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<i>Dinesh D'Souza: My journey to
America can be traced back</i>

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<i>to the independence of India,</i>

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<i>the land of my fathers.</i>

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<i>D'Souza: Barack Obama's
journey can be traced back</i>

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<i>to the independence of Kenya,
the land of his fathers.</i>

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<i>Barack Obama: It's been
a long time coming,</i>

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<i>but tonight,
at this defining moment,</i>

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change has come to America.

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<i>Brian Williams:
An African-American</i>

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<i>has broken the barrier
as old as the republic.</i>

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<i>A seismic shift
in American politics.</i>

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<i>Shelby Steele: People want to be
able to tell their grandchildren</i>

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<i>that they voted
for Barack Obama.</i>

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<i>How many chances like that
come along in history?</i>

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<i>He was a wave.</i>

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I just got this sense that
nothing was going to stop it.

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<i>Obama:
To those Americans</i>

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<i>whose support
I have yet to earn,</i>

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<i>I may not have won
your vote tonight,</i>

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<i>but I hear your voice</i>

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<i>and I will be
your president, too.</i>

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<i>George Obama: The poor are getting poorer.
The rich are getting richer.</i>

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<i>The politicians,
they grab everything.</i>

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It's us who are to blame because
we are the ones who choose them.

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<i>D'Souza: We are all
shaped by our pasts.</i>

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<i>And we carry elements
of the past into the future.</i>

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<i>But nothing can
threaten the future</i>

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<i>quite as much
as the debts of the past.</i>

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<i>D'Souza:
When I was a kid,</i>

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<i>I would sit on the floor
of my house in Mumbai</i>

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<i>and I would read about
the great nations,</i>

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the great empires.

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The Roman Empire,
the Ottoman Empire,

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the British Empire...

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they all came
and they all went.

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<i>But I always thought there was
one exception to that rule,</i>

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and that's the United
States of America,

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which is a different
kind of empire

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<i>if it's an empire at all.</i>

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<i>It's an empire of ideals.</i>

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<i>In 1978, I achieved
one of my dreams</i>

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<i>by coming to America
to go to Dartmouth College.</i>

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I signed up for a group called

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the International
Students' Association.

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I liked the fact that this
group had Mexican food,

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<i>Chinese food, Indian food.</i>

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These white students, very
often, like, ponytailed guys,

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<i>would show up and they'd be,
like, sampling the food.</i>

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"Oh, Dinesh, man, really
interesting to meet you.

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You know, what a name.
You know, 'Nesh."

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<i>And then they'd be like,
"India, man,</i>

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<i>what a fascinating place, man.</i>

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I've always kind of
wanted to go,

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<i>but, you know,
never made it and stuff."</i>

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And I, you know, genuinely
would say to them

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<i>something like, "Well,
what it is about India</i>

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that's so fascinating
to you?"

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<i>"You know, it's mind-blowing.
It's just so liberating."</i>

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<i>And I would say, "Man, what
are you talking about?</i>

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<i>What do you mean
by 'liberating'?</i>

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<i>Are you talking about,
like, dowry,</i>

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<i>arranged marriage,
the caste system... what?"</i>

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<i>I sometimes wonder what my
life would have been like</i>

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<i>if I had never come to America,</i>

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<i>if I had stayed in India.</i>

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<i>I would have probably
lived my whole life</i>

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<i>in a one-mile radius
of where I was born.</i>

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<i>My destiny would,
to a large degree,</i>

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<i>have been given to me.</i>

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<i>So in America, my destiny
isn't given to me,</i>

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<i>it's constructed by me.</i>

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<i>And if I look at my life
as a writer,</i>

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<i>a thinker, a speaker,</i>

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these are possibilities

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<i>that would have been
closed to me in India.</i>

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<i>My education at Dartmouth
would have been incomplete</i>

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without a rebel group called
"The Dartmouth Review."

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This was a group
of renegade conservatives

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<i>who started the newspaper</i>

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<i>mainly for the purpose
of causing trouble.</i>

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<i>You know, someone once said
to me, "You people</i>

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<i>at 'The Dartmouth Review'
are sophomoric."</i>

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<i>And we would then say, "Well,
yeah, but we're sophomores."</i>

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<i>One of the things
I really love about America</i>

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<i>is that this is a place
where we can discuss</i>

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<i>and debate the big issues.</i>

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<i>I had an interesting debate
at Stanford University</i>

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<i>in front of 2,500 people
in Memorial Auditorium</i>

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<i>against Jesse Jackson.</i>

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And the topic was
"Is America a racist society?"

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<i>In the debate I said,
"Reverend Jackson, look,</i>

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<i>racism is a reality.</i>

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<i>And in a big country,</i>

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<i>I'm quite convinced
we can find examples of it.</i>

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<i>But show me a racism today
that is strong enough</i>

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<i>that it will prevent me or you</i>

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<i>or my daughter or your children</i>

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from achieving
the American dream.

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Where's that kind of racism?
Show it to me."

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<i>And he gives an amazing answer.</i>

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<i>He says, "I can't
show it to you, Dinesh,</i>

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<i>but that's not because
the racism isn't there...</i>

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<i>it's because
it's gone underground.</i>

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<i>The racism used to be overt.</i>

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<i>It is now covert.</i>

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<i>And so this subtle,
invisible racism</i>

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is even worse than
the old type of racism,

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<i>because the old type of racism
was at least on the surface.</i>

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<i>You could deal with it."</i>

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"Here you are,
Reverend Jackson,

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and you are
the same color as me.

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<i>If we both put our hands up</i>

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<i>and someone took a photograph
of only our hands,</i>

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<i>they could not tell
the difference.</i>

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And yet we see
the same America...

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it's like watching an accident

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and we both give a totally
different description.

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<i>And it occurred to me
I'm an immigrant</i>

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<i>and you are the leader of an
indigenous minority group.</i>

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An immigrant is coming
from another country.

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<i>And so, by that
comparative standard,</i>

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America looked fabulous.

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<i>( whistling )</i>

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<i>You're comparing America
to its own highest ideals.</i>

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<i>America is falling short.</i>

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But don't you realize
that in criticizing America

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for falling short
of that standard,

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you're actually kind of conceding
America's moral superiority?"

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<i>I was part of the Reagan generation,
and a lot of young guys...</i>

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and a bunch of us from Dartmouth...
all came to Washington

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<i>to be part of the Reagan thing.</i>

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<i>I worked for a magazine,
"Policy Review,"</i>

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<i>for a couple of years
when the White House said,</i>

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<i>"We'd like
to offer you a job."</i>

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<i>And I said, "Wow,
I'm incredibly honored,</i>

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<i>but I don't think I can do it
because I'm not a US citizen."</i>

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<i>And these three or four
guys looked at each other,</i>

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and one of them said,
"Well," he said,

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"what we're concerned about
is are you a Reaganite."

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<i>Four weeks later, I was
working in the White House.</i>

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<i>I became fascinated by Reagan</i>

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<i>because he was
such an unlikely guy.</i>

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<i>He didn't seem even like
that serious of a guy.</i>

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This guy was nevertheless

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<i>running against the huge idea</i>

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<i>of the 20th century...
collectivism,</i>

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<i>which from Reagan's
point of view</i>

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was an expanding
welfare state at home

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and a Soviet Empire
growing abroad.

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<i>And I think Reagan,
if you understand him,</i>

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<i>in one shot,
was trying to block both.</i>

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<i>I saw Reagan transform
the country firsthand.</i>

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<i>In 1980, the US
was in a tough spot...</i>

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<i>a horrible economy,
unrest in the Middle East,</i>

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<i>a lot of the similar issues
we face today.</i>

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<i>The question was could we find</i>

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<i>another transformational leader
to solve these issues?</i>

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<i>( crowd chanting )
Yes, we can! Yes, we can!</i>

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<i>Yes, we can!
Yes, we can!</i>

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<i>Yes, we can! Yes, we can!</i>

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<i>( applause )</i>

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<i>D'Souza: People voted
for Obama on the basis</i>

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<i>of what they hoped he would do.</i>

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<i>Just like the rest
of the country,</i>

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<i>I was intrigued by Obama.</i>

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When I look
at American presidents,

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most of them in their life
are totally remote from me,

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no similarities.

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George Bush, Bill Clinton...

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totally different
life story than mine.

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Obama... I get it.

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We were both born
in the same year,

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<i>which is 1961.</i>

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<i>We both went
to an Ivy League school...</i>

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<i>in his case Columbia,
later Harvard;</i>

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in my case Dartmouth.

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<i>We got our bachelor's degree.</i>

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<i>We graduated
the same year... '83.</i>

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We were married
in the same year... 1992.

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<i>We both have a kind of
mixed-race background.</i>

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<i>- ( crowd cheering )
- Obama: There is not a black America</i>

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and a white America and Latino
America and Asian America,

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there's the United States
of America.

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<i>D'Souza: Like most Americans,
I was introduced to Obama</i>

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<i>through his 2004 speech
at the Democratic Convention.</i>

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<i>- ( cheering )
- Obama: The pundits...</i>

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the pundits like to slice
and dice our country

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into red states
and blue states...

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red states for Republicans,
blue states for Democrats...

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<i>D'Souza: And if you
listen to that speech,</i>

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that's a speech that would
have drawn applause

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at a Republican Convention.

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<i>Obama: ...federal
agents poking around...</i>

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<i>D'Souza: The country rejected
two known politicians,</i>

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<i>betting on the young senator
from Illinois.</i>

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<i>This is something
we had done once before</i>

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<i>during a desperate time.</i>

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<i>Other presidents,
when they came to office,</i>

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<i>were known figures,</i>

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<i>even if their rise
was unexpected.</i>

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<i>Now, Obama came out of nowhere.</i>

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<i>No one really knew him.</i>

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<i>And he came
into the White House</i>

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<i>on the basis of promise,
of hope.</i>

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<i>Brokaw: There's a lot
about him we don't know</i>

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<i>because we haven't asked
enough tough questions.</i>

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<i>Charlie Rose: But they're
questions you don't know.</i>

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I don't know what Barack
Obama's world view is.

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- I really don't know.
- No, no. I don't either.

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<i>I don't know how he really sees</i>

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the whole global structure.

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<i>D'Souza: Obama is
voted in on hope.</i>

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<i>But when we look at his
actions in the first term,</i>

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<i>we see people
across the spectrum</i>

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<i>say radically different
things about him.</i>

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- Obama is a radical Communist.
- I think he's a Marxist.

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<i>Anderson Cooper: Do you
believe he's a Muslim?</i>

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<i>Do you really believe
he's a welfare thug?</i>

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I... he's certainly
acting like it.

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I love our president,
but he's black and white.

222
00:12:08,274 --> 00:12:10,074
He appeals to all.

223
00:12:10,075 --> 00:12:11,510
I was for Obama.

224
00:12:11,511 --> 00:12:13,912
I did some fund raisers
for him.

225
00:12:13,913 --> 00:12:16,415
He's in a tough situation,
and I'm very disappointed

226
00:12:16,416 --> 00:12:18,084
with the way some things
have gone.

227
00:12:18,085 --> 00:12:20,920
I voted for him,
I donated, I worked hard.

228
00:12:20,921 --> 00:12:22,354
I thought he was the one.

229
00:12:22,355 --> 00:12:23,955
But now? No.

230
00:12:23,956 --> 00:12:27,959
He's betrayed
virtually everything

231
00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,063
that I got the impression
he was going to do

232
00:12:31,064 --> 00:12:33,866
based on everything he said in
the run-up to the election.

233
00:12:33,867 --> 00:12:37,837
<i>D'Souza: The Federal Reserve
noted that since 2007,</i>

234
00:12:37,838 --> 00:12:41,339
<i>Americans have lost
40% of their wealth.</i>

235
00:12:41,340 --> 00:12:43,009
<i>If you had a $200,000 house,</i>

236
00:12:44,009 --> 00:12:47,512
<i>it's now worth only $120,000.</i>

237
00:12:47,513 --> 00:12:49,982
<i>That is the greatest
fall of wealth</i>

238
00:12:49,983 --> 00:12:52,852
<i>since the Great Depression.</i>

239
00:12:52,853 --> 00:12:55,353
<i>These are difficult
economic times,</i>

240
00:12:55,354 --> 00:12:57,356
<i>and the country needs
a president</i>

241
00:12:57,357 --> 00:12:59,324
<i>who can find solutions</i>

242
00:12:59,325 --> 00:13:01,459
<i>to lead us out
of this recession.</i>

243
00:13:01,460 --> 00:13:05,064
<i>That's why I was confused
when I saw Obama</i>

244
00:13:05,065 --> 00:13:08,600
<i>making some really unusual
decisions in his first term,</i>

245
00:13:08,601 --> 00:13:11,536
<i>decisions you would never see
a typical Democrat,</i>

246
00:13:11,537 --> 00:13:14,272
<i>like Clinton, Kerry, Carter,</i>

247
00:13:14,273 --> 00:13:17,376
<i>or even Kennedy make.</i>

248
00:13:17,377 --> 00:13:19,013
<i>One of his first actions
was to return</i>

249
00:13:20,013 --> 00:13:23,983
<i>a bust of Winston Churchill,
a gift from the British.</i>

250
00:13:23,984 --> 00:13:26,651
<i>Churchill led Britain
during World War II,</i>

251
00:13:26,652 --> 00:13:30,222
<i>helping us defeat the Nazis.</i>

252
00:13:30,223 --> 00:13:33,324
<i>Obama is the first president
to back Argentina,</i>

253
00:13:33,325 --> 00:13:37,363
<i>not Britain, in the dispute
over the Falkland Islands.</i>

254
00:13:37,364 --> 00:13:39,665
<i>He delays
the Keystone Pipeline,</i>

255
00:13:39,666 --> 00:13:41,401
<i>a project that
would have created</i>

256
00:13:41,402 --> 00:13:44,369
<i>tens of thousands
of American jobs.</i>

257
00:13:44,370 --> 00:13:47,171
<i>Then he blocks
oil drilling in America,</i>

258
00:13:47,172 --> 00:13:50,910
<i>but gives billions of dollars
in taxpayer money to Brazil,</i>

259
00:13:50,911 --> 00:13:53,945
<i>Colombia, and Mexico to drill.</i>

260
00:13:53,946 --> 00:13:57,616
<i>He increases NASA's budget,
but lowers their horizon</i>

