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I hate it around here,
I hated so much.

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My house burnt down and stuff
because I'm a fighter.

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It's just ridiculous,
an entire living like that.

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Confining myself into this house
so I can stay alive.

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I remember what it's like to grow up
in a place where you feel trapped alone.

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Where safer to be silent
than to be yourself.

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I remember because I was born
and raised in the same place as C J.

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Oil City.

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A small town with small town values,

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in the hills of western Pennsylvania.

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I was the youngest
in a big irish catholic family.

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Mom was a nurse, and dad was

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Custodian at the catholic
school we all attended.

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We didn't have much money,
but life was good,

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And I didn't have a care
in the world.

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As I got older, I started
to feel a lilltle different.

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By the time I was a teen,
I realized that I was gay.

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I'm like C J.
I was too afraid to let anyone know.

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So I kept silent and managed to get by.

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As soon as I graduated
high school,

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I got out of town.

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I went off to college,

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Joined the peace corps,
and found myself

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identifying with others who had
been silenced.

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I ended up in washington, D.C.

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I met Dean playing pickup basketball.

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We got along right from the start,

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and before long we found
love and got married.

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That's when I decided to do what I
wish I could have done a long time ago

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Be open about who I was
back in my hometown.

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I put our wedding announcement
in Oil's City paper,

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The Derrick.

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It didn't take long

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For the letters
to start pouring in.

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Woman:
"editor: Common sense tells us

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Marriage is between
a man and a woman."

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Man: "I am shaking with anger
as I write this."

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Woman: "I was sick to my stomach

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When I saw and read
the announcement..."

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Man: "Homosexuality is immoral."

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Man: "it would be better
for you not to have been born.

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Think about that."

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The reactions
to my wedding announcement

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didn't really surprise me.

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Then I got a letter
I didn't expect.

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"Dear mr. Wilson,

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I searched for your address
in washington, D.C.,

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"after I saw your wedding
announcement in the paper.

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"I'm the mother
of a 16-year-old boy

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"who is being treated unjustly
because he is gay.

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"I was told you were
born and raised in oil city,

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"so I feel a connection to you.

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"last night, my son,
C.J., cried for three hours

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"after being abused in public
because of being gay.

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"I'm so afraid for him.

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"I don't know where else
to turn.

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"please help if you can.

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Sincerely, Kathy Springer."

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Kathy's letter made me realize

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that things hadn't change
that much in oil city.

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Here it was. 25 years after my own fear
of being found out forced me to keep quiet.

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In kids like C J still had
to live in silence.

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I wanted to go back to oil city
to meet C J and Kathy,

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and to help document her story.

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I asked Dean to grab the camera.

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� I dreamed of fires burning �

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� low �

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� in my head �

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� on a map below �

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� like an old friend �

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� that I used to know �

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� I've got seven hours �

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� and 15 miles to go �

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� instead �

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� and ain't it good �

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� to be back home? �

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Young man: This was my school.

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Every day when the bus stopped

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and I walked through that door
to my locker

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became eight hours of pure hell.

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Wilson: What went on in there?

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Well, kids would come by,
hit me with my locker,

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I'd fall on the ground,

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My books would fly everywhere.

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I was slammed into the lockers,

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Hit with stuff,
being yelled, "faggot."

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Yep.

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This hall was always lovely.

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I'd have to walk through a crowd

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Of kids, and there would
always definitely be

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Some tripping going on
or shoving or pushing.

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Grab my backpack and yanking me,

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And stupid stuff.

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What did you feel inside

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when that kind of stuff
was happening?

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Terrified. Nobody cared.

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None of the teachers cared.

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None of
the administrators cared.

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They always gave a deaf ear

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And a blind eye.

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They'd watch everything,
never say a word.

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Wilson: I wanted to understand

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why my home town was still so
hostile to kids like C J.

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It seemed like talking with people

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who denounced our wedding
announcement in the paper

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Would be a logical place
to start.

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Only one couple
agreed to be interviewed.

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Pastor Mark Micklos and his wife, Diana.

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If I grant two men
the right to get married,

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what's wrong with incest

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or polygamy or -
and it would just,

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just expands,
and I think that things -

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I think at times
we've seen that happen.

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In plumbing, there's fittings,

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And they're called
male and female fittings.

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And you could probably

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Plumb a house
with all male fittings,

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But it seems like the design
is for male and female,

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Not for two likes
to be together.

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It was hard to listen to what
the Mickloses were saying,

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But the fact that they
invited us to their home

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And we were talking
seemed like an opening.

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When I asked them why
they had taken the trouble

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To write about
our wedding announcement,

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They told me that their church
had received an alert

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That asked members
to write in protest.

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It was sent by the
Pennsylvania arm

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of the american family
association,

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A conservative values organization
based in Mississippi.

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How did they key in

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on our little wedding
announcement so fast?

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It turns out that the AFA's
chapter president,

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Diane gramley,
lives right there in the area

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And has a program
on a local radio station.

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Woman: Welcome to

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"American Family Focus
on Pennsylvania issues,"

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A weekly program which discusses

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some of the happenings
that are of concern

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to the family and those who hold
traditional values in Pennsylvania.

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And now your host,

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Diane Gramley, state director
of American Family Association

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of Pennsylvania.

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Gramley: The question
comes down to,

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Should a lifestyle that will
result in the destruction

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Of traditional marriage
and the natural family -

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Not even mentioning

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The physical, mental,
and psychological dangers

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To those involved
in this lifestyle -

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Be normalized and codified
into the laws of the land?

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Those involved in this
lifestyle are sinners,

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And they need to accept
the saving grace

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Of jesus christ,
just like you and me.

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Wilson: Back when
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People didn't talk about
lifestyle so openly.

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And at my house,

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Sexuality or being gay
wasn't discussed at all.

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Even though right on our street,

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Just two doors down
from our house,

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We had a neighbor with
a rainbow flag on her door.

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Woman: I've lived
in this community

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Since I was 17 years old,
and I've always been open.

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I mean, I never wore
my sexuality on a sleeve,

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But people always
knew who I was.

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Nobody was ever negative to me,
except one occasion.

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I was hired at this firm,

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And I worked there
about six months,

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And then the president
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After the christmas party -
and I took my partner -

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Came in a few days later
and fired me.

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Said he couldn't have the likes

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Of somebody like me
working for the company.

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Okay.

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Be good, you guys.

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Come here. Come on.

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This is my house

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Where my stepdad
sells smelly birds.

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Wilson: "choo-kers?" chukars
or something like that?

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Chukars.

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Chukars, quails, and pheasants.

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Probably stinks.

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Yeah, it stinks.

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Okay, the smell is
a little too much,

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Okay, it's a little too real.

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That is not a place for -

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Bills: The first day we came
back from christmas vacation,

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This kid, richie"

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Who everybody's known
he was gay since, like,

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The day he was born,
came back to school.

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And I went into
my history class,

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Last period of the day,

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And some kid stood up
and came over to him,

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'cause he was
standing by the door

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'cause he didn't have
a seat or anything yet -

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And some kid was like,
"hey, are you a faggot?"

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And I stood up,
and I got in his face,

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And I was like,
"why you got to call him that?

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"what did he do to you?

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"he's just standing there,
hasn't said a word to anybody.

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Leave him alone."

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And he's like, "what? So are
you a hard-ass homo then?"

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He's like, "you think
you can take me?"

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And I was like, "dude,
I might be a faggot,

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But I'm more of a man
than you'll be."

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And he's like,
"so you're admitting it?"

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And I was like, "I am admitting

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"that if you say another
word to me like that again,

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I am going to take
your teeth out."

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There was a lot he
didn't even tell me,

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You know, at first,

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Because he'd come home,

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And he'd be real quiet,
and he'd go to his room,

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And he wouldn't
come out for hours.

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I said, "you know, C.J.,

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"there is nothing you could
possibly be in this world

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That would ever make
me stop loving you."

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So then, finally,
one day, he says,

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"I'm tired of denying who I am,

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"and I'm tired of the abuse

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"and the harassment
that gays take,

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"and I'm just coming out with it,
I don't care."

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C.J. told me we wanted to
make videos himself.

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So we gave him a camera

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and helped him get started
by filming one of his friends.

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Hamer: And if you want
a close-up,

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You go like that.

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Oops. Or whatever.

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And if you want far away,
you go like that.

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So you try it. Film something.

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That's awesome.

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I was hoping C.J.
would use his camera

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to show what life was like for him
as a gay teen.

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For practice, I asked him
to join us at a concert

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I helped to organize featuring
my friend Namoli Brennet.

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I'm so, so happy to be here.

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Namoli's a transgendered
musician from a small town,

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who lives her life very openly.

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I thought she might
be an inspiration

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for folks in oil city.

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There wasn't a big crowd,

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but they seemed to connect
with Namoli and her music.

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And I received some gifts,
I received some little

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cruets of crude oil.

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I thought the salt and dressing,

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Oil. Not oli on... but oil!

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� you don't know when
you're gonna find me �

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� you don't know when
you're gonna take me �

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� home �

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Wilson: Oil city used to be a very
different kind of place.

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Back in 1859

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when colonel Edwin Drake

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drilled the first oil well
in the United States there.

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It became a boomtown, full
of new people and fresh ideas.

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The growth and prosperity
lasted for another 100 years,

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as the oil city became a refining
and industrial center

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and a melting pot for immigrants
from all over Europe.

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There was a lot of money in oil, say,

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and people used it to build imposing banks,

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public libraries,

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tall spired churches of
all denominations,

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and elegant Victorian houses.

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But by the time I came along,

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the big refineries and manufacturing
plants had all shut down.

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And jobs and people
were moving out.

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The population dropped by half.

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It become the sort of rust belt town

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that time seemed
to be leaving behind,

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Where things didn't change much

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And outsiders were viewed
with suspicion.

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Like many small towns,

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Oil city is trying
to make a comeback.

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It still has its history and
plenty of small town charme.

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But it's not clear if that will be enough.

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Brennet: � I can be �

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� myself �

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Thanks, everybody.

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Wilson: The biggest event
of the year in oil city

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Is the oil heritage parade.

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Most people come out
to watch their kids March

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Or their friends ride around
on silly floats.

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Even in the pouring rain.

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So I wasn't expecting to see
an anti-gay marriage protest

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Led by none other
than Diane Gramley

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Of the American Family Association.

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She'd already refused
several requests

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To be formally interviewed,

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So I tried a more
direct approach.

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Hi, Dane. How are you?

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Fine, and you?

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I'm not going to be part
of your documentary.

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Yeah, we just wanted to know why

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You're so actively seeking

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To discriminate against
gay and lesbian people.

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We talked about it on the phone.

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Well, why do you think
that they don't deserve

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To live freely
in society as you do?

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They have every right
to live freely,

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And they are living
freely in society.

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I would like to know why
you encourage children

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To participate in
a dangerous lifestyle.

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Hey, Joe, how you doing?

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Good, and you? Nice to see you.

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Good seeing you. Yeah.

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Gramley: There've been
homosexuals throughout society,

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But they have not attempted

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To redefine marriage
and family as they are today.

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Everything else with gay
people is okay, right?

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They can teach school.

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If they have a job,
and they're doing their job,

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They have every right
to have that job.

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And they could be out on
the job and tell people

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That they're gay
when they're asked?

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No, 'cause that's
promoting a lifestyle.

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Well, I know that.

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Wilson: Things had
become increasingly bad

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At C.J.'s high school.

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When he finally complained about
the abuse he was receiving,

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The assistant principal
blamed him for the trouble

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And called the state police.

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Kathy decided to take C.J.
Out of school

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And go to the school board
for answers.

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All: One nation under god,

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Indivisible, with liberty
and justice for all.

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Woman: Any other
business to enter?

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My name's - oh, I'm sorry.

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Please state your name
for the record.

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My name is Kathy Springer.

