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[commentator] we have
a paid presence tonight, 27,458.
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- [bat cracked]
-That is the second drive...
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[man] All life is "What if?"
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I don't know who we are
can identify the critical role
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that we bring to life
which we announce.
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[far baseball comments continue]
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[woman] Right , in the case of
People versus Juan Ignacio Catalan...
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What is your real name?
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Yes Ma'am.
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[Juan] Um, let's see...
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Well, I was born in Los Angeles, in 1978.
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My father bought a house on the outskirts of the city,
around 15, 20 miles north of LA
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My brother, Mario, started to roam
with the wrong crowd
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I always looked up at him,
Because he is my older brother.
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And I only remember
seeing him go home
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with stereo
and all kinds of different car parts.
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And that, I think, tickled me. p>
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They used to get into cars
and I will become a driver.
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That's the first time
I've been arrested.
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I definitely want to travel it was
my last trip to prison
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[commentator] The second match
that he was allowed to...
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[Juan] Well, on 12 August 2003.
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Alma and I, we have broken up.
We have some problems.
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Aku memanggilnya dan aku bertanya apakah dia bisa
datang dan tidurlah di rumahku
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Maybe midnight,
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and he asked me, "What are you doing?"
I said, "Trying to sleep."
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That night, I have strange dreams.
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I have a UFO dream
or an alien or something.
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And that I was taken away.
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I don't like you
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p>
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Wake up, a few days ago
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and we drive to work,
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it might be around 7:30 in the morning.
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We get into our shop parking lot,
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and my father is there, of course.
He's always the first one there.
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Five, six in the morning.
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[Alma] We go into the parking lot.
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I see a truck, close to us.
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And that's when everything happens.
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He jumped out of the car,
and he was like...
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My only thought was that I was dead.
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I was really surrounded
within 30 seconds.
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They approach me,
throw me on the floor,
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Thick on the asphalt.
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My father opened the door,
and I remember, he stuck his head out,
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came out the door
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And I just remember seeing my father,
and he was like...
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He looked at me, and I left, "Daddy, look..."
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I went, "Dad, look..."
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[voice breaking] I said , "Daddy..."
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[on tape] I am Detective Rodriguez,
partner for pinner detective, okay
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[Juan] Hei, apa yang terjadi?
Hanya itu yang ingin saya ketahui.
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[Pinner] We hope so
you will talk to us.
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Are you willing to talk to us?
about what happened?
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[Juan] What happened?
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Next, one of the detectives
appears home
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[interviewer] State your full name
For the record, sir.
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This is Juan Rodriguez.
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He said, "Okay..."
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[inhale in]
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[voice breaking]
/> He was like, "He was arrested."
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And I said, "I understand.
Why is he arrested?"
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And he is like,
" Because of Martha Puebla's murder. "
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And I said," Excuse me? "
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And I thought I was speechless
for like five minutes.
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[ narrator] Juan is imprisoned,
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was charged on May 12, 2003
Martha Puebla murder 16 years.
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The young woman has given testimony
in a separate case
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where is the brother - Juan man
is a defendant together.
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[Juan] Everyone makes mistakes.
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Only a few people make bigger mistakes
than others.
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And they are not easily canceled.
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My brother has been arrested
for murder
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And we go to the preliminary hearing.
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When we were in court, they did ask us
to give our driver's license or driver's ID.
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One thing I remember very clearly
was Martha Puebla was a witness.
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[Juan] They want it
to show the shooter in court
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But he never said anything.
He said, "I don't see anything."
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And I never thought about it.
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I...
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take it when we watch
someone testifies
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[woman] Do you really declare
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the evidence you must present
in this case
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will be the truth, the whole truth,
and nothing but the truth,
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so please help God
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I do
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[Juan on tape]
You will take my life
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for this damn nonsense
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[Pinner] This nonsense.
You kill someone
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p>
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[Juan] Wait a minute.
Those words are very strong there.
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I will never do anything to hurt anyone.
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[Pinner] Convince us otherwise.
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[Juan] I remember my cousin.
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He will always brag
about this kick-ass lawyer
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that he is an filing clerk for.
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Las Vegas.
That is the right place to go and have fun!
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We go there to uncover
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some sneak,
cheat, and sick losers,
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and they are all caught in cassette.
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When I first met Juan,
I underwent a criminal defense practice,
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as I have done for maybe ten years.
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Sure , I asked him
about the facts of the case
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I have this story...
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[chuckles]
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yang tidak saya duga.
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[attorney] Detective Pinner,
what time did the 911 call come out
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regarding the murder on May 12?
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22:43, at 10:43 p.m.
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I don't know what the evidence is,
how many witnesses they claim they have
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I don't know anything.
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[boss] On at that time
the defendant was arrested,
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Does he have facial hair?
-Yes.
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What is the face look like?
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He has a mustache and...
He doesn't shave slightly,
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with a small piece of hair
under his lower lip.
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[Juan] They show the sketch
And say that I am.
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[Pinner] Hispanic male,
black hair, very short,
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5 7 7 "to 5 5 11" ,
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19 to 25 years.
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Stocky builds, medium mustache...
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[Juan] Hair under his lips?
I have never had anything under my lips.
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- [Pinner] what's up now
- [Juan] I haven't been shaved !
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[Pinner] Okay, so you don't shave
today too
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[Juan] Why don't I shave?
my mustache?
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[Pinner] I don't know.
Because you think you're cool
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Because you think
there are no witnesses
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But there are witnesses.
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[Todd] I asked him,
"Is the death penalty mentioned?"
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Yes, the death penalty has already been stated.
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[Juan] They have paper < br /> with my photo on it,
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and they are like, "Yes, here it is."