261
00:13:57,617 --> 00:14:00,051
<i>from pushing for
our return to the moon</i>

262
00:14:00,052 --> 00:14:03,354
<i>to reconciling with Muslims.</i>

263
00:14:03,355 --> 00:14:05,123
<i>Very strange, but true.</i>

264
00:14:05,124 --> 00:14:07,959
( chanting in Arabic )

265
00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,363
<i>D'Souza: Then, in the Middle
East, Obama acts inexplicably.</i>

266
00:14:12,364 --> 00:14:16,669
<i>He uses force to stop what
he calls genocide in Libya,</i>

267
00:14:16,670 --> 00:14:20,571
<i>but refuses to stop
greater genocide in Syria.</i>

268
00:14:20,572 --> 00:14:25,511
<i>In Egypt he supports the removal
of America's ally, Hosni Mubarak,</i>

269
00:14:25,512 --> 00:14:29,281
<i>but he won't support
democracy protestors in Iran.</i>

270
00:14:29,282 --> 00:14:32,383
<i>Then Obama refuses
to take meaningful action</i>

271
00:14:32,384 --> 00:14:36,121
<i>to stop Iran from getting
nuclear weapons.</i>

272
00:14:36,122 --> 00:14:40,092
<i>Meanwhile, he slashes
America's nuclear arsenal</i>

273
00:14:40,093 --> 00:14:44,199
<i>and plans further reductions,
leaving America vulnerable.</i>

274
00:14:46,199 --> 00:14:47,734
<i>He takes
the Palestinian position</i>

275
00:14:47,735 --> 00:14:50,368
<i>in negotiations with Israel,</i>

276
00:14:50,369 --> 00:14:52,571
<i>even though Israel's been
a long-standing ally</i>

277
00:14:52,572 --> 00:14:54,640
<i>and most Jewish Americans</i>

278
00:14:54,641 --> 00:14:58,310
<i>traditionally are strong
Democratic supporters.</i>

279
00:14:58,311 --> 00:15:01,280
<i>All of this
was baffling behavior.</i>

280
00:15:01,281 --> 00:15:03,115
<i>So I was sort of
intrigued by...</i>

281
00:15:03,116 --> 00:15:06,151
<i>what is Obama's compass?</i>

282
00:15:06,152 --> 00:15:07,021
<i>And my way of putting it
was to ask,</i>

283
00:15:08,021 --> 00:15:11,325
<i>"What is Obama's dream?"</i>

284
00:15:13,325 --> 00:15:16,561
<i>Is it the American dream?</i>

285
00:15:16,562 --> 00:15:19,064
<i>Is it Martin
Luther King's dream</i>

286
00:15:19,065 --> 00:15:21,104
<i>or someone else's dream?</i>

287
00:15:24,104 --> 00:15:25,005
My father was
a foreign student,

288
00:15:26,005 --> 00:15:30,041
<i>born and raised in a
small village in Kenya.</i>

289
00:15:30,042 --> 00:15:33,177
<i>- ( crowd cheering )
- Obama: He grew up herding goats,</i>

290
00:15:33,178 --> 00:15:34,781
went to school
in a tin-roof shack.

291
00:15:34,782 --> 00:15:38,083
<i>His father, my
grandfather, was a cook,</i>

292
00:15:38,084 --> 00:15:41,052
a domestic servant
to the British.

293
00:15:41,053 --> 00:15:44,223
<i>D'Souza: I realized that I
was trying to fit Obama,</i>

294
00:15:44,224 --> 00:15:48,326
as many people do,
into American history

295
00:15:48,327 --> 00:15:51,298
and I was ignoring
Obama's own history.

296
00:15:53,298 --> 00:15:56,035
<i>We could guess or speculate</i>

297
00:15:56,036 --> 00:15:58,536
<i>or conjecture about
Obama's inner compass,</i>

298
00:15:58,537 --> 00:16:01,339
<i>his dream,
but we don't have to.</i>

299
00:16:01,340 --> 00:16:04,276
<i>Obama himself
gives us a big clue</i>

300
00:16:04,277 --> 00:16:07,311
<i>in the title
of his autobiography.</i>

301
00:16:07,312 --> 00:16:10,616
<i>Notice it says
"Dreams from My Father,"</i>

302
00:16:10,617 --> 00:16:13,588
<i>not "Dreams of My Father."</i>

303
00:16:15,588 --> 00:16:19,257
<i>Obama: I stood before you
and told you my story,</i>

304
00:16:19,258 --> 00:16:22,594
<i>of the brief union between
a young man from Kenya</i>

305
00:16:22,595 --> 00:16:24,629
<i>and a young woman from Kansas.</i>

306
00:16:24,630 --> 00:16:27,498
<i>D'Souza: I realized
that Obama's father</i>

307
00:16:27,499 --> 00:16:30,768
<i>might be the central character</i>

308
00:16:30,769 --> 00:16:33,305
<i>in Obama's search for identity,</i>

309
00:16:33,306 --> 00:16:35,607
<i>in his search for who he is,</i>

310
00:16:35,608 --> 00:16:40,746
<i>for where his deepest
aspirations and values</i>

311
00:16:40,747 --> 00:16:43,514
<i>come from.</i>

312
00:16:43,515 --> 00:16:46,284
<i>Barack Obama Sr.
is born near the shores</i>

313
00:16:46,285 --> 00:16:50,822
<i>of Lake Victoria
in Kenya, Africa.</i>

314
00:16:50,823 --> 00:16:55,527
<i>In 1952, the Mau Mau
Uprisings start in Kenya.</i>

315
00:16:55,528 --> 00:16:59,397
<i>In 1954, he marries Kezia Aoko,</i>

316
00:16:59,398 --> 00:17:03,402
<i>who gives birth to son Roy
and daughter Auma.</i>

317
00:17:03,403 --> 00:17:06,171
<i>1959, he is given a scholarship</i>

318
00:17:06,172 --> 00:17:08,639
<i>to study at
the University of Hawaii.</i>

319
00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,510
<i>While here,
the 23-year-old Barack</i>

320
00:17:11,511 --> 00:17:16,248
<i>meets 17-year-old Stanley Ann
Dunham in a Russian class.</i>

321
00:17:16,249 --> 00:17:20,452
<i>The two are married
on February 2nd, 1961.</i>

322
00:17:20,453 --> 00:17:23,187
<i>Stanley Ann is unaware
that he is married</i>

323
00:17:23,188 --> 00:17:26,524
<i>and has a son and daughter
on the way in Kenya.</i>

324
00:17:26,525 --> 00:17:31,496
<i>Then, on August 4th, 1961,
Barack Obama II</i>

325
00:17:31,497 --> 00:17:35,634
<i>is born at the Kapi'olani
Medical Center in Honolulu.</i>

326
00:17:35,635 --> 00:17:39,237
<i>His birth is reported
in two local newspapers.</i>

327
00:17:39,238 --> 00:17:42,741
<i>About a year later,
Barack Sr. goes to Harvard,</i>

328
00:17:42,742 --> 00:17:45,910
<i>leaving Ann
and young Barack behind.</i>

329
00:17:45,911 --> 00:17:50,581
<i>In 1963, Kenya becomes
independent of Great Britain.</i>

330
00:17:50,582 --> 00:17:56,487
<i>In 1964, Barack Sr. and Ann
officially divorce.</i>

331
00:17:56,488 --> 00:17:58,823
<i>While at Harvard
in June of '64,</i>

332
00:17:58,824 --> 00:18:02,226
<i>Barack Sr. meets
Ruth Beatrice Baker.</i>

333
00:18:02,227 --> 00:18:05,364
<i>The two move back to Kenya
where she has two sons...</i>

334
00:18:05,365 --> 00:18:07,633
<i>Okoth and Opiyo.</i>

335
00:18:07,634 --> 00:18:10,868
<i>In 1968, Barack Sr.
is reported to have</i>

336
00:18:10,869 --> 00:18:13,906
<i>one of two more sons
with his first wife Kezia...</i>

337
00:18:13,907 --> 00:18:18,243
<i>Sampson and then Bernard
in 1970.</i>

338
00:18:18,244 --> 00:18:22,681
<i>In 1971, Barack Sr. visits
his 10-year-old son in Hawaii.</i>

339
00:18:22,682 --> 00:18:24,416
<i>This is the only time</i>

340
00:18:24,417 --> 00:18:27,719
<i>Obama actually spent time
with his father,</i>

341
00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,321
<i>although the two carried on
a correspondence</i>

342
00:18:30,322 --> 00:18:34,760
<i>for several years before
Barack Sr.'s death in 1982.</i>

343
00:18:34,761 --> 00:18:36,462
<i>( Obama reading )
"There was only one problem...</i>

344
00:18:36,463 --> 00:18:38,397
<i>my father was missing.</i>

345
00:18:38,398 --> 00:18:40,800
<i>And nothing that my mother
or grandparents could tell me</i>

346
00:18:40,801 --> 00:18:43,769
<i>could obviate that single
unassailable fact.</i>

347
00:18:43,770 --> 00:18:46,338
<i>Their stories didn't tell me
why he had left.</i>

348
00:18:46,339 --> 00:18:49,677
<i>They couldn't describe what it might
have been like had he stayed."</i>

349
00:18:51,677 --> 00:18:53,878
<i>D'Souza:
This raises a question...</i>

350
00:18:53,879 --> 00:18:56,248
<i>how can Obama be so influenced</i>

351
00:18:56,249 --> 00:18:58,783
<i>by a father who wasn't around?</i>

352
00:18:58,784 --> 00:19:02,654
<i>I took this question
to psychologist Paul Vitz,</i>

353
00:19:02,655 --> 00:19:04,357
<i>who has studied the influence</i>

354
00:19:04,358 --> 00:19:07,326
<i>of absentee fathers
on children.</i>

355
00:19:07,327 --> 00:19:09,927
<i>What effect does that
have on a kid,</i>

356
00:19:09,928 --> 00:19:11,929
<i>to grow up without a father?</i>

357
00:19:11,930 --> 00:19:14,800
I'd say the general effect
of not having a father,

358
00:19:14,801 --> 00:19:17,935
if the father is seen as having

359
00:19:17,936 --> 00:19:20,438
abandoned you or left you,

360
00:19:20,439 --> 00:19:23,675
is that you become
hostile to the things

361
00:19:23,676 --> 00:19:25,810
that are associated
with your father.

362
00:19:25,811 --> 00:19:30,948
But in Obama's case, his
mother spoke of his father

363
00:19:30,949 --> 00:19:33,551
quite favorably and positively.

364
00:19:33,552 --> 00:19:37,023
If I remember,
she married later again,

365
00:19:38,023 --> 00:19:41,592
<i>but spoke much more favorably
of Obama's father</i>

366
00:19:41,593 --> 00:19:43,562
<i>than of her second husband.</i>

367
00:19:43,563 --> 00:19:48,367
She kept alive in Barack's
mind a positive image.

368
00:19:48,368 --> 00:19:51,470
<i>Isn't it true that sometimes
the absentee father can be</i>

369
00:19:51,471 --> 00:19:55,640
a better model in that he's
a model erased of defects?

370
00:19:55,641 --> 00:19:57,743
Yes, that's true.

371
00:19:57,744 --> 00:19:59,444
He's an airbrushed father.

372
00:19:59,445 --> 00:20:01,445
<i>The details of what he's like</i>

373
00:20:01,446 --> 00:20:04,582
<i>sometimes don't live up to
the image you've created.</i>

374
00:20:04,583 --> 00:20:06,752
Well, in World War II,

375
00:20:06,753 --> 00:20:09,454
not only were there
lots of absentee fathers,

376
00:20:09,455 --> 00:20:11,889
a lot of them didn't come back.

377
00:20:11,890 --> 00:20:13,925
They died in the war.

378
00:20:13,926 --> 00:20:15,794
And in the 1950s,
it wasn't uncommon

379
00:20:15,795 --> 00:20:19,063
to go into a home
and find a photograph

380
00:20:19,064 --> 00:20:21,766
of a father who had been
killed in the war.

381
00:20:21,767 --> 00:20:25,704
And he would be prominently
displayed in that photo,

382
00:20:25,705 --> 00:20:27,006
usually in the living room
or someplace like that.

383
00:20:28,006 --> 00:20:30,775
And you soon discovered
that he was a presence.

384
00:20:30,776 --> 00:20:35,079
The mother, the wife, had
wisely represented her husband

385
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,516
and the father of her
children as a good man,

386
00:20:38,517 --> 00:20:40,952
a man who had died
fighting for the country

387
00:20:40,953 --> 00:20:45,456
and often as a brave man
and a successful soldier

388
00:20:45,457 --> 00:20:48,493
or pilot or Marine
or what have you.

389
00:20:48,494 --> 00:20:51,062
Now, in Obama's case, of
course the father was alive.

390
00:20:51,063 --> 00:20:53,531
He wasn't dead.
He was in Africa.

391
00:20:53,532 --> 00:20:57,101
<i>And so, at some point in his life,
when Obama comes to college,</i>

392
00:20:57,102 --> 00:20:59,704
his sister comes to him
and she confronts him.

393
00:20:59,705 --> 00:21:02,773
And she basically says,
"The man you're idealizing,

394
00:21:02,774 --> 00:21:06,043
<i>this mythical father,
isn't like that.</i>

395
00:21:06,044 --> 00:21:08,112
<i>You have a fantasy
about the guy."</i>

396
00:21:08,113 --> 00:21:11,082
And this provokes in
Obama a kind of crisis.

397
00:21:11,083 --> 00:21:14,685
Well, it certainly
would create a crisis

398
00:21:14,686 --> 00:21:18,857
of the meaning
of your own identity.

399
00:21:18,858 --> 00:21:22,560
<i>Many young men
have this experience</i>

400
00:21:22,561 --> 00:21:27,631
of disappointment
with a father.