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Have you implemented,

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Or are you going to implement

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A change in how
discrimination is handled

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In this school district?

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I recently had
to pull my son out

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Because of discrimination
and how it was handled.

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Are you - is there a better
way of handling things?

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Man: Ma'am, do me a favor.
Will you give me a call?

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Okay? This isn't the time to -

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I just, as a taxpayer,
wanted to know if -

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You know, should I decide
to send my son back?

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Are there going to be any changes?
That's all.

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There have been
discussions taking place,

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And there have been issues

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Not only with myself
and mr. Richmond,

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Mr. Forrester,
and the other principals,

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So I don't know if that's -

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But, please, feel free
to give me a call, okay?

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It was like, "oh, god,

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Give her her five minutes
and get her out of here."

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I really don't see that they've
seen us as a threat or anything.

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We were just an annoyance.

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Mm-hmm.

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Wilson: Shortly after
kathy's appearance,

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The school board did
propose a plan

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For inclusive
anti-discrimination training.

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But there was suddenly
an unusual amount

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Of opposition from
the community,

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Especially from
an african-american pastor

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Who wanted the training
to focus only on race

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And not even mention
sexual orientation.

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A Derrick reporter discovered

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The reason for
the racial outcry.

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Diane Gramley had sent out
another action alert.

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This one accused the school district

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Of trying to hijack civil rights
to promote homosexuality.

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The diversity training
never happened.

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I have to admit,
in this environment,

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It was a clever strategy

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To pit one minority group
against another.

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I'll tell you what we're doing.

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We got married
a couple years ago"

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And we put our wedding
announcement in the paper,

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And it turned into this, like,
controversy or whatever.

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I got beat up about a month ago.

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What? Oh, yeah.

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I never thought people
were racist or anything.

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I'm arab, and this girl
wouldn't stop talking crap,

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And I faced her in lunch,
and she ploughed me right down.

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There was blood all over me.

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I didn't have a chance.

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This place is rough.

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If you are not a man

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With white

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And who likes to do
the missionary position,

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It's over.

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Wilson: Although gay
people are everywhere,

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We're not always visible.

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Roxanne and some of her friends

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Wanted to change that
in oil city.

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They put together a volunteer
group to participate

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In community activities
like town cleanup day.

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What are you guys up to today?

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Man: Everybody that's
driving by thinks

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That we're on work release
and that's why we're out here.

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Wilson: Would you mind saying

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A little bit of
a word right now?

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Just being out in
the community doing something,

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Just helping.

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It's kind of a nasty day,
but we did it anyway.

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Hey, Greg.

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What?

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Can you say a little bit
About what you're doing today?

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Wilson: Cleanup day was supposed
to be a community-wide event,

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But we only saw
one other volunteer

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Who wasn't part
of Roxanne's group.

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So I asked her,

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"if there were a visible gay
and lesbian group in oil city

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Would anyone in
the community object?"

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I guess you're going to have
radicals everywhere,

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And they'll find a way to
articulate what bothers them.

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But how can you target people
who are doing something good?

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You know?

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Brennet: � ain't it good
to be back home? �

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Me being me? Yeah..

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I definitely want to see that.

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Oh, no.

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C.J., is there anything on there

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You don't want me to see?

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Is this on?

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Hello out there.

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Okay.

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Boy: That hurt?

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� I'm feeling so unique �

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� I'm feeling really funky �

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� I kind of like this beat �

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� could this be a dream? �

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� sometimes it's hard
to tell the difference �

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� I made �

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� too many hazy nights �

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� too many lonely days �

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Stop, C.J.

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� set me free �

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� come on and set me free �

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� I got to set me free �

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Jesus Christ!

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I think I got spina bifida. Cut.

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I know.

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Boy: He went "Oops."

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Wilson: How do you feel,
as a parent,

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That the cyber school
is the option -

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That I had to turn to?

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00:20:15,980 --> 00:20:18,148
I don't like the idea, no.

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My son, I wanted him to
be able to be involved

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With all the other
school activities,

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The camaraderie,
you know, everything,

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The prom, the whole schmear,
you know.

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And I feel that he was gypped.

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He doesn't have that interaction

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That I think he needs.

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Hitchcock: Y know, one thing
about living in a small town

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Is that the gene pool
is so limited.

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You know, trying to meet
somebody is really hard.

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Wilson: So who's this special
lady that's in your life?

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Her name is Linda.

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Where's she at?

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I'll never forget
how excited you were

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When I talked to you
on the phone,

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And you said,
"Oh, I met somebody."

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00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,901
Henderson: Well,
the cool part about it

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Is everybody's saying
the same thing about me.

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00:21:37,837 --> 00:21:39,805
People asking me what in
the world's going on

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'cause I'm running
around smiling a lot.

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00:21:41,574 --> 00:21:44,309
You know, all of the sudden,

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I've been telling people
I have a family now.

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Hitchcock: In some ways, she's
the total opposite of me.

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00:21:51,084 --> 00:21:53,952
You know, I can be aggressive
and antagonistic,

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And she's just kind of quiet
and the peacemaker,

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And she's just calm.

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00:21:59,826 --> 00:22:02,995
And she's very gifted.
She's great with people.

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00:22:02,996 --> 00:22:06,132
She is the best thing
that ever happened to me.

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Henderson:
� I was with George Washington �

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� one night at Valley Forge �

471
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� "why do the soldiers
freeze here like they do?" �

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00:22:17,543 --> 00:22:21,380
� he said,
"men will suffer, fight �

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00:22:21,581 --> 00:22:24,149
� "even die for what is right �

474
00:22:24,350 --> 00:22:26,152
� "even though they know �

475
00:22:26,453 --> 00:22:29,555
� they're only
passing through" �

476
00:22:29,556 --> 00:22:34,226
� passing through �

477
00:22:34,227 --> 00:22:37,096
� sometimes happy,
sometimes blue �

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00:22:37,097 --> 00:22:40,232
� glad that I ran into you �

479
00:22:40,233 --> 00:22:42,535
� I've some little time �

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00:22:42,536 --> 00:22:47,640
� now I'm just passing through �

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Wilson: Whoo.

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Beautiful voice.

483
00:22:52,078 --> 00:22:54,313
Thank you.

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Since I was told I could do a Powerpoint on
anything I wanted to do that interested me,

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00:23:00,461 --> 00:23:05,061
I choose something that I know a lot about,
which is the struggle of GLBT,

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00:23:05,085 --> 00:23:08,285
Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and
Trandgender people in our country.

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00:23:08,309 --> 00:23:13,509
7 years ago, a Wyoming young man named Matthew
Shepard, a 21 year old college student,

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00:23:13,533 --> 00:23:18,533
was taken out to the desert and savagely
beaten to death for being and openly gay man.

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And there's... that says:
What part of love don't you understand?

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C.J. was doing a project on discrimination
from one of his cyberschool classes.

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00:23:27,005 --> 00:23:31,505
When he asked me where he could find information
about the question about what makes people gay,

492
00:23:31,529 --> 00:23:33,929
I told him he might want to interview
a real expert.

493
00:23:33,953 --> 00:23:37,653
I'm Dr. Dean Hamer, I work at the
National Institutes of Health,

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00:23:37,977 --> 00:23:43,377
and I've been working on the genetics of
human personality the last few years.

495
00:23:44,101 --> 00:23:48,001
Did you get through a lot of controversy when
you first came out with the thought that:

496
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"Oh, I'm gonna... you know, look for...
wide gay people that way".

497
00:23:51,749 --> 00:23:57,549
When I decided to study sexual orientation, the
reaction from most of my scientific colleagues was:

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"What are you doing? No one 's ever done
that before. Is that really scientific?"

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00:24:03,097 --> 00:24:05,597
And of course if they thought about it
a little bit, they'd say:

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"Actually it's a really important
problem, you should study that."

501
00:24:09,045 --> 00:24:12,045
Almost every aspect in personality
has a strong genetic basis.

502
00:24:12,669 --> 00:24:15,469
Being gay is just one of those.
It just happens to be more

503
00:24:15,493 --> 00:24:17,493
controversial than most
of the other ones.

504
00:24:17,517 --> 00:24:23,117
All right, well, if it's only a gene that can be destroyed,
why can't we just destroy it, and thus be straight?

505
00:24:23,741 --> 00:24:27,841
Because it's not just a gene, it's also
what happens in your brain,

506
00:24:27,865 --> 00:24:34,265
your pattern of thoughts, of feelings and
emotions that develop over your entire life.

507
00:24:34,389 --> 00:24:40,389
So even though that they have started out, has no
more than a few genes, a few cells in your brain.

508
00:24:40,413 --> 00:24:43,413
It is now part of who you are.

509
00:24:43,437 --> 00:24:49,237
So changing your orientation would be
the same as changing everything about you,

510
00:24:49,261 --> 00:24:52,761
which nobody can do and which nobody
should be forced to do.

511
00:24:53,185 --> 00:24:58,385
All right, is it OK if I use your comments, and
you and your partner's faces in this video?

512
00:24:58,409 --> 00:25:00,709
Yes, that would be fine.

513
00:25:00,733 --> 00:25:02,733
- Joe?
- I do agree with this. Yes.

514
00:25:03,157 --> 00:25:04,457
OK.

515
00:25:06,381 --> 00:25:10,481
I wasn't sure if we'd hear again from the folks who
condemned our wedding announcement in the paper.

516
00:25:10,509 --> 00:25:11,509
Hey. How are you?

517
00:25:11,530 --> 00:25:14,332
But when pastor Micklos called to
invite us to lunch with his family,

518
00:25:14,451 --> 00:25:16,452
I thought I'd see
where it would lead.

519
00:25:16,653 --> 00:25:19,055
When you contacted me
or I contacted you

520
00:25:19,056 --> 00:25:21,223
Or however it occurred,

521
00:25:21,224 --> 00:25:22,825
One of the things that I prayed

522
00:25:22,826 --> 00:25:25,694
Was that you would
see Christ in us.

523
00:25:25,695 --> 00:25:28,063
I just don't see my life through
a christian framework.

524
00:25:28,064 --> 00:25:31,100
That's just not how I want
to view the world, you know.

525
00:25:31,101 --> 00:25:33,469
But can we,
at some point though,

526
00:25:33,470 --> 00:25:35,671
Get to a point where
we respect that

527
00:25:35,672 --> 00:25:37,339
And respect each other?

528
00:25:37,740 --> 00:25:39,608
Well, no.

529
00:25:41,277 --> 00:25:44,479
I mean, I can respect
your christian beliefs,

530
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,615
But if

531
00:25:46,683 --> 00:25:48,984
Some of those beliefs

532
00:25:48,985 --> 00:25:51,320
Are aimed at limiting

533
00:25:51,321 --> 00:25:54,022
Other people's full
participation in society,

534
00:25:54,023 --> 00:25:55,691
No, I can't respect that.

535
00:25:55,792 --> 00:25:57,126
I have to struggle against that.

536
00:25:57,327 --> 00:26:00,863
I can respect
the Mark Micklos that I know

537
00:26:00,864 --> 00:26:02,364
In hopes that he reaches

538
00:26:02,365 --> 00:26:04,333
A higher point of enlightenment,

539
00:26:04,334 --> 00:26:06,135
And that I would be his friend,

540
00:26:06,136 --> 00:26:07,936
You know, through that process.

541
00:26:07,937 --> 00:26:09,838
And that's where we're at.

542
00:26:09,839 --> 00:26:12,007
Yeah.

543
00:26:19,615 --> 00:26:22,150
Bills: What was
your first thought

544
00:26:22,151 --> 00:26:23,985
When I first came out?

545
00:26:24,186 --> 00:26:27,055
My first reaction
was probably...

546
00:26:27,056 --> 00:26:28,724
I was probably shocked.

547
00:26:28,725 --> 00:26:29,992
Why?

