1 00:00:07,602 --> 00:00:13,483 Shepard Fairey takes advantage of the idea that art can rival advertisements - 2 00:00:13,567 --> 00:00:16,320 so for me it's not art. 3 00:00:21,074 --> 00:00:26,038 - He is famous for his plagiarism - It's vandalism. 4 00:00:31,168 --> 00:00:35,172 He breaks important thoughts. - He is a genius. 5 00:00:35,255 --> 00:00:40,469 - He is charged with criminal behavior. P> 6 00:00:40,552 --> 00:00:44,514 It's all a very empty experience. P> 7 00:00:46,391 --> 00:00:49,436 - He is our current Warhol. He is predictable. P> 8 00:00:58,612 --> 00:01:03,950 - He has renewed the political image. - He is a wallpaper artist. P> 9 00:01:04,034 --> 00:01:08,538 - He has fewer and fewer followers. - He created an icon. P> 10 00:01:08,622 --> 00:01:13,210 André the Giant was a bluff number. It meant nothing. P> 11 00:01:18,131 --> 00:01:22,970 Shepard Fairey is so far from an artist you can come . 12 00:01:27,724 --> 00:01:34,648 The world is not as beautiful as in songs from The Carpenters and Wings. 13 00:01:34,731 --> 00:01:39,194 I grew up in the 70s, and when I felt frustrated - 14 00:01:39,277 --> 00:01:44,199 - there was no creative response to it. 15 00:01:46,743 --> 00:01:53,208 But When I heard Sex Pistols and The Clash singing about frustration... 16 00:01:53,291 --> 00:01:58,880 They were angry like the Black Flag, but it was not for the sake of the wound. 17 00:01:58,964 --> 00:02:06,305 Protest against conformity, oppression and abuse of power. P> 18 00:02:06,388 --> 00:02:12,769 It touched me because I grew up in a very conformist city - 19 00:02:12,853 --> 00:02:17,399 - and went on So I was frustrated. 20 00:02:17,482 --> 00:02:23,447 All that I did not get out of was expressed through punk rock - 21 00:02:23,530 --> 00:02:25,824 - but also through the skateboard 22 00:02:25,907 --> 00:02:31,121 It was about using the urban landscape in an alternative way - 23 00:02:31,204 --> 00:02:34,249 - and it's aggressive. 24 00:02:45,969 --> 00:02:51,266 I was inspired of tape posters and of graffiti. 25 00:02:51,350 --> 00:02:56,855 Graffiti is about letters and about spraying its name. 26 00:02:56,938 --> 00:03:01,818 - Colors, design, style and technique. - Release it. 27 00:03:01,902 --> 00:03:08,617
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The technique behind the graffiti -
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- one to perform their works
in wild places completely anonymously -
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- to say "I exist."
I loved it.
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- I'm looking for the graffiti artist.
- We are all! P>
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I had seen movies
like "Breakin & apos;" and "Beat Street".
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I thought you should be black
and join a gang -
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- and practice the paper before
could show it. A kind of art strap. P>
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Street art er et offentligt udtryk,
og det demokratiserer kunsten.
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It makes the art available,
and the public space is for more -
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- than just advertising
and government campaign signs.
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That means everything,
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This was especially true before the Internet,
for the recognition you received -
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- was based solely on the audience's first hand experience.
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- What do you set up?
- Some Giant posters.
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- Who is it?
- André the Giant. P>
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Why that? P>
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Today we receive André the Giant,
who is the world's largest man. P>
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Where Are you from André?
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Do you really speak English?
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Where do you come from?
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It does not concern you.
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My first work was "André the
Giant has a Posse" stickers.
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At that time, I worked
in a skateboard store -
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- and I
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I had to teach a friend
to make stencils.
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I saw a picture of André the Giant
and said to him, "Use it."
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He said, "No," and I replied:
"Andrés & pos; takes over."
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We listened much to Ice-T,
Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, NWA -
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- and all used word "posse".
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I made some stickers,
and it was supposed to be a joke.
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I put them up in the skate parks,
at some nightclubs and signs.
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For a party I saw a guy who had
put it on the front of his cap -
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I asked him:
"Does the sticker have a meaning?"
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- and I could see paint stains
so he had pilled it down. > He replied, "I do not know
but I think it's cool." P>
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I realized very fast,
that although it was completely silly -
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It was spreading,
and the affected people.
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What the hell are you doing?
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I had seen Bob Dobbs
Church of the SubGenius. P>
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A guy in the 50s with a pipe.
I wanted to know what that meant. P>
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I wanted to go to it.
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I could feel
that it would spread by like-minded people -
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- and that's the same with the André sticker.
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Men folk reagerede meget forskelligt.
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Someone wrote at the bottom
on a sticker: "Nazi wine."
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All painters, poets and musicians -
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- trying to catch attention.
This is the nature of art. P>
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"André the Giant has a posse" -
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- Did not mean anything.
It was just cool. P> p> There must be some sect.
There is no obvious sense of it.
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The word "posse" led the minds to the skater culture -
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- and young people who formed
music and art communities.
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But it also acted deeply -
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- how we unconsciously associate ourselves with flows.
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This is my propaganda.
Many people use models instead.
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It makes a product attractive by
connecting it with a beautiful person.
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Man gør et produkt attraktivt ved at
forbinde det med en smuk person.
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I do not want to be as clear.
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One day I stood in a store next to a couple -
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- and the girl says, "Have you seen
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"Yes," says the guy.
"What's this about?" she asks.
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"It's a band," but she says:
"No, it's something with skaters." P>
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"No, that's a band.
I've heard them."
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He simply found it.
It's fascinating -
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- People trust their instincts
and want to fight for their ideas.
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A newspaper in Providence printed an André sticker.
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They wrote: "Who knows
what the sticker is about -"
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- get free tickets for a concert
at The Living Room. "
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I saw Jane's Addiction,
The Ramones and Suicidal Tendencies.
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I wanted the tickets,
but I would not reveal myself -
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- So I put some in an envelope
along with a letter saying:
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"Sorry, I can not uncover it
but here you get some stickers. "
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The week after, the sticker came back
with my letter, and they wrote:
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" No one has answered, but now we know
how the handwriting looks
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In two weeks, the sticker was shown in 30,000 copies of the paper.
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It was 15 times more than on the street.
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It made me think
that the American media industry -
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- makes things seem more powerful and powerful -
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- and more relevant and more important
by making awareness.
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At that time I still went to college
and did school projects.
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I worked in the skate shop
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- and for the clothing branded
Jobless Anti-Work Wear.
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They were one of the first
street wear companies.
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One of my prints,
for which I received $ 50 -
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- they sold
for over ten thousand copies. P>
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It was the image from "The Shining ",
where Jack says," Here's Johnny. " P>
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I wrote" All work and no play makers
Jack a dull boy "on the typewriter -
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It got immediate success,
and that was great for me -
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- for then I realized that I was good at it.
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We knew he was artistic.
Our neighbor, who was an art teacher -
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- said: "He's incredibly gifted.
You should not teach him." <
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You want to destroy him.
Just let him develop it.
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My friends at Porter-Gaud did not belong
either they were cool or nerded.
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To be cool, you should be
sportfreak, and I did not.
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But I'd rather not be bored
like the nerds.
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You got hot if you had
Toughskins jeans and not Levi's -
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-or did not go with polo shirts. P>
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My parents refused categorically
to
I said, "I know that."
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But I needed to make money for that kind.
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I was forced to go
with a suit and tie at school -
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- but I rebelled using
my father's ugly 70er slip.
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They looked like someone had broken them.
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"I agree to wear tie
but they should be ugly."
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p> He had started skating and only wanted to make the things that he himself decided.
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I did not think anyone understood me
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We sat down and said to him:
"Okay, this does not work."
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p>
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"You will decide,
and we will allow you."
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He said he would be an artist -
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Instead of 14 minutes a day
he worked for 14 hours.
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He made a folder and entered
at the Rhode Island School of Design.
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In South Carolina, watercolors,
painted coal or oil paint -
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were the only approved art.
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But at the art school I learned about Jasper Johns. P>
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Duchamp and Rauschenberg. P>
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Andy Warhol and Barbara Kruger. P>
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And an unknown artist ,
who had posted posters -
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- with a picture of Ronald Reagan,
where there was "Contra" -
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- and "Diction" with bold letters on a yellow background, and I thought:
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"It's a message to Reagan
in line with Dead Kennedy's protests."