401
00:21:27,632 --> 00:21:31,602
It often motivates them
very strongly

402
00:21:31,603 --> 00:21:34,505
<i>to prove that they're
significant,</i>

403
00:21:34,506 --> 00:21:36,442
<i>to prove that
they're worthwhile,</i>

404
00:21:36,443 --> 00:21:38,710
<i>to prove to the world</i>

405
00:21:38,711 --> 00:21:42,047
<i>that however much
you may have disappointed me,</i>

406
00:21:42,048 --> 00:21:45,082
<i>I'm not a disappointment.</i>

407
00:21:45,083 --> 00:21:48,686
<i>D'Souza: "I would meet him
one night in a cold cell</i>

408
00:21:48,687 --> 00:21:51,389
<i>in a chamber of my dreams.</i>

409
00:21:51,390 --> 00:21:52,991
<i>My father was before me</i>

410
00:21:52,992 --> 00:21:56,395
<i>with only a cloth
wrapped around his waist.</i>

411
00:21:56,396 --> 00:21:58,429
<i>'Barack, I've always
wanted to tell you</i>

412
00:21:58,430 --> 00:22:00,866
<i>how much I love you,' he said.</i>

413
00:22:00,867 --> 00:22:05,137
<i>He seems small in my arms
now, the size of a boy.</i>

414
00:22:05,138 --> 00:22:08,106
<i>And when I whispered to him
that we might leave together,</i>

415
00:22:08,107 --> 00:22:12,109
<i>he shook his head and told me
it would be best if I left.</i>

416
00:22:12,110 --> 00:22:16,647
<i>I awoke still weeping,
my first real tears for him</i>

417
00:22:16,648 --> 00:22:21,485
<i>and for me, his jailer,
his judge, his son.</i>

418
00:22:21,486 --> 00:22:24,455
<i>And I realized
perhaps for the first time</i>

419
00:22:24,456 --> 00:22:27,725
<i>how, even in his absence,
his strong image</i>

420
00:22:27,726 --> 00:22:31,429
<i>had given me some bulwark
in which to grow up,</i>

421
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:35,599
<i>an image to live up to
or to disappoint."</i>

422
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,770
<i>Vitz: He has the conflicts
and he has the tension</i>

423
00:22:38,771 --> 00:22:43,707
<i>between his Americanism
and his Africanism.</i>

424
00:22:43,708 --> 00:22:46,144
He himself is an intersection

425
00:22:46,145 --> 00:22:50,019
of major political forces
in his own psychology.

426
00:22:53,019 --> 00:22:54,986
<i>D'Souza:
After my visit with Vitz,</i>

427
00:22:54,987 --> 00:22:58,589
<i>I felt a powerful desire
to enter Obama's world</i>

428
00:22:58,590 --> 00:23:02,159
<i>and follow his journey
to find his father.</i>

429
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,763
<i>At the age of six,
Obama moved with his mom</i>

430
00:23:05,764 --> 00:23:09,078
<i>and stepfather Lolo Soetoro
to Jakarta, Indonesia.</i>

431
00:23:19,078 --> 00:23:20,713
<i>D'Souza:
What attracted Ann to Lolo</i>

432
00:23:20,714 --> 00:23:22,880
<i>was that he was
a Third World guy</i>

433
00:23:22,881 --> 00:23:24,749
<i>like her first husband.</i>

434
00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:26,650
<i>Lolo recounted to Ann</i>

435
00:23:26,651 --> 00:23:28,820
<i>how he lost his father
and brother</i>

436
00:23:28,821 --> 00:23:30,955
<i>in the Indonesian Revolution.</i>

437
00:23:30,956 --> 00:23:32,024
<i>The Dutch burned down
Lolo's house,</i>

438
00:23:33,024 --> 00:23:35,060
<i>destroying nearly everything,</i>

439
00:23:35,061 --> 00:23:37,896
<i>forcing his mom to sell
her gold jewelry</i>

440
00:23:37,897 --> 00:23:39,763
<i>in exchange for food.</i>

441
00:23:39,764 --> 00:23:41,532
<i>Lolo, as a teacher,</i>

442
00:23:41,533 --> 00:23:43,934
<i>would now be part
of transforming the country</i>

443
00:23:43,935 --> 00:23:46,079
<i>since the colonial Dutch
had been driven out.</i>

444
00:23:53,079 --> 00:23:55,614
<i>( Obama reading ) "She had
expected it to be difficult,</i>

445
00:23:55,615 --> 00:23:57,685
<i>this new life of hers.</i>

446
00:23:59,685 --> 00:24:01,686
<i>Before leaving Hawaii,
she had tried to learn</i>

447
00:24:01,687 --> 00:24:03,891
<i>all that she could
about Indonesia...</i>

448
00:24:05,891 --> 00:24:08,158
<i>the history of colonialism...</i>

449
00:24:08,159 --> 00:24:11,932
<i>first the Dutch
for over three centuries...</i>

450
00:24:12,932 --> 00:24:16,768
<i>then the Japanese
during the war,</i>

451
00:24:16,769 --> 00:24:21,306
<i>seeking control over vast stores
of oil, metal, and timber,</i>

452
00:24:21,307 --> 00:24:24,809
<i>the fight for independence
after the war,</i>

453
00:24:24,810 --> 00:24:27,278
<i>and the emergence of a freedom
fighter named Sukarno</i>

454
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:29,058
<i>as the country's
first president.</i>

455
00:24:39,058 --> 00:24:42,827
<i>She was prepared for
the dysentery and fevers,</i>

456
00:24:42,828 --> 00:24:45,130
<i>the cold-water baths
and having to squat</i>

457
00:24:45,131 --> 00:24:48,899
<i>over a hole in the ground
to pee,</i>

458
00:24:48,900 --> 00:24:51,836
<i>the electricity's going out
every few weeks,</i>

459
00:24:51,837 --> 00:24:54,042
<i>the heat,
and the endless mosquitos.</i>

460
00:24:56,042 --> 00:24:57,741
<i>D'Souza:
So I'm fascinated</i>

461
00:24:57,742 --> 00:24:59,742
<i>because, of course,
I resonate with this.</i>

462
00:24:59,743 --> 00:25:02,180
<i>All this colonialism
and anticolonialism</i>

463
00:25:02,181 --> 00:25:05,617
<i>that is a little bit alien
to most Americans,</i>

464
00:25:05,618 --> 00:25:06,951
<i>I'm completely familiar with.</i>

465
00:25:06,952 --> 00:25:08,154
<i>I grew up with this.</i>

466
00:25:08,155 --> 00:25:09,820
<i>This was in the air</i>

467
00:25:09,821 --> 00:25:12,089
<i>when I was growing up.</i>

468
00:25:12,090 --> 00:25:14,224
<i>And suddenly I realized,
wait a minute,</i>

469
00:25:14,225 --> 00:25:17,997
this is not Birmingham
or Selma in the '60s,

470
00:25:18,997 --> 00:25:21,666
this is like the India
that I grew up in.

471
00:25:21,667 --> 00:25:24,003
<i>This scene,
these smells and sounds</i>

472
00:25:25,003 --> 00:25:27,375
<i>are completely familiar to me.</i>

473
00:25:29,375 --> 00:25:33,243
<i>The British in a sense
owned India.</i>

474
00:25:33,244 --> 00:25:35,714
<i>They could take raw materials,</i>

475
00:25:35,715 --> 00:25:38,316
<i>send them to factories
in England,</i>

476
00:25:38,317 --> 00:25:43,088
<i>make them into goods, and then
sell those goods around the world.</i>

477
00:25:43,089 --> 00:25:46,090
<i>They encouraged
an Indian educated class</i>

478
00:25:46,091 --> 00:25:48,060
<i>to help administer the empire,</i>

479
00:25:48,061 --> 00:25:50,628
but they set a very low ceiling

480
00:25:50,629 --> 00:25:54,633
above which no Indian
could rise.

481
00:25:54,634 --> 00:25:57,135
<i>So my grandfather
felt the wounds,</i>

482
00:25:57,136 --> 00:25:59,105
<i>the injuries, the insults,</i>

483
00:25:59,106 --> 00:26:01,373
<i>the humiliation of colonialism,</i>

484
00:26:01,374 --> 00:26:03,942
<i>and it always made him
not only anti-British,</i>

485
00:26:03,943 --> 00:26:05,415
but slightly
anti-white.

486
00:26:09,415 --> 00:26:11,280
<i>When I told him
for the first time...</i>

487
00:26:11,281 --> 00:26:13,119
<i>you know, I said,
"Grandpa, I think I'm going</i>

488
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,220
<i>to be going to America
for a year,"</i>

489
00:26:15,221 --> 00:26:17,255
<i>his first reaction was
something like, "Don't go.</i>

490
00:26:17,256 --> 00:26:19,273
It's all white
over there."

491
00:26:35,273 --> 00:26:37,841
<i>D'Souza: Alice Dewey is a
famous anthropologist.</i>

492
00:26:37,842 --> 00:26:42,147
<i>She's the granddaughter of
the philosopher John Dewey,</i>

493
00:26:42,148 --> 00:26:45,183
<i>and she's been
a very close friend</i>

494
00:26:45,184 --> 00:26:47,886
<i>of Ann Obama.</i>

495
00:26:47,887 --> 00:26:50,355
I happened to be
on the committee that chooses

496
00:26:50,356 --> 00:26:53,825
the new import
of graduate students.

497
00:26:53,826 --> 00:26:57,361
And here was a woman
who had spent seven years

498
00:26:57,362 --> 00:26:59,731
<i>in Indonesia, spoke Indonesian.</i>

499
00:26:59,732 --> 00:27:02,233
So I said, "I want that one,"
and, "She's mine."

500
00:27:02,234 --> 00:27:05,035
<i>D'Souza: Right. Did you
ever meet young Obama?</i>

501
00:27:05,036 --> 00:27:07,339
<i>- Dewey: Oh, yeah.
- You did? What was he like?</i>

502
00:27:07,340 --> 00:27:09,874
<i>Dewey:
A jolly, nice young man.</i>

503
00:27:09,875 --> 00:27:12,210
You know, Obama...

504
00:27:12,211 --> 00:27:14,212
his book is "Dreams
from My Father."

505
00:27:14,213 --> 00:27:16,714
- Yeah.
- And yet he knew his mother

506
00:27:16,715 --> 00:27:18,449
much better than
his father, right?

507
00:27:18,450 --> 00:27:20,418
<i>- He hardly knew his father. Met him once.
- Yes.</i>

508
00:27:20,419 --> 00:27:22,921
And do you think
it's possible, then,

509
00:27:22,922 --> 00:27:26,424
that young Obama

510
00:27:26,425 --> 00:27:30,427
in some ways got a lot of his
father's ideas through his mother?

511
00:27:30,428 --> 00:27:32,798
Well, I hadn't thought of that,
but I think you're right.

512
00:27:32,799 --> 00:27:37,268
She always respected Barack Sr.

513
00:27:37,269 --> 00:27:40,137
Now, did you also know
Lolo Soetoro?

514
00:27:40,138 --> 00:27:42,439
Yes, in time.
Yeah.

515
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,042
It seems like Lolo
went in a more...

516
00:27:45,043 --> 00:27:48,146
almost like a more pro-government
direction or a more pro-market...

517
00:27:48,147 --> 00:27:50,881
Yeah. Yeah, I think
that's possible.

518
00:27:50,882 --> 00:27:53,019
<i>D'Souza: But something very
striking happened to Lolo.</i>

519
00:27:54,019 --> 00:27:57,789
<i>He took a job working
for a California oil company.</i>

520
00:27:57,790 --> 00:28:00,158
<i>He moved the family
into a white neighborhood.</i>

521
00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:04,762
<i>He signed up with the Indonesian
military to fight the Communists.</i>

522
00:28:04,763 --> 00:28:07,831
<i>And Ann Obama turned on him.</i>

523
00:28:07,832 --> 00:28:09,433
<i>( Obama reading )
"Looking back,</i>

524
00:28:09,434 --> 00:28:11,468
<i>I'm not sure that Lolo
ever fully understood</i>

525
00:28:11,469 --> 00:28:13,938
<i>what my mother was going
through during these years,</i>

526
00:28:13,939 --> 00:28:16,473
<i>why the things he was working
so hard to provide for her</i>

527
00:28:16,474 --> 00:28:20,377
<i>seemed only to increase
the distance between them.</i>

528
00:28:20,378 --> 00:28:23,915
<i>Sometimes I would overhear him and
my mother arguing in their bedroom,</i>

529
00:28:23,916 --> 00:28:27,351
<i>usually about a refusal to attend
his company's dinner parties</i>

530
00:28:27,352 --> 00:28:31,990
<i>where American businessmen from Texas
and Louisiana would slap Lolo's back</i>

531
00:28:31,991 --> 00:28:33,924
<i>and boast about the palms
they had greased</i>

532
00:28:33,925 --> 00:28:36,126
<i>to obtain the new offshore
drilling rights</i>

533
00:28:36,127 --> 00:28:37,897
<i>while their wives
complained to my mother</i>

534
00:28:37,898 --> 00:28:40,197
<i>about the quality
of Indonesian help.</i>

535
00:28:40,198 --> 00:28:42,398
<i>He would ask her how it would
look for him to go alone</i>

536
00:28:42,399 --> 00:28:44,003
<i>and remind her that
these were her own people.</i>

537
00:28:45,003 --> 00:28:47,571
<i>And my mother's voice would
rise up to almost a shout...</i>

538
00:28:47,572 --> 00:28:50,244
<i>'They are not my people.'</i>

539
00:28:52,244 --> 00:28:54,244
<i>She had only one ally
in all this,</i>

540
00:28:54,245 --> 00:28:56,549
<i>and that was the distant
authority of my father.</i>

541
00:28:56,550 --> 00:28:59,117
<i>Increasingly, she would
remind me of his story...</i>

542
00:28:59,118 --> 00:29:01,352
<i>how he had grown up poor
in a poor country,</i>

543
00:29:01,353 --> 00:29:03,087
<i>in a poor continent,</i>

544
00:29:03,088 --> 00:29:04,954
<i>how his life had been hard,</i>

545
00:29:04,955 --> 00:29:07,295
<i>as hard as anything
that Lolo might have known.</i>

546
00:29:10,295 --> 00:29:13,531
<i>He hadn't cut corners, though,
or played all the angles.</i>

547
00:29:13,532 --> 00:29:17,100
<i>He was diligent and honest,
no matter what it cost him.</i>

548
00:29:17,101 --> 00:29:19,237
<i>He had led his life
according to principles</i>

549
00:29:19,238 --> 00:29:22,977
<i>that demanded a different
kind of toughness...</i>

550
00:29:25,977 --> 00:29:28,482
<i>principles that promised
a higher form of power.</i>

551
00:29:30,482 --> 00:29:34,385
<i>I would follow his example,
my mother decided.</i>

552
00:29:34,386 --> 00:29:36,287
<i>I had no choice.</i>

553
00:29:36,288 --> 00:29:37,129
<i>It was in the genes."</i>

554
00:29:45,129 --> 00:29:46,631
<i>D'Souza:
Ann separates Barry</i>

555
00:29:46,632 --> 00:29:50,103
<i>from Lolo's growing
pro-Western influence.</i>