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That's all they say: "Here it is."
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[Juan] Please, you
can't do this to me, man.
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I swear to God, man, to my two daughters
that I am very loving, human,
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I don't do this.
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[Pinner] People identify You.
Composite is you.
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[Rodriguez] You see,
the picture doesn't lie.
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[Todd] I mean, I only have a hunch,
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p>
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it's impossible for this child
to commit murder
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I mean, it looks like
really left the character.
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So I told him ,
"I'll get you out of here."
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[interviewer] Now, are you investigating
Juan Catalan in any way, form, or form
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before Did you catch it
on August 12?
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[Todd] I want to chronologically log
that detectives should follow
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every time they do something in this case.
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We show the photo to the witness.
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[interviewer] And?
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[Pinner] We verified that he had it
a clear motive.
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Then I started asking him, "Okay,
/> Do you remember where you were? "
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♪ And home ♪
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♪ Who dares ♪
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[Alma] May 12, I say,
/> "It's around Mother's Day."
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I'm like, "Do you know what?
Juan, you're playing Dodger."
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He bought several tickets for his mother
to go to Dodger's game,
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know well
he might not go away
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[chuckles] Yes, I did.
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I got the ticket, you know,
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tried to pull it
as a mother's day gift
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[the crowd shouted]
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[Todd] If we can prove it
you are in the game,
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get the case thrown out, it's easy!
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Uh... not so easy.
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[people singing
"Take me to the ball game"]
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First of all, I shouldn't be so
in that game
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[announcer] We love to welcome
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more than 2,000 El Segundo Cities
employees, family and friends
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for tonight's match
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I don't know who to take
because it's a short notice,
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so I think of my daughter, of course.
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You know, she's six years old.
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And she doesn't enter the game,
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but only he was there,
he became excited
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I brought my cousin Miguel,
who is also a sports fan,
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and my good friend , Ruben.
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Don't think much,
only other Dodger games.
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[Todd] According to eyewitnesses
and police reports,
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Martha Puebla is in her residence.
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She came outside to speak
for some other young adults,
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Right at around ten o'clock in the evening.
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[commentator] We have paid
tonight's presence, 27,458.
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[Juan] They will go back and forth...
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[crowd cheering]
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>
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[Todd] So far
that these four or five people
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were right outside Martha's house,
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[Juan] It's a tie,
goes to the ninth inning,
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and I'm like, "We're not going anywhere."
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[commentator] Éric Gagné came in.
and he will go to Mike Kinkade's place.
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[crowd shouting]
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The person driving the car
Exits the car and approaches Martha.
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[commentator] It's a strike.
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[Juan] He's in,
and I'm like, "We got this.
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You know,
he will bury this ninth innings,
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we will come
and hit the hit that wins the match. "
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[commentator] Marcus Giles, with runners
in Scoring position, hitting 0.355.
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[Todd] Martha said,
"Hey, this is Martha, you remember me."
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And the shooter says something
for the effect, "No, you don't."
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Pull the gun from his shirt,
and then shoot Martha in the head.
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[commentator] Ground ball in the middle!
Cora can't block it!
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And the runner will enter
Furcal value,
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Giles score, and the game
have come apart on Éric Gagné.
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[Juan] Oh man, they swung them
for like seven runs.
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Ties 4-4 became game 11 -4,
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and I like, "Oh, man."
It's over, let's get out of here
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[Todd] After watching
ala murder execution,
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the main and only witness in this case
dropped his cellphone
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and ran as fast as possible.
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[Juan] I grabbed my hand my daughter
and we walked towards the exit
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and I saw a baseball card stand,
So I had to stop, I had to stop.
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[Todd] The police spoke
to the cellphone owner.
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He saw tons and tons of photos
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and finally sketched
from what he thought people looked like
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who killed Martha
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[Juan] We open the wrapper,
and that's it.
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That's night, nothing else.
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[lawyer] First of all, we have
an eyewitness who identify it,
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and work with a composite artist
within a few days after the murder,
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and come with a composite
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it is very similar
for the defendant in appearance.
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The prosecutor assigned to this case
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has never lost an
murder case before in his career.
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He was killed
because he testified,
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and on the day he testified,
the May 1, 2003,
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Juan Catalan was present among the audience
during the preliminary hearing of his brother
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When this girl testifies.
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[Todd] Her nickname is Sniper,
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because she likes to choose people
with death sentence.
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[interviewer] Do you think Juan Catalan
is there a legitimate alibi at all?
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No.
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I asked Alma to find the ticket,
but didn't touch them.
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We turned the apartment upside down.
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Cannot find a ticket...
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I will show you three tickets on here.
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... until finally,
I found a Dodger envelope.
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[Todd] Which of these tickets?
What do you have?
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The next thing I did
did I contact Sam Fernandez
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Senior Vice President,
General Counsel for the Dodgers.
242
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I don't really know
what's in my mind
243
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when I receive the call
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"Now, this is another interesting day
in the office," if you want.
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He came to the stadium
and we walked to the chair.
246
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[Todd] I want
to take photos of the chair,
247
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where they are
In relation to Dodger's dining room.
248
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[chuckles] I mean,
I stood at Dodger Stadium.
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[Juan] I was shackled
250
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and put in an individual enclosure
on the corpse bus
251
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I definitely feel...
252
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that it just became...
253
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Itu ... itu menjadi nyata.
254
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I saw the county bus.
I came home from work.
255
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Uh...
256
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And I only have this strange feeling
inside me,
257
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and I cry crying
alone in the car
258
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Juan receives his call
Then that night,
259
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and calls me and tells me ,
"Alma, I saw you on the freeway."
260
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I was like, "No way!"