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clever and a little humorous,
but well painted. "
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I want people to think
and entertain them in everyday life.
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It just contained it all.
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Please. P>
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Robbie Conal's work was a turning point for me. P>
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Robbie Conal calls his art
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A guerrilla war is being outpoured.
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I just wanted to participate in the debate
about topics such as "democracy"
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I just put it up and hope that it gives substance for thought -
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- so people begin to think about who
who the old, ugly man is.
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It was deliberately illegal as a kind of civil disobedience.
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"It is the Iran-Contra affair
against my little offenses."
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"Just hold me
if you can find me."
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"Anhold mig bare,
hvis I kan finde mig."
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This was Providence -
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- before a new young mayor's visions prevented a complete decay.
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The young mayor was Buddy Cianci.
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I took an illustration course
in the fall of 1990 -
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- and I would do something special.
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On an advertising sign where you could see Cianci wow, stood there:
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"He really loves Providence."
I thought it was idiotic.
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There was nothing about his policy.
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p> Then I stuck his face
over with a big André image.
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Then I photographed it
and handed it as a task.
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I got to know that my advertising sign
on South Main Street -
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- was covered
by André the Giant sticker.
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You can not get a better advertisement .
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The day after, everyone came with beer to me.
They said, "Great! Cheers for you!"
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In addition, the press in Providence
was completely shocked by it -
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- because everyone tried
to get an opinion out of the sign.
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"Does Cianci mean brutal?"
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Only a few people actually knew
That's not about Cianci.
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But size is important.
So, stick from a sticker -
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- to a huge advertising sign
really put it in the debate.
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Cianci said, "It costs me money.
What should we do about it?"
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I do not know if he
But it seemed because we won the election.
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We are going back to the town hall!
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But I should take care not to conduct the
debate in an unwanted direction.
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I had not read
about the other politicians' views.
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If it had actually hurt Cianci,
which was not the case -
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have been crushed
over my carelessness.
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I realized I could not just
make things for my own pleasure.
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That kind of can have consequences.
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In the summer of 1990, I got a used
Caprice Classic with wood paneling -
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- like the Griswold family.
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It was not in very good condition, < br /> but I could drive to Boston.
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Then I started driving to New York.
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"Father's cool vacation."
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But they did not take my box
with stickers.
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I quickly started
to set stencils.
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The light poles were the perfect size
for a stencil template by André.
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I had a backpack
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and some glue to the stancil template.
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I put a lot of stencils up.
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I am
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If you are taken, be polite.
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I never considered
about my street Certain did not like it because it was illegal, and it annoyed me.
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Street art was not so popular.
It was illegal. was not as "real" -
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- or even subcultural rarely
such as graffiti.
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- eller lige så subkulturelt i sjælden
som for eksempel graffiti.
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Men Shepard imponerede
en masse skeptikere.
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People who thought that street art
was only for flippers of art.
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Alleged was the only gallery,
as exhibited works -
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Underground music, graffiti,
street art and skater culture.
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In the early 90's graffiti linked the hiphop culture
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Breakdance and Band Culture.
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Although there were skaters in New York,
it came from the west coast.
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The division in street art and graffiti
originated first -
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- when they joined together.
That's why it was an important time.
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When I met Shepard,
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But he impressed me
so he was allowed to exhibit with me -
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- and with Aaron Rose.
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Shepard did his best
to get works -
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- but it was still hobby work
and homemade things.
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He made stickers at that time, <
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- than all other young skaters
from the east coast at that time.
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But his marks were everywhere,
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I had posters and a manifesto that hung on the wall of the gallery.
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It describes many of my thoughts -
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- About group psychology
and conformance versus rebellion.
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Many of my ideas about art today
are found in this short manifesto -
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wrote as a 20 year old.
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Many artists attempted to break down the visual language -
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- and undermine persuasion.
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Artists like Thomas Campbell,
Phil Frost, Mike Mills and Futura...
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They were important people
on New York's art scene.
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If I could get a seat there,
I could possibly live by it.
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I went out of school
and I struggled to survive.
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My parents were constantly following me
to find a "real" job. P>
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I drove a small workshop -
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- where I made my stuff
and things for bands did not go well.
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But the attention of people
in New York made me believe in it.
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In spite of André the Giant, I was
Completely uninterrupted in wrestling.
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I did it just by some kind...
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You may call it
for a creative strike.
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But to use a reference,
as people associate with one thing -
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- and use it for something else
is provocative and I love it.
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Gradually, you could sense
some kind of fear of images -
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- as if it were a fine
or something to be afraid of.
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So I decided to use -
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- an orwell image language
a la "big brother see you".
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To maintain the energy of my art
I created
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It was a completely symmetrical, cropped -
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- and very stylized version
of the André face.
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Then I did the face of the star,
and it got an incredible resonance.
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This is pure propaganda.
"Do what you want and take drugs."
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"Det kan vi lide,
for vi er satanister."
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"I can see a pentagram."
"It's Russian or Chinese."
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"No, it is guaranteed Illuminati."
We have stars on our flag .
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But the face and the red color are
Satanic or Communist.
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When I drove my website
andrethegiant.com, people wrote:
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"Why do you spoil our hero with your communist symbols?"
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"You mock a great athlete."
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I said, "I apologize .
I'm dropping it. But André is cool. "
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Experience taught me that I could not make André stickers -
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- In a commercial
Because it's a copyright violation.
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- They were too processed
to break copyright.
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For a while, I was inspired by Russian constructivism.
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It's simple lines and colors
with exclamation marks and arrows.
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It's a rather daring style
with dramatic angles.
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In about the same period -
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- I watched the random movie "They Live" by John Carpenter.
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The main role "Rowdy" is played
by former Roddy Piper -
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- so there was a connection
to André the Giant.
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The history of the film is
Worldwide -
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- is controlled by a power of
You look like an old cheese pie.
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I thought it was miserable,
because it cost a dollar in rent -
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- but it has a pretty deep message.
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-men den har et ret dybt budskab.
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Here is one who can see!
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You must be aware of what
takes place behind the scenes.
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There is manipulation and an undertone
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When Roddy Piper takes on the sunglasses for the first time -
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- he looks at the advertising signs
where it's usually used to stand
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Instead, there is "Consumption", "Getting Children," "Submissing you," "Adlyd".
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The word "Obey" in the film Barbara Barbara's characteristics -
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- so the scenography was clearly inspired by her.
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I thought of George Orwell's "1984"
and at Barbara Kruger -
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- and then it struck me: What do we
make people very unconsciously
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- As we rebel, when we get
ordered it in conscious state?
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To obey.
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My very first "Obey" work was <
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- with a red stripe at the bottom,
where there was "Obey" in Futura.
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Later I used the same
I've used since 1996.
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I began to use the word "Obey"
much more often than "Giant" -
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- for I was fascinated by people's reactions to the word "Obey."
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I ask people: "What do you think? I,
that means "and they answer:
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" I do not know. What does that mean? "
" No, what do you think? " P>
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Sometimes people get very crazy.
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Nogle gange bliver folk meget gale.
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It's as annoying as to interpret poetry or abstract art.
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They get mad because they are bothered
by their own explanation.
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It may be wrong
according to the "experts" in the field. P>
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I had started working
as a graphic designer in San Diego. P>
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I ate at a Mexican place,
whose logo was a cow and a pig -
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- with aprons and meats,
as if they wanted to eat each other.
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But they were also best friends,
and I thought that was weird.
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I had moved back to town
and I ran into Damon Bell -
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He invited me to lunch
at his office -
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- and I told him
to a tacor restaurant.
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Your logo was a pig and a cow
with aprons and cookware -
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- and with kisses in hand,
as if they would eat each other.
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p> Just when I said,
Shepard came round the corner -
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- with an extra large soda
with just the logo on.
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Amanda commented on it.
"It's the new place."
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"Your logo is really weird."
Then I was sold.
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I did not know, who he was.
He just looked like a sweet skater.
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But I was with someone else.
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When she had gone
Damon came to me and said:
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"She's cute, do not forget?
Because she's with Mirko."
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When I heard, I thought that I had no chances.
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Afterwards, we often met in the center
because I lived there and he worked.
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We became pretty good friends.
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Apparently
obviously did not work well with Mirko.
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One night where I stood
and played Billiard at a cafe -
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- Then she came in to read
and drink a cup of coffee.
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We slam a little and I said:
" I did not come here to read. " P>
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" I came to see you. "
He said," Now? " P>
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I'm not very directly < br /> so I was glad she said it.