556
00:29:52,103 --> 00:29:54,405
<i>She decides to send him
back to Hawaii</i>

557
00:29:54,406 --> 00:29:56,447
<i>to live with his grandparents.</i>

558
00:30:02,447 --> 00:30:05,116
<i>When we think of Hawaii,
we think of tourists</i>

559
00:30:05,117 --> 00:30:08,252
<i>and surfing and Mai Tais.</i>

560
00:30:08,253 --> 00:30:11,589
<i>But that's not the real Hawaii.</i>

561
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:15,894
<i>That's not the Hawaii
the natives experience.</i>

562
00:30:15,895 --> 00:30:17,896
<i>Obama explains.</i>

563
00:30:17,897 --> 00:30:19,563
<i>"The ugly conquest</i>

564
00:30:19,564 --> 00:30:22,934
<i>of the native Hawaiians
through aborted treaties</i>

565
00:30:22,935 --> 00:30:26,404
<i>and crippling disease brought
on by the missionaries,</i>

566
00:30:26,405 --> 00:30:30,675
<i>the carving up of rich volcanic
soil by American companies</i>

567
00:30:30,676 --> 00:30:34,111
<i>for sugar cane
and pineapple plantations,</i>

568
00:30:34,112 --> 00:30:37,080
<i>the indenturing system
that kept Japanese,</i>

569
00:30:37,081 --> 00:30:39,684
<i>Chinese,
and Filipino immigrants</i>

570
00:30:39,685 --> 00:30:44,054
<i>stooped sunup to sunset
in these same fields,</i>

571
00:30:44,055 --> 00:30:47,958
<i>the internment of Japanese
Americans during the war...</i>

572
00:30:47,959 --> 00:30:51,596
<i>all of this
was recent history."</i>

573
00:30:51,597 --> 00:30:55,032
<i>Hawaiian colonization
is still a current issue.</i>

574
00:30:55,033 --> 00:30:58,602
<i>At the University of Hawaii,
I met Willy Kauai,</i>

575
00:30:58,603 --> 00:31:03,407
<i>an activist speaking about the
American occupation of Hawaii.</i>

576
00:31:03,408 --> 00:31:06,610
What hasn't really gone
all that well-documented

577
00:31:06,611 --> 00:31:10,114
is the amount of American
resistance to this idea

578
00:31:10,115 --> 00:31:12,082
of illegally annexing Hawaii.

579
00:31:12,083 --> 00:31:14,351
There's great debates
within Congress.

580
00:31:14,352 --> 00:31:16,485
<i>All of these newspapers
throughout the United States</i>

581
00:31:16,486 --> 00:31:18,657
<i>were showing their
opposition to this idea</i>

582
00:31:18,658 --> 00:31:21,326
<i>of the United States
annexing Hawaii.</i>

583
00:31:21,327 --> 00:31:23,627
<i>So finally, President McKinley,</i>

584
00:31:23,628 --> 00:31:25,062
regardless of the law

585
00:31:25,063 --> 00:31:26,964
whether it be
international law,

586
00:31:26,965 --> 00:31:28,500
whether it be
Hawaiian Kingdom law,

587
00:31:28,501 --> 00:31:30,667
or whether it be
US Constitutional law,

588
00:31:30,668 --> 00:31:34,371
he made the decision to go
ahead and occupy Hawaii.

589
00:31:34,372 --> 00:31:37,274
<i>D'Souza: Okay. Now,
many people may think,</i>

590
00:31:37,275 --> 00:31:39,511
<i>"Well, what's the big deal?
That was 100 years ago.</i>

591
00:31:39,512 --> 00:31:42,679
<i>It's ancient history.
Who cares?"</i>

592
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,751
- Is this an issue that's live now in Hawaii?
- Very much.

593
00:31:46,752 --> 00:31:49,654
It's very much an issue
that's live in Hawaii.

594
00:31:49,655 --> 00:31:52,255
Why?
Isn't it a done deal?

595
00:31:52,256 --> 00:31:54,659
- Isn't Hawaii now the 50th state?
- Yes, yes.

596
00:31:54,660 --> 00:31:58,428
I mean, that's... that's
the general understanding

597
00:31:58,429 --> 00:32:01,098
<i>that a lot of people...
residents in Hawaii</i>

598
00:32:01,099 --> 00:32:02,002
<i>and outside
of Hawaii... have.</i>

599
00:32:03,002 --> 00:32:05,736
But since the 1960s
and the 1970s,

600
00:32:05,737 --> 00:32:09,072
there's really been a movement

601
00:32:09,073 --> 00:32:12,676
towards gaining a better
understanding of what took place.

602
00:32:12,677 --> 00:32:16,547
<i>And so a lot of that
history that I refer to</i>

603
00:32:16,548 --> 00:32:18,616
<i>is now starting to be revived</i>

604
00:32:18,617 --> 00:32:21,752
<i>and starting to gain traction.</i>

605
00:32:21,753 --> 00:32:23,655
<i>And people are starting to use</i>

606
00:32:23,656 --> 00:32:25,689
some of this history

607
00:32:25,690 --> 00:32:28,263
as a venue for legal recourse.

608
00:32:32,263 --> 00:32:34,666
<i>D'Souza: This place was
really built with the wealth</i>

609
00:32:34,667 --> 00:32:37,734
<i>of the sugar planters
and the pineapple planters,</i>

610
00:32:37,735 --> 00:32:41,806
and they used all that money to
build this beautiful school.

611
00:32:41,807 --> 00:32:45,376
<i>Of course, the ideology
of the school now</i>

612
00:32:45,377 --> 00:32:47,278
<i>is probably the opposite.</i>

613
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:50,814
It's the anticolonial ideology.

614
00:32:50,815 --> 00:32:53,216
Oppression studies,
if you will.

615
00:32:53,217 --> 00:32:56,561
And Obama got plenty of that
when he was here at Punahou.

616
00:33:02,561 --> 00:33:05,296
<i>Barack's grandfather
sought out a mentor</i>

617
00:33:05,297 --> 00:33:06,798
<i>for his grandson.</i>

618
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:08,533
<i>He found an aging journalist</i>

619
00:33:08,534 --> 00:33:11,769
<i>and poet named
Frank Marshall Davis.</i>

620
00:33:11,770 --> 00:33:14,605
<i>The two became close
over eight years</i>

621
00:33:14,606 --> 00:33:17,140
<i>until Obama left for college.</i>

622
00:33:17,141 --> 00:33:19,243
<i>I had the opportunity to talk</i>

623
00:33:19,244 --> 00:33:22,179
<i>to Cold War historian
Paul Kengor,</i>

624
00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:25,715
<i>author of a book
on Frank Marshall Davis.</i>

625
00:33:25,716 --> 00:33:29,454
What is the connection
between Obama

626
00:33:29,455 --> 00:33:31,489
<i>and Frank Marshall Davis?</i>

627
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:33,657
Well, in "Dreams
from My Father,"

628
00:33:33,658 --> 00:33:35,725
<i>he mentions Frank by name</i>

629
00:33:35,726 --> 00:33:37,528
<i>22 times.</i>

630
00:33:37,529 --> 00:33:39,530
<i>I mean, he never once
refers to him</i>

631
00:33:39,531 --> 00:33:41,732
as Frank Marshall Davis
or Frank Marshall

632
00:33:41,733 --> 00:33:43,502
<i>or Frank Davis;
it's just Frank.</i>

633
00:33:43,503 --> 00:33:44,769
Why is that?

634
00:33:44,770 --> 00:33:46,471
<i>Frank Marshall Davis</i>

635
00:33:46,472 --> 00:33:49,107
was a very controversial
political figure.

636
00:33:49,108 --> 00:33:51,409
<i>He wrote for a number
of publications</i>

637
00:33:51,410 --> 00:33:55,746
and he even started in Chicago
in the late 1940s

638
00:33:55,747 --> 00:33:58,882
a Communist Party publication
called the "Chicago Star."

639
00:33:58,883 --> 00:34:02,487
He did that for two years
and then he moved on

640
00:34:02,488 --> 00:34:05,556
to Honolulu, to Hawaii,
and there he wrote...

641
00:34:05,557 --> 00:34:07,526
<i>called the
"Honolulu Record."</i>

642
00:34:07,527 --> 00:34:09,560
And if you read these columns,

643
00:34:09,561 --> 00:34:13,297
<i>they were so breathtakingly
anti-American.</i>

644
00:34:13,298 --> 00:34:14,866
<i>I found numerous...</i>

645
00:34:14,867 --> 00:34:17,634
<i>over and over and over
and over again...</i>

646
00:34:17,635 --> 00:34:20,371
comments where he was
mocking and ridiculing

647
00:34:20,372 --> 00:34:22,473
<i>the American way.</i>

648
00:34:22,474 --> 00:34:24,875
Stanley Dunham,
the grandfather,

649
00:34:24,876 --> 00:34:27,411
was also on the left.

650
00:34:27,412 --> 00:34:30,681
Obama himself recalled
how his grandfather

651
00:34:30,682 --> 00:34:33,618
and Frank Marshall Davis
would get hammered, drunk.

652
00:34:33,619 --> 00:34:37,188
They would spend
hours together,

653
00:34:37,189 --> 00:34:40,757
and he saw in Davis
a potential mentor,

654
00:34:40,758 --> 00:34:43,460
<i>role model for Barack.</i>

655
00:34:43,461 --> 00:34:45,529
So Frank Marshall Davis
wasn't some kind

656
00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:48,299
of a benign
civil rights figure.

657
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:51,502
Frank Marshall Davis was considered
such a threat by the FBI

658
00:34:51,503 --> 00:34:53,336
<i>that they actually placed him</i>

659
00:34:53,337 --> 00:34:55,407
<i>on the federal government's
security index.</i>

660
00:34:55,408 --> 00:34:57,241
<i>And what that means</i>

661
00:34:57,242 --> 00:35:00,645
<i>is that he was considered
such a potential threat</i>

662
00:35:00,646 --> 00:35:03,313
<i>that if a war ever broke out
between the United States</i>

663
00:35:03,314 --> 00:35:05,350
<i>and the Soviet Union,
Frank Marshall Davis</i>

664
00:35:05,351 --> 00:35:07,451
<i>could be placed
under immediate arrest.</i>

665
00:35:07,452 --> 00:35:09,920
Why has the media
avoided reporting

666
00:35:09,921 --> 00:35:13,324
on the connection
between Obama and Davis?

667
00:35:13,325 --> 00:35:15,625
Mm, it would have to.

668
00:35:15,626 --> 00:35:17,460
I mean, have we ever had

669
00:35:17,461 --> 00:35:19,529
<i>a President
of the United States</i>

670
00:35:19,530 --> 00:35:22,400
who was mentored
to some meaningful degree

671
00:35:22,401 --> 00:35:25,936
by a literal pro-Soviet,
pro-Communist,

672
00:35:25,937 --> 00:35:28,672
card-carrying member
of Communist Party USA?

673
00:35:28,673 --> 00:35:31,608
Card number 47544.

674
00:35:31,609 --> 00:35:35,579
( laughs ) And of that alone...
that alone the media...

675
00:35:35,580 --> 00:35:38,449
the pro-Obama media
has to ignore.

676
00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:40,250
And they have.

677
00:35:40,251 --> 00:35:41,753
And they'll call me
"Joe McCarthy"

678
00:35:41,754 --> 00:35:43,358
for even bothering
to look at it.

679
00:35:47,358 --> 00:35:50,329
<i>( Obama reading ) "At night in the
dorms, we discussed neocolonialism,</i>

680
00:35:50,330 --> 00:35:52,829
<i>Frantz Fanon, Eurocentrism,</i>

681
00:35:52,830 --> 00:35:54,831
<i>and patriarchy.</i>

682
00:35:54,832 --> 00:35:56,667
<i>I chose my friends carefully...</i>

683
00:35:56,668 --> 00:35:59,302
<i>the more politically active
black students,</i>

684
00:35:59,303 --> 00:36:02,406
<i>the foreign students,
the Chicanos,</i>

685
00:36:02,407 --> 00:36:04,673
<i>the Marxist professors
and structural feminists</i>

686
00:36:04,674 --> 00:36:06,350
<i>and punk-rock
performance poets."</i>

687
00:36:11,350 --> 00:36:13,483
<i>D'Souza:
Obama's half-sister Auma</i>

688
00:36:13,484 --> 00:36:16,453
<i>visits him and gives
a very different picture</i>

689
00:36:16,454 --> 00:36:18,556
<i>of Barack Obama Sr.</i>

690
00:36:18,557 --> 00:36:21,659
<i>This father
is an abusive alcoholic.</i>

691
00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:23,293
<i>He beats his wives.</i>

692
00:36:23,294 --> 00:36:26,029
<i>He gets into
drunk-driving accidents.</i>

693
00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:28,032
<i>In one case he kills a man.</i>

694
00:36:28,033 --> 00:36:30,967
<i>In another, he hurts
himself so badly</i>

695
00:36:30,968 --> 00:36:33,837
<i>that both his legs
have to be amputated.</i>

696
00:36:33,838 --> 00:36:35,973
<i>He bursts into
Auma's room at night,</i>

697
00:36:35,974 --> 00:36:41,378
<i>raging about how he has been
betrayed by the world.</i>

698
00:36:41,379 --> 00:36:44,482
<i>( Obama reading ) "I felt as if my
world had been turned on its head,</i>

699
00:36:44,483 --> 00:36:47,752
<i>as if I had woken up to find
a blue sun in a yellow sky</i>

700
00:36:47,753 --> 00:36:50,755
<i>or heard animals
speaking like men.</i>

701
00:36:50,756 --> 00:36:52,990
<i>To think that all my life
I had been wrestling</i>

702
00:36:52,991 --> 00:36:56,560
<i>with nothing more
than a ghost."</i>

703
00:36:56,561 --> 00:36:59,797
<i>D'Souza: I had learned about
Obama's stepfather Lolo</i>

704
00:36:59,798 --> 00:37:02,565
<i>and his early mentor
Frank Marshall Davis,</i>

705
00:37:02,566 --> 00:37:04,802
<i>but it was time
to learn more about</i>

706
00:37:04,803 --> 00:37:08,806
<i>Barack Obama Sr.,
his absentee father.</i>

707
00:37:08,807 --> 00:37:11,574
<i>I would follow
Obama's own footsteps</i>

708
00:37:11,575 --> 00:37:14,852
<i>when he visited Kenya in 1987.</i>

709
00:37:20,852 --> 00:37:24,794
<i>( choral group
singing in Swahili )</i>

710
00:37:29,794 --> 00:37:32,017
( singing continues )