548
00:26:30,059 --> 00:26:31,426
Just because -

549
00:26:31,427 --> 00:26:33,662
You think I was
putting on a front?

550
00:26:33,663 --> 00:26:37,599
No. I just didn't really
think you'd come out.

551
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:39,067
Laura?

552
00:26:39,135 --> 00:26:40,268
Yes?

553
00:26:40,336 --> 00:26:41,770
Your turn.

554
00:26:41,837 --> 00:26:43,439
You have to ask me a question.

555
00:26:43,540 --> 00:26:45,641
How did you feel when
richie first came out?

556
00:26:45,642 --> 00:26:47,309
I was happy for him and stuff.

557
00:26:47,310 --> 00:26:49,044
You know, I was happy
for you, too,

558
00:26:49,045 --> 00:26:50,479
'cause you finally came out.

559
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,948
Like, 'cause, you know,
if you're gay,

560
00:26:52,949 --> 00:26:56,018
You've always been gay,
but you finally came out,

561
00:26:56,019 --> 00:26:58,754
So I don't know,
I was just happy for you.

562
00:27:00,755 --> 00:27:03,224
I could never

563
00:27:03,225 --> 00:27:04,892
Deny who I am.

564
00:27:04,993 --> 00:27:06,662
I couldn't deny it.

565
00:27:07,263 --> 00:27:08,997
I was trying to find
ways around it,

566
00:27:08,998 --> 00:27:10,865
But people kept
directing the question,

567
00:27:10,866 --> 00:27:12,968
"are you gay?" to my face.

568
00:27:12,969 --> 00:27:15,837
I didn't know what to say,
but I couldn't deny who I was,

569
00:27:15,838 --> 00:27:17,606
So I ended up having -

570
00:27:17,607 --> 00:27:22,010
I ended up saying that,
"you know what, yeah.

571
00:27:22,011 --> 00:27:26,114
So what is it to you? Big deal."

572
00:27:26,115 --> 00:27:30,552
And I guess it was
a big deal to everybody.

573
00:27:30,553 --> 00:27:33,521
I know that everybody cared
because at that day,

574
00:27:33,522 --> 00:27:35,290
Everybody began to hate me.

575
00:27:35,291 --> 00:27:38,627
I was no longer anybody
that anyone liked.

576
00:27:38,628 --> 00:27:41,271
Everybody hated C.J. Bills.

577
00:27:47,036 --> 00:27:49,671
Henderson: It's actually
rather phenomenal,

578
00:27:49,672 --> 00:27:52,440
And sometimes a little scary,
that so much has happened

579
00:27:52,441 --> 00:27:55,010
In such a short amount of time.

580
00:27:55,011 --> 00:27:57,245
Wilson: Roxanne and Linda
had decided

581
00:27:57,246 --> 00:27:58,913
To buy and renovate the Latonia,

582
00:27:58,914 --> 00:28:00,148
A historic theater

583
00:28:00,149 --> 00:28:01,583
That had seen better days.

584
00:28:01,584 --> 00:28:02,784
They wanted to help

585
00:28:02,785 --> 00:28:05,520
Revitalize downtown oil city
by creating

586
00:28:05,521 --> 00:28:07,522
A space for special events.

587
00:28:07,523 --> 00:28:08,823
Hitchcock:
I came in for a massage

588
00:28:08,824 --> 00:28:11,226
One day, and my massage
therapist said,

589
00:28:11,227 --> 00:28:13,495
"you know, the original
chandelier is here -

590
00:28:13,496 --> 00:28:14,963
You gotta go see it."

591
00:28:14,964 --> 00:28:18,233
She loaned me this tiny, little
itty-bitty flashlight,

592
00:28:18,234 --> 00:28:19,902
And I snuck up,
and the door was unlocked,

593
00:28:19,903 --> 00:28:22,471
The room was dark,
and I came in,

594
00:28:23,372 --> 00:28:25,908
And my little heart
just went pitter-patter.

595
00:28:26,209 --> 00:28:30,512
I could not believe something
like that was here in oil city.

596
00:28:31,113 --> 00:28:35,817
It just seemed almost criminal
to me that it was,

597
00:28:35,918 --> 00:28:37,919
You know, just, just sitting.

598
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:39,254
Hitchcock: The building
wasn't even really

599
00:28:39,255 --> 00:28:40,588
On the market -
we just called up the guy,

600
00:28:40,589 --> 00:28:42,123
Said, "how much do you
want for it?"

601
00:28:42,124 --> 00:28:44,325
He told us, and we said, "Okay."

602
00:28:44,326 --> 00:28:45,560
Let's sign papers,

603
00:28:45,561 --> 00:28:47,395
And we just kind of went
from there.

604
00:28:47,396 --> 00:28:50,297
Henderson: Once it's ready,
there's got to be a grand opening.

605
00:28:50,366 --> 00:28:51,868
Hitchcock: Yeah, 'cause I
don't think that chandelier

606
00:28:51,969 --> 00:28:57,237
Has been lit up in probably 50 years.
Wilson: Wow.

607
00:29:00,761 --> 00:29:02,761
'92. Burgin and Corsica.

608
00:29:03,985 --> 00:29:05,585
Did you look at a lot of cars,

609
00:29:05,609 --> 00:29:07,109
Or is this, you know,
just kind of came up?

610
00:29:07,133 --> 00:29:09,133
Yeah, like I got a couple
grand to throw around

611
00:29:09,157 --> 00:29:10,957
On a nice, fancy-schmancy car.

612
00:29:10,981 --> 00:29:13,381
$150. That was it.

613
00:29:13,905 --> 00:29:15,905
It wasn't even into the 200s.

614
00:29:16,829 --> 00:29:20,029
Still have to get a new
exhaust, battery, tires,

615
00:29:20,053 --> 00:29:22,853
The title transferred,
my license,

616
00:29:23,877 --> 00:29:25,877
And then I'll be on the road.

617
00:29:29,001 --> 00:29:30,601
I don't think I'll
probably ever be able

618
00:29:30,625 --> 00:29:32,145
To, like, walk down
through the streets

619
00:29:32,321 --> 00:29:33,497
Of anywhere around here.

620
00:29:34,010 --> 00:29:36,010
I used to have, like,
a reputation and stuff

621
00:29:36,234 --> 00:29:38,034
As a bad-ass and all this stuff,

622
00:29:38,058 --> 00:29:40,058
But right now, my life consists

623
00:29:40,582 --> 00:29:43,097
Of being around my animals
and my garage

624
00:29:43,121 --> 00:29:44,321
With my mommy.

625
00:29:44,545 --> 00:29:45,697
What are you thinking about?

626
00:29:45,698 --> 00:29:46,897
What am I thinking about?

627
00:29:46,921 --> 00:29:48,921
When you're sitting
here in your car.

628
00:29:48,950 --> 00:29:50,550
Nothing, really.

629
00:29:51,874 --> 00:29:53,874
Eventually,
once in a while, wondering

630
00:29:53,898 --> 00:29:56,398
If this thing will actually
ever leave this garage.

631
00:30:25,598 --> 00:30:27,533
Wilson: After C.J. told me
that he was sticking

632
00:30:27,634 --> 00:30:29,135
close to home to avoid
being hassled,

633
00:30:29,636 --> 00:30:31,237
I didn't see him for a while.

634
00:30:31,538 --> 00:30:32,838
His high school's homecoming

635
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:34,907
Was his first time
out of the house in months.

636
00:30:35,408 --> 00:30:37,943
Here comes C.J. Over there.

637
00:30:37,944 --> 00:30:40,412
He's walking by - let's go.

638
00:30:40,913 --> 00:30:43,048
What's up, guys?

639
00:30:43,049 --> 00:30:44,849
Hey, what's up, dude?
How you doing?

640
00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:47,052
What's going on?
So how you been?

641
00:30:47,053 --> 00:30:48,120
Pretty peachy.

642
00:30:48,121 --> 00:30:49,288
Yeah?

643
00:30:49,355 --> 00:30:50,555
Place good?

644
00:30:50,556 --> 00:30:51,556
I like your earrings.

645
00:30:51,557 --> 00:30:52,557
Thank you.

646
00:30:52,558 --> 00:30:54,393
Gotta make sure I look cute

647
00:30:54,394 --> 00:30:56,069
When I go out in public.

648
00:30:58,198 --> 00:30:59,264
Where'd the guys go?

649
00:30:59,265 --> 00:31:01,100
They didn't want
to be on camera, huh?

650
00:31:01,101 --> 00:31:05,137
I don't know.
They drifted somewhere.

651
00:31:05,138 --> 00:31:07,539
Wilson: It was great

652
00:31:07,540 --> 00:31:09,208
To see C.J. Out of the house.

653
00:31:09,209 --> 00:31:12,845
But I didn't want to make him
nervous around his friends.

654
00:31:12,846 --> 00:31:16,523
I told him I'd catch up
with him later.

655
00:31:22,288 --> 00:31:23,989
Bills: When I was leaving
the game,

656
00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:26,191
There was a whole group
of skater kids outside,

657
00:31:26,192 --> 00:31:27,492
Like, "are you still gay?"

658
00:31:27,493 --> 00:31:29,695
I went, "I ain't a faggot.
What you talking about?"

659
00:31:29,696 --> 00:31:31,029
And they were like, "Oh, okay."

660
00:31:31,030 --> 00:31:33,598
And they just watched me
walk away and stuff,

661
00:31:33,599 --> 00:31:36,702
And I was like, oh, god - damn.

662
00:31:36,703 --> 00:31:38,437
Wilson: You know, once you
kind of come out,

663
00:31:38,438 --> 00:31:40,138
I mean, it's hard to, like -

664
00:31:40,139 --> 00:31:41,206
Go back in?

665
00:31:41,207 --> 00:31:42,207
Yeah.

666
00:31:42,242 --> 00:31:43,342
Noticed.

667
00:31:43,409 --> 00:31:44,877
Yeah.

668
00:31:45,144 --> 00:31:48,146
I actually had people talk to me

669
00:31:48,147 --> 00:31:49,314
On Friday.

670
00:31:49,382 --> 00:31:50,649
I never - that hasn't happened

671
00:31:50,650 --> 00:31:51,917
Since last year.

672
00:31:51,918 --> 00:31:53,852
Wilson: Yeah, we noticed
a lot of people

673
00:31:53,853 --> 00:31:56,088
Came up and kind of greeted you,
gave you a hug.

674
00:31:56,089 --> 00:31:57,289
Mm-hmm.

675
00:31:57,357 --> 00:31:59,057
And that's because they think

676
00:31:59,058 --> 00:32:01,426
You're not what
they thought you were?

677
00:32:01,427 --> 00:32:02,728
Mm-mm, cover it up.

678
00:32:02,729 --> 00:32:05,931
At least until I get
away from here.

679
00:32:05,932 --> 00:32:10,469
Springer: You shouldn't have to
live in denial, you know?

680
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,003
But I know there's been times

681
00:32:12,004 --> 00:32:13,772
Where he wished
he would have just

682
00:32:13,773 --> 00:32:16,141
Kept his mouth shut,
and nobody would know, and -

683
00:32:16,142 --> 00:32:18,076
Bills: Oh, every time
I go into public,

684
00:32:18,077 --> 00:32:20,445
I wish I wouldn't ever
opened my mouth.

685
00:32:20,446 --> 00:32:23,982
Every single day.

686
00:32:23,983 --> 00:32:25,183
It's hell.

687
00:32:25,251 --> 00:32:27,452
It's not like D.C. Or New York,

688
00:32:27,653 --> 00:32:29,387
Where everybody's liberal.

689
00:32:29,388 --> 00:32:31,823
I get threatened to get killed.

690
00:32:31,824 --> 00:32:33,900
That ain't fun.

691
00:32:38,831 --> 00:32:40,166
Hi.

