painful to see this child, 774 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,840 because I am connected for what he experienced - 775 01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:38,640 but it's still not me. 776 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,520 Always someone else. 777 01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:49,600 And... it makes you so crazy, do you know?