711
00:37:52,017 --> 00:37:55,988
<i>D'Souza: Kenya made a big
impression on Obama.</i>

712
00:37:56,988 --> 00:37:59,924
<i>He dedicates nearly
one-third of his book</i>

713
00:37:59,925 --> 00:38:01,131
<i>to his visit there.</i>

714
00:38:07,131 --> 00:38:11,067
<i>His family history was explained
to him by Granny Obama.</i>

715
00:38:11,068 --> 00:38:13,037
<i>She's not actually
his grandmother,</i>

716
00:38:13,038 --> 00:38:15,940
<i>but one of his grandfather's
five wives.</i>

717
00:38:15,941 --> 00:38:20,777
<i>As a member of the Luo tribe,
he was a polygamist.</i>

718
00:38:20,778 --> 00:38:22,613
<i>In an interview
with "Newsweek,"</i>

719
00:38:22,614 --> 00:38:25,516
<i>Granny Sarah said of Obama...</i>

720
00:38:25,517 --> 00:38:29,987
<i>Interpreter: "I look at him and
I see all the same things.</i>

721
00:38:29,988 --> 00:38:33,456
<i>He has taken everything
from his father.</i>

722
00:38:33,457 --> 00:38:38,161
<i>The son is realizing
everything the father wanted.</i>

723
00:38:38,162 --> 00:38:43,500
<i>The dreams of the father
are still alive in the son."</i>

724
00:38:43,501 --> 00:38:45,169
<i>D'Souza:
I was hoping to learn more</i>

725
00:38:45,170 --> 00:38:49,806
<i>from Granny Sarah
about Barack Sr. and Jr.</i>

726
00:38:49,807 --> 00:38:51,010
<i>Granny's speaking fee
was a goat.</i>

727
00:38:52,010 --> 00:38:55,612
<i>- We played it safe and brought three.
- ( bleating )</i>

728
00:38:55,613 --> 00:38:58,482
<i>At first, we were
welcomed by Granny.</i>

729
00:38:58,483 --> 00:39:00,014
<i>Through an interpreter,
she began to tell us</i>

730
00:39:00,017 --> 00:39:02,920
<i>about the Obama family.</i>

731
00:39:02,921 --> 00:39:05,556
<i>My eyes fixated on the grave</i>

732
00:39:05,557 --> 00:39:08,525
<i>of Obama's grandfather
and father.</i>

733
00:39:08,526 --> 00:39:10,795
<i>I whispered to our cameraman,</i>

734
00:39:10,796 --> 00:39:13,834
<i>"This is where
it all began."</i>

735
00:39:16,834 --> 00:39:20,917
<i>( interpreter speaking )</i>

736
00:39:32,917 --> 00:39:36,085
<i>D'Souza: The interpreter called
Obama's half-sister Auma,</i>

737
00:39:36,086 --> 00:39:39,056
<i>who told Granny
not to do the interview.</i>

738
00:39:39,057 --> 00:39:41,991
<i>The mood turned quickly.</i>

739
00:39:41,992 --> 00:39:44,628
<i>Gone was the sweet smile
which greeted us,</i>

740
00:39:44,629 --> 00:39:46,864
<i>and the police
who maintained security</i>

741
00:39:46,865 --> 00:39:50,166
<i>around the house became tense.</i>

742
00:39:50,167 --> 00:39:52,969
<i>Auma called
the local chieftains.</i>

743
00:39:52,970 --> 00:39:55,206
<i>Our security advisor
made it clear</i>

744
00:39:55,207 --> 00:39:59,086
<i>we were not safe
in Kogelo anymore.</i>

745
00:40:09,086 --> 00:40:11,490
<i>D'Souza: During the campaign
I was surfing the Web.</i>

746
00:40:11,491 --> 00:40:13,590
<i>I saw a story,
I believe, on CNN</i>

747
00:40:13,591 --> 00:40:16,025
<i>that Obama's half-brother
George Obama</i>

748
00:40:16,026 --> 00:40:18,962
<i>was living in Nairobi in a hut.</i>

749
00:40:18,963 --> 00:40:21,066
<i>And I thought, "This has got
to be some kind of a joke."</i>

750
00:40:21,067 --> 00:40:23,634
But I click on the story
and there's a picture,

751
00:40:23,635 --> 00:40:27,737
and it looks like something
out of "Slumdog Millionaire"...

752
00:40:27,738 --> 00:40:29,172
<i>a kid in his 20s</i>

753
00:40:29,173 --> 00:40:31,174
standing with his arms
outstretched,

754
00:40:31,175 --> 00:40:33,643
and the arms reflect
the size of the hut.

755
00:40:33,644 --> 00:40:35,279
<i>That's it.</i>

756
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,282
You met Obama the first time
when you were very young.

757
00:40:38,283 --> 00:40:40,217
I remember that, yeah.

758
00:40:40,218 --> 00:40:43,286
- I was, like, five years or six years old.
- Yeah.

759
00:40:43,287 --> 00:40:45,221
We shook hands,

760
00:40:45,222 --> 00:40:47,525
talked for a couple
of minutes, and they left.

761
00:40:47,526 --> 00:40:50,628
I was just surprised...

762
00:40:50,629 --> 00:40:53,964
this half-white guy

763
00:40:53,965 --> 00:40:55,866
is, like, my brother, you know?

764
00:40:55,867 --> 00:40:57,201
- Right.
- Yeah.

765
00:40:57,202 --> 00:40:59,869
As you know, during the
time of the election,

766
00:40:59,870 --> 00:41:03,974
there were some news reports
in CNN and elsewhere.

767
00:41:03,975 --> 00:41:07,177
The theme of the
articles was that

768
00:41:07,178 --> 00:41:11,151
Obama had not done
anything to help you.

769
00:41:13,151 --> 00:41:15,319
I think he has
a family of his own.

770
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,186
He's supposed
to help his family.

771
00:41:17,187 --> 00:41:20,724
Right, but don't you think
you're part of his family?

772
00:41:20,725 --> 00:41:22,259
Yeah, I'm part of his family,

773
00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:25,228
but I'm overage,
so I help myself.

774
00:41:25,229 --> 00:41:26,963
You're an adult. You can help yourself.
I understand.

775
00:41:26,964 --> 00:41:28,332
Well, let me put it
a different way.

776
00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:30,634
Recently, President Obama spoke

777
00:41:30,635 --> 00:41:34,871
and he was quoting from the
famous story of Cain and Abel,

778
00:41:34,872 --> 00:41:36,341
that we are
our brother's keeper.

779
00:41:36,342 --> 00:41:39,243
Now, my point is
you are his brother.

780
00:41:39,244 --> 00:41:41,311
Has he been your keeper?

781
00:41:41,312 --> 00:41:43,079
Go ask him.

782
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,315
He's got other issues
to deal with.

783
00:41:45,316 --> 00:41:48,118
Well, he's taking care of the
world, but don't you start at home?

784
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:49,921
Yeah, he's taking care of the
world, so he's taking care of me.

785
00:41:49,922 --> 00:41:51,855
I'm part of the world.

786
00:41:51,856 --> 00:41:53,357
So you mean when he fights

787
00:41:53,358 --> 00:41:55,325
to stop global warming,
it helps you?

788
00:41:55,326 --> 00:41:57,329
- Yeah.
- Because there's less carbon in the world

789
00:41:57,330 --> 00:41:59,829
and you can breathe
a little more easily?

790
00:41:59,830 --> 00:42:00,999
Right, so he doesn't have to help
you directly is what you're saying?

791
00:42:01,999 --> 00:42:05,768
- No, he doesn't have to do that.
- Okay.

792
00:42:05,769 --> 00:42:09,806
Your book came out what year?

793
00:42:09,807 --> 00:42:11,875
- 2010.
- 2010.

794
00:42:11,876 --> 00:42:14,278
I want to read you a couple of
things you say in your book,

795
00:42:14,279 --> 00:42:15,913
which I found very interesting

796
00:42:15,914 --> 00:42:17,247
and, quite honestly,
I agree with.

797
00:42:17,248 --> 00:42:19,717
They resonate with my own life.

798
00:42:19,718 --> 00:42:23,721
You say, "I don't think
that colonialism"...

799
00:42:23,722 --> 00:42:25,788
which is a big theme
in Obama's book also...

800
00:42:25,789 --> 00:42:29,192
"is responsible for the
sufferings and poverty of Kenya."

801
00:42:29,193 --> 00:42:32,663
You say that "around the
time of independence"...

802
00:42:32,664 --> 00:42:35,965
I'm quoting you... "Kenya
was on an economic par

803
00:42:35,966 --> 00:42:38,402
with Malaysia or Singapore.

804
00:42:38,403 --> 00:42:40,938
We were at the same level
in terms of development.

805
00:42:40,939 --> 00:42:42,940
Look where we are now
and where they are.

806
00:42:42,941 --> 00:42:45,708
They are practically
developed and industrialized

807
00:42:45,709 --> 00:42:48,945
while Kenya is still
a basket case."

808
00:42:48,946 --> 00:42:51,081
Can you say a word about that?

809
00:42:51,082 --> 00:42:52,683
Yeah, I think it's true.

810
00:42:52,684 --> 00:42:55,085
Look at South Korea.

811
00:42:55,086 --> 00:42:57,987
When we got independence,
we were far ahead of them.

812
00:42:57,988 --> 00:42:59,024
- Right.
- But look at them now.

813
00:43:00,024 --> 00:43:01,425
Now, let me read you
one more thing.

814
00:43:01,426 --> 00:43:03,793
You say about South Africa...

815
00:43:03,794 --> 00:43:05,795
I must say I even
find this a bit shocking,

816
00:43:05,796 --> 00:43:06,994
but I want your opinion on it.

817
00:43:06,997 --> 00:43:08,233
"Look at South Africa.

818
00:43:08,234 --> 00:43:10,701
They were under the whites
until the 1990s,

819
00:43:10,702 --> 00:43:12,102
and look where they are now.

820
00:43:12,103 --> 00:43:14,170
They are practically
a developed nation.

821
00:43:14,171 --> 00:43:15,873
So who is better off...

822
00:43:15,874 --> 00:43:19,243
us, who kicked out the British,
or the South Africans?

823
00:43:19,244 --> 00:43:22,413
Maybe if we had let the
whites stay a bit longer,

824
00:43:22,414 --> 00:43:24,379
we'd be where
South Africa is today."

825
00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:26,314
Do you actually...
would you actually think

826
00:43:26,315 --> 00:43:28,186
it would have been better if the
whites stayed a little longer?

827
00:43:28,187 --> 00:43:31,688
- Yeah, but it's true.
- So, because...

828
00:43:31,689 --> 00:43:33,124
It would have
developed us, yeah.

829
00:43:33,125 --> 00:43:36,995
Instead of... we were
fighting, fighting,

830
00:43:37,995 --> 00:43:40,464
- fighting over nothing.
- Okay.

831
00:43:40,465 --> 00:43:44,134
- We are Third World. They are Second World.
- Right.

832
00:43:44,135 --> 00:43:45,470
I assume you have no memories

833
00:43:45,471 --> 00:43:48,304
of your actual father,
your biological father.

834
00:43:48,305 --> 00:43:50,773
Yeah, he died when I was
six months old, so...

835
00:43:50,774 --> 00:43:53,412
What did your mom tell you
about him, if anything?

836
00:43:55,412 --> 00:43:58,915
- He was really educated.
- He was well-educated, yeah.

837
00:43:58,916 --> 00:44:00,718
Yeah, my mom
was disappointed in me

838
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,320
because I actually didn't
finish my schooling.

839
00:44:04,321 --> 00:44:08,826
- Yeah?
- So it was like

840
00:44:08,827 --> 00:44:10,960
I really did let her down.

841
00:44:10,961 --> 00:44:12,496
I let my father down, too,

842
00:44:12,497 --> 00:44:16,144
because he was an
intellectual guy, you know.

843
00:44:26,144 --> 00:44:28,198
( speaking accented English )

844
00:45:21,198 --> 00:45:23,468
<i>( Obama reading ) "A few
months after my 21st birthday,</i>

845
00:45:23,469 --> 00:45:26,069
<i>a stranger called
to give me the news.</i>

846
00:45:26,070 --> 00:45:28,337
<i>The line was thick with static.</i>

847
00:45:28,338 --> 00:45:31,010
<i>( affects accent )
'Barry? Barry, is this you?'</i>

848
00:45:32,010 --> 00:45:33,944
<i>'Yes. Who's this?'</i>

849
00:45:33,945 --> 00:45:35,914
<i>'Yes, Barry, this is
your Aunt Jane in Nairobi.</i>

850
00:45:35,915 --> 00:45:37,547
<i>Can you hear me?'</i>

851
00:45:37,548 --> 00:45:39,050
<i>'I'm sorry.
Who did you say you were?'</i>

852
00:45:39,051 --> 00:45:40,449
<i>'Aunt Jane.</i>

853
00:45:40,450 --> 00:45:42,285
<i>Listen, Barry,
your father is dead.</i>

854
00:45:42,286 --> 00:45:43,852
<i>He was killed
in a car accident.</i>

855
00:45:43,853 --> 00:45:45,287
<i>Hello?
Can you hear me?</i>

856
00:45:45,288 --> 00:45:47,227
<i>I say your father
is dead.'"</i>

857
00:46:23,227 --> 00:46:26,529
<i>D'Souza: This is why
Obama must go to Kenya...</i>

858
00:46:26,530 --> 00:46:30,032
<i>to confront his father's ghost.</i>

859
00:46:30,033 --> 00:46:32,015
<i>( drums playing )</i>

860
00:46:44,015 --> 00:46:47,289
( sizzling )

861
00:47:25,289 --> 00:47:28,659
<i>( Obama reading ) "How to explain
the emotions of that day.</i>

862
00:47:28,660 --> 00:47:33,230
<i>I can summon each moment in my
mind almost frame by frame.</i>

863
00:47:33,231 --> 00:47:37,300
<i>It wasn't simple joy that I
felt in each of these moments.</i>

864
00:47:37,301 --> 00:47:40,570
<i>Rather, it was a sense
that everything I was doing,</i>

865
00:47:40,571 --> 00:47:43,639
<i>every touch and breath and word</i>

866
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,076
<i>carried the full weight
of my life,</i>

867
00:47:47,077 --> 00:47:50,246
<i>that a circle
was beginning to close</i>

868
00:47:50,247 --> 00:47:53,183
<i>so that I might finally
recognize myself as I was,</i>

869
00:47:53,184 --> 00:47:57,453
<i>here, now, in one place.</i>

870
00:47:57,454 --> 00:48:01,729
<i>For a long time, I sat between
the two graves and wept.</i>

871
00:48:04,729 --> 00:48:07,264
<i>When my tears
were finally spent,</i>

872
00:48:07,265 --> 00:48:11,201
<i>I felt a calmness wash over me.</i>

873
00:48:11,202 --> 00:48:14,170
<i>I felt the circle
finally close.</i>

874
00:48:14,171 --> 00:48:16,373
<i>I realized that who I was,</i>

875
00:48:16,374 --> 00:48:19,476
<i>what I cared about
was no longer</i>

876
00:48:19,477 --> 00:48:22,378
<i>just a matter of intellect
or obligation..."</i>

877
00:48:22,379 --> 00:48:23,980
I, Barack Hussein Obama...