692
00:32:41,233 --> 00:32:43,535
Wilson: I'm here tonight
to say that I'm deeply concerned

693
00:32:43,536 --> 00:32:45,870
At the charges of harassment,
violence, and discrimination

694
00:32:45,871 --> 00:32:48,306
That have roiled the Franklin
school district

695
00:32:48,307 --> 00:32:49,841
For the past year and a half.

696
00:32:49,842 --> 00:32:52,077
Gay students and students
of color at the high school

697
00:32:52,078 --> 00:32:54,179
Have been the primary targets
of these activities.

698
00:32:54,180 --> 00:32:56,081
Their ability to speak for themselves

699
00:32:56,082 --> 00:32:57,749
Is greatly hampered by fears

700
00:32:57,750 --> 00:33:00,252
Of backlash
if they do so publicly.

701
00:33:00,253 --> 00:33:01,420
Death threats have been issued

702
00:33:01,421 --> 00:33:03,021
Against students
in this school district

703
00:33:03,022 --> 00:33:05,190
And it just pains me

704
00:33:05,191 --> 00:33:06,892
Thato action
has actually been taken.

705
00:33:06,893 --> 00:33:08,794
So thank you for accepting
these comments

706
00:33:08,795 --> 00:33:10,329
In the public record -
I appreciate it,

707
00:33:10,330 --> 00:33:11,730
And I look forward
to your response.

708
00:33:11,731 --> 00:33:13,832
Woman: Thank you.

709
00:33:13,833 --> 00:33:16,368
Any other visitors at this time?

710
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:18,904
Wilson: It was obvious
that the school board

711
00:33:18,905 --> 00:33:21,607
Wasn't concerned about C.J.
Or any gay student.

712
00:33:21,608 --> 00:33:24,943
But the problem wasn't
just with the school.

713
00:33:24,944 --> 00:33:27,913
Man: It can happen to your town.

714
00:33:27,914 --> 00:33:29,348
Afa presents a look at how

715
00:33:29,349 --> 00:33:31,783
A handful of homosexual
activists changed the very

716
00:33:31,784 --> 00:33:32,885
Moral fiber of the city.

717
00:33:32,886 --> 00:33:33,953
They are taking over...

718
00:33:33,954 --> 00:33:35,187
Wilson: This video
is being promoted

719
00:33:35,188 --> 00:33:36,388
By a local christian
radio station

720
00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:38,123
To counter increasingly visible

721
00:33:38,124 --> 00:33:39,458
Gay people in oil city.

722
00:33:39,459 --> 00:33:40,626
As christian people.

723
00:33:40,627 --> 00:33:42,294
Announcer: Learn
the strategies used

724
00:33:42,295 --> 00:33:43,896
By gay activists
and don't let this

725
00:33:43,897 --> 00:33:44,930
Happen to your city.

726
00:33:44,931 --> 00:33:46,265
Man: If it's not happened

727
00:33:46,266 --> 00:33:47,333
In your town, get ready,

728
00:33:47,334 --> 00:33:48,600
'cause it is going to happen.

729
00:33:48,601 --> 00:33:50,269
Announcer: Purchase your copy

730
00:33:50,270 --> 00:33:52,738
Or a five-pack
to share with others today,

731
00:33:52,739 --> 00:33:53,973
And spread the news.

732
00:33:53,974 --> 00:33:56,850
They're coming to your town.

733
00:34:04,116 --> 00:34:05,284
Is that too long?

734
00:34:05,485 --> 00:34:06,918
Henderson: No,
that's probably okay.

735
00:34:06,919 --> 00:34:09,354
That's my chainsaw, by the way.

736
00:34:09,355 --> 00:34:10,388
Mine disappeared.

737
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:11,890
I don't know where mine went.

738
00:34:11,891 --> 00:34:13,459
Wilson: You each have
your own chainsaw?

739
00:34:13,460 --> 00:34:14,627
I used to.

740
00:34:14,694 --> 00:34:15,895
Whose is bigger?

741
00:34:15,896 --> 00:34:17,930
Hers would be bigger.

742
00:34:17,931 --> 00:34:20,766
I bet I've cut more wood
than she has, though.

743
00:34:21,867 --> 00:34:24,168
Linda and Roxanne were trying
to go about their businness.

744
00:34:24,292 --> 00:34:27,566
But when they saw the AFA video
accusing people like them

745
00:34:27,590 --> 00:34:29,490
of trying to take over the town,

746
00:34:29,614 --> 00:34:31,614
Linda came up with a poetic response.

747
00:34:31,712 --> 00:34:32,946
Henderson: Why do you suppose

748
00:34:32,947 --> 00:34:34,648
There are empty storefronts?

749
00:34:34,649 --> 00:34:36,783
They're choking our town.

750
00:34:36,784 --> 00:34:39,920
Why do you suppose
there's a brain drain?

751
00:34:40,321 --> 00:34:42,556
They're choking our town.

752
00:34:42,757 --> 00:34:46,893
Why do you suppose
there is no unique art?

753
00:34:46,894 --> 00:34:49,597
They're choking our town.

754
00:34:50,098 --> 00:34:51,765
It's time for a change.

755
00:34:51,766 --> 00:34:55,611
Stop choking our town.

756
00:34:58,372 --> 00:34:59,506
You like that?

757
00:34:59,507 --> 00:35:00,941
Mm-hmm.

758
00:35:01,208 --> 00:35:03,109
Woman: Hi, guys!

759
00:35:03,110 --> 00:35:04,278
Come on in!

760
00:35:04,379 --> 00:35:06,379
Wilson: Another case
of anti-gay discrimination

761
00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:09,249
Had taken place several years
earlier in Titusville,

762
00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:11,619
A town just up the road
from oil city.

763
00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:14,188
It involved a student
named Tim Dahle.

764
00:35:14,189 --> 00:35:16,056
I thought he and his family
might be able

765
00:35:16,057 --> 00:35:17,691
To help kathy and C.J.
Figure out

766
00:35:17,692 --> 00:35:20,327
How to get their school district
to take them more seriously.

767
00:35:20,328 --> 00:35:21,562
Bills: The whole thing started

768
00:35:21,563 --> 00:35:23,263
From me standing up for one kid.

769
00:35:23,864 --> 00:35:25,031
And no one ever,

770
00:35:25,032 --> 00:35:27,133
Ever once said
a word to anybody.

771
00:35:27,134 --> 00:35:28,768
They just stood there,
my best friends,

772
00:35:28,769 --> 00:35:29,936
People that I've known

773
00:35:29,937 --> 00:35:31,671
Since I was this big.

774
00:35:31,672 --> 00:35:33,440
They just rolled their eyes.

775
00:35:33,441 --> 00:35:34,574
Man: You call them your friends,

776
00:35:34,575 --> 00:35:35,608
You trust them, and then

777
00:35:35,609 --> 00:35:36,876
All of a sudden,
they turn on you.

778
00:35:36,877 --> 00:35:38,812
I've been there.

779
00:35:38,813 --> 00:35:41,348
What really irritates me
is the fact

780
00:35:41,349 --> 00:35:43,717
That I used to go out of my way

781
00:35:43,718 --> 00:35:48,288
To actually cause bodily harm
to gay people.

782
00:35:48,289 --> 00:35:52,058
Okay, we used to use it
like a sport, you know?

783
00:35:52,059 --> 00:35:53,893
I mean, it was stupid.

784
00:35:53,894 --> 00:35:55,528
And then when you
came out of the closet

785
00:35:55,529 --> 00:35:57,664
And told me that you were gay,
I thought,

786
00:35:57,665 --> 00:35:59,366
"Oh, no, no, no. You can't be."

787
00:35:59,367 --> 00:36:00,867
And I got to thinking,

788
00:36:00,868 --> 00:36:02,902
That gay kid's yours.

789
00:36:02,903 --> 00:36:04,671
You going to disown him

790
00:36:04,672 --> 00:36:07,407
Because of his
sexual orientation?

791
00:36:07,408 --> 00:36:10,143
Or are you going to love him
for who he is inside?

792
00:36:10,144 --> 00:36:11,644
And I thought,
"the hell with it.

793
00:36:11,645 --> 00:36:13,513
I'm going to love him
for who he is inside."

794
00:36:13,514 --> 00:36:17,183
All right, and I tell you what,
you try to shed 40 years

795
00:36:17,184 --> 00:36:19,753
Of hatred overnight.

796
00:36:19,754 --> 00:36:21,054
It's just not done.

797
00:36:21,055 --> 00:36:24,190
It's something you
got to learn how to live with,

798
00:36:24,191 --> 00:36:26,693
Deal with, and you
got to be sincere.

799
00:36:26,694 --> 00:36:27,861
I mean, he's my kid.

800
00:36:27,862 --> 00:36:30,030
I'm not going to turn my back
on him.

801
00:36:30,031 --> 00:36:33,633
I won't - I won't never
turn my back on him.

802
00:36:33,634 --> 00:36:36,169
I - I gotta eat. See you guys.

803
00:36:36,170 --> 00:36:38,038
Wilson: All right. Thanks, Ron.

804
00:36:38,339 --> 00:36:41,040
Woman: I can't believe
you got him on camera.

805
00:36:41,041 --> 00:36:42,275
Shock of all shocks!

806
00:36:42,276 --> 00:36:45,012
I never thought
that would happen.

807
00:36:45,313 --> 00:36:46,613
Wilson: It seemed like kathy

808
00:36:46,614 --> 00:36:48,081
Really perked up
when diane told her

809
00:36:48,082 --> 00:36:50,417
That their lawsuit had forced
the school district

810
00:36:50,418 --> 00:36:51,885
To implement diversity training

811
00:36:51,886 --> 00:36:53,587
That included
sexual orientation.

812
00:36:53,588 --> 00:36:55,022
Diane: We were the first people

813
00:36:55,023 --> 00:36:56,256
In all these years

814
00:36:56,257 --> 00:36:58,525
To stand up
to our school system.

815
00:36:58,526 --> 00:37:01,128
And it was because what they
were doing was wrong.

816
00:37:01,129 --> 00:37:02,195
Yeah.

817
00:37:02,263 --> 00:37:03,697
Springer: It breaks my heart.

818
00:37:03,698 --> 00:37:06,233
I mean, I could just cry.

819
00:37:06,234 --> 00:37:08,735
And that there are
other kids out there

820
00:37:08,736 --> 00:37:11,004
Going through
similar situations -

821
00:37:11,005 --> 00:37:12,906
None of this should ever happen.

822
00:37:12,907 --> 00:37:15,709
I don't know that I'll
change the world,

823
00:37:15,710 --> 00:37:19,112
But if I can even just
educate a few people, like,

824
00:37:19,113 --> 00:37:25,091
Look, they weren't put on this
earth to be tortured like this.

825
00:37:27,955 --> 00:37:30,090
We're getting ready
for the grand opening.

826
00:37:30,091 --> 00:37:31,558
And all of a sudden,

827
00:37:31,559 --> 00:37:35,195
Diane Gramley sent out a letter

828
00:37:35,196 --> 00:37:39,533
Warning everyone about
how dangerous we are and -

829
00:37:39,534 --> 00:37:41,668
We have this homosexual agenda.

830
00:37:41,669 --> 00:37:44,237
And her brother
goes to work with a guy

831
00:37:44,238 --> 00:37:46,840
Whose minister stood
right in the pulpit

832
00:37:46,841 --> 00:37:49,042
And said to boycott the Latonia.

833
00:37:49,243 --> 00:37:51,177
What?

834
00:37:51,245 --> 00:37:52,512
Where is that coming from?

835
00:37:52,513 --> 00:37:53,613
Diane Gramley.

836
00:37:53,614 --> 00:37:54,881
She's started an all-in, all-out

837
00:37:54,882 --> 00:37:56,950
Campaign against us.

838
00:37:56,951 --> 00:37:58,451
And she's saying to people,

839
00:37:58,452 --> 00:38:00,020
"don't do business
with the Latonia"?