261
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He was like, "I see you on the freeway. "
262
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He is like," I saw you.
You will get 5 to go home,
263
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and we keep going in the opposite way. "
264
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He was like, "I wish I could jump
out of that window
265
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and go home with you."
266
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[Fernandez] Really,
What he is looking for is several ways
267
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try to identify people
272
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[Todd] So, we track people
as far west as Hawaii,
273
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and as far east as Chicago.
274
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Everyone we talk to: "You know, < br /> I really didn't see it well enough
275
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that I would feel comfortable witnessing. "
276
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[Juan] They moved me to supermax,
which is maximum security,
277
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with the toughest criminals there.
278
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You really don't know what fear is
279
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until you hear
A grown man yells ask for help.
281
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[Fernandez] Dodger Vision is what you see
on the big video screen in the stadium.
282
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Filming in our home.
283
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[Todd] I painstakingly
went through the video,
284
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tried to find Juan among 40,000 people.
285
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[Tertawa] Angka yang mengejutkan, iya.
286
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[Todd] Because I know where Juan is,
287
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It's easy to see the chair block
and count the lines.
288
00:16:24,208 --> 00:16:27,375
Every time the right hand batter is
come to bat,
289
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I'm looking for Juan or his friends
in the background.
290
00:16:31,916 --> 00:16:34,458
I feel that I am framed.
291
00:16:34,541 --> 00:16:39,083
I know you hear these stories
people are released
292
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25, 30 years later.
293
00:16:42,875 --> 00:16:46,416
And it will play in my head
over and over.
294
00:16:47,541 --> 00:16:50,041
[Todd] I'm putting everything
on super slo-mo
295
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I need one full day
to get through the three hour match,
296
00:16:53,791 --> 00:16:56,208
because I unable to lose something
297
00:17:03,250 --> 00:17:06,416
I can find Juan
sitting in that chair
298
00:17:09,708 --> 00:17:11,958
But the resolution isn't high enough.
299
00:17:14,083 --> 00:17:15,958
[Juan] Talk to kids
really tough,
300
00:17:16,041 --> 00:17:18,583
because they want to know
when I go home.
301
00:17:19,083 --> 00:17:20,583
And I don't have an answer.
302
00:17:21,916 --> 00:17:24,791
[Todd] Did I explain it to you?
that we have to tell the truth in court?
303
00:17:24,875 --> 00:17:26,875
-Do you remember that?
- [Princess Juan] Yeah.
304
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[Todd] And if I tell you
that this pen is blue,
305
00:17:29,541 --> 00:17:31,583
Is it truth or lies?
306
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Lies.
307
00:17:32,875 --> 00:17:35,541
[Todd] And if I tell you
that this microphone is white ,
308
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Is it truth or lies?
309
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Lies.
310
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[Todd] You promised to tell us
the truth of what you remember < /p>
311
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Ya.
312
00:17:43,250 --> 00:17:45,291
[Todd] Do you go to Dodger
with your father
313
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-Yes.
- [Todd] This year , last year?
314
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Yes.
315
00:17:48,791 --> 00:17:51,166
Did your father buy you
anything during the match?
316
00:17:51,250 --> 00:17:52,875
-Yes.
-What did he buy?
317
00:17:54,583 --> 00:17:55,708
[daughter] Um...
318
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p>
319
00:17:58,541 --> 00:18:00,125
Oh...
320
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Ice cream.
321
00:18:04,708 --> 00:18:06,500
And, um... candy.
322
00:18:08,458 --> 00:18:12,583
And, um...
323
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>
324
00:18:14,375 --> 00:18:16,958
and some Dodgers... um... cards.
325
00:18:17,708 --> 00:18:21,875
[Todd] Some Dodger cards?
326
00:18:21,958 --> 00:18:24,208
Where did he buy a Dodger card,
Are you remember?
327
00:18:24,291 --> 00:18:25,833
[interviewer] If Juan has an alibi,
Dodger's game, why didn't he mention it
328
00:18:26,666 --> 00:18:28,416
When the police were interviewing him
the night he was arrested?
329
00:18:30,333 --> 00:18:31,875
You must ask him.
330
00:18:31,958 --> 00:18:34,958
[Pinner on tape]
What did you do on the 12th?
331
00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:41,458
You know, these people told me
that I killed a 16 year old girl.
332
00:18:41,541 --> 00:18:43,083
Like, date...
333
00:18:43,791 --> 00:18:48,000
Like...
That was not relevant to me at the time.
334
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,958
[Todd] I asked Juan
some details about the game
335
00:18:54,041 --> 00:18:59,333
Juan had fantastic abilities > to remember the game, drama, detail...
336
00:18:59,416 --> 00:19:02,625
He said, "I thought they might be so
shooting something there."
337
00:19:02,708 --> 00:19:04,958
[Juan] I ever < br /> for hundreds of Dodger games,
338
00:19:05,041 --> 00:19:07,958
and I've never seen them
any movies there
339
00:19:08,458 --> 00:19:11,791
And today, they're there.
340
00:19:12,583 --> 00:19:16,541
[Todd] All he remembers is
security guards blocking the hallway
341
00:19:16,625 --> 00:19:19,000
and this man walks up
up and down stairs
342
00:19:19,125 --> 00:19:20,625
for different needs. >
343
00:19:23,458 --> 00:19:25,208
So I returned to Dodger Stadium,
344
00:19:25,291 --> 00:19:28,875
walked with Sam
to the Media Relations section.
345
00:19:28,958 --> 00:19:31,958
The person there
pulled out this big calendar book.
346
00:19:32,916 --> 00:19:35,833
I saw him start flipping. < br /> April may...
347
00:19:35,916 --> 00:19:37,541
And all of these pages are empty.