878
00:48:23,981 --> 00:48:26,215
<i>"...no longer
a construct of words."</i>

879
00:48:26,216 --> 00:48:28,418
<i>...do solemnly swear...</i>

880
00:48:28,419 --> 00:48:30,619
<i>"I saw that my life
in America...</i>

881
00:48:30,620 --> 00:48:33,757
<i>the black life, the white life,</i>

882
00:48:33,758 --> 00:48:37,194
<i>the sense of abandonment
I had felt as a boy,</i>

883
00:48:37,195 --> 00:48:40,262
<i>the frustration and hope
I had witnessed in Chicago...</i>

884
00:48:40,263 --> 00:48:42,199
<i>all of it was connected</i>

885
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,268
<i>with this small plot of earth
an ocean away,</i>

886
00:48:45,269 --> 00:48:47,604
<i>connected by more than
the accident of a name</i>

887
00:48:47,605 --> 00:48:51,273
<i>or the color of my skin.</i>

888
00:48:51,274 --> 00:48:54,511
<i>The pain I had felt
was my father's pain.</i>

889
00:48:54,512 --> 00:48:58,148
<i>My questions were
my brothers' questions.</i>

890
00:48:58,149 --> 00:49:00,756
<i>Their struggle,
my birthright."</i>

891
00:49:05,756 --> 00:49:10,127
<i>D'Souza: This is where Obama
reconciles with his father.</i>

892
00:49:10,128 --> 00:49:14,264
<i>He resolves not to be like his
father, but to take his dream.</i>

893
00:49:14,265 --> 00:49:17,701
<i>Where the father failed,
he will succeed.</i>

894
00:49:17,702 --> 00:49:20,171
<i>In doing so, perhaps
he can become worthy</i>

895
00:49:20,172 --> 00:49:24,544
<i>of his father's love,
the love he never got.</i>

896
00:49:27,544 --> 00:49:30,781
<i>But you've heard
the statements and views</i>

897
00:49:30,782 --> 00:49:33,650
<i>of President Obama
on television.</i>

898
00:49:33,651 --> 00:49:36,652
<i>- Mm-hmm.
- And you knew Barack Obama Sr.</i>

899
00:49:36,653 --> 00:49:38,454
I knew him, Barry.

900
00:49:38,455 --> 00:49:41,824
<i>- Were their ideas different or similar?
- Ah.</i>

901
00:49:41,825 --> 00:49:46,262
There I can tell you
that their ideas

902
00:49:46,263 --> 00:49:49,299
seemed to be like...

903
00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:51,102
<i>- Woman: Like one.
- The same.</i>

904
00:49:51,103 --> 00:49:53,136
<i>- Woman: The same.
- The same.</i>

905
00:49:53,137 --> 00:49:55,205
<i>D'Souza: So actually, the
father and son were...</i>

906
00:49:55,206 --> 00:49:57,113
The same.
They are.

907
00:50:03,113 --> 00:50:05,748
<i>D'Souza: In Nairobi
we found Philip Ochieng,</i>

908
00:50:05,749 --> 00:50:09,418
<i>a distinguished writer and editor
of the newspaper the "Nation."</i>

909
00:50:09,419 --> 00:50:11,155
<i>He came to America to study</i>

910
00:50:11,156 --> 00:50:13,790
<i>at the same time
Barack Obama Sr. did.</i>

911
00:50:13,791 --> 00:50:16,226
<i>The two remained
lifelong friends.</i>

912
00:50:16,227 --> 00:50:18,164
( speaking accented English )

913
00:50:20,164 --> 00:50:21,149
Right.

914
00:50:39,149 --> 00:50:43,487
<i>D'Souza: Do you believe
that the West became rich</i>

915
00:50:43,488 --> 00:50:47,135
<i>by taking the wealth
from the colonized countries?</i>

916
00:50:58,135 --> 00:51:00,934
<i>D'Souza:
Right.</i>

917
00:51:29,934 --> 00:51:31,333
To tame Israel.

918
00:51:31,334 --> 00:51:32,602
Now, do you see
Israel as, like,

919
00:51:32,603 --> 00:51:35,874
a little colonial power
in the Middle East?

920
00:51:37,874 --> 00:51:39,708
I see.

921
00:51:39,709 --> 00:51:45,215
Now, what about the economic
wing of colonialism?

922
00:51:45,216 --> 00:51:47,961
<i>( Ochieng speaking )</i>

923
00:51:57,961 --> 00:52:00,462
<i>D'Souza: We sympathize
with anticolonialism</i>

924
00:52:00,463 --> 00:52:02,363
<i>because, remember,
America started out</i>

925
00:52:02,364 --> 00:52:04,202
<i>as an anticolonial country.</i>

926
00:52:04,203 --> 00:52:07,469
<i>We got our independence
from the British.</i>

927
00:52:07,470 --> 00:52:10,273
<i>But Ochieng's anticolonialism
is different.</i>

928
00:52:10,274 --> 00:52:14,878
<i>This anticolonialism developed in the
Third World in the 20th century.</i>

929
00:52:14,879 --> 00:52:17,581
<i>It was a reaction against
Western militaries,</i>

930
00:52:17,582 --> 00:52:20,849
<i>Western missionaries,
and Western merchants.</i>

931
00:52:20,850 --> 00:52:24,221
<i>And consequently,
this kind of anticolonialism</i>

932
00:52:24,222 --> 00:52:26,389
<i>became anticapitalist,</i>

933
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:28,958
<i>anti-Christian,
and anti-American.</i>

934
00:52:28,959 --> 00:52:31,494
<i>It sees the rich countries
getting richer,</i>

935
00:52:31,495 --> 00:52:35,465
<i>not by invention
or innovation or hard work,</i>

936
00:52:35,466 --> 00:52:37,001
<i>but by invading
and occupying and looting</i>

937
00:52:38,001 --> 00:52:42,438
<i>the poor countries
and taking their resources.</i>

938
00:52:42,439 --> 00:52:44,340
<i>And here we get some help</i>

939
00:52:44,341 --> 00:52:46,476
<i>from Barack Obama Sr.</i>

940
00:52:46,477 --> 00:52:48,911
<i>In 1965,
he published an article</i>

941
00:52:48,912 --> 00:52:50,947
<i>in the "East Africa Journal"</i>

942
00:52:50,948 --> 00:52:52,749
<i>in which he asked
this question...</i>

943
00:52:52,750 --> 00:52:55,284
<i>"What does a country do
when you have</i>

944
00:52:55,285 --> 00:52:56,820
<i>powerful concentrations</i>

945
00:52:56,821 --> 00:52:58,722
<i>of economic wealth
at the top?"</i>

946
00:52:58,723 --> 00:53:01,391
<i>He proposed two solutions.</i>

947
00:53:01,392 --> 00:53:05,261
<i>First, you have to use
the power of the state</i>

948
00:53:05,262 --> 00:53:08,898
<i>to control and regulate
private industry.</i>

949
00:53:08,899 --> 00:53:13,369
<i>And second, he said you need
very high tax rates.</i>

950
00:53:13,370 --> 00:53:15,038
<i>How high?</i>

951
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:16,008
<i>"Theoretically,
there is nothing</i>

952
00:53:17,008 --> 00:53:22,045
<i>that can stop the government
from taxing 100% of income,</i>

953
00:53:22,046 --> 00:53:25,382
<i>so long as the people get
benefits from the government</i>

954
00:53:25,383 --> 00:53:28,685
<i>commensurate with
their income which is taxed."</i>

955
00:53:28,686 --> 00:53:32,322
<i>Is this what
President Obama means</i>

956
00:53:32,323 --> 00:53:34,056
<i>by paying our fair share?</i>

957
00:53:34,057 --> 00:53:36,793
<i>This is not the anticolonialism</i>

958
00:53:36,794 --> 00:53:39,762
<i>of Washington, Jefferson,
and Franklin.</i>

959
00:53:39,763 --> 00:53:43,065
<i>When I was growing up,
India tried the recipes</i>

960
00:53:43,066 --> 00:53:46,603
<i>of socialism and collectivism.</i>

961
00:53:46,604 --> 00:53:49,839
<i>So did China.
But they failed miserably.</i>

962
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,342
<i>And so now India and China,
but also other countries...</i>

963
00:53:53,343 --> 00:53:56,612
<i>South Korea,
Indonesia, Chile...</i>

964
00:53:56,613 --> 00:53:59,449
<i>these countries
are embracing globalization,</i>

965
00:53:59,450 --> 00:54:03,719
<i>modernization, capitalism...
the American recipe.</i>

966
00:54:03,720 --> 00:54:05,823
<i>And they are growing
at three to five times</i>

967
00:54:05,824 --> 00:54:08,458
<i>the rate of the United States.</i>

968
00:54:08,459 --> 00:54:11,895
<i>So Obama has things
completely upside down.</i>

969
00:54:11,896 --> 00:54:13,830
<i>He's embracing his father's</i>

970
00:54:13,831 --> 00:54:16,565
<i>failed Third World collectivism</i>

971
00:54:16,566 --> 00:54:19,069
<i>even as these other countries
are embracing</i>

972
00:54:19,070 --> 00:54:21,737
<i>the American recipe
and succeeding.</i>

973
00:54:21,738 --> 00:54:25,074
<i>So how does Obama do it?</i>

974
00:54:25,075 --> 00:54:27,643
<i>How does a guy who possesses</i>

975
00:54:27,644 --> 00:54:29,978
<i>a Third World,
anti-American view,</i>

976
00:54:29,979 --> 00:54:34,650
<i>an ideology as remote and
unrecognizable to most Americans</i>

977
00:54:34,651 --> 00:54:37,820
<i>as the capital of Kenya
or Indonesia,</i>

978
00:54:37,821 --> 00:54:40,489
<i>manage to get himself elected?</i>

979
00:54:40,490 --> 00:54:44,893
<i>How does he sell this
in Peoria?</i>

980
00:54:44,894 --> 00:54:47,496
My mother was white
and my father was black.

981
00:54:47,497 --> 00:54:49,833
I had a sort of familiarity
with both worlds.

982
00:54:49,834 --> 00:54:51,135
Barack Obama
would have had that.

983
00:54:51,136 --> 00:54:53,837
He would have known them
intimately.

984
00:54:53,838 --> 00:54:57,639
He would have known how he
was received in both worlds.

985
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,409
He understood that

986
00:54:59,410 --> 00:55:02,878
<i>given our racial history
in America,</i>

987
00:55:02,879 --> 00:55:04,880
<i>that he was in a sense
an ideal.</i>

988
00:55:04,881 --> 00:55:06,781
<i>He was a kind of redeemer.</i>

989
00:55:06,782 --> 00:55:08,753
<i>He was something
that we had to prove,</i>

990
00:55:08,754 --> 00:55:11,054
which is that
we could be a society

991
00:55:11,055 --> 00:55:13,456
that could somehow move
beyond race.

992
00:55:13,457 --> 00:55:15,058
If we couldn't
move beyond race,

993
00:55:15,059 --> 00:55:17,627
<i>he wouldn't exist, literally.</i>

994
00:55:17,628 --> 00:55:20,630
There's an aspiration
in American life to overcome,

995
00:55:20,631 --> 00:55:22,665
to redeem ourselves
from this past.

996
00:55:22,666 --> 00:55:25,735
This is an impulse
in American culture,

997
00:55:25,736 --> 00:55:27,604
<i>to finally have it behind us.</i>

998
00:55:27,605 --> 00:55:29,739
<i>He was the guy
who could touch it.</i>

999
00:55:29,740 --> 00:55:32,808
<i>And he knew people were projecting
all of these things onto him.</i>

1000
00:55:32,809 --> 00:55:34,877
<i>People want to be able
to tell their grandchildren</i>

1001
00:55:34,878 --> 00:55:36,611
<i>that they voted
for Barack Obama.</i>

1002
00:55:36,612 --> 00:55:38,816
<i>"And maybe I was wrong,
maybe I made a mistake,</i>

1003
00:55:38,817 --> 00:55:40,916
<i>maybe I didn't really know him,</i>

1004
00:55:40,917 --> 00:55:45,121
<i>but it still documents the
fact that I'm not a racist.</i>

1005
00:55:45,122 --> 00:55:48,090
I'm not what America used to be.
I'm innocent of that."

1006
00:55:48,091 --> 00:55:51,895
And how many chances like
that come along in history?

1007
00:55:51,896 --> 00:55:54,898
Not many. He's the
first one in politics.

1008
00:55:54,899 --> 00:55:56,900
Look at what's interesting.

1009
00:55:56,901 --> 00:55:59,735
The reason
he's in the White House

1010
00:55:59,736 --> 00:56:01,971
is because of his race,
his blackness.

1011
00:56:01,972 --> 00:56:05,974
<i>Minorities, often when they come
into the American mainstream,</i>

1012
00:56:05,975 --> 00:56:10,078
they wear a mask that they hope
will bring some advantage.

1013
00:56:10,079 --> 00:56:13,982
Bargaining is one of those
masks, challenging is another.

1014
00:56:13,983 --> 00:56:16,585
<i>But in bargaining,
the bargainer</i>

1015
00:56:16,586 --> 00:56:18,588
<i>goes to white Americans
and basically says,</i>

1016
00:56:18,589 --> 00:56:23,125
"Listen, I'm going to give you
the benefit of the doubt.

1017
00:56:23,126 --> 00:56:26,862
I'm going to presume
that you are not racist.

1018
00:56:26,863 --> 00:56:30,699
If I do not hold your race
against you,

1019
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:33,802
you will not hold
my race against me."