840
00:38:00,021 --> 00:38:01,021
Yes. Yes.

841
00:38:01,088 --> 00:38:02,689
Because it's run
by a lesbian couple.

842
00:38:02,690 --> 00:38:05,625
Yes - we just wanted
to have a business.

843
00:38:05,626 --> 00:38:08,528
If all the city wants
is churches,

844
00:38:08,529 --> 00:38:09,996
Then what do they need

845
00:38:09,997 --> 00:38:13,706
An art deco theater for?

846
00:38:15,930 --> 00:38:19,630
There's something that's going on in our
Senate, in House of Representatives,

847
00:38:19,654 --> 00:38:22,554
pretty much as we speak right now,
it's a hay consville

848
00:38:23,678 --> 00:38:24,978
it's pretty much saying that...

849
00:38:25,902 --> 00:38:29,602
if I, as a pastor, would share
from the pulpit the word of God,

850
00:38:29,803 --> 00:38:33,504
about homosexuality, someone in
my congregation took that,

851
00:38:33,528 --> 00:38:38,128
did something against any individual
who is a homosexual,

852
00:38:38,152 --> 00:38:40,752
I can be prosecuted as well,

853
00:38:40,776 --> 00:38:43,376
for shating the word of God
from the pulpit.

854
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,400
This is information that Diane Gramley
forwarded in an email as loud as well.

855
00:38:49,724 --> 00:38:53,124
Father God, you allmighty God,
you created this world.

856
00:38:53,648 --> 00:38:56,048
We thank you for your love
that shows no discrimination

857
00:38:56,172 --> 00:38:57,772
and against anybody.

858
00:38:57,896 --> 00:38:59,896
And more you know these debates
that are going on,

859
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:03,920
in House and in the Senate, you can
supernaturally reach down there

860
00:39:04,044 --> 00:39:07,044
and stop those many women from
voting yes on this bild today.

861
00:39:07,668 --> 00:39:09,668
And so Father God we just pray
that this bill

862
00:39:10,192 --> 00:39:12,192
will be defeated somewhere,
somehow Lord,

863
00:39:13,416 --> 00:39:15,416
and we pray this in Jesus, amen.

864
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,140
We as Cristians, we don't hate
the homosexuals.

865
00:39:20,564 --> 00:39:22,402
I could have been a homosexual.

866
00:39:22,403 --> 00:39:23,802
I'm single.

867
00:39:23,926 --> 00:39:25,426
I've had feelings.

868
00:39:26,450 --> 00:39:28,450
You had feelings of attraction
to women?

869
00:39:28,498 --> 00:39:31,198
I had feelins, yes,
but I knew they were wrong.

870
00:39:31,722 --> 00:39:34,022
Before I ever even read it in the Bible.

871
00:39:34,246 --> 00:39:36,246
You know, the scriptures say...

872
00:39:36,370 --> 00:39:38,770
we've got to have some rules to live by...

873
00:39:40,094 --> 00:39:42,394
As the AFA and their followers
were trying to use

874
00:39:42,718 --> 00:39:46,218
scripture rules and prayer to limit
legal protection for gay people

875
00:39:46,606 --> 00:39:47,840
The state of Pennsylvania

876
00:39:47,841 --> 00:39:50,543
Was considering expanding
its anti-discrimination law

877
00:39:50,544 --> 00:39:52,879
To include sexual orientation.

878
00:39:54,380 --> 00:39:56,081
Kathy was invited
to tell her story

879
00:39:56,082 --> 00:39:59,150
About discrimination at C.J.'s
school at a public hearing.

880
00:39:59,351 --> 00:40:01,352
I'm not a public speaker.

881
00:40:01,353 --> 00:40:04,455
But - and I don't know
what I'd say.

882
00:40:04,456 --> 00:40:08,493
I just, I need to hear
how it's going and -

883
00:40:08,694 --> 00:40:10,628
Wilson: I've printed out
a copy of the law,

884
00:40:10,629 --> 00:40:12,163
So we can look at it.
Okay, good, good.

885
00:40:12,164 --> 00:40:13,697
Yeah, that would be good.

886
00:40:13,698 --> 00:40:15,466
Where you see the underline,

887
00:40:15,467 --> 00:40:17,735
It's trying to add
"sexual orientation,

888
00:40:17,736 --> 00:40:19,871
Gender identity, or expression."

889
00:40:20,072 --> 00:40:21,839
You know, I don't understand

890
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,110
Where they even get off
not including

891
00:40:26,111 --> 00:40:27,879
Gay and lesbian.

892
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,514
You know, let's get, you know,

893
00:40:29,515 --> 00:40:32,091
Our heads out of our asses here.

894
00:40:34,554 --> 00:40:36,788
Gramley: On June 13th, the
homosexual special rights

895
00:40:36,889 --> 00:40:39,023
Bill was introduced
in Harrisburg.

896
00:40:39,124 --> 00:40:41,459
This is Diane Gramley with
the American Family Assocition

897
00:40:41,460 --> 00:40:43,294
Of Pennsylvania,
with a call to action.

898
00:40:43,295 --> 00:40:45,163
Advocates for the passage
of these bills

899
00:40:45,164 --> 00:40:46,998
Deny they are
special rights bills,

900
00:40:46,999 --> 00:40:49,567
But in what other situation
is a law specifically written

901
00:40:49,568 --> 00:40:51,269
To include a group of people

902
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:53,938
Simply because of the sexual
activity in which they engage?

903
00:40:53,939 --> 00:40:56,675
They have never been required
to sit in the back of the bus

904
00:40:56,676 --> 00:40:59,044
Or drink from designated
water fountains.

905
00:40:59,045 --> 00:41:01,513
They've never been considered
less than human,

906
00:41:01,514 --> 00:41:03,148
As african americans once were.

907
00:41:03,149 --> 00:41:04,549
Homosexual activists are trying

908
00:41:04,550 --> 00:41:06,217
To hijack
the civil rights movement

909
00:41:06,218 --> 00:41:07,419
By pulling the victim card

910
00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:09,120
And trying to seek
the normalization

911
00:41:09,121 --> 00:41:10,655
Of their destructive lifestyle.

912
00:41:12,156 --> 00:41:15,924
Wilson: People like Diane
Are using misinformation

913
00:41:15,961 --> 00:41:18,462
To stir up irrational fears,
to kind of

914
00:41:18,463 --> 00:41:20,464
Push people
back into the closet.

915
00:41:20,465 --> 00:41:21,699
It's not going to happen.

916
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:23,034
But when they stir up that fear,

917
00:41:23,035 --> 00:41:24,202
That's what creates
the problems.

918
00:41:24,203 --> 00:41:25,670
That's what puts
people like C.J. At risk.

919
00:41:25,671 --> 00:41:26,704
At risk. Okay.

920
00:41:26,705 --> 00:41:27,805
Because those messages

921
00:41:27,806 --> 00:41:29,374
Go out there and says,
"oh, those a are

922
00:41:29,375 --> 00:41:30,875
The people
we're supposed to hate."

923
00:41:30,876 --> 00:41:32,310
You know, can you imagine,
I mean,

924
00:41:32,311 --> 00:41:35,179
Just seeing somebody
at a party and saying,

925
00:41:35,180 --> 00:41:36,714
"oh, that's the faggot.

926
00:41:36,715 --> 00:41:39,484
"let's go, you know,
punch him, literally

927
00:41:39,485 --> 00:41:40,552
Knock him out -"

928
00:41:40,553 --> 00:41:42,186
Can I imagine that? Oh, yeah.

929
00:41:42,187 --> 00:41:44,255
I- I can imagine that.

930
00:41:44,256 --> 00:41:49,060
I mean, I was that type
of a person at one time.

931
00:41:49,061 --> 00:41:52,497
Now, that may be shocking
to you.

932
00:41:52,498 --> 00:41:56,034
But in my journey in life,
I'm no longer like that,

933
00:41:56,035 --> 00:41:57,635
And a big part of that

934
00:41:57,636 --> 00:42:00,271
Is my christianity,
my faith in Christ.

935
00:42:00,272 --> 00:42:02,874
You know, I truly believe
that Jesus Christ

936
00:42:02,875 --> 00:42:07,045
Has changed my character,
so that I don't do that,

937
00:42:07,046 --> 00:42:08,647
Nor do I want
to do those things anymore.

938
00:42:08,848 --> 00:42:10,648
I mean, those are wrong.
It's wrong to do that.

939
00:42:10,649 --> 00:42:11,983
It's wrong to violate...

940
00:42:11,984 --> 00:42:14,285
You know, anybody.

941
00:42:14,286 --> 00:42:16,454
I became a different person.

942
00:42:16,455 --> 00:42:18,790
Do you think there will come
a time, though, when we

943
00:42:18,791 --> 00:42:21,693
Don't disagree about

944
00:42:21,694 --> 00:42:23,261
The place that gay, lesbian,

945
00:42:23,262 --> 00:42:25,797
Bisexual, and trans people
have in the world?

946
00:42:26,198 --> 00:42:30,034
Maybe aspects of it.
I don't know.

947
00:42:30,035 --> 00:42:31,335
I don't know.

948
00:42:31,336 --> 00:42:33,004
You know...

949
00:42:33,005 --> 00:42:36,240
I'd have to...

950
00:42:36,541 --> 00:42:38,642
That would be a big -
that would be

951
00:42:38,643 --> 00:42:40,478
A big change for me, you know?

952
00:42:41,379 --> 00:42:44,514
Wilson: My interactions with pastor
Micklos were odd.

953
00:42:45,317 --> 00:42:46,817
Ever since
the wedding announcement,

954
00:42:46,818 --> 00:42:49,686
I felt like I had been battling
Against people who use religion

955
00:42:50,155 --> 00:42:52,924
To deny gay people basic rights
of visibility.

956
00:42:53,125 --> 00:42:56,527
Pastor micklos was open
to looking at things

957
00:42:56,528 --> 00:42:57,862
In a different way.

958
00:42:57,963 --> 00:42:59,697
I'd never thought
I'd become friends

959
00:42:59,698 --> 00:43:01,799
With someone who didn't
view me as his equal.

960
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,703
But his willingness to examine
his own beliefs

961
00:43:05,704 --> 00:43:08,105
Was helping me to see
that not all religious people

962
00:43:08,106 --> 00:43:10,174
Fell into the box
that I often put them in.

963
00:43:10,375 --> 00:43:12,176
Good afternoon, joe,
how are you doing?

964
00:43:12,177 --> 00:43:13,677
Wilson: Hi, diane, how are you?

965
00:43:13,678 --> 00:43:16,080
I wanted to introduce you
to kathy springer and C.J.

966
00:43:16,081 --> 00:43:17,748
Oh, okay, good,
nice to meet you.

967
00:43:17,749 --> 00:43:19,450
Thank you, it's nice
to meet you.

968
00:43:19,451 --> 00:43:23,087
Wilson: C.J. Is the young boy
who was in franklin high school

969
00:43:23,088 --> 00:43:26,190
And was experiencing harassment
and discrimination.

970
00:43:26,191 --> 00:43:27,725
Okay, the one that was
on your video?

971
00:43:27,726 --> 00:43:29,326
Wilson: Yeah.
What do you think of that?

972
00:43:29,327 --> 00:43:32,803
Well, I need to get in here
to the meeting, excuse me.

973
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:35,833
Woman: Diane Gramley

974
00:43:35,834 --> 00:43:38,536
From the american family
association

975
00:43:38,537 --> 00:43:40,638
Of pennsylvania.

976
00:43:40,639 --> 00:43:41,773
Gramley: Civil rights
protections

977
00:43:41,774 --> 00:43:42,774
Have long been fought for

978
00:43:42,775 --> 00:43:44,809
By disenfranchised groups
of people.