348
00:19:38,375 --> 00:19:39,583
He switches to May 12,
349
00:19:39,666 --> 00:19:43,000
and damn if there is no entry
on May 12.
350
00:19:43,208 --> 00:19:46,250
That's not clear
production company name,
351
00:19:46,416 --> 00:19:48,958
I don't recognize it,
but have a telephone number
352
00:19:49,375 --> 00:19:52,458
I called him, and they replied, "HBO."
353
00:19:52,833 --> 00:19:57,333
I got a cold call from a man,
"This is Todd Melnik, I am a lawyer,"
354
00:19:57,416 --> 00:19:59,916
and he tells the story This crazy.
355
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,083
He said, "Well, usually we don't release it
any pre-production recordings.
356
00:20:04,166 --> 00:20:07,916
You have to wait until it airs."
357
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,500
Pikiran pertamaku adalah, "Orang ini gila."
358
00:20:10,583 --> 00:20:13,958
And second,
"There are 56,000 people in this game.
359
00:20:14,041 --> 00:20:15,791
How could this person be in front of the camera?"
360
00:20:15,875 --> 00:20:17,291
I said, "I need to find something
361
00:20:17,375 --> 00:20:20,916
I need to place my client
at Dodger Stadium that night. "
362
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,541
Meanwhile, I spoke with Larry,
363
00:20:22,625 --> 00:20:26,208
and I was like, "Larry, there is this person
who says, you know, the person is in prison,
364
00:20:26,291 --> 00:20:29,416
and he's a lawyer and...
they remember the camera crew there,
365
00:20:29,500 --> 00:20:30,458
and they think it's us. "
366
00:20:31,041 --> 00:20:32,375
Uh... what song is that?
367
00:20:32,458 --> 00:20:33,291
[whistles]
368
00:20:33,375 --> 00:20:34,583
What song is that?
369
00:20:34,666 --> 00:20:37,208
[whistling
John Philip Sousa "The Thunderer"]
370
00:20:42,416 --> 00:20:44,291
[Curb Your Enthusiasm song playing theme]
371
00:20:44,375 --> 00:20:47,208
[Gibbons] Curb Your Enthusiasm
is comedy on HBO.
372
00:20:47,291 --> 00:20:49,333
Starry Larry David,
creator of Seinfeld.
373
00:20:49,916 --> 00:20:52,791
At that time, Larry David's name
did not ring a bell to me
374
00:20:53,916 --> 00:20:58,250
I don't know that
This giant Hollywood star.
375
00:20:58,333 --> 00:21:02,166
He's right, of course, referring to me
as a big mega star.
376
00:21:02,250 --> 00:21:04,458
It's really accurate about me.
377
00:21:04,541 --> 00:21:06,333
So he said,
"Okay, when can you go down?"
378
00:21:06,416 --> 00:21:08,416
I said, "Tomorrow?"
He said, "Okay, tomorrow."
379
00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:11,708
Just listen
that he will go there
380
00:21:11,791 --> 00:21:14,541
and see this, you know, this appeal,
381
00:21:14,625 --> 00:21:17,625
it only lifts my spirits at once.
382
00:21:18,208 --> 00:21:20,291
>
383
00:21:20,375 --> 00:21:23,333
This episode is called
"Carpool Lane."
384
00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:27,208
That is the seventh episode of season four.
385
00:21:27,291 --> 00:21:29,083
I will never succeed.
I will go home.
386
00:21:29,166 --> 00:21:31,666
The episode is that I took a prostitute
in the carpool path
387
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:33,000
and brought it to Dodger Stadium.
388
00:21:33,791 --> 00:21:36,333
Hello father.
Do you want to date Momma?
389
00:21:36,875 --> 00:21:40,458
Monena.
I have a red snapper
it will talk to you, Dad .
390
00:21:41,208 --> 00:21:42,625
[laughs]
391
00:21:45,875 --> 00:21:46,791
Enter the car.
392
00:21:47,291 --> 00:21:49,458
[man] I have never seen the show,
heard the show,
393
00:21:49,541 --> 00:21:52,708
I don't have HBO, so I don't have it
every exposure to the show
394
00:21:53,541 --> 00:21:54,833
I am a runner, I am a PA.
395
00:21:54,916 --> 00:21:57,083
You know, " Let's say this here,
go take this,
396
00:21:57,166 --> 00:21:59,000
Bring it back to the office, "
that kind of thing.
397
00:21:59,083 --> 00:22:01,333
So I don't know what I'm facing .
398
00:22:01,416 --> 00:22:03,916
and fill it with thousands of additional,
399
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,208
[laughs] That there
is a big uh-oh
401
00:22:09,041 --> 00:22:11,875
We are part of entertainment
community in Los Angeles,
402
00:22:11,958 --> 00:22:14,750
and we want to work together.
403
00:22:14,833 --> 00:22:16,375
They come back and say,
"Okay, here's what we can do."
404
00:22:16,458 --> 00:22:19,333
We show up, I believe that
in the afternoon,
405
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,916
Four or five o'clock is call time.
406
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,083
Now, I don't understand, I'm like,
407
00:22:26,166 --> 00:22:27,791
"How are we going to shoot?
in real games?
This is crazy."
408
00:22:27,875 --> 00:22:30,333
I out seat
not the way here.
409
00:22:30,416 --> 00:22:32,208
you said we had good seats, club seats and dirt
411
00:22:33,583 --> 00:22:36,041
[David] We shot in two parts.
412
00:22:36,125 --> 00:22:37,958
[David] Kami menembak dalam dua bagian.
413
00:22:38,041 --> 00:22:40,500
I don't know if they call it
a castle at Dodger Stadium,
414
00:22:40,583 --> 00:22:41,416
upper deck...