1020
00:56:33,803 --> 00:56:35,672
Call it
the "gratitude factor."

1021
00:56:35,673 --> 00:56:37,474
This is what Obama knew he had.

1022
00:56:37,475 --> 00:56:39,576
He knew he had this talent.

1023
00:56:39,577 --> 00:56:41,477
<i>( Obama reading ) "Another one
of those tricks I had learned...</i>

1024
00:56:41,478 --> 00:56:43,680
<i>people were satisfied
so long as you were courteous</i>

1025
00:56:43,681 --> 00:56:46,081
<i>and smiled and made
no sudden moves.</i>

1026
00:56:46,082 --> 00:56:49,118
<i>They were more than satisfied,
they were relieved.</i>

1027
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:52,255
<i>'Such a pleasant surprise to find
a well-mannered young black man</i>

1028
00:56:52,256 --> 00:56:53,024
<i>who didn't seem angry
all the time.'"</i>

1029
00:56:54,024 --> 00:56:56,726
He was sort of naturally born
to bargaining.

1030
00:56:56,727 --> 00:56:59,061
He talks about it
in his own autobiography

1031
00:56:59,062 --> 00:57:01,264
<i>that he realized
whites would like you</i>

1032
00:57:01,265 --> 00:57:03,833
<i>if you were black
as long as you weren't angry.</i>

1033
00:57:03,834 --> 00:57:05,635
<i>They're very likely
to support you</i>

1034
00:57:05,636 --> 00:57:07,804
<i>more than they would
someone else.</i>

1035
00:57:07,805 --> 00:57:11,907
So I think Barack Obama
realized from childhood on

1036
00:57:11,908 --> 00:57:15,277
that this was a mechanism
in American society

1037
00:57:15,278 --> 00:57:17,846
that redounded to his benefit,

1038
00:57:17,847 --> 00:57:20,116
that he could play,
that he could work

1039
00:57:20,117 --> 00:57:24,786
this gratitude that whites
feel for not being judged.

1040
00:57:24,787 --> 00:57:26,889
Let's get unified.

1041
00:57:26,890 --> 00:57:28,590
The sky will open.

1042
00:57:28,591 --> 00:57:30,293
<i>( crowd laughs )</i>

1043
00:57:30,294 --> 00:57:33,061
<i>Hillary Clinton:
The light will come down,</i>

1044
00:57:33,062 --> 00:57:36,766
celestial choirs
will be singing,

1045
00:57:36,767 --> 00:57:40,069
and everyone will know
we should do the right thing,

1046
00:57:40,070 --> 00:57:42,639
and the world will be perfect.

1047
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,840
Now, Jesse Jackson
ran for president.

1048
00:57:44,841 --> 00:57:47,143
Much of today's
civil rights leadership

1049
00:57:47,144 --> 00:57:50,980
<i>are blacks who come
into mainstream American life</i>

1050
00:57:50,981 --> 00:57:54,683
<i>and say to whites, "I'm going
to presume you are a racist.</i>

1051
00:57:54,684 --> 00:57:57,219
<i>Look at the whole history
of America.</i>

1052
00:57:57,220 --> 00:58:00,223
<i>It's been racist.
It's still a racist society.</i>

1053
00:58:00,224 --> 00:58:03,159
<i>And I'm going to presume
the worst about you,</i>

1054
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:04,894
<i>that you're a part
of that."</i>

1055
00:58:04,895 --> 00:58:08,598
<i>Challengers in that sense
look for entitlements.</i>

1056
00:58:08,599 --> 00:58:10,732
<i>They look for programmed...</i>

1057
00:58:10,733 --> 00:58:12,768
"I will give you
your innocence as a white,

1058
00:58:12,769 --> 00:58:15,904
but you're going to have to
do something to demonstrate."

1059
00:58:15,905 --> 00:58:18,241
People who are challengers
do very well

1060
00:58:18,242 --> 00:58:20,643
inside of American
institutions,

1061
00:58:20,644 --> 00:58:23,046
but they would never do well
in a general election.

1062
00:58:23,047 --> 00:58:26,915
<i>Jesse Jackson tried to run.
Al Sharpton tried to run.</i>

1063
00:58:26,916 --> 00:58:29,585
Neither of them
ever got very far at all

1064
00:58:29,586 --> 00:58:32,889
because white Americans particularly
don't feel comfortable.

1065
00:58:32,890 --> 00:58:35,289
<i>They feel that, in a sense,
they're being shaken down.</i>

1066
00:58:35,290 --> 00:58:37,260
Their leverage is being
used against them.

1067
00:58:37,261 --> 00:58:39,695
When he was running
to be the president

1068
00:58:39,696 --> 00:58:41,630
of the "Harvard Law Review,"

1069
00:58:41,631 --> 00:58:43,367
he had spent a lot of time
searching for himself

1070
00:58:43,368 --> 00:58:46,369
and deciding that
he was a black man.

1071
00:58:46,370 --> 00:58:49,639
He goes to Harvard,
and there's this

1072
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,372
politically correct,
fraught time,

1073
00:58:51,373 --> 00:58:53,276
and there are conservatives
and there are liberals.

1074
00:58:53,277 --> 00:58:55,311
He manages to persuade
all of them

1075
00:58:55,312 --> 00:58:57,380
<i>- that he's on their side.
- Man: Yeah.</i>

1076
00:58:57,381 --> 00:59:00,017
And he realizes that people
want to help him.

1077
00:59:01,017 --> 00:59:02,251
They want to help.

1078
00:59:02,252 --> 00:59:04,386
It makes people
feel good to help.

1079
00:59:04,387 --> 00:59:07,389
And this is an important
insight for him.

1080
00:59:07,390 --> 00:59:10,393
"Oh, my gosh, I have this gift.
I have this knack.

1081
00:59:10,394 --> 00:59:12,862
People are going
to want to help me.

1082
00:59:12,863 --> 00:59:14,999
I'll let them help me all the
way to the White House."

1083
00:59:15,999 --> 00:59:19,701
It was a racially
motivated vote.

1084
00:59:19,702 --> 00:59:21,404
No white man could be two years

1085
00:59:21,405 --> 00:59:23,406
out of the Illinois
State Legislature

1086
00:59:23,407 --> 00:59:25,241
and walk into the White House.

1087
00:59:25,242 --> 00:59:27,211
<i>Americans did not know him,</i>

1088
00:59:27,212 --> 00:59:29,378
<i>didn't want to know him.</i>

1089
00:59:29,379 --> 00:59:31,380
And he knew that, too.

1090
00:59:31,381 --> 00:59:33,915
<i>He knew he was invisible,
and he knew people</i>

1091
00:59:33,916 --> 00:59:36,921
<i>were projecting all
of these things onto him.</i>

1092
00:59:38,921 --> 00:59:41,421
<i>D'Souza: For white America,
a majority white country,</i>

1093
00:59:42,792 --> 00:59:47,262
<i>to turn over
the ultimate power...</i>

1094
00:59:47,263 --> 00:59:49,766
( cheering )

1095
00:59:49,767 --> 00:59:53,069
...and to entrust that
to an African-American

1096
00:59:53,070 --> 00:59:57,139
<i>only 35 years after
the Civil Rights Movement...</i>

1097
00:59:57,140 --> 00:59:58,740
<i>I mean, that is
a stunning accomplishment.</i>

1098
00:59:58,741 --> 01:00:00,711
Now, that's not
Obama's accomplishment,

1099
01:00:00,712 --> 01:00:02,258
that is America's
accomplishment.

1100
01:00:14,258 --> 01:00:18,427
<i>D'Souza: Still, for Obama to make
himself acceptable to America,</i>

1101
01:00:18,428 --> 01:00:21,964
<i>he had to hide
major elements of his past.</i>

1102
01:00:21,965 --> 01:00:24,199
<i>He had to hide the group I call</i>

1103
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,203
<i>"Obama's Founding Fathers."</i>

1104
01:00:27,204 --> 01:00:29,906
<i>And who were
his Founding Fathers?</i>

1105
01:00:29,907 --> 01:00:32,974
<i>Well, let's just say
they were not Jefferson,</i>

1106
01:00:32,975 --> 01:00:35,378
<i>Washington, and Franklin.</i>

1107
01:00:35,379 --> 01:00:38,848
<i>We already met
Frank Marshall Davis,</i>

1108
01:00:38,849 --> 01:00:42,185
<i>the poet, the Communist
Party member.</i>

1109
01:00:42,186 --> 01:00:46,389
<i>And here is Bill Ayers,
Obama's Chicago pal.</i>

1110
01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:49,424
<i>Ayers has something in common
with Osama bin Laden...</i>

1111
01:00:49,425 --> 01:00:52,761
<i>they both tried
to blow up the Pentagon.</i>

1112
01:00:52,762 --> 01:00:55,364
<i>Ayers also bombed
a New York police station</i>

1113
01:00:55,365 --> 01:00:57,500
<i>and the US Capitol as a member</i>

1114
01:00:57,501 --> 01:01:01,070
<i>of the terrorist group
Weather Underground.</i>

1115
01:01:01,071 --> 01:01:03,973
<i>Obama and Ayers met in 1995,</i>

1116
01:01:03,974 --> 01:01:06,509
<i>and the two served
on the Annenberg Challenge</i>

1117
01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:09,911
<i>and also as directors
on the Woods Fund.</i>

1118
01:01:09,912 --> 01:01:14,349
<i>Ayers held a fund raiser for then
state senate candidate Obama.</i>

1119
01:01:14,350 --> 01:01:16,019
<i>Obama sought out other mentors,</i>

1120
01:01:17,019 --> 01:01:20,188
<i>including his Columbia
professor Edward Said,</i>

1121
01:01:20,189 --> 01:01:22,026
<i>the leading anticolonial
critic of Israel</i>

1122
01:01:23,026 --> 01:01:26,027
<i>and a former representative
to the PLO.</i>

1123
01:01:26,028 --> 01:01:29,331
<i>Obama stayed in contact
with Said until his death,</i>

1124
01:01:29,332 --> 01:01:32,003
<i>even attending a Palestinian
fundraiser in Chicago</i>

1125
01:01:33,003 --> 01:01:36,272
<i>with Said as the main speaker.</i>

1126
01:01:36,273 --> 01:01:38,474
<i>Then we meet his Harvard
law professor</i>

1127
01:01:38,475 --> 01:01:43,246
<i>Roberto Mangabeira Unger,
a Brazilian socialist.</i>

1128
01:01:43,247 --> 01:01:45,915
<i>He is a leading
anticolonial scholar.</i>

1129
01:01:45,916 --> 01:01:49,552
<i>He left Harvard to join the
socialist government in Brazil,</i>

1130
01:01:49,553 --> 01:01:51,820
<i>but he was too radical
even for them,</i>

1131
01:01:51,821 --> 01:01:53,355
<i>so they kicked him out.</i>

1132
01:01:53,356 --> 01:01:55,056
<i>Now he's back at Harvard</i>

1133
01:01:55,057 --> 01:01:57,960
<i>where he seems to fit right in.</i>

1134
01:01:57,961 --> 01:02:00,362
<i>Obama took
several classes with him,</i>

1135
01:02:00,363 --> 01:02:02,332
<i>and the two kept
in close contact</i>

1136
01:02:02,333 --> 01:02:04,866
<i>until the presidential
election.</i>

1137
01:02:04,867 --> 01:02:08,036
<i>Unger declined
all interviews in 2008,</i>

1138
01:02:08,037 --> 01:02:11,373
<i>as he noted afterward
that he was "a leftist,</i>

1139
01:02:11,374 --> 01:02:15,444
<i>and, by conviction as well as
temperament, a revolutionary.</i>

1140
01:02:15,445 --> 01:02:18,514
<i>Any association of mine
with Barack Obama</i>

1141
01:02:18,515 --> 01:02:20,516
<i>in the course of the campaign</i>

1142
01:02:20,517 --> 01:02:23,286
<i>could only do harm."</i>

1143
01:02:23,287 --> 01:02:26,589
<i>Finally, there's this guy...
Jeremiah Wright.</i>

1144
01:02:26,590 --> 01:02:29,592
<i>He was Obama's pastor
for 20 years.</i>

1145
01:02:29,593 --> 01:02:32,962
<i>He married the Obamas,
baptized their children,</i>

1146
01:02:32,963 --> 01:02:36,364
<i>and was in a sense a
surrogate father for Barack.</i>

1147
01:02:36,365 --> 01:02:38,900
<i>The connection between
Obama and Wright</i>

1148
01:02:38,901 --> 01:02:41,536
<i>is undeniable
and long-lasting.</i>

1149
01:02:41,537 --> 01:02:44,607
<i>When Wright's sermons surfaced
during the election,</i>

1150
01:02:44,608 --> 01:02:46,442
<i>they were a genuine threat</i>

1151
01:02:46,443 --> 01:02:49,978
<i>to Obama's
carefully-constructed image.</i>

1152
01:02:49,979 --> 01:02:51,980
<i>So the media portrayed Wright</i>

1153
01:02:51,981 --> 01:02:53,017
<i>as a kind of a radical nut.</i>

1154
01:02:54,017 --> 01:02:55,452
<i>But he's not a nut.</i>

1155
01:02:55,453 --> 01:02:57,853
<i>He's actually
the leading champion</i>

1156
01:02:57,854 --> 01:03:00,857
<i>of Third World
liberation theology,</i>

1157
01:03:00,858 --> 01:03:03,960
<i>the religious wing
of anticolonialism.</i>

1158
01:03:03,961 --> 01:03:06,295
We cannot see
how what we are doing

1159
01:03:06,296 --> 01:03:09,465
is the same thing
al-Qaeda is doing

1160
01:03:09,466 --> 01:03:11,534
under a different colored flag.

1161
01:03:11,535 --> 01:03:14,337
<i>D'Souza: Obama knew the Wright
scandal could sink him.</i>

1162
01:03:14,338 --> 01:03:17,072
<i>That's because it raised
the sensitive issue of...</i>

1163
01:03:17,073 --> 01:03:21,610
Not God bless America,
God damn America...