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"Here you have my number,
if you want to do something."
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I called but he did not answer
so I called a little later.
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Still No Answer.
I called enough five times.
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I had seven calls from Amanda.
"Super. She likes me."
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I knew he was an artist -
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- but I had not seen his sticker campaign.
We had been on a date
and had wallpaper stickers in the car -
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- so I posted some posters on a wall to a building site.
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Suddenly I noticed
there was a lot of faces everywhere.
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Her friend said,
"It's Shepard, him who you see."
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I asked him, "Is that you?"
He admitted. P>
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He decorated my neighborhood. P>
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I did not really understand.
"Do you want us to obey?" P>
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But then I heard his explanation for "Obey" -
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Men så hørte jeg
hans forklaring til "Obey"-
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- and it's actually
about opening my eyes.
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When I met Amanda,
I got a traveling companion.
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She was also a good partner.
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We started to travel together,
and almost every time we were somewhere -
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- he'd been there before
and there were left of his works.
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She joined San Francisco,
Tokyo and Hong Kong.
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When we could afford
we went on a cheap hotel -
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- posted posters all night
and ate brunch the next day.
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We were a bit like Bonnie and Clyde.
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He asked me never keep looking
but it was hard to leave.
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I saw the police. Hurry up. P>
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Amanda thought it was fun
and tied us together. P>
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Give me a smile, darling.
- What?
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The cute white legs.
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I would also post posters,
but I was nervous -
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- so I just threw them on the wall.
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I thought:
"I will not go back and fix it." P>
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It looks great. P>
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She did not mind putting
posters with me at the beginning.
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But then I was arrested.
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People do not think it's anything special,
Before it actually happens to them.
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Keep your hands out in front of you.
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You can not always make a call
or drink or go to the bathroom.
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The handcuffs are too tight.
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- What did you put up?
- Art.
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- Graffiti?
- A poster for exhibition.
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Give me the other hand.
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I have been denied my insulin in the prison four times -
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- and twice I became very ill.
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He had told me
about his sugar sickness -
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when I asked him to take care.
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Because... he could actually die.
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When I was arrested in Philadelphia,
I said to a guard:
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"I have diabetes,
and I have to take insulin."
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"I can get very sick."
He pretended he did not see me. P>
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Finally he came to the cell,
and when he opened the door -
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- I stood up and said P>
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As soon as the door went up
I got a blow on my face. P>
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He closed the door and said:
"Hold your mouth or it gets worse."
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When I picked him up the next morning,
he went to sit in the taxi.
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He was completely green,
and he threw up immediately.
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When I asked, he said:
"They would not give me insulin."
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Such things happen all the time
but people do not believe me.
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/ p>
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They believe that I'm exaggerating
to work out and grow my image.
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The episode happened several times
and then I began to be afraid .
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Police. P>
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Do you understand why?
You attract attention. P>
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None of what we made
legal -
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- but we did not think so much about it.
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Thierry ran the same risk as me
while holding a camera.
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I climbed higher and higher
to get the right angle.
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p> - Was it difficult?
- Yes.
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I called and asked him:
"Are we going out tonight?" Every evening. P>
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He faithfully followed me for five years.
It was incredible. P>
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It's good here. Here is not anyone
so you are undisturbed. P>
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00:38:27,736 --> 00:38:32,991
- Yes, but you're looking at me.
- I'll shut it off. P>
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00:38:33,075 --> 00:38:35,702
I both loved and hated him.
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00:38:35,786 --> 00:38:39,623
Thierry! Stop filming. P>
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00:38:39,706 --> 00:38:43,877
He was very going on
but also very loving. P>
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00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,674
He was a little crazy on an annoying
but also on a cool way.
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When it was a bit too dark, I turned on the light -
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- and then he turned around and became furious.
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00:38:58,266 --> 00:39:04,731
"Turn off the light!" I did,
but I turned on again. P>
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00:39:07,067 --> 00:39:12,781
I let Thierry follow me because he
could get a unique perspective -
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He was focused and had a goal,
and he realized his ideas.
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00:39:30,132 --> 00:39:36,722
So I followed him, but it was a start , and I only got the start.
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00:39:42,728 --> 00:39:49,026
When Bush was elected president in 2000, I was not happy.
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When he began to talk about Iraq
00:39:56,867
There is no doubt that Iraq's leader is an evil man.
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00:39:56,992 --> 00:40:02,080
422
00:40:02,164 --> 00:40:06,043
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00:40:06,126 --> 00:40:10,088
We know he has weapons of mass destruction.
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So, we keep an eye on him.
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A leader of the hell.
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00:40:20,807 --> 00:40:24,811
Several people asked me
after September 11 -
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- if I wanted to censor myself
because people were sensitive.
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00:40:29,608 --> 00:40:35,489
But I would do the opposite
because too many censor themselves -
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- and then you only hear voices
spreading anxiety and violence.
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00:40:41,703 --> 00:40:46,750
I felt I should create some contra -rative works.
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00:40:46,833 --> 00:40:51,505
In 2004 before the election -
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- Robbie Conal, as known
for his political works -
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Graffiti artist Mear and I
an antiBush collaboration.
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00:41:04,267 --> 00:41:08,188
I became very touched
because it's mine work.
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00:41:08,271 --> 00:41:15,654
They were great artists, but none of them
made portraits of George Bush.
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00:41:15,737 --> 00:41:22,035
But then they came here young guys
and wanted to my area -
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00:41:22,119 --> 00:41:25,956
- and said, "Come on.
What have you done recently?"
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I thought it was nice.
I even started to cry.
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00:41:32,170 --> 00:41:35,716
On my hugged Bush a bomb,
and the text sounded:
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"Should I hug kids
and throw bombs?"
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00:41:39,344 --> 00:41:45,767
At Mears poster was there:
"Should we play Harmagedon?"
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00:41:45,851 --> 00:41:50,147
On the poster of Robbie Conals there stood:
"Read my Apocalips."
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00:41:50,230 --> 00:41:56,320
We arranged a poster party,
where everyone got stickers and a brush -
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00:41:56,403 --> 00:42:02,659
- and then we set posters
from Venice to East Los Angeles.
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00:42:02,743 --> 00:42:05,620
It was amazing.
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00:42:06,788 --> 00:42:12,919
447
00:42:13,003 --> 00:42:17,007
John Kerry acknowledges himself defeated
in the 2004 presidential election.
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Ladies and gentlemen: US President.
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I got the idea that fear was obviously a stronger argument -
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- than a promise to make
something good for humanity.
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00:42:58,507 --> 00:43:04,596
I continued to make posters
during Bush's second parliamentary term. P>
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00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:12,104
I realized that subtle arguments
work less well here in the country -
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which people can relate to.
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00:43:27,035 --> 00:43:30,872
- Vivienne was born in 2005.
- Obey Giant!
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Prosit!
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00:43:35,335 --> 00:43:40,632
Amanda was pregnant with Madeline ,
and I did not think -
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- What could strengthen my trademark as rebel.
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00:43:46,138 --> 00:43:50,726
I thought more about what kind of Government -
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My children should grow up.
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00:43:54,730 --> 00:44:01,862
Do we want to pursue a cynical policy
or a hopeful policy?
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Hope with freedom-giving slaves.
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00:44:05,615 --> 00:44:09,953
Hope for immigrants,
who set the course against distant shores.
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00:44:10,037 --> 00:44:15,208
Hope of a young captain in the fleet
who patrols the Mekong Delta.
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Hope at a working son
and the hope of a skinny boy -
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- with a strange name that thinks
America has room for him.
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00:44:28,472 --> 00:44:36,188
I saw Obama's speech in 2004,
and I thought it was strong.
467
00:44:36,271 --> 00:44:41,902
I studied several of his tales
and his writings -
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00:44:41,985 --> 00:44:49,284
- and also his political point of view < br /> and thought, "I can support him."
469
00:44:49,368 --> 00:44:53,789
Instead of being against things,
I used to be often.
470
00:44:53,872 --> 00:45:01,338
It's the easiest and
471
00:45:02,714 --> 00:45:08,387
Being advocate for something
requires more courage than being critical.
472
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:12,599
Senator Barack Obama!
473
00:45:12,683 --> 00:45:17,938
- Young Senator Barack Obama.
- Illinois Senator Barack Obama.
474
00:45:18,021 --> 00:45:20,232
Hi, Everyone!