415
00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:43,875
It's very arbitrary, where we are placed.
416
00:22:45,083 --> 00:22:47,375
[Whitley] I have never seen a camera
in the Dodger game.
417
00:22:47,458 --> 00:22:49,583
I don't know if people
even know people are shooting.
418
00:22:50,458 --> 00:22:53,500
[Gibbons] We have very long lenses.
419
00:22:53,583 --> 00:22:56,125
Everything is so
we have to be almost invisible
420
00:22:56,208 --> 00:23:00,208
I have to be in a bad seat
and then look Bob Einstein.
421
00:23:00,291 --> 00:23:02,625
He played Marty Funkhouser on the show.
422
00:23:03,416 --> 00:23:05,541
[Todd] So I went
to Studio Percussion Your passions
423
00:23:05,625 --> 00:23:06,541
in Santa Monica ,
424
00:23:06,625 --> 00:23:08,791
and I was put in an editing place.
425
00:23:08,875 --> 00:23:12,625
They have an engineer installing this beta tape one by one
426
00:23:12,708 --> 00:23:14,125
and play it for me .
427
00:23:14,666 --> 00:23:16,291
[public chat]
428
00:23:20,791 --> 00:23:23,250
[Gajic] I only remember it being chaos,
be honest with you
429
00:23:23,333 --> 00:23:25,291
You have two or three people
430
00:23:26,458 --> 00:23:28,541
trying to hold thousands of people.
431
00:23:29,458 --> 00:23:33,208
In the middle of the game, my daughter
asked me, I don't remember,
432
00:23:33,291 --> 00:23:35,666
ice cream, popcorn, candy, something...
433
00:23:36,375 --> 00:23:37,916
[Todd] There are about eight tapes
434
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,916
and we enter
tape after tape after tape.
435
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,458
We go to the concession stand,
and I bought it what he wanted.
436
00:23:44,583 --> 00:23:46,208
[Todd] We started rolling on the screen
437
00:23:46,291 --> 00:23:48,958
and you know,
There are some pictures from Bob Einstein.
438
00:23:49,041 --> 00:23:52,708
-Hey, Larry, I saw you got a ticket!
-Yeah, the chair really smells bad though.
439
00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:58,250
[Juan] When I returned, there was
the right camera crew in our alley.
440
00:23:58,333 --> 00:24:01,541
[Gibbons] We shouldn't stop
people walking up and down the aisle,
441
00:24:01,625 --> 00:24:05,291
but if they don't want to be in front of the camera,
we will say, " Can you wait one minute? "
442
00:24:05,375 --> 00:24:06,875
-Could I join you?
-No.
443
00:24:07,458 --> 00:24:08,291
Why not?
444
00:24:08,375 --> 00:24:12,375
I took my daughter's hand < br /> and I tried to walk down the stairs,
445
00:24:12,458 --> 00:24:13,291
but I stopped
446
00:24:13,375 --> 00:24:15,625
-You won't let me sit there ?!!
-Not even a moment!
447
00:24:15,708 --> 00:24:19,541
These are paying customers.
We can't hold them too long.
448
00:24:19,958 --> 00:24:22,083
[Todd] There's only around
Maybe six minutes of recording
449
00:24:22,166 --> 00:24:23,333
in each of these beta bands,
450
00:24:23,416 --> 00:24:25,791
and we have
on number five or six tape.
451
00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:27,625
And I'm getting discouraged.
452
00:24:27,708 --> 00:24:28,666
[shouting]
453
00:24:28,750 --> 00:24:30,041
[David] Oh no!
454
00:24:30,666 --> 00:24:33,291
The same person who stopped me,
he looked at me,
455
00:24:33,375 --> 00:24:36,791
and then he was like,
"Hey, you What do you know? Immediately. "
456
00:24:37,916 --> 00:24:39,500
And no one let in.
457
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:41,416
Thank you.
458
00:24:41,666 --> 00:24:44,375
[Gajic] I might not even know our
rotate the camera
459
00:24:44,458 --> 00:24:49,000
And if I do it, I might be a bad PA
and let them do it anyway.
460
00:25:19,958 --> 00:25:24,041
-I really jumped from my chair
- He really jumped out of his chair.
461
00:25:24,125 --> 00:25:25,500
And there was this gasping.
462
00:25:26,583 --> 00:25:27,791
And so it was.
463
00:25:28,416 --> 00:25:29,416
Very cool
464
00:25:32,125 --> 00:25:33,541
[Gajic] Is that them there?
465
00:25:39,208 --> 00:25:40,208
Wow.
466
00:25:44,583 --> 00:25:45,666
[chuckles]
467
00:25:48,166 --> 00:25:50,458
We roll it back, make sure yes, that's it,
468
00:25:50,541 --> 00:25:52,291
we keep playing the tape,
469
00:25:52,875 --> 00:25:54,833
I think, "Wow, this is fantastic,
470
00:25:56,541 --> 00:25:58,625
I will be able to prove
that he was playing."
471
00:25:58,708 --> 00:26:01,875
[Juan] I said, "Todd, what happened?"
472
00:26:03,125 --> 00:26:05,875
And he said, "man, you are on the tape."
473
00:26:06,375 --> 00:26:10,333
And I was like .. . Please I think I let the phone go.
474
00:26:10,416 --> 00:26:13,833
I think I let the phone go.
475
00:26:13,916 --> 00:26:15,375
Then I asked him,
"When this shot?
476
00:26:15,458 --> 00:26:19,125
Do you know what time the game
shot? "
477
00:26:19,208 --> 00:26:22,333
We shoot with the time code,
which is the time of day
478
00:26:22,416 --> 00:26:26,083
Stamps in cassette
video that you can not see, it electronically.