1164
01:03:21,611 --> 01:03:23,546
<i>D'Souza: Wright was
saying that America</i>

1165
01:03:23,547 --> 01:03:26,514
<i>is the leading rogue nation
in the world.</i>

1166
01:03:26,515 --> 01:03:30,186
<i>Not Iran, not North Korea,
but America.</i>

1167
01:03:30,187 --> 01:03:33,355
<i>For the first time
in Obama's public ascent,</i>

1168
01:03:33,356 --> 01:03:35,056
<i>his anticolonial beliefs</i>

1169
01:03:35,057 --> 01:03:38,194
<i>were on the brink
of being exposed.</i>

1170
01:03:38,195 --> 01:03:39,895
<i>According to Wright,</i>

1171
01:03:39,896 --> 01:03:43,199
<i>he was offered $150,000
to keep quiet.</i>

1172
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,167
<i>And when that didn't work,</i>

1173
01:03:45,168 --> 01:03:49,404
<i>Obama himself met with
Wright to get his silence.</i>

1174
01:03:49,405 --> 01:03:51,975
<i>( interviewer speaking )</i>

1175
01:03:52,975 --> 01:03:55,454
<i>( Wright speaking )</i>

1176
01:04:05,454 --> 01:04:07,255
The politically
safe thing to do

1177
01:04:07,256 --> 01:04:09,091
would be to move on
from this episode

1178
01:04:09,092 --> 01:04:11,560
and just hope that it fades
into the woodwork.

1179
01:04:11,561 --> 01:04:14,529
<i>The fact is that the comments
that have been made</i>

1180
01:04:14,530 --> 01:04:17,199
and the issues that have
surfaced over the last few weeks

1181
01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:19,003
reflect the complexities
of race in this country

1182
01:04:20,003 --> 01:04:22,337
that we've never
really worked through,

1183
01:04:22,338 --> 01:04:27,175
a part of our union that we
have not yet made perfect.

1184
01:04:27,176 --> 01:04:29,379
<i>D'Souza: Obama acts
as if we need to have</i>

1185
01:04:29,380 --> 01:04:33,248
<i>some kind of a national
seminar about race relations.</i>

1186
01:04:33,249 --> 01:04:36,217
<i>Somehow the real issue,
which is whether America</i>

1187
01:04:36,218 --> 01:04:38,987
<i>is the most evil nation
in the world,</i>

1188
01:04:38,988 --> 01:04:41,190
<i>disappears into the background.</i>

1189
01:04:41,191 --> 01:04:44,125
<i>Obama has skillfully
changed the subject,</i>

1190
01:04:44,126 --> 01:04:46,228
<i>and we fell for it.</i>

1191
01:04:46,229 --> 01:04:48,364
If Senator Obama
did not say what he said,

1192
01:04:48,365 --> 01:04:50,232
he would never get elected.

1193
01:04:50,233 --> 01:04:51,702
<i>D'Souza:
Obama's Founding Fathers</i>

1194
01:04:51,703 --> 01:04:54,737
<i>are successfully swept
under the rug.</i>

1195
01:04:54,738 --> 01:04:57,239
<i>He trounces
the political machine,</i>

1196
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,310
<i>taking the Democratic nomination
away from Hillary Clinton,</i>

1197
01:05:01,311 --> 01:05:03,379
<i>- ( crowd cheering )
- ...and is then chosen as the fulfillment</i>

1198
01:05:03,380 --> 01:05:05,413
<i>of the Civil Rights Movement.</i>

1199
01:05:05,414 --> 01:05:09,485
<i>This insecure kid who grew
up in Hawaii and Indonesia,</i>

1200
01:05:09,486 --> 01:05:12,221
<i>whose life is shaped
by his father's ghost,</i>

1201
01:05:12,222 --> 01:05:15,391
<i>and whose ideology could not
be more directly remote</i>

1202
01:05:15,392 --> 01:05:18,259
<i>from what Americans
believe or care about,</i>

1203
01:05:18,260 --> 01:05:21,364
<i>is now the President
of the United States.</i>

1204
01:05:21,365 --> 01:05:24,032
It's been a long time coming.

1205
01:05:24,033 --> 01:05:28,436
But tonight, because of
what we did on this day,

1206
01:05:28,437 --> 01:05:32,407
in this election,
at this defining moment,

1207
01:05:32,408 --> 01:05:35,076
change has come to America.

1208
01:05:35,077 --> 01:05:37,078
( cheering )

1209
01:05:37,079 --> 01:05:40,516
I will ask you to join in the
work of remaking this nation

1210
01:05:40,517 --> 01:05:44,420
the only way it's been done
in America for 221 years...

1211
01:05:44,421 --> 01:05:47,223
block by block, brick by brick,

1212
01:05:47,224 --> 01:05:49,424
calloused hand
by calloused hand.

1213
01:05:49,425 --> 01:05:54,130
<i>D'Souza: Since taking office in
2009, change has come to America.</i>

1214
01:05:54,131 --> 01:05:56,599
<i>But the changes
Obama has enacted</i>

1215
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,800
<i>transcend the traditional
differences</i>

1216
01:05:58,801 --> 01:06:01,503
<i>between Democrats
and Republicans</i>

1217
01:06:01,504 --> 01:06:03,538
<i>and reflect
something different,</i>

1218
01:06:03,539 --> 01:06:06,107
<i>something completely separated</i>

1219
01:06:06,108 --> 01:06:08,143
<i>from America's thought
altogether.</i>

1220
01:06:08,144 --> 01:06:09,544
<i>( Obama reading ) "All
my life, I had carried</i>

1221
01:06:09,545 --> 01:06:11,278
<i>a single image of my father,</i>

1222
01:06:11,279 --> 01:06:13,517
<i>one that I had sometimes
rebelled against,</i>

1223
01:06:13,518 --> 01:06:15,418
<i>but had never questioned,</i>

1224
01:06:15,419 --> 01:06:18,154
<i>one that I had later tried
to take as my own."</i>

1225
01:06:18,155 --> 01:06:21,157
<i>D'Souza: Only through the
dreams of Obama's father</i>

1226
01:06:21,158 --> 01:06:25,161
<i>can we understand
the actions of the son.</i>

1227
01:06:25,162 --> 01:06:27,095
<i>Now we understand
why Obama would return</i>

1228
01:06:27,096 --> 01:06:29,066
<i>the bust of Winston Churchill.</i>

1229
01:06:29,067 --> 01:06:31,400
<i>Churchill was
a lifelong colonialist,</i>

1230
01:06:31,401 --> 01:06:33,836
<i>head of the Colonial Office,
and the prime minister</i>

1231
01:06:33,837 --> 01:06:37,773
<i>who crushed the anticolonial
Mau Mau Uprising in Kenya.</i>

1232
01:06:37,774 --> 01:06:40,141
We are still a leader
in space exploration,

1233
01:06:40,142 --> 01:06:42,411
but frankly I have been
pushing NASA

1234
01:06:42,412 --> 01:06:44,346
to revamp its vision.

1235
01:06:44,347 --> 01:06:47,083
<i>D'Souza: His anticolonialism
has diverted NASA</i>

1236
01:06:47,084 --> 01:06:49,585
<i>from being a symbol
of American greatness</i>

1237
01:06:49,586 --> 01:06:54,223
<i>to being a more modest
foreign relations operation.</i>

1238
01:06:54,224 --> 01:06:55,858
When I became
the NASA administrator,

1239
01:06:55,859 --> 01:06:59,161
he wanted me to expand our
international relationships,

1240
01:06:59,162 --> 01:07:00,763
and perhaps foremost
he wanted me to find a way

1241
01:07:00,764 --> 01:07:02,598
to reach out
to the Muslim worlds

1242
01:07:02,599 --> 01:07:05,101
to help them feel good

1243
01:07:05,102 --> 01:07:08,871
about their historic contribution
to science and engineering.

1244
01:07:08,872 --> 01:07:11,307
<i>D'Souza: The British
Empire is now gone</i>

1245
01:07:11,308 --> 01:07:14,442
<i>except for a few outposts
like the Falkland Islands.</i>

1246
01:07:14,443 --> 01:07:16,578
<i>Obama wants to close
that chapter</i>

1247
01:07:16,579 --> 01:07:19,482
<i>by returning the Falklands
to Argentina.</i>

1248
01:07:19,483 --> 01:07:21,884
<i>Through the dreams
of Obama's father,</i>

1249
01:07:21,885 --> 01:07:26,121
<i>we can understand why Obama would
restrict drilling in America</i>

1250
01:07:26,122 --> 01:07:29,625
<i>while promoting it in Brazil
and Mexico and Colombia.</i>

1251
01:07:29,626 --> 01:07:32,527
<i>He's enriching the previously
colonized countries</i>

1252
01:07:32,528 --> 01:07:35,697
<i>at the expense
of the colonizers.</i>

1253
01:07:35,698 --> 01:07:37,900
<i>Then there was
the health care bill.</i>

1254
01:07:37,901 --> 01:07:39,736
<i>Man: Have you read all the
way through the bill yet?</i>

1255
01:07:39,737 --> 01:07:41,636
( laughs )

1256
01:07:41,637 --> 01:07:43,239
We have to pass the bill

1257
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,907
so that you can find out
what is in it.

1258
01:07:45,908 --> 01:07:48,143
<i>D'Souza:
And what would this cost?</i>

1259
01:07:48,144 --> 01:07:50,813
<i>Obama had a solid handle on it.</i>

1260
01:07:50,814 --> 01:07:54,916
What they'll say is,
"Will it cost too much money?"

1261
01:07:54,917 --> 01:07:56,518
But you know what?

1262
01:07:56,519 --> 01:08:00,321
It would cost about...
it would cost about

1263
01:08:00,322 --> 01:08:04,526
the same as what
we would spend...

1264
01:08:04,527 --> 01:08:06,594
it... over the course
of 10 years,

1265
01:08:06,595 --> 01:08:08,597
it would cost
what it would cost us...

1266
01:08:08,598 --> 01:08:11,166
it...
( chuckles )

1267
01:08:11,167 --> 01:08:15,204
All right.
Okay, we're going to.

1268
01:08:15,205 --> 01:08:17,572
It would cost us about the same

1269
01:08:17,573 --> 01:08:19,807
as it would cost

1270
01:08:19,808 --> 01:08:22,311
for about...
hold on one second.

1271
01:08:22,312 --> 01:08:23,779
I can't hear myself.

1272
01:08:23,780 --> 01:08:26,315
But I'm glad
you're fired up, though.

1273
01:08:26,316 --> 01:08:28,383
I'm glad.

1274
01:08:28,384 --> 01:08:30,953
<i>D'Souza: Obama's solution is
to bring major industries</i>

1275
01:08:30,954 --> 01:08:34,526
<i>like health insurance under the
rod of government control.</i>

1276
01:08:36,526 --> 01:08:39,328
<i>Now we understand
why Obama would allow</i>

1277
01:08:39,329 --> 01:08:43,632
<i>his brother George to live
in the slums of Nairobi.</i>

1278
01:08:43,633 --> 01:08:47,570
<i>George doesn't worship at the
altar of Barack Obama Sr.,</i>

1279
01:08:47,571 --> 01:08:51,706
<i>nor does he hold his father's
anticolonial views.</i>

1280
01:08:51,707 --> 01:08:54,677
<i>Anticolonialism is not
about helping the poor</i>

1281
01:08:54,678 --> 01:08:58,419
<i>so much as it is about stripping
wealth from the rich.</i>

1282
01:09:02,419 --> 01:09:05,853
<i>And Obama has a global
definition of "rich."</i>

1283
01:09:05,854 --> 01:09:09,357
<i>When he talks about
the 1%, the 99%,</i>

1284
01:09:09,358 --> 01:09:11,493
<i>he doesn't just mean
in America,</i>

1285
01:09:11,494 --> 01:09:13,529
<i>he means globally.</i>

1286
01:09:13,530 --> 01:09:18,601
<i>Even poor Americans are rich
by global standards.</i>

1287
01:09:18,602 --> 01:09:21,736
<i>If Obama seems
weirdly sympathetic</i>

1288
01:09:21,737 --> 01:09:25,641
<i>to Muslim jihadists captured
in Afghanistan or Iraq,</i>

1289
01:09:25,642 --> 01:09:27,609
<i>wanting to close down
Guantanamo,</i>

1290
01:09:27,610 --> 01:09:30,014
<i>giving them constitutional
rights, we now know why.</i>

1291
01:09:31,014 --> 01:09:32,615
<i>He sees these guys</i>

1292
01:09:32,616 --> 01:09:34,883
<i>as anticolonial
freedom fighters,</i>

1293
01:09:34,884 --> 01:09:37,886
<i>like his dad,
the occupied people</i>

1294
01:09:37,887 --> 01:09:40,888
<i>pushing out the occupiers.</i>

1295
01:09:40,889 --> 01:09:44,496
<i>The occupied people
pushing out the occupiers?</i>

1296
01:09:47,496 --> 01:09:49,030
<i>No wonder Obama supports</i>

1297
01:09:49,031 --> 01:09:52,433
<i>the Occupy Wall Street
movement so strongly.</i>

1298
01:09:52,434 --> 01:09:54,502
You're the reason I ran
for office in the first place.

1299
01:09:54,503 --> 01:09:56,570
<i>D'Souza: Young renegades
pushing out the ones</i>

1300
01:09:56,571 --> 01:09:58,009
<i>they believe have stolen
all the wealth.</i>

1301
01:09:59,009 --> 01:10:01,810
<i>In his first term,
we have already seen</i>

1302
01:10:01,811 --> 01:10:06,048
<i>Obama begin the work
of remaking America.</i>

1303
01:10:06,049 --> 01:10:08,055
<i>But he's not done yet.</i>

1304
01:10:13,055 --> 01:10:15,457
<i>Keith Olbermann: Another guy
lost here in the complexities</i>

1305
01:10:15,458 --> 01:10:18,660
<i>of 21st-century America...
Dinesh D'Souza...</i>

1306
01:10:18,661 --> 01:10:21,397
<i>Diane Rehm:
Then you've got the cover</i>

1307
01:10:21,398 --> 01:10:23,365
<i>of "Forbes" Magazine,</i>

1308
01:10:23,366 --> 01:10:25,536
<i>that cover story
by Dinesh D'Souza.</i>

1309
01:10:27,536 --> 01:10:32,074
I think nothing has turned
my stomach so much

1310
01:10:32,075 --> 01:10:36,312
in recent years
as reading that piece.

1311
01:10:36,313 --> 01:10:38,313
Look at that "Forbes"
Magazine article

1312
01:10:38,314 --> 01:10:40,316
<i>about the president.</i>

1313
01:10:40,317 --> 01:10:41,916
It reads like science fiction.

1314
01:10:41,917 --> 01:10:44,386
- Barack Obama...
- Kenyan anticolonialist...

1315
01:10:44,387 --> 01:10