475
00:45:20,315 --> 00:45:24,069
Senators Support
Darfur Peace and Accountability Act. P>
476
00:45:24,152 --> 00:45:31,118
The most important thing we can do now is to
engage the Americans in politics -
477
00:45:31,201 --> 00:45:37,290
- and make them interested in
what our government actually can do.
478
00:45:37,374 --> 00:45:43,338
We must change the course of history,
and the journey towards the healing of the nation -
479
00:45:43,422 --> 00:45:48,343
- and a better world
has started. Thank you! P>
480
00:45:49,845 --> 00:45:53,765
When I created my Obama image,
I was afraid -
481
00:45:53,849 --> 00:46:00,230
- that they did not want my support.
I would not hurt
482
00:46:00,314 --> 00:46:05,402
I had a friend who knew one who worked on the campaign -
483
00:46:05,485 --> 00:46:11,283
- and he asked if it was okay
to I made a poster.
484
00:46:11,366 --> 00:46:14,745
They said, "Okay, we know him."
485
00:46:16,663 --> 00:46:22,794
I used red, white and blue tones
in a portrait -
486
00:46:22,878 --> 00:46:29,885
- where his face was half red
and the rest was blue and white.
487
00:46:29,968 --> 00:46:34,973
But the colors met in the middle, which symbolizes cooperation. P>
488
00:46:42,397 --> 00:46:48,153
I've always loved that picture
by John F. Kennedy -
489
00:46:48,236 --> 00:46:52,741
- where he looks
People can relate to it.
490
00:46:52,824 --> 00:46:58,372
They are looking forward to a future
that you do not know.
491
00:46:58,455 --> 00:47:00,916
It's powerful.
492
00:47:00,999 --> 00:47:07,214
I searched for a photo with the right light
and the correct main view.
493
00:47:07,297 --> 00:47:10,842
I found about five pictures -
494
00:47:10,926 --> 00:47:15,931
- which I could use as a model.
I chose the most famous.
495
00:47:20,894 --> 00:47:25,107
On the first 750 posters
there was "Progress" at the bottom -
496
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:29,945
- but I was told the most used
words "Hope" and "Change."
497
00:47:30,028 --> 00:47:34,908
I changed it to "Hope" during the eight years of Bush's power -
498
00:47:34,992 --> 00:47:39,496
- many had hopelessness.
So I liked "Hope."
499
00:47:39,579 --> 00:47:42,332
500
00:47:42,416 --> 00:47:45,585
Here is the original.
501
00:47:45,669 --> 00:47:52,843
They would not use the image itself -
502
00:47:52,926 --> 00:47:56,179
- because it was grassroots inspired.
It did not come from the campaign.
503
00:48:01,601 --> 00:48:05,230
And they were right.
504
00:48:05,314 --> 00:48:12,070
People could download it free of charge on my website.
505
00:48:12,154 --> 00:48:16,742
When using my posters,
I got People to send a party.
506
00:48:16,825 --> 00:48:22,414
If a newspaper would use it,
I sent them.
507
00:48:30,213 --> 00:48:34,301
I was interviewed almost every day
and
508
00:48:34,384 --> 00:48:41,475
I printed 300,000 posters
and 500,000 stickers.
509
00:48:41,558 --> 00:48:48,607
- and 1,200 prints to pay
for the posters and stickers.
510
00:48:48,690 --> 00:48:56,073
It was important that I did not appear
as someone who would earn it.
511
00:48:56,156 --> 00:49:01,912
You must have your pockets filled now.
Is this your dairy cow?
512
00:49:01,995 --> 00:49:08,043
Do you stop making art now?
Do you retire afterwards?
513
00:49:08,126 --> 00:49:12,255
- No, I'm...
- You're making money on it.
514
00:49:12,339 --> 00:49:18,345
I get another type of reward,
such as Obama becoming president.
515
00:49:19,972 --> 00:49:24,601
/ p>
516
00:49:24,685 --> 00:49:30,732
It was nice to see my image
that was not part of the campaign -
517
00:49:30,816 --> 00:49:35,445
- Becoming more famous
than the official polls.
518
00:49:35,529 --> 00:49:39,032
>
519
00:49:39,116 --> 00:49:43,954
The nation all over. I believe that. P>
520
00:49:44,037 --> 00:49:50,252
- It's signed Barack Obama.
- With a real pen.
521
00:49:50,335 --> 00:49:53,922
It may have been signed
by his secretary -
522
00:49:54,006 --> 00:50:00,846
- but I want to
523
00:50:12,399 --> 00:50:15,527
My mother had a birthday
on the 4th of November -
524
00:50:15,610 --> 00:50:21,074
- and Amanda and I participated in
00:50:40,385
I was overwhelmed
by a huge sense of relief -
526
00:50:40,469 --> 00:50:44,348
- and I just started to cry.
527
00:50:44,431 --> 00:50:50,103
I called my mother.
It was amazing. P>
528
00:50:50,187 --> 00:50:54,066
Black, White, Asian,
Latin Americans, Native Americans -
529
00:50:54,149 --> 00:50:58,403
- Gay, heterosexual /> or disabled...
530
00:50:58,487 --> 00:51:05,035
Today, Americans have said that we
are not just a collection of individuals -
531
00:51:05,118 --> 00:51:08,622
- or a collection
of Red and Blue States.
532
00:51:08,705 --> 00:51:13,001
We are and remain
United States!
533
00:51:28,141 --> 00:51:33,313
Suddenly, one of my works was known over almost the world.
534
00:51:33,397 --> 00:51:38,110
I walked past Washington Airport
on my way to the deployment -
535
00:51:38,193 --> 00:51:43,115
- and then cups and jerseys and stuff
with my picture.
536
00:51:43,198 --> 00:51:45,617
It was absolutely absurd.
537
00:51:45,701 --> 00:51:50,956
The wildest thing was,
I started with 750 posters - p
538
00:51:51,039 --> 00:51:53,875
and now the whole world had seen it.
539
00:51:53,959 --> 00:51:58,797
Obama's campaign team asked me
to make a "Change" poster -
540
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:05,053
- and a "Vote "posters they sold
to fund the campaign.
541
00:52:05,137 --> 00:52:08,849
I was even preparing -
542
00:52:08,932 --> 00:52:13,645
- my own solo show at
Boston Institute of Contemporary Art.
543
00:52:13,729 --> 00:52:20,777
It seems as though it is necessary to turn it all counterclockwise.
544
00:52:20,861 --> 00:52:25,574
It was scheduled before I made Obama -plakaten -
545
00:52:25,657 --> 00:52:32,873
But the museum was very pleased
that my popularity had risen.
546
00:52:32,956 --> 00:52:38,837
Shepard Fairey is known for most
for his street art and provocations.
547
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:43,258
This is the official
insertion poster.
548
00:52:44,551 --> 00:52:47,846
Most people knew Shepard -
549
00:52:47,929 --> 00:52:54,061
- for the André the Giant stickers
and the Obama image.
550
00:52:54,144 --> 00:52:59,024
But most had not seen what he had done in the meantime.
551
00:52:59,107 --> 00:53:03,153
His prints, his paintings
and the hand painted series.
552
00:53:03,236 --> 00:53:07,616
No one had gathered his works
in a single place.
553
00:53:15,624 --> 00:53:20,587
In the months
before my solo exhibition in Boston -
554
00:53:20,671 --> 00:53:28,470
I still went over to put
posters and stickers.
555
00:53:28,553 --> 00:53:33,976
The interesting thing about it was
that we worked very outdoors.
556
00:53:37,354 --> 00:53:41,358
We got permission to beautify
past due buildings.
557
00:53:41,441 --> 00:53:45,195
We had plenty of surfaces.
558
00:53:46,488 --> 00:53:51,034
It got a police officer's attention.
It was not the posters -
559
00:53:51,118 --> 00:53:57,499
- but because I had spoken
an interview in NPR.
560
00:53:57,582 --> 00:54:02,004
I said street art was a legitimate art direction -
561
00:54:02,087 --> 00:54:06,341
- and that I defended
my actions in this regard. / p>
562
00:54:06,425 --> 00:54:10,095
He thought it was very offensive.
563
00:54:10,846 --> 00:54:15,392
Do you think people who do not
want street art on the houses -
564
00:54:15,475 --> 00:54:20,355
- or on signs and the like,
have a pointe?
565
00:54:20,439 --> 00:54:27,029
Graffiti and street art do not fit
all over the place, so I always try -
566
00:54:27,112 --> 00:54:32,451
567
00:54:32,534 --> 00:54:36,997
I pay taxes so I own
some of the public space.