479
00:26:26,166 --> 00:26:30,000
So we know exactly what time he shot
480
00:26:30,083 --> 00:26:32,791
the first scene at 8:55,
the last scene is at 9:15 a.m.
481
00:26:32,875 --> 00:26:36,958
Adegan pertama di 8:55,
adegan terakhir adalah pukul 09.15.
482
00:26:38,291 --> 00:26:41,666
Of course, that really... that
was interesting enough, to tell the truth.
483
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:46,458
[Todd] I saw this video as
the holy fortress of the Juan defense.
484
00:26:48,208 --> 00:26:51,833
Unless the murder takes place at 10.32.
485
00:26:52,916 --> 00:26:53,791
Trash.
486
00:26:55,333 --> 00:26:57,708
What else do we need?
Do you know?
487
00:26:57,791 --> 00:27:01,875
I was watching a video that day
they said that I killed this girl
488
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:03,750
Isn't that enough?
489
00:27:06,791 --> 00:27:09,166
[Silverman] At 10:43 at night,
490
00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:12,375
The defendant, with his own proof,
witnesses themselves,
491
00:27:12,458 --> 00:27:17,958
are on the same road as our victims,
dropping his cousin, Miguel Catalan,
492
00:27:18,041 --> 00:27:21,958
about 100 to 150 meters away
from the location of the murder,
493
00:27:22,041 --> 00:27:23,250
at the time of the murder.
494
00:27:23,333 --> 00:27:26,500
[interviewer] Become a recording of HBO,
In your opinion, is it good just for what?
495
00:27:27,291 --> 00:27:28,291
None.
496
00:27:28,750 --> 00:27:32,208
So the prosecutor will fight
which you can leave earlier
497
00:27:32,916 --> 00:27:35,166
and get away
and commit the murder.
498
00:27:35,833 --> 00:27:39,625
And... Dude,
it just brings me back down.
499
00:27:42,875 --> 00:27:45,000
[Todd] I said,
"I have to find out
500
00:27:45,083 --> 00:27:47,791
to put you
at the Dodger Stadium even longer. "
501
00:27:48,791 --> 00:27:50,291
Do you buy anything there?
502
00:27:50,375 --> 00:27:52,250
And I'm like,
" Yes, I bought a lot of stuff "
503
00:27:52,333 --> 00:27:54,916
He said," Are you using a credit card? "
I like," No. "
504
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,833
Then we started talking about cellphones.
505
00:27:58,375 --> 00:28:01,791
There is a call at 10:11 at night,
506
00:28:01,875 --> 00:28:04,000
for 49 seconds, an incoming call.
507
00:28:04,375 --> 00:28:07,083
-Who is the phone number?
- [Alma] My friend
508
00:28:07,583 --> 00:28:09,458
p>
509
00:28:09,541 --> 00:28:10,583
Yes I did.
510
00:28:11,583 --> 00:28:14,416
I kept calling Juan and calling Juan,
and I was like, "Is the game above?"
511
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:16,958
I said, "We are walk out of the stadium
right now. "
512
00:28:17,041 --> 00:28:19,958
And that might be around 10:10,
I want to say it.
513
00:28:20,041 --> 00:28:22,416
- [Todd] Do you recognize the number that?
-That's my number
514
00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:25,125
But I don't remember
if he calls me or I call him
515
00:28:25,208 --> 00:28:28,125
You must remember
every little detail of your life
516
00:28:28,208 --> 00:28:30,416
You always think
that might not happen to you, but...
517
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,250
Only in theaters, only on TV...
518
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,125
[Todd ] I know, from the involvement of
as commentator
519
00:28:37,208 --> 00:28:38,708
on OJ
Simpson's case,
520
00:28:38,791 --> 00:28:41,041
When he did his fast chase,
521
00:28:41,125 --> 00:28:44,083
that the police can find out which
cell tower
522
00:28:44,166 --> 00:28:47,916
is pinging the cellphone
when the call is transmitted
523
00:28:48,666 --> 00:28:49,916
That's how they found it.
524
00:28:51,208 --> 00:28:56,583
The first phone call I got from Todd
After the court order was released.
525
00:28:57,875 --> 00:29:00,500
We basically released
telephone records, wire taps
526
00:29:00,583 --> 00:29:04,041
Because, you know, law enforcement agents,
and various types of entities.
527
00:29:04,875 --> 00:29:08,833
And I happen to get the case
with just luck drawing, you know.
528
00:29:08,916 --> 00:29:11,166
What is the first number
that you recognize?
529
00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:12,083
Mine.
530
00:29:12,166 --> 00:29:13,708
[Boggs] Because of the nature of the case,
531
00:29:13,791 --> 00:29:15,833
Todd was very, very persistent.
532
00:29:16,750 --> 00:29:20,291
That was one of those situations
where he had to go above and in outside
533
00:29:20,375 --> 00:29:22,166
because we have the ability to see
534
00:29:22,250 --> 00:29:25,833
what cellular towers are actual phone calls
are pinging off.
535
00:29:25,916 --> 00:29:29,333
This will show exactly where
someone is in a certain time period.
536
00:29:32,916 --> 00:29:34,541
[Todd] The cell tower that Juan uses
537
00:29:34,625 --> 00:29:37,458
Just across the road
from Dodger Stadium,
538
00:29:37,541 --> 00:29:40,833
and fingers
for that one one mile.
539
00:29:41,875 --> 00:29:46,666
So I know Juan is at Dodger Stadium
at least 10:12 .
540
00:29:47,375 --> 00:29:51,750
[Todd] The cell tower used
to receive calls at 10:11 at night?