979
00:43:44,810 --> 00:43:48,947
African americans led the fight
for civil rights,

980
00:43:48,948 --> 00:43:50,915
Seeking the right to vote
and to no longer

981
00:43:50,916 --> 00:43:53,151
Be required to sit
at the back of the bus.

982
00:43:53,152 --> 00:43:55,253
But a person's skin color
or national origin

983
00:43:55,254 --> 00:43:56,554
Is unchangeable.

984
00:43:56,755 --> 00:44:01,358
Wilson: Again, gramley was trying
to use race As a wedge to divide.

985
00:44:02,027 --> 00:44:04,062
But this time, she was dealing
with legislators

986
00:44:04,063 --> 00:44:05,897
Who were experienced
in civil rights law.

987
00:44:05,898 --> 00:44:08,967
I was hoping they'd be more open
to kathy's testimony.

988
00:44:08,968 --> 00:44:10,502
Springer: I'm sorry,
I'm already nervous.

989
00:44:10,503 --> 00:44:12,837
I'm not a public speaker.

990
00:44:12,838 --> 00:44:15,240
At this time I'd like
to tell you

991
00:44:15,241 --> 00:44:16,941
About my son, C.J. Bills.

992
00:44:16,942 --> 00:44:19,010
At the time, he was 15 years old

993
00:44:19,011 --> 00:44:21,613
And attended a public school
in venango county.

994
00:44:21,614 --> 00:44:25,016
There was an incident
on a school bus one day.

995
00:44:25,017 --> 00:44:26,851
He was on a field trip.

996
00:44:26,852 --> 00:44:28,453
There were teachers monitoring

997
00:44:28,454 --> 00:44:30,255
This whole trip.

998
00:44:30,256 --> 00:44:31,689
Kids were throwing things

999
00:44:31,690 --> 00:44:33,725
At him, calling him "faggot,"

1000
00:44:33,726 --> 00:44:36,394
"queer," "gay,"
asking if he wanted

1001
00:44:36,395 --> 00:44:38,663
To perform sex acts on them.

1002
00:44:38,664 --> 00:44:41,065
The teachers
just turned their head

1003
00:44:41,066 --> 00:44:42,901
And acted
like it never happened.

1004
00:44:42,902 --> 00:44:44,936
We've had our house

1005
00:44:44,937 --> 00:44:47,238
Threatened to be burned down.

1006
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,074
We've gotten phone calls
by these boys, saying,

1007
00:44:50,075 --> 00:44:52,277
"We want to see
what color a faggot bleeds."

1008
00:44:52,278 --> 00:44:55,880
He was vulnerable,
he was scared,

1009
00:44:55,881 --> 00:44:57,482
He didn't want to go to school.

1010
00:44:57,483 --> 00:45:00,285
His grades were dropping.

1011
00:45:00,286 --> 00:45:03,988
He was suicidal.

1012
00:45:03,989 --> 00:45:07,725
I, um, I just have
one more thing

1013
00:45:07,726 --> 00:45:11,329
To say - I hope it never
comes to your family,

1014
00:45:11,330 --> 00:45:13,665
Where one of your children
are tortured

1015
00:45:13,666 --> 00:45:15,033
For being who they are.

1016
00:45:15,034 --> 00:45:18,236
Thank you.

1017
00:45:20,272 --> 00:45:23,274
Sometimes black people
have a problem

1018
00:45:23,275 --> 00:45:25,577
With people who are different

1019
00:45:25,578 --> 00:45:29,714
Comparing their experiences

1020
00:45:29,715 --> 00:45:32,217
With the black experience.

1021
00:45:32,218 --> 00:45:34,319
Because of your experience,

1022
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,621
You're going to be able
to help other young people

1023
00:45:36,622 --> 00:45:40,391
So that maybe tomorrow
this doesn't happen.

1024
00:45:40,392 --> 00:45:41,526
God bless you for it.

1025
00:45:41,527 --> 00:45:44,362
Be who you are, no matter what.

1026
00:45:44,363 --> 00:45:45,463
Thank you very much.

1027
00:45:45,464 --> 00:45:47,942
Springer: Thank you.

1028
00:45:52,771 --> 00:45:54,506
Wilson: Diane and group,
we actually wanted

1029
00:45:54,507 --> 00:45:55,974
To ask you how you respond

1030
00:45:55,975 --> 00:45:58,676
To the very personal testimonies
of C.J. And kathy.

1031
00:45:58,677 --> 00:46:00,845
Like I said at the beginning
of my testimony,

1032
00:46:00,846 --> 00:46:02,514
I thought it was
awful information.

1033
00:46:02,515 --> 00:46:04,949
And the franklin school district
should not have done to him

1034
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:06,017
What they permitted to do.

1035
00:46:06,018 --> 00:46:07,085
So will you join us

1036
00:46:07,086 --> 00:46:08,620
In fighting discrimination -
no -

1037
00:46:08,621 --> 00:46:10,488
Against gay and lesbian
people in franklin?

1038
00:46:10,489 --> 00:46:11,623
Not, we're not going to -

1039
00:46:11,624 --> 00:46:12,924
We're not going to join you.

1040
00:46:12,925 --> 00:46:14,092
Why not? No.

1041
00:46:14,093 --> 00:46:18,596
Because of the roads
that that will open.

1042
00:46:18,997 --> 00:46:22,400
Wilson: Kathy's testimony
may not have influenced gramley,

1043
00:46:22,401 --> 00:46:24,735
But it did have an impact
on the legislators.

1044
00:46:24,736 --> 00:46:26,571
After the hearing,

1045
00:46:26,572 --> 00:46:29,741
One of the staff offered to help
kathy and C.J. Contact the aclu

1046
00:46:29,742 --> 00:46:32,410
To press a legal case
against their school district.

1047
00:46:32,411 --> 00:46:35,179
Springer: Prior to this,
I figured, the aclu -

1048
00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:36,280
What the heck?

1049
00:46:36,281 --> 00:46:37,915
All they can do
is tell me no, you know.

1050
00:46:37,916 --> 00:46:40,451
Well, the next thing I know,

1051
00:46:40,452 --> 00:46:42,587
I got a return phone call.

1052
00:46:42,588 --> 00:46:44,622
And we had a great lawyer

1053
00:46:44,623 --> 00:46:46,434
From the aclu.

1054
00:46:53,065 --> 00:46:55,066
Wilson: What do you think
about the Latonia?

1055
00:46:55,067 --> 00:46:57,168
Boy: I'm glad
that roxanne got it,

1056
00:46:57,169 --> 00:46:58,969
Because there was a guy
that wanted to scrap

1057
00:46:58,970 --> 00:47:00,438
The whole place out
piece by piece.

1058
00:47:00,439 --> 00:47:03,941
And look at that - that picture

1059
00:47:03,942 --> 00:47:05,910
Of that chandelier.

1060
00:47:05,911 --> 00:47:09,080
It's just, like, scary!

1061
00:47:09,081 --> 00:47:11,082
It could fall any second!

1062
00:47:11,083 --> 00:47:13,559
And plus, it's great!

1063
00:47:19,057 --> 00:47:21,859
Wilson: Just two days
before the grand opening,

1064
00:47:21,860 --> 00:47:24,028
Roxanne and Linda got a call
from a neighboring

1065
00:47:24,029 --> 00:47:26,564
Businessman about
their "homosexual agenda"

1066
00:47:26,565 --> 00:47:27,565
At the Latonia.

1067
00:47:27,766 --> 00:47:29,100
What happened on that
phone call you got?

1068
00:47:29,101 --> 00:47:30,367
Hitchcock: I said,

1069
00:47:30,368 --> 00:47:32,336
"if you want to listen to people
like diane gramley,"

1070
00:47:32,337 --> 00:47:33,671
I said, "you're welcome to,
but," I said,

1071
00:47:33,672 --> 00:47:34,672
"you know what?

1072
00:47:34,773 --> 00:47:35,873
"we're trying to do something

1073
00:47:35,874 --> 00:47:37,541
Wonderful for the community here."

1074
00:47:37,542 --> 00:47:39,643
And I said, "I want to know
what diane gramley

1075
00:47:39,644 --> 00:47:41,312
Has done to promote
the community."

1076
00:47:41,313 --> 00:47:42,313
Yeah.

1077
00:47:42,380 --> 00:47:43,581
"Besides her witch hunts."

1078
00:47:43,582 --> 00:47:45,082
Yeah! I said, "she's always

1079
00:47:45,083 --> 00:47:47,084
On a witch hunt
about something."

1080
00:47:47,085 --> 00:47:48,185
Did you say that?

1081
00:47:48,186 --> 00:47:50,187
Yes, I did.

1082
00:47:50,188 --> 00:47:54,291
Henderson: The negative messages
sting so bad

1083
00:47:54,292 --> 00:47:56,026
That it takes, probably,

1084
00:47:56,027 --> 00:47:58,362
100 positive
to keep you on track -

1085
00:47:58,363 --> 00:48:01,567
When it's that hateful.

1086
00:48:04,768 --> 00:48:06,936
Wilson: After
kathy and C.J.'s case

1087
00:48:06,937 --> 00:48:08,772
About discrimination
at the high school

1088
00:48:08,773 --> 00:48:10,391
Got attention in the community,

1089
00:48:10,392 --> 00:48:11,775
The local college brought in

1090
00:48:11,776 --> 00:48:14,178
A gay christian performing arts
group from pittsburgh

1091
00:48:14,179 --> 00:48:16,680
To help people see things
from a youth perspective.

1092
00:48:16,981 --> 00:48:18,816
Somehow, I managed to get

1093
00:48:18,917 --> 00:48:21,351
C.J. And pastor micklos
to attend.

1094
00:48:21,352 --> 00:48:24,661
� my soul �

1095
00:48:25,089 --> 00:48:26,323
Woman: I hope
that our performance

1096
00:48:26,324 --> 00:48:29,159
Puts a face to gay christians

1097
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,427
And puts a face To gay people.

1098
00:48:31,730 --> 00:48:33,397
There's a lot of people
that don't know things

1099
00:48:33,398 --> 00:48:35,699
About gay people,
and they have the stereotypical

1100
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:37,868
Assumptions of gay people.

1101
00:48:37,869 --> 00:48:40,437
What you just said
about stereotypes,

1102
00:48:40,438 --> 00:48:42,906
Is that reversed at times,
as well?

1103
00:48:42,907 --> 00:48:45,275
As far as gay people having

1104
00:48:45,276 --> 00:48:48,479
Stereotypes about
straight people?

1105
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,713
Um...

1106
00:48:49,781 --> 00:48:52,216
Man: Yeah. I do it.

1107
00:48:52,217 --> 00:48:53,584
I stereotype straight people

1108
00:48:53,585 --> 00:48:57,761
As dressing badly and -

1109
00:49:00,458 --> 00:49:02,394
Thanks for coming

1110
00:49:03,395 --> 00:49:05,362
How did you guys meet?

1111
00:49:05,363 --> 00:49:06,964
We wrote a letter to the editor,

1112
00:49:06,965 --> 00:49:09,333
And they... Captured us.

1113
00:49:09,334 --> 00:49:11,902
And we became friends.

1114
00:49:11,903 --> 00:49:13,170
Awesome.

1115
00:49:13,238 --> 00:49:14,938
But I'm sorry
that part of the reason

1116
00:49:14,939 --> 00:49:16,740
You're not in school
is because violence

1117
00:49:16,741 --> 00:49:17,975
Was perpetrated against you.

1118
00:49:17,976 --> 00:49:21,445
Not good
under any circumstances.

1119
00:49:21,446 --> 00:49:22,946
Bills: How did he come around

1120
00:49:22,947 --> 00:49:24,314
Like that?

1121
00:49:24,382 --> 00:49:25,983
Wilson: I guess that he's been

1122
00:49:25,984 --> 00:49:27,818
Thinking about it
for a little bit.

1123
00:49:27,819 --> 00:49:29,119
Wow.