568
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:42,502
I have the right to put things up
where they make people least.
569
00:54:42,586 --> 00:54:47,007
I only use
clean-up buildings -
570
00:54:47,090 --> 00:54:50,010
- and where there is already graffiti.
571
00:54:50,093 --> 00:54:54,556
We were in Boston
and there was nightly fame
572
00:54:54,640 --> 00:55:01,271
It was a big day for him.
We had to take a taxi to the museum.
573
00:55:01,355 --> 00:55:07,235
I received a message from Amanda.
"Shepard is taken by police. "
574
00:55:07,319 --> 00:55:14,868
A police car stopped in front of the taxi,
one stop behind and one by the side.
575
00:55:14,951 --> 00:55:18,163
I thought," What's going on? "
576
00:55:18,246 --> 00:55:23,460
p> I actually thought the taxi driver
had a kilo of cocaine in the car.
577
00:55:23,543 --> 00:55:27,547
They had nine civilians and cars.
578
00:55:27,631 --> 00:55:33,804
"Out of the car!" They raised him
and put handcuffs on him. P>
579
00:55:33,887 --> 00:55:37,933
I was charged with 32 crimes. P>
580
00:55:38,016 --> 00:55:42,312
Listen to everyone!
I have something to say to you.
581
00:55:42,396 --> 00:55:46,441
You may have heard the rumors about it -
582
00:55:46,525 --> 00:55:49,486
But Shepard has been arrested.
583
00:55:52,155 --> 00:55:55,909
But we have the house filled with all his works -
584
00:55:55,993 --> 00:56:00,163
- so stay here
and celebrate Shepard tonight.
585
00:56:00,247 --> 00:56:04,543
He needs all the energy
you can give him.
586
00:56:04,626 --> 00:56:09,756
Do you agree? Can you give him your love and energy? P>
587
00:56:12,634 --> 00:56:15,762
Then we start! P>
588
00:56:16,847 --> 00:56:22,561
I was shocked and disturbed.
We would present an artist. P>
589
00:56:22,644 --> 00:56:28,233
It was a good advertisement for Boston.
He gave the mayor his hand.
590
00:56:28,317 --> 00:56:32,404
It was completely grinning.
591
00:56:32,487 --> 00:56:39,453
Shepard has been in jail before,
but when he sits there this weekend -
592
00:56:39,536 --> 00:56:42,539
-so they do not give him his...
593
00:56:44,833 --> 00:56:50,297
Excuse me...
They do not give him his insulin -
594
00:56:50,380 --> 00:56:52,591
- and then he becomes ill.
595
00:56:52,674 --> 00:56:56,011
I was afraid of Shepard's behalf.
596
00:56:56,094 --> 00:57:00,766
The street artist, known for his Obama posters -
597
00:57:00,849 --> 00:57:02,893
- has been arrested in Boston.
598
00:57:02,976 --> 00:57:07,105
It is alleged that
two arrest warrant against him.
599
00:57:07,189 --> 00:57:12,694
I called a lawyer,
as one known at the museum -
600
00:57:12,778 --> 00:57:19,993
- and we went to the arrest together
and we got him out in the morning.
601
00:57:25,082 --> 00:57:29,836
Then I was told
that he was charged with vandalism.
602
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,881
Call the police.
603
00:57:40,472 --> 00:57:44,309
Welcome to
My name is Jamie Kenneally.
604
00:57:44,393 --> 00:57:50,399
We have a good program tonight.
We need to talk to Bill Kelly.
605
00:57:50,482 --> 00:57:56,571
- May I call you P>
606
00:57:56,655 --> 00:58:01,493
Some policemen
from Boston's Anti-Fraud Department -
607
00:58:01,576 --> 00:58:07,332
- built their entire career
to arrest graffiti artists.
608
00:58:07,416 --> 00:58:14,131
And Shepard was a famous artist,
so it was a beautiful trophy.
609
00:58:14,214 --> 00:58:18,802
The difference between graffiti and art
is a permission.
610
00:58:18,885 --> 00:58:24,433
If it looks so good
why is it not on your house?
611
00:58:24,516 --> 00:58:28,687
Why not on your car
or at your father's company? P>
612
00:58:28,770 --> 00:58:32,524
If it's art,
should they try to sell it. P>
613
00:58:32,607 --> 00:58:38,947
He continued to reiterate that I was a person who...
614
00:58:41,491 --> 00:58:47,539
I did not respect society.
"Respect the community," he said.
615
00:58:47,622 --> 00:58:51,835
"If you do not
616
00:58:51,918 --> 00:58:55,088
It's not his first sentence.
617
00:58:55,172 --> 00:59:00,177
He has been arrested for having graffiti made throughout the country .
618
00:59:00,260 --> 00:59:04,431
Shepard performed most of his art
on past buildings -
619
00:59:04,514 --> 00:59:10,479
- and there were often advertisements for Madewell and Urban Outfitters.
620
00:59:10,562 --> 00:59:15,817
There are advertising posters that are as illegal as Shepards.
621
00:59:15,901 --> 00:59:20,072
There is no difference.
Same materials without permission.
622
00:59:20,155 --> 00:59:25,952
They get someone
But they do it without permission.
623
00:59:26,036 --> 00:59:31,625
It's selective enforcement.
They were just out of Shepard.
624
00:59:32,834 --> 00:59:37,005
They arrested me for some posters
and stickers in Boston -
625
00:59:37,089 --> 00:59:41,927
- and most of it was about the stickers.
626
00:59:42,010 --> 00:59:47,849
But they did not care.
627
00:59:47,933 --> 00:59:51,687
Police Inspector Kelly was
in search of new charges. P>
628
00:59:51,770 --> 00:59:55,774
Han wanted to be fully in favor of me
629
00:59:55,857 --> 01:00:01,321
for all posters and stickers. walked around and found stickers
so he could add a sentence.
630
01:00:01,405 --> 01:00:06,952
I risked two and a half years prison per sentence -
631
01:00:07,035 --> 01:00:14,209
- and 32 allegations correspond to something like 83 years in prison.
632
01:00:15,168 --> 01:00:21,550
I just wanted to open
my first solo exhibition at the museum -
633
01:00:21,633 --> 01:00:26,680
and I had received attention after the Obama poster.
634
01:00:26,763 --> 01:00:33,812
The original had also come
in the Smithsonian portrait gallery.
635
01:00:33,895 --> 01:00:38,317
But instead, I was arrested,
and some days later -
636
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:44,573
- called the Associated Press and said:
637
01:00:44,656 --> 01:00:48,035
"You've used our photography -
638
01:00:48,118 --> 01:00:52,205
- and we'll see all
639
01:00:52,289 --> 01:00:57,210
Shepard's image became an unofficial
symbol of the Obama campaign -
640
01:00:57,294 --> 01:01:01,673
- and here's a 2006 photo,
owned by the Associated Press.
641
01:01:01,757 --> 01:01:04,843
AP claims that it requires permission.
642
01:01:04,926 --> 01:01:09,514
They would have all the money I had earned .
643
01:01:09,598 --> 01:01:16,355
But I had used them to make more posters so it was impossible.
644
01:01:16,438 --> 01:01:22,611
It got a group of lawyers
to stand up and defend me.
645
01:01:22,694 --> 01:01:29,660
>
646
01:01:29,743 --> 01:01:33,038
I was sent on a mission
to photograph George Clooney -
647
01:01:33,121 --> 01:01:38,669
-which visited Washington DC
648
01:01:38,752 --> 01:01:41,755
I found a photo of Obama
and Clooney at a conference -
649
01:01:41,838 --> 01:01:46,718
But the solution was too bad. P>
650
01:01:46,802 --> 01:01:51,139
I liked Obama's gaze,
so I continued. P>
651
01:01:51,223 --> 01:01:58,105
found a better picture, where only Obama was.
652
01:01:58,188 --> 01:02:03,986
A colleague named Tom Gralish
at Philadelphia Inquirer called.
653
01:02:04,069 --> 01:02:11,410
"Listen here... The Obama picture is yours,
and I can prove it. " P>
654
01:02:11,493 --> 01:02:17,708
Our defense against AP
regarding copyright infringement was -
655
01:02:17,791 --> 01:02:21,211
-I meant it was reasonable use.
656
01:02:21,294 --> 01:02:27,384
But if they wanted, I could pay
The $ 300 license fee.
657
01:02:28,385 --> 01:02:33,181
I was worried
for Shepard Fairey's attitude.