541
00:29:52,416 --> 00:29:57,833
10:11 at night,
cell site is NCA 6581...
542
00:29:57,916 --> 00:30:03,708
[woman] Instead of giving me a diagram
of who the phone number is,
543
00:30:03,791 --> 00:30:07,958
I'm listening to a number,
trying record the number and time,
544
00:30:08,041 --> 00:30:11,583
and I'm really confused.
545
00:30:13,250 --> 00:30:14,791
What I know about this case
546
00:30:14,875 --> 00:30:19,208
is the defendant
may see the death penalty
547
00:30:19,291 --> 00:30:21,500
if he is finally found guilty
548
00:30:22,166 --> 00:30:26,750
And that scared me... beyond words.
549
00:30:29,875 --> 00:30:31,541
[Dunn] In a preliminary hearing,
550
00:30:31,625 --> 00:30:35,833
would I send this person
to the jury's court ,
551
00:30:35,916 --> 00:30:38,791
or I will make a decision
to fire it
552
00:30:39,291 --> 00:30:43,000
I always realize
from time pressure.
553
00:30:43,666 --> 00:30:46,541
[Juan] I will go go to court
with Todd, sit down...
554
00:30:47,041 --> 00:30:52,291
Ten, fifteen minutes max, they will talk
back and forth in the lawyer jargon
555
00:30:52,375 --> 00:30:55,208
and things- things I don't know
what they are talking about
556
00:30:57,416 --> 00:31:02,375
Okay, see the next date, and the next date,
and so on, it goes like that.
557
00:31:03,625 --> 00:31:05,708
[Dunn] I agree, to save time,
558
00:31:05,791 --> 00:31:10,791
I will take
audio recordings of interrogation to my house.
559
00:31:11,791 --> 00:31:15,125
I know that I can listen to it
as much as what I want,
560
00:31:15,916 --> 00:31:17,000
I did
561
00:31:17,625 --> 00:31:20,125
[Juan on tape] you guys are making
the biggest mistake
562
00:31:20,708 --> 00:31:23,458
[Pinner] Tonight, you made
the biggest mistake of your life
563
00:31:23,541 --> 00:31:25,208
[Juan recorded] No.
564
00:31:25,291 --> 00:31:27,291
You will remember this,
565
00:31:27,375 --> 00:31:31,208
because you tried to pin
someone who has nothing to do with this
566
00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:35,416
I listen to the tape
repeatedly.
567
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:37,500
I make my children listen to it.
568
00:31:38,333 --> 00:31:42,333
And I keep asking them,
like I really asked myself,
569
00:31:42,416 --> 00:31:45,208
"Is this the voice of a guilty person?"
570
00:31:46,041 --> 00:31:47,458
[low chat]
571
00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:55,333
[Juan] I am waiting Todd
Come to tell me.
572
00:31:56,083 --> 00:31:59,833
I remember, he told me that,
As soon as I walked in the door,
573
00:32:00,458 --> 00:32:04,250
not to look at the side of the audience,
which is on the left side.
574
00:32:05,208 --> 00:32:08,541
The Martha family is in the chair.
575
00:32:10,791 --> 00:32:14,791
[Dunn] I remember being sad
> with this case
576
00:32:15,416 --> 00:32:17,125
I can't release it from my mind.
577
00:32:18,375 --> 00:32:19,833
And I oscillate,
578
00:32:21,833 --> 00:32:24,250
tries to determine
how I will rule
579
00:32:25,541 --> 00:32:28,458
Martha Puebla is at stake for me.
580
00:32:29,041 --> 00:32:31,541
[Todd] this man
will face the death penalty
581
00:32:31,625 --> 00:32:33,625
if he does not, by the grace of God,
582
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,291
>
583
00:32:36,375 --> 00:32:37,916
got a Dodger
ticket from someone the day before
584
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,625
and invited these people,
585
00:32:41,708 --> 00:32:45,666
was caught on the video from the HBO program...
586
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:49,208
You hear the interview recording
with Detective Pinner
587
00:32:49,291 --> 00:32:53,250
This is clearly the case of ID one witness.
588
00:32:54,125 --> 00:32:55,958
has no motive for lying,
589
00:32:56,416 --> 00:33:00,583
and making a composite image
with composite artists
590
00:33:00,666 --> 00:33:04,666
is very similar to
for the defendant's appearance.
591
00:33:05,375 --> 00:33:11,333
I have no doubt who the eyewitness
attempted to be credible,
592
00:33:11,416 --> 00:33:15,000
But he observed this murder
on a dark residential street
593
00:33:15,083 --> 00:33:18,041
under clear which most traumatic
circumstance.
594
00:33:18,125 --> 00:33:21,125
[Juan] He starts talking and talking,
595
00:33:21,208 --> 00:33:22,458
and speaks...
596
00:33:22,916 --> 00:33:25,875
And I don't understand a word he said.
597
00:33:25,958 --> 00:33:30,416
Todd sat on my left,
and he bowed.
598
00:33:31,625 --> 00:33:34,000
And then he said, "It's over."
599
00:33:36,583 --> 00:33:37,916
And I said, "What?"
600
00:33:38,875 --> 00:33:40,583
Then...
601
00:33:44,250 --> 00:33:48,125
- [woman] We will have a problem!
- [Alma] Oh, my God!
602
00:33:49,958 --> 00:33:52,333
[Alma] Go and give your father a hug!
603
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:57,833
[both speak indistinctly]
604
00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:06,458
Hi!
605
00:34:09,166 --> 00:34:10,208
[sniffing]
606
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:13,250
Everything ends.
607
00:34:14,875 --> 00:34:17,791
[women speak language Spanish and laugh]
608
00:34:17,875 --> 00:34:18,916
[Alma] Sorry, Todd.