1124
00:49:29,187 --> 00:49:32,756
At times, we all
get stereotyped, don't we?

1125
00:49:32,757 --> 00:49:34,258
Huh?

1126
00:49:34,325 --> 00:49:39,303
Sometimes we're not so bad
as our first impressions are.

1127
00:49:41,933 --> 00:49:44,068
Woman: You know there are people

1128
00:49:44,169 --> 00:49:46,604
Who don't care
what this guy's spreading.

1129
00:49:46,605 --> 00:49:49,573
And even if they listen,
they have seen you at work,

1130
00:49:49,574 --> 00:49:52,076
And they have seen
everything you've done.

1131
00:49:52,077 --> 00:49:53,944
I know, but we got
a double whammy against us.

1132
00:49:53,945 --> 00:49:55,379
You know that.

1133
00:49:55,380 --> 00:49:56,480
I know you do,

1134
00:49:56,481 --> 00:49:58,148
But you have to not let this

1135
00:49:58,149 --> 00:50:00,884
Take away from what you've
worked so hard for.

1136
00:50:00,885 --> 00:50:02,486
Please put on your face and say,

1137
00:50:02,487 --> 00:50:05,489
"You're not
going to do this to us."

1138
00:50:05,490 --> 00:50:07,625
And make this just be
as wonderful

1139
00:50:07,626 --> 00:50:09,159
An event as it can be,

1140
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,327
And is going to be.

1141
00:50:10,328 --> 00:50:11,328
What are we going to say?

1142
00:50:11,329 --> 00:50:12,796
Latonia!

1143
00:50:12,864 --> 00:50:14,965
All: Latonia!

1144
00:50:14,966 --> 00:50:16,267
See? That's what we needed.

1145
00:50:16,268 --> 00:50:18,469
Man: I told joe
that you and roxanne

1146
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:21,572
Have been working sometimes
18-hour days getting this done.

1147
00:50:21,573 --> 00:50:23,807
I can't imagine,
because there's many weeks

1148
00:50:23,808 --> 00:50:25,943
That I don't work 18 hours.

1149
00:50:26,344 --> 00:50:29,647
But it hasn't been us
by ourselves.

1150
00:50:29,648 --> 00:50:31,448
We've had
a lot of people helping,

1151
00:50:31,449 --> 00:50:33,917
And if you're looking now,
there's an army up there,

1152
00:50:33,918 --> 00:50:35,586
Helping us get the room ready.

1153
00:50:35,587 --> 00:50:38,489
For kqw 96.3 at the Latonia,

1154
00:50:38,490 --> 00:50:40,665
I'm sam gordon.

1155
00:50:42,460 --> 00:50:44,762
Gordon: Why are you doing it?

1156
00:50:44,763 --> 00:50:46,597
Woman:
Because I love rox and Linda

1157
00:50:46,598 --> 00:50:47,598
So much.

1158
00:50:47,632 --> 00:50:50,668
That's the only reason why!

1159
00:50:50,669 --> 00:50:52,936
Joy!

1160
00:50:53,004 --> 00:50:54,505
I'm probably going to cry.

1161
00:50:54,506 --> 00:50:58,709
It's - I -
people are coming through

1162
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:59,877
To let us know.

1163
00:50:59,878 --> 00:51:01,745
� oh, oh, oh, and I'm �

1164
00:51:01,746 --> 00:51:02,980
� wrong, yeah �

1165
00:51:02,981 --> 00:51:05,916
� but I'm still
the toughest one �

1166
00:51:05,917 --> 00:51:07,117
Littler: Listen to this.

1167
00:51:07,118 --> 00:51:09,920
"the Latonia's very bold

1168
00:51:09,921 --> 00:51:11,989
"and features one of t biggest

1169
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:14,191
Chandeliers
in the United States!"

1170
00:51:14,192 --> 00:51:18,662
That baby is what I call
something!

1171
00:51:20,986 --> 00:51:23,462
Wilson: As the grand opening
of the Latonia approached,

1172
00:51:23,863 --> 00:51:25,965
Roxanne and Linda
could count on the support

1173
00:51:25,966 --> 00:51:27,367
Of their close friends.

1174
00:51:27,368 --> 00:51:31,367
But it wasn't clear wether the community
at large was ready to accept them.

1175
00:51:31,891 --> 00:51:35,167
I hate this community,
it just kind of rejects people,

1176
00:51:36,591 --> 00:51:38,391
without even kowing who they are.

1177
00:51:38,515 --> 00:51:40,515
I mean, there's nothing personal, ok?

1178
00:51:40,539 --> 00:51:42,539
It's just...

1179
00:51:45,463 --> 00:51:47,463
how can I say it...

1180
00:51:47,987 --> 00:51:49,387
I guess I'm old fashioned.

1181
00:51:49,411 --> 00:51:52,511
When I walk in the subway and I see
too many gather 2 women together,

1182
00:51:52,635 --> 00:51:56,035
I stare, you know, but 10 years ago
when I was with my wife

1183
00:51:56,059 --> 00:51:58,559
people stared. Now,
I don't get that stare.

1184
00:51:58,568 --> 00:51:59,792
So I mean, it changes over time.

1185
00:51:59,793 --> 00:52:04,467
People are getting a little more accepting
of the battage, not a lot. - Yeah.

1186
00:52:04,591 --> 00:52:09,667
I don't know why I've suddenly
just, you know, changed my mind.

1187
00:52:09,668 --> 00:52:12,469
I don't think it was as
sudden as it seemed.

1188
00:52:12,568 --> 00:52:18,869
People have to confront those issues,
beacause those people are neighbours.

1189
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:25,001
Some of the people around here are so...
I don't know how you call it, close mind.

1190
00:52:25,093 --> 00:52:29,893
You know, they want their life, they want
everybody live the way they want 'em to live,

1191
00:52:29,900 --> 00:52:32,200
Now I guess I was perfect
thinking about that too.

1192
00:52:33,141 --> 00:52:34,341
Toa talk to you.

1193
00:52:35,365 --> 00:52:37,265
This is small town America.

1194
00:52:38,289 --> 00:52:40,289
And this is where we are.

1195
00:52:40,813 --> 00:52:43,213
And I think, when people
do speak out here,

1196
00:52:43,237 --> 00:52:45,437
they will be surprised.

1197
00:52:45,461 --> 00:52:51,261
By the support that they get, you know,
not by the other stuff.

1198
00:53:04,384 --> 00:53:05,451
Okay.

1199
00:53:05,519 --> 00:53:06,685
Wilson: Clutch all the way
to the floor,

1200
00:53:06,686 --> 00:53:07,887
Left foot. That one?

1201
00:53:07,888 --> 00:53:09,488
Yeah, but with your left foot.

1202
00:53:09,489 --> 00:53:11,690
And don't let it up.

1203
00:53:11,691 --> 00:53:15,161
Or you'll go right through
that garage door.

1204
00:53:15,162 --> 00:53:16,896
Now keep it down
and put it in reverse,

1205
00:53:16,897 --> 00:53:18,064
Which is way, way, way back.

1206
00:53:18,065 --> 00:53:19,065
That way?

1207
00:53:19,099 --> 00:53:20,433
Over, yeah.

1208
00:53:20,434 --> 00:53:23,769
Oh, this is a whole new
experience of the world here.

1209
00:53:27,306 --> 00:53:28,874
I'm not used to change.

1210
00:53:29,575 --> 00:53:31,576
� hey, hey �

1211
00:53:32,677 --> 00:53:34,176
� remember when we used to play �

1212
00:53:36,977 --> 00:53:42,014
� out in your backyard
almost every day? �

1213
00:53:43,038 --> 00:53:46,114
� those were good times �

1214
00:53:47,962 --> 00:53:48,962
Wilson: After two years,

1215
00:53:49,463 --> 00:53:52,332
Kathy and C.J.,
with the help of the aclu,

1216
00:53:52,333 --> 00:53:55,101
Finally reached a settlement
with the school district

1217
00:53:55,102 --> 00:53:56,336
That included a promise

1218
00:53:56,337 --> 00:53:59,439
Of comprehensive
anti-discrimination training.

1219
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,175
C.J. And I drove over
to the high school

1220
00:54:02,176 --> 00:54:04,043
To meet kathy
and the aclu lawyer.

1221
00:54:04,044 --> 00:54:05,245
They were observing the training

1222
00:54:05,246 --> 00:54:06,379
To make sure it included

1223
00:54:06,380 --> 00:54:08,415
Sexual orientation.

1224
00:54:08,916 --> 00:54:11,751
We had to drive my car,
because C.J.'s

1225
00:54:11,752 --> 00:54:14,553
$150 special had already
been scrapped.

1226
00:54:14,554 --> 00:54:17,123
And when you stop, clutch in,
if you're in gear.

1227
00:54:17,124 --> 00:54:18,624
Clutch down, all the way
to the floor.

1228
00:54:18,625 --> 00:54:19,625
All right.

1229
00:54:19,626 --> 00:54:20,893
Clutch, man!

1230
00:54:20,894 --> 00:54:23,904
Every time you stop,
you gotta use the clutch.

1231
00:54:28,001 --> 00:54:30,236
So, how'd everything go?

1232
00:54:30,237 --> 00:54:32,105
I wish they would have had

1233
00:54:32,106 --> 00:54:35,508
This in-service training program
two years ago.

1234
00:54:35,509 --> 00:54:37,677
Maybe we could have avoided

1235
00:54:37,678 --> 00:54:39,378
All of these problems.

1236
00:54:39,379 --> 00:54:40,880
I thought it was very good.

1237
00:54:40,881 --> 00:54:42,849
I was very pleased.
I was very pleased.

1238
00:54:43,850 --> 00:54:46,151
My hands are
going to freeze off.

1239
00:54:46,152 --> 00:54:48,355
Let's go to the restaurant.

1240
00:54:49,156 --> 00:54:50,656
Okay, dude,
let me hear your comments.

1241
00:54:50,657 --> 00:54:52,291
What do you think about that?
That's awesome.

1242
00:54:52,292 --> 00:54:54,294
I want to find out
if he has, like,

1243
00:54:54,495 --> 00:54:55,895
More programs set up,

1244
00:54:56,096 --> 00:54:59,398
Like, same thing as this,
or different ones, or...

1245
00:54:59,399 --> 00:55:00,933
Springer:
It's taken us two years,

1246
00:55:00,934 --> 00:55:02,668
But it's a step
that I never thought

1247
00:55:02,669 --> 00:55:04,270
Would happen.

1248
00:55:04,271 --> 00:55:06,804
Wilson: And quite a journey
For you, I'll say.

1249
00:55:07,007 --> 00:55:10,743
Yeah, I'm just a little old
back-hills mom.

1250
00:55:11,144 --> 00:55:12,745
Yeah.

1251
00:55:12,813 --> 00:55:14,513
I - I -

1252
00:55:14,581 --> 00:55:18,618
I'll keep being that voice.

1253
00:55:18,619 --> 00:55:21,954
Even if my son
moves away from this area,

1254
00:55:21,955 --> 00:55:24,690
Which he'd like very much to do,

1255
00:55:24,691 --> 00:55:26,459
I'm not going anywhere.

1256
00:55:26,460 --> 00:55:28,327
I'm still going to be here,

1257
00:55:28,328 --> 00:55:31,264
Still going to stand up
against the bigots

1258
00:55:31,265 --> 00:55:36,269
Until they wake up and...

1259
00:55:36,270 --> 00:55:40,746
See the world for what it is.

1260
00:55:57,491 --> 00:55:59,325
Welcome to the Latonia.

1261
00:55:59,326 --> 00:56:02,028
Thank you.

1262
00:56:17,177 --> 00:56:18,577
Woman: The spirit
of the building

1263
00:56:18,578 --> 00:56:19,912
Is alive again, you know?

1264
00:56:19,913 --> 00:56:21,047
It just is.