658
01:02:33,265 --> 01:02:39,229
He was very brave.
He said, "Yes,
659
01:02:39,313 --> 01:02:43,692
"I transformed this image -"
660
01:02:43,775 --> 01:02:48,071
- and I have nothing < br /> legal responsibility. P>
661
01:02:48,155 --> 01:02:54,328
The photographer who took the photo
will now intervene in the trial. P>
662
01:02:54,411 --> 01:03:00,125
According to Anthony Falzone from Stanford
University, there is no crime.
663
01:03:00,208 --> 01:03:05,547
The fair use law
can protect Shepard.
664
01:03:05,630 --> 01:03:09,593
One can be creative,
even if you copy something -
665
01:03:09,676 --> 01:03:13,847
Man kan sagtens være kreativ,
selvom man kopierer noget-
666
01:03:13,930 --> 01:03:18,560
- and I think it has the
democratic process -
667
01:03:18,644 --> 01:03:25,233
- and given the powerless power back
so I'm extremely satisfied.
668
01:03:25,317 --> 01:03:27,944
It was brave. P>
669
01:03:29,363 --> 01:03:32,658
But it was still a lot...
670
01:03:36,328 --> 01:03:39,456
It was the start of something bad. P>
671
01:03:42,751 --> 01:03:48,298
The 2nd of January at about. 13 -
672
01:03:48,382 --> 01:03:54,179
- became a person who turned out to be Shepard Fairey, seen by the police -
673
01:03:54,262 --> 01:03:59,017
- when he put a sticker on the back of a traffic sign.
674
01:03:59,101 --> 01:04:03,772
He was asked to remove it,
which he did.
675
01:04:03,855 --> 01:04:07,484
- Was there any destruction?
- No.
676
01:04:07,567 --> 01:04:11,363
Why did he say
for destruction of property? P>
677
01:04:11,446 --> 01:04:14,241
We will show that there has been damage. P>
678
01:04:14,324 --> 01:04:20,497
He was asked to remove
this sticker ?
679
01:04:20,580 --> 01:04:24,167
Gjorde han det? Hvor er skaden så?
680
01:04:24,251 --> 01:04:27,629
When he removed the sticker...
681
01:04:27,713 --> 01:04:32,134
- Was there any leftovers on the sign?
- No.
682
01:04:32,217 --> 01:04:38,140
However, when he placed the sticker
he suffered damage on the sign.
683
01:04:39,683 --> 01:04:44,062
A policeman who had free
saw me set it up -
684
01:04:44,146 --> 01:04:50,444
- and he later testified that he had seen me Do it.
685
01:04:50,527 --> 01:04:55,949
He bade me climb up and remove it
and I did.
686
01:04:56,033 --> 01:05:02,998
I had also posted a poster
over a window of boards
687
01:05:03,081 --> 01:05:09,129
They negotiated with my lawyer.
"If he confesses the two things-"
688
01:05:09,212 --> 01:05:13,050
- and blame
and pay a fine-
689
01:05:13,133 --> 01:05:16,928
690
01:05:18,221 --> 01:05:24,061
"- We'll definitely drop the case."
691
01:05:24,144 --> 01:05:28,899
- Please enter name and age.
- Frank Shepard Fairey, 39 years.
692
01:05:28,982 --> 01:05:35,572
- Do you want to hear the facts?
- It's unnecessary.
693
01:05:36,406 --> 01:05:42,329
Two minor offenses are much better than 32 gross crimes.
694
01:05:42,412 --> 01:05:45,624
You are judged a probationary period of two years -
695
01:05:45,707 --> 01:05:50,712
- and it will expire on 6 July 2011.
696
01:05:50,796 --> 01:05:53,548
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
697
01:05:57,177 --> 01:06:00,514
I'm glad it's over.
698
01:06:00,597 --> 01:06:04,267
I'll continue to make art -
699
01:06:04,351 --> 01:06:10,065
- so it's nice that this is over
700
01:06:10,148 --> 01:06:14,403
for months
701
01:06:14,486 --> 01:06:18,615
702
01:06:18,699 --> 01:06:23,203
703
01:06:23,286 --> 01:06:30,794
> But the issues
with the Associated Press continued. P>
704
01:06:30,877 --> 01:06:36,591
Now, the people I had lied about said
which image I had used. P>
705
01:06:36,675 --> 01:06:42,848
- left in the frame,
but it was absolutely not.
706
01:06:42,931 --> 01:06:48,395
I do not know who had claimed it from the outset.
707
01:06:48,478 --> 01:06:53,275
When the lawyers asked me
what image I used -
708
01:06:53,358 --> 01:06:58,280
- I replied that I had used
a cropped version of this photo. P>
709
01:06:58,363 --> 01:07:02,159
I offer Welcome to the National Press Club.
710
01:07:02,242 --> 01:07:08,832
It turned out that the cropped photo
was enlarged and taken -
711
01:07:08,915 --> 01:07:12,669
- a few seconds later
by the same photographer.
712
01:07:12,753 --> 01:07:16,298
But it was not the same picture.
713
01:07:16,381 --> 01:07:22,679
I did not realize, because I never
compared the pictures.
714
01:07:22,763 --> 01:07:28,268
Why is that so important? Here we see the
image used for the poster -
715
01:07:28,352 --> 01:07:32,773
- and the image with George Clooney,
and they are almost identical. P>
716
01:07:32,856 --> 01:07:37,235
Yes, and some lawyers argue,
It does not matter -
717
01:07:37,319 --> 01:07:42,366
- but according to AP, it's crucial.
It's bad news for Fairey.
718
01:07:43,700 --> 01:07:47,120
The lawsuit in Boston was very stressful -
719
01:07:47,204 --> 01:07:53,126
- and I was actually on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
720
01:07:53,210 --> 01:07:58,590
In addition, I had to admit I had
made an error regarding the image.
721
01:07:58,674 --> 01:08:04,388
So I made it worse for
722
01:08:04,471 --> 01:08:10,894
I adhered to the version that
I had used a cropped photo.
723
01:08:10,978 --> 01:08:16,733
I did not say either to the lawyers
or Amanda, that I was wrong -
724
01:08:16,817 --> 01:08:21,863
- regarding the two pictures.
In addition, I felt stupid.
725
01:08:21,947 --> 01:08:26,827
I tried to hide it <
726
01:08:26,910 --> 01:08:32,624
I remember him one day said,
"I have to talk to you about something."
727
01:08:32,708 --> 01:08:36,378
He said it < br /> in such a strange way -
728
01:08:36,461 --> 01:08:41,258
- I either thought he was dying or had an affair.
729
01:08:41,341 --> 01:08:44,219
He said, "Sit down."
730
01:08:44,303 --> 01:08:50,392
"No, I want Do not put me down.
Say it while I get up. "
731
01:08:50,475 --> 01:08:55,856
" I refuse to put myself. "
Then he told me the story.
732
01:08:55,939 --> 01:09:02,487
When I realized that I could lie under oath -
733
01:09:02,571 --> 01:09:05,115
I agreed to my lawyers. P>
734
01:09:05,198 --> 01:09:12,789
I said, "Why did you do that? "
" It did not matter. "
735
01:09:12,873 --> 01:09:16,126
But he had sworn
that was the second photo.
736
01:09:16,209 --> 01:09:21,757
They could use all this to
It felt very threatening.
737
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,260
It was not about money for me -
738
01:09:25,344 --> 01:09:30,766
- but about my freedom.
It was easy.
739
01:09:30,849 --> 01:09:37,105
/ p>
740
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:40,817
But he did not feel well.
741
01:09:40,901 --> 01:09:46,365
This was the first time
I had done something so cowardly.
742
01:09:46,448 --> 01:09:50,869
I did everything
what I
743
01:09:52,663 --> 01:09:57,042
I said to him:
"If you just said that..."
744
01:09:57,125 --> 01:10:02,130
"If you had said that,
when it started -
745
01:10:02,214 --> 01:10:06,927
- I could have helped you
through it. "
746
01:10:10,681 --> 01:10:15,852
It was one of the most difficult periods
in our relationship. / p>
747
01:10:17,813 --> 01:10:21,483
I never let him do it.
748
01:10:21,566 --> 01:10:27,322
I would have done everything in my power to save him.
749
01:10:28,865 --> 01:10:35,372
We decided he should stand up
and tell it to his lawyers.
750
01:10:35,455 --> 01:10:39,918
When I spoke with the lawyers,
they became very frustrated -
751
01:10:40,002 --> 01:10:45,549
- and it was incredibly difficult for me
"Why did not you say that?"
752
01:10:45,632 --> 01:10:50,554
"Your chances of winning were good
regardless of the image."
753
01:10:50,637 --> 01:10:58,270
"You would have won, but now you have
cast a bad light on the case -
754
01:10:58,353 --> 01:11:01,606
- Because you appear to be a villain."
755
01:11:01,690 --> 01:11:08,405
"It will affect the entire procedure,
and we can not continue with you. "
756
01:11:08,488 --> 01:11:13,535
" A spokesman for Fairey has stated that lawyers may drop the case. "
757
01:11:13,618 --> 01:11:16,121
P>
758
01:11:18,832 --> 01:11:21,752
He presented false evidence. P>
759
01:11:21,835 --> 01:11:27,632
Shepard Fairey has acknowledged,
that an Associated Press photograph -
760
01:11:27,716 --> 01:11:30,636
was the
model for the Obama poster.
761
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:35,724
Fairey has acknowledged that he has destroyed and forged documents -
762
01:11:35,807 --> 01:11:40,520
- in a dispute with the Associated Press.
763
01:11:40,604 --> 01:11:43,231
Judgment will be delivered in July.
764
01:11:43,315 --> 01:11:49,529
When I became aware of the facts,
I saw a chance to clarify -
765
01:11:49,613 --> 01:11:54,409
- How much an action
an artist should have -
766
01:11:54,493 --> 01:11:59,206
- when using
copyrighted images.
767
01:11:59,289 --> 01:12:02,501
So that was basically <
768
01:12:02,584 --> 01:12:09,508
I think artists are right
to create new, edited photos -
769
01:12:09,591 --> 01:12:14,888
- from existing photos.
The
770
01:12:14,972 --> 01:12:19,935
My message to the artists is:
If you want something -
771
01:12:20,018 --> 01:12:25,649
- to promote your own work,
then it's fine .
772
01:12:25,732 --> 01:12:29,653
But respect your professional colleagues -
773
01:12:29,736 --> 01:12:36,326
- and ask for permission. That's all. P>
774
01:12:36,410 --> 01:12:42,749
The photo did not have any
icon status. Not at all. P>
775
01:12:42,833 --> 01:12:46,962
Shepard made it an icon.
It was his merit. P>
776
01:12:47,045 --> 01:12:51,967
If he wanted to sell T-shirts,
and if there was one movie star -
777
01:12:52,050 --> 01:12:58,849
- The photographer must be compensated,
however bad the picture is.
778
01:12:58,932 --> 01:13:05,439
But using a politician's picture
to express himself is different.
779
01:13:06,273 --> 01:13:13,155
The room was filled with photographers,
took photos. It was impersonal. P>
780
01:13:14,072 --> 01:13:21,038
Freedom of speech is important in America,
and Shepard saw something in that picture. P>
781
01:13:24,249 --> 01:13:30,714
Fairey denies the matter because
is because
782
01:13:30,797 --> 01:13:37,471
According to AP, his photo is a pure copy,
which does not add anything new.
783
01:13:37,554 --> 01:13:40,932
Journalism would be threatened -
784
01:13:41,016 --> 01:13:47,022
- if everyone could copy things
without ever paying for it.
785
01:13:47,105 --> 01:13:52,819
Associated Press & apos; Claims
would have ruined Shepard.
786
01:13:53,528 --> 01:13:59,326
The license fee for a photo is
of up to a few thousand dollars -
787
01:13:59,409 --> 01:14:02,996
and the required millions of dollars.
788
01:14:03,080 --> 01:14:09,086
AP wanted to make sure that the case created precedence.
789
01:14:09,169 --> 01:14:13,548
If you steal
or take something from AP -
790
01:14:13,632 --> 01:14:17,427
- then your long arms
After you.
791
01:14:17,511 --> 01:14:21,181
AP could afford more attorneys -
792
01:14:21,264 --> 01:14:27,312
- so they could squeeze Shepard hard
over a long period of time.
793
01:14:27,396 --> 01:14:33,318
Shepard could not.
He and Amanda were in trouble. P>
794
01:14:33,402 --> 01:14:39,408
It was a dark time for me.
It was stressful and depressing. P>
795
01:14:40,826 --> 01:14:44,913
Han had a black cloud over his head.
796
01:14:44,997 --> 01:14:48,750
But we have children
and he is a wonderful father -
797
01:14:48,834 --> 01:14:53,672
- and he was there for all time.
798
01:14:54,715 --> 01:15:00,554
p>
799
01:15:00,637 --> 01:15:03,390
The girls always come first.
I think he was the best -
800
01:15:03,473 --> 01:15:09,229
- when he was with them.
801
01:15:09,313 --> 01:15:15,110
Amanda was very stressed
because of all that was happening.
802
01:15:15,193 --> 01:15:18,864
It would have been easier on my own.
803
01:15:23,327 --> 01:15:29,624
Band 1, Series 5 by Shepard Faireys <
804
01:15:29,708 --> 01:15:33,045
It was a stressful experience.
805
01:15:33,128 --> 01:15:37,507
If you do not give them the answer,
as they want -
806
01:15:37,591 --> 01:15:42,554
- then they ask the question five times
in different ways.
807
01:15:42,638 --> 01:15:50,020
They try to make it look
as if something has been done seriously.
808
01:15:50,103 --> 01:15:56,109
You know what photograph you used
to make the Obama picture? P>
809
01:15:58,904 --> 01:16:01,615
I thought I knew it. P>
810
01:16:01,698 --> 01:16:06,787
The Associated Press was
complete
811
01:16:06,870 --> 01:16:14,628
They wanted to crucify him in a way that I did not really understand.
812
01:16:17,964 --> 01:16:20,550
- Have you read the printout?
- Yes.
813
01:16:20,634 --> 01:16:25,222
When did you say it was wrong
by Fairey to use your photograph?
814
01:16:25,305 --> 01:16:29,351
- I did not say that.
- We take a break.
815
01:16:30,686 --> 01:16:34,773
It was a lunch break, and I said:
816
01:16:34,856 --> 01:16:38,819
"Shepard, do you want to eat
lunch with me?" P>
817
01:16:38,902 --> 01:16:43,907
And the sledding animals went completely crazy. P>
818
01:16:44,992 --> 01:16:50,455
We looked at them and said,
"We eat lunch. See you." P>
819
01:16:50,539 --> 01:16:57,879
I said to him: "I respect
photographers and collaborate with them." P> >
820
01:16:57,963 --> 01:17:02,759
"I also defend people,
if I can sense -
821
01:17:02,843 --> 01:17:09,433
- that they are being used by others."
I think we two -
822
01:17:09,516 --> 01:17:14,438
- looks more like each other than
than we look like people from the AP.
823
01:17:14,521 --> 01:17:20,027
Shepard gave me my hand
and said sorry.
824
01:17:20,110 --> 01:17:25,991
Han sagde: "Jeg skulle have
kontaktet dig tidligere."
825
01:17:27,743 --> 01:17:31,788
"I apologize.
I'd like to do it again."
826
01:17:31,872 --> 01:17:38,837
He began to realize that I had not done it for the sake of money -
827
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:44,301
- and that I did not even expect to win recognition of it.
828
01:17:44,384 --> 01:17:48,347
We had been linked
because it was a difficult time.
829
01:17:51,850 --> 01:17:57,689
We should go to court
when the AP would conclude a settlement. P>
830
01:17:57,773 --> 01:18:03,070
AP was probably worried
and they should also -
831
01:18:03,153 --> 01:18:10,160
- for It's the kind of complaint that
would be a disadvantage for them.
832
01:18:10,243 --> 01:18:13,580
-In talks with artists.
833
01:18:13,664 --> 01:18:17,918
Your goal was to achieve
a large sum Shepard's money -
834
01:18:18,001 --> 01:18:21,922
-to get a final verdict.
835
01:18:22,005 --> 01:18:29,304
Shepard signed a settlement with AP,
and AP signed a settlement with me.
836
01:18:29,388 --> 01:18:35,894
p> So... it took its time,
and it was exhausting.
837
01:18:35,978 --> 01:18:40,816
I asked my lawyers,
how much money it had costed -
838
01:18:40,899 --> 01:18:47,239
- before I finally could go my way
Shepard could go away -
839
01:18:47,322 --> 01:18:49,658
and AP their way.
840
01:18:49,741 --> 01:18:54,037
They estimated it to about $ 15 million.
841
01:18:54,121 --> 01:19:00,836
Most of that money was used
by Associated Press
842
01:19:00,919 --> 01:19:03,880
Attorneys.
843
01:19:05,007 --> 01:19:12,389
It was never settled by court,
whether it was fair use or not.
844
01:19:12,472 --> 01:19:16,560
If the case had been terminated
845
01:19:16,643 --> 01:19:19,479
Shepard probably won.
846
01:19:20,814 --> 01:19:25,360
You probably can not recognize
but you can recognize Shepard Fairey.
847
01:19:25,444 --> 01:19:31,867
But it was I took that photo
as he used to make a poster -
848
01:19:31,950 --> 01:19:35,329
- to be chosen
our first black president.
849
01:19:35,412 --> 01:19:37,873
It's all right.
850
01:19:37,956 --> 01:19:42,252
I have no problems with it.
851
01:19:43,003 --> 01:19:48,425
It was humiliating,
and I was ashamed of it.
852
01:19:48,508 --> 01:19:54,264
Nobody can say
how long people will remember it -
853
01:19:54,348 --> 01:19:59,186
always comes
to haunt me.
854
01:20:23,126 --> 01:20:28,674
When it was over, I did something
I always do something stressful.
855
01:20:28,757 --> 01:20:32,052
I worked,
01:21:22,728
I had seen one of his exhibitions -
857
01:21:22,811 --> 01:21:26,732
- and I was impressed
over his portraits.
858
01:21:26,815 --> 01:21:31,278
They were far better in quality than the Obama portrait.
859
01:21:31,361 --> 01:21:36,241
I thought he was one of
the most original and insightful
860
01:21:36,325 --> 01:21:39,870
01:21:46,460 The gallery owner Jeffrey Deitch, whom I greatly admire - 862 01:21:46,543 --> 01:21:51,465 - for his program in New York, asked me make an exhibition. 863 01:21:51,548 --> 01:21:56,303 I suggested him a theme: A portrait of America. 864 01:21:56,386 --> 01:22:02,184 Portraits of Underground Heroes and some of our political heroes. 865 01:22:03,268 --> 01:22:08,649 I had something to work on and correct my energy. 866 01:22:08,732 --> 01:22:12,361 I was both Socially and politically frustrated - 867 01:22:12,444 --> 01:22:15,781 -and frustrated by myself. 868 01:22:19,951 --> 01:22:24,998 It took at least one year to create this amazing portrait gallery. 869 01:22:25,082 --> 01:22:28,960 I decided to call the exhibition "Mayday". 870 01:22:33,131 --> 01:22:36,969 I feared that an exhibition on Deitch Projects - 871 01:22:37,052 --> 01:22:43,433 - which is a highly regarded 872 01:22:43,517 --> 01:22:48,397 Some people hoped that I got a lukewarm criticism - 873 01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:54,444 - so they could say, That the "Hope" poster was a daylight. 874 01:22:54,528 --> 01:23:00,951 That I was not a true artist. I'd rather resist it. 875 01:23:03,453 --> 01:23:09,251 In the morning, the audience began to queue before seven o'clock. 876 01:23:09,334 --> 01:23:15,882 When we opened, it was so full that they almost had to block the street. 877 01:23:36,361 --> 01:23:40,240 I've been very lucky. People know my art. 878 01:23:40,324 --> 01:23:44,328 I can live as an artist and I have a clothes tag. 879 01:23:44,411 --> 01:23:51,668 My income 880 01:23:51,752 --> 01:23:58,258 Now I can invest my money in things that are really close to me. 881 01:24:01,553 --> 01:24:05,140 People know not that he makes many things free. 882 01:24:05,223 --> 01:24:11,480 Gay Marriages, Citizens United, Money in Politics - 883 01:24:11,563 --> 01:24:15,442 The system and mass affairs. 884 01:24:15,525 --> 01:24:18,195 Climate change. 885 01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:25,619 It was easier when I was younger and made stickers and stencils - 886 01:24:25,702 --> 01:24:28,622 -style fame. 887 01:24:28,705 --> 01:24:34,252 But when you decorate the Eiffel Tower, it's going to be good. 888 01:24:39,424 --> 01:24:43,345 At the Climate Change Conference in Paris , leaders, researchers gather 889 01:24:43,428 --> 01:24:48,308 - and speakers to Encourage to act against climate change. 890 01:24:48,392 --> 01:24:53,105 One will decide how the countries will reduce greenhouse gases 891 01:24:53,188 --> 01:24:57,234 and provide the necessary financial support. 892 01:24:57,317 --> 01:25:02,823 893 01:25:02,906 --> 01:25:06,827 p> I made a earthquake between the second and third floors. 894 01:25:06,910 --> 01:25:10,956 You could see a mandala, a flower pattern - 895 01:25:11,039 --> 01:25:15,961 - and different 896 01:25:19,881 --> 01:25:25,887 Some of them spoke for green energy and others against fossil fuels. 897 01:25:25,971 --> 01:25:31,393 Nobody had made a three-dimensional installation on the Eiffel Tower before. 898 01:25:34,730 --> 01:25:40,652 To unite an entertaining value with a significant message - 899 01:25:40,736 --> 01:25:44,906 - In the same work, a business was and I'm proud of it. 900 01:25:44,990 --> 01:25:52,539 It conveyed my message, and the place was absolutely unique. P> 901 01:26:06,345 --> 01:26:13,310 Art often forms a starting point for a conversation between people. P> 902 01:26:13,393 --> 01:26:16,229 There are a lot of people- 903 01:26:16,313 --> 01:26:21,234 - which will engage in the debate about climate change. 904 01:26:24,321 --> 01:26:31,161 But if art attracts others, then it's hugely valuable. 905 01:26:36,124 --> 01:26:39,002 Sorry. P> 906 01:26:51,264 --> 01:26:57,980 We have our first forecast. Donald Trump wins in Kentucky. P> 907 01:26:58,063 --> 01:27:04,236 He probably wins an unexpected place. - Donald Trump wins in Ohio. P> 908 01:27:04,319 --> 01:27:08,115 - It's sensational. - Trump wins in Pennsylvania. P> 909 01:27:08,198 --> 01:27:14,913 - Donald Trump wins in Florida. - It's a totally surreal choice. 910 01:27:14,997 --> 01:27:18,125 USA! USA! USA! 911 01:27:37,519 --> 01:27:43,066 My need to make my art significant - 912 01:27:43,150 --> 01:27:50,282 - comes from the things in life, that I have interested in. 913 01:27:54,828 --> 01:28:00,250 Now I try to take my frustration and my impulses - 914 01:28:00,334 --> 01:28:06,965 - and do something constructively with it and I do the best with the art. 915 01:28:10,218 --> 01:28:13,972 We follow 916 01:28:14,056 --> 01:28:18,018 It will be the biggest deployment protest ever. 917 01:28:18,101 --> 01:28:21,104 The crowds begin to grow. 918 01:28:21,188 --> 01:28:27,402 And it's not only in Washington. People march across the country. 919 01:28:27,486 --> 01:28:32,032 The cold has not stopped the 20,000 participants in the march. 920 01:28:32,115 --> 01:28:38,914 200,000 protesters were expected. There are now 500,000. P> 921 01:28:38,997 --> 01:28:46,421 Women marches have been arranged 600 places on seven continents. P> 922 01:29:14,032 --> 01:29:17,953 Jeg er mere en kunstner end en aktivist. 923 01:29:18,036 --> 01:29:22,165 As an activist, you never do. 924 01:29:22,249 --> 01:29:25,544 As an artist, I do a lot. 925 01:30:17,929 --> 01:30:22,434 I've lasted longer than several generations of critics. 926 01:30:22,517 --> 01:30:25,020 < 927 01:30:25,103 --> 01:30:31,443 We are here for a limited time, and I will not waste a second. 928 01:30:37,115 --> 01:30:43,413 Associated Press has denied that 929 01:30:44,706 --> 01:30:49,127 Shepard has been re-accused for property destruction. 930 01:30:49,211 --> 01:30:53,632 This time it's in Detroit. 931 01:30:53,715 --> 01:30:58,512 If he is being sentenced, he is in prison for two years. 932 01:30:59,016 --> 01:31:04,516 . :: TWA - Your Source Of Quality! ::. www.nordicbits.org 933 01:31:05,227 --> 01:31:08,355 Rikke Schultz www.btistudios.com