609
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000
-Thank you, Todd.
-Your welcome, man.
610
00:34:22,375 --> 00:34:23,291
[ Todd sighs]
611
00:34:23,375 --> 00:34:25,250
-I owe you, man.
-Yes, right.
612
00:34:25,916 --> 00:34:27,125
[Alma] You owe your life!
613
00:34:27,208 --> 00:34:28,458
-I owe you to you.
-All right.
614
00:34:29,916 --> 00:34:32,291
[Juan] Todd gave me
the last hug and only...
615
00:34:33,916 --> 00:34:36,875
It seems like he just drove his car > to sunset, like...
616
00:34:36,958 --> 00:34:38,250
[chuckles]
617
00:34:38,333 --> 00:34:39,333
As it should.
618
00:34:39,416 --> 00:34:43,583
And, you know, leave me there
with my family and...
619
00:34:44,333 --> 00:34:46,291
I got into the car and they said...
620
00:34:46,958 --> 00:34:51,000
You know, they're all very happy
and happy, like me,
621
00:34:51,083 --> 00:34:53,500
and they are like,
"Okay, okay, what do you want?
622
00:34:53,583 --> 00:34:55,208
We will buy you as you are. "
623
00:34:55,291 --> 00:34:57,666
And I like," What I want...
624
00:34:58,166 --> 00:35:00,125
What I want, to be honest,
625
00:35:00,666 --> 00:35:01,750
is Coke.
626
00:35:01,833 --> 00:35:02,750
I don't have...
627
00:35:03,166 --> 00:35:05,750
You don't have soda,
there's nothing there, man.
628
00:35:05,833 --> 00:35:07,916
What am I just Coke, that's all.
629
00:35:10,291 --> 00:35:12,708
[interviewer] Did you know
incriminating evidence?
630
00:35:12,791 --> 00:35:13,666
-Yes.
-All right.
631
00:35:13,750 --> 00:35:16,125
Do you ask Mr. Catalan's question
632
00:35:16,208 --> 00:35:20,666
to try to get
a damning response?
633
00:35:23,291 --> 00:35:24,333
Yes.
634
00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:36,333
[interviewer] Is it You tried to trick
Juan Catalan after he was arrested,
635
00:35:36,583 --> 00:35:40,000
with the circle around the photo?
636
00:35:42,041 --> 00:35:43,041
Yes sir.
637
00:35:43,125 --> 00:35:46,083
[interviewer] That...
not honest, right?
638
00:35:58,708 --> 00:36:00,208
[ man] We will start
639
00:36:00,291 --> 00:36:03,333
with US lawyers,
Deborah Wong Yang.
640
00:36:03,416 --> 00:36:06,500
The indictment alleges
that some members of the gang
641
00:36:06,583 --> 00:36:09,083
killed a 16-year-old girl,
642
00:36:09,166 --> 00:36:12,250
who had witnessed it
the gang's fault
643
00:36:12,333 --> 00:36:14,000
and worked with the police.
644
00:36:23,083 --> 00:36:26,208
Maybe, I don't know, every few years,
645
00:36:26,291 --> 00:36:29,750
someone will lift it or something,
and I will tell it.
646
00:36:29,833 --> 00:36:33,750
Maybe I will tell it at a party,
how do I free a man from murder
647
00:36:33,833 --> 00:36:35,375
You know, um...
648
00:36:35,875 --> 00:36:38,375
Impressive dating with that, I don't know.
649
00:36:39,916 --> 00:36:42,541
- [chuckles]
- [playing organ of baseball]
650
00:36:42,625 --> 00:36:44,208
[the crowd cheers and sings]
651
00:36:44,291 --> 00:36:46,958
♪ Take me to a ball game ♪
652
00:36:47,041 --> 00:36:50,166
♪ Take me to the crowd ♪
653
00:36:51,083 --> 00:36:54,500
♪ Buy some nuts and crackers ♪
654
00:36:55,333 --> 00:36:57,791
♪ I don't care if I never come back ♪
655
00:36:57,875 --> 00:37:00,416
[Alma] Things keep repeating
in my head, over and over
656
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:01,708
and over and over,
657
00:37:01,791 --> 00:37:06,875
Imagine he would stay at home
to watch the match
658
00:37:06,958 --> 00:37:09,708
Who would they believe?
His mother?
I ?
659
00:37:10,958 --> 00:37:13,083
My daughter?
"Oh, my father is here."
660
00:37:13,166 --> 00:37:14,666
How, how do you prove -
661
00:37:15,416 --> 00:37:16,833
It's just crazy.
662
00:37:21,166 --> 00:37:22,708
[remote baseball comment]
663
00:37:26,166 --> 00:37:27,875
[Fernandez] This is a dangerous thing to do,
664
00:37:27,958 --> 00:37:31,750
to look at life
from "What if?"
perspective.
665
00:37:33,083 --> 00:37:35,666
What if we don't do it?
deal with Larry David?
666
00:37:35,750 --> 00:37:39,416
What if the camera crew hasn't gone
to the hall on the double field?
667
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,083
What if her daughter has already decided
that she doesn't want to go to the game?
668
00:37:44,916 --> 00:37:46,750
What if he doesn't call?
669
00:37:47,666 --> 00:37:49,125
What if, what if, what if...
670
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:53,458
All life is "What if?"
671
00:37:53,541 --> 00:37:55,958
The next few minutes are "What if?"
672
00:37:57,125 --> 00:37:58,916
[remote baseball comment]
673
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,250
[commentator]... You can now be sure
that we will see John Smoltz.
674
00:38:03,666 --> 00:38:05,291
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