1265
00:56:21,048 --> 00:56:23,049
I think this is just
another piece

1266
00:56:23,050 --> 00:56:25,318
That's going to come alive
and, and add

1267
00:56:25,319 --> 00:56:27,987
To all the other things
that are happening here.

1268
00:56:27,988 --> 00:56:29,555
Woman: Oh, I'm excited

1269
00:56:29,556 --> 00:56:30,990
About the vision and the energy

1270
00:56:30,991 --> 00:56:32,458
That people have here
to bring this alive.

1271
00:56:32,459 --> 00:56:34,160
It's exciting.

1272
00:56:34,161 --> 00:56:36,028
The chandelier is gorgeous.
Yeah.

1273
00:56:36,029 --> 00:56:40,639
I can't wait to see it lit up.

1274
00:56:42,302 --> 00:56:44,302
Henderson: Thank you all
for coming this evening..

1275
00:56:44,438 --> 00:56:48,080
This is a fantastic night.

1276
00:56:48,609 --> 00:56:51,878
When you start on a large
project like this,

1277
00:56:51,879 --> 00:56:53,513
You need to celebrate

1278
00:56:53,514 --> 00:56:55,548
Some mile markers.

1279
00:56:55,549 --> 00:56:56,649
But what's exciting

1280
00:56:56,650 --> 00:56:58,951
To me is watching
what's happening

1281
00:56:58,952 --> 00:57:00,286
Throughout oil city.

1282
00:57:00,287 --> 00:57:03,956
It means a lot to me
to see all these faces,

1283
00:57:03,957 --> 00:57:07,226
To see all these people
who are behind this project.

1284
00:57:07,227 --> 00:57:10,329
And it hasn't always been easy.

1285
00:57:10,330 --> 00:57:12,932
And, uh, I think I'm going to

1286
00:57:12,933 --> 00:57:16,502
Have to turn it over
to rox right now.

1287
00:57:16,503 --> 00:57:20,212
My partner, Roxanne.

1288
00:57:23,343 --> 00:57:25,611
Okay, Roxy, are we ready?

1289
00:57:25,612 --> 00:57:27,213
Hitchcock: Okay.

1290
00:57:27,214 --> 00:57:29,182
All right, one...

1291
00:57:29,183 --> 00:57:33,292
Two... Three.

1292
00:57:47,667 --> 00:57:50,403
Henderson: We actually had
imagined that moment from -

1293
00:57:50,404 --> 00:57:51,704
For a long time.

1294
00:57:51,705 --> 00:57:53,406
Hitchcock: Just seeing
the community's reaction to that

1295
00:57:53,407 --> 00:57:55,108
Just made it all worthwhile.

1296
00:57:55,109 --> 00:57:58,211
That was cool!

1297
00:57:59,712 --> 00:58:01,580
Hitchcock: We love
this old building.

1298
00:58:01,581 --> 00:58:02,614
We're fixing it up.

1299
00:58:02,615 --> 00:58:05,150
We want to turn it
into something viable

1300
00:58:05,151 --> 00:58:07,653
And economically reasonable
for oil city,

1301
00:58:07,654 --> 00:58:09,722
But in the same token,
we're giving something

1302
00:58:09,723 --> 00:58:10,723
Back to the city.

1303
00:58:10,724 --> 00:58:14,227
It's all about being able
to be ourselves

1304
00:58:14,228 --> 00:58:17,630
Without somebody
questioning every

1305
00:58:17,631 --> 00:58:20,133
Motive we might have.

1306
00:58:20,134 --> 00:58:21,968
Yeah, what they call an agenda,

1307
00:58:21,969 --> 00:58:23,002
We call our lives.

1308
00:58:23,003 --> 00:58:24,370
Right! Right!

1309
00:58:24,371 --> 00:58:27,340
� everything feels like enough �

1310
00:58:27,341 --> 00:58:28,741
Man, on P.A.: We come against

1311
00:58:28,742 --> 00:58:31,477
The strongholds of sin
in this city

1312
00:58:31,478 --> 00:58:32,845
In the name of jesus,

1313
00:58:32,846 --> 00:58:35,081
And we tear
those strongholds down

1314
00:58:35,082 --> 00:58:36,282
In the name of jesus.

1315
00:58:36,283 --> 00:58:37,817
Father, I thank you
that there is

1316
00:58:37,818 --> 00:58:40,353
An army of believers,

1317
00:58:40,354 --> 00:58:43,222
Ready to take this city
for jesus christ.

1318
00:58:43,223 --> 00:58:46,325
� I want to see jesus
lifted high �

1319
00:58:46,326 --> 00:58:50,096
� a banner that flies
across this land �

1320
00:58:50,097 --> 00:58:52,799
� that all men will see
the truth and know �

1321
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,768
� he is the way... �

1322
00:58:56,169 --> 00:58:58,170
Wilson: Diane?

1323
00:58:58,171 --> 00:58:59,772
Diane?

1324
00:59:02,576 --> 00:59:07,085
I just wanted to ask you
one more thing, diane.

1325
00:59:08,949 --> 00:59:12,151
Wilson: It had taken me
a long time to get there,

1326
00:59:12,152 --> 00:59:15,321
But in that moment,
as diane was treating me

1327
00:59:15,322 --> 00:59:16,822
Like I didn't exist,

1328
00:59:16,823 --> 00:59:18,123
I finally started to see

1329
00:59:18,124 --> 00:59:20,426
That battling with her
wasn't a useful way

1330
00:59:20,427 --> 00:59:22,828
To help make change
in my small hometown.

1331
00:59:22,829 --> 00:59:26,799
Change was starting to happen,
not through confrontation,

1332
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,667
But because of people
who decided

1333
00:59:28,668 --> 00:59:31,003
Not to leave,
like I did so many years ago,

1334
00:59:31,004 --> 00:59:33,672
People who had the courage
to start living their lives

1335
00:59:33,673 --> 00:59:35,474
Just a little more openly.

1336
00:59:35,475 --> 00:59:37,910
And because other people
in the community

1337
00:59:37,911 --> 00:59:39,780
Were willing
to meet them halfway.

1338
00:59:40,381 --> 00:59:41,581
You know, there have been times

1339
00:59:41,582 --> 00:59:43,682
When I'm, like,
"how can they think that?"

1340
00:59:43,783 --> 00:59:45,050
You know?

1341
00:59:45,118 --> 00:59:47,753
Sure. And, um, you know,
I'm in a different place

1342
00:59:47,754 --> 00:59:49,922
With that now - I mean,
I really respect

1343
00:59:49,923 --> 00:59:51,056
How you see the world

1344
00:59:51,057 --> 00:59:53,492
And how it's made you
into the people

1345
00:59:53,493 --> 00:59:56,528
That, um, opened us up
in the way you have, so...

1346
00:59:56,529 --> 00:59:59,698
You know, a lot of times,
we're afraid of the unknown.

1347
00:59:59,699 --> 01:00:03,702
And you were
the unknown quotient.

1348
01:00:03,703 --> 01:00:06,205
You could talk about the issues,

1349
01:00:06,206 --> 01:00:08,907
But the reality is that
there are people behind there

1350
01:00:08,908 --> 01:00:10,276
That we need to be sensitive to

1351
01:00:10,277 --> 01:00:12,745
And try to look
at their perspective

1352
01:00:12,746 --> 01:00:14,547
And where they're at,
and, I mean,

1353
01:00:14,548 --> 01:00:16,649
The benefit of the whole thing,
I think,

1354
01:00:16,650 --> 01:00:19,185
Is that we,
we have a friendship.

1355
01:00:19,186 --> 01:00:20,686
You know?

1356
01:00:20,754 --> 01:00:22,855
Hopefully, we're growing
as human beings,

1357
01:00:22,856 --> 01:00:25,858
You know, through it all.

1358
01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:28,803
Bills: I'll get that.

1359
01:00:31,965 --> 01:00:33,899
Do you see my cold air intake?

1360
01:00:33,900 --> 01:00:35,234
Are you seeing them fuses?

1361
01:00:35,235 --> 01:00:36,335
Wilson: I can't say I'm much

1362
01:00:36,336 --> 01:00:38,505
Of a car person,
but it looks nice.

1363
01:00:39,406 --> 01:00:42,408
Bills: $4,388.68.

1364
01:00:42,909 --> 01:00:44,943
Oh, yeah, I remember every dime.

1365
01:00:44,944 --> 01:00:47,045
Where'd you get
that kind of loot?

1366
01:00:47,046 --> 01:00:49,848
Off of that there,
what do you call it,

1367
01:00:49,849 --> 01:00:51,417
Aclu thing.

1368
01:00:51,618 --> 01:00:53,418
Good, you made it.

1369
01:00:53,419 --> 01:00:54,587
Yeah, you know it!

1370
01:00:54,688 --> 01:00:55,688
Can we go for a ride?

1371
01:00:55,689 --> 01:00:57,297
If you want to.

1372
01:01:00,626 --> 01:01:02,361
You take it easy.

1373
01:01:03,362 --> 01:01:05,197
It's like it ain't gonna go...

1374
01:01:05,198 --> 01:01:06,265
� today is fit for rent �

1375
01:01:06,266 --> 01:01:08,567
� I'm feelin' so unique �

1376
01:01:08,568 --> 01:01:11,203
� I'm feelin' really funky �

1377
01:01:11,204 --> 01:01:12,604
� I kind of like this breeze �

1378
01:01:12,605 --> 01:01:13,806
� couldn't speak �

1379
01:01:13,807 --> 01:01:15,007
� or dream �

1380
01:01:15,008 --> 01:01:16,642
� or am I aware �

1381
01:01:16,643 --> 01:01:18,311
� sometimes it's hard to tell �

1382
01:01:18,312 --> 01:01:20,646
� the difference
I made that said �

1383
01:01:20,647 --> 01:01:22,415
It rides like a cadillac.

1384
01:01:22,416 --> 01:01:24,517
� so many lonely days �

1385
01:01:24,518 --> 01:01:25,785
� but today is �

1386
01:01:25,786 --> 01:01:27,653
Bills: I went from being a jock,

1387
01:01:27,654 --> 01:01:29,588
An athlete, a basketball player,

1388
01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:30,856
Baseball player.

1389
01:01:30,857 --> 01:01:33,826
Then it turned around
to, I was a queer,

1390
01:01:33,827 --> 01:01:35,461
I was a faggot, I was no longer

1391
01:01:35,462 --> 01:01:37,596
The guy that
dislocated your shoulder

1392
01:01:37,597 --> 01:01:39,966
In football practice -
I was just a sissy,

1393
01:01:39,967 --> 01:01:42,902
Because of what I think
looks hot.

1394
01:01:42,903 --> 01:01:44,570
And whatever I think looks good

1395
01:01:44,571 --> 01:01:46,906
Just automatically makes me
into a little fairy.

1396
01:01:46,907 --> 01:01:48,174
But it doesn't.

1397
01:01:48,175 --> 01:01:51,510
Because I'm still me,
and I'll always

1398
01:01:51,511 --> 01:01:52,511
Remain me.

1399
01:01:52,512 --> 01:01:53,612
I'm not going to change.

1400
01:01:53,613 --> 01:01:54,747
� set me free �

1401
01:01:54,748 --> 01:01:56,682
� set me � � set me free �

1402
01:01:56,683 --> 01:01:58,784
� set me free �
� come on and set me free �

1403
01:01:58,785 --> 01:02:01,253
� I gotta set me free �

1404
01:02:01,254 --> 01:02:02,455
� set me free �

1405
01:02:02,456 --> 01:02:03,456
� set me �

1406
01:02:03,490 --> 01:02:04,657
� set me free �

1407
01:02:04,658 --> 01:02:06,959
� come on and set me free �

1408
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:08,894
� I've gotta set me free �

1409
01:02:08,895 --> 01:02:10,730
� free, free, free, free �

1410
01:03:12,895 --> 01:03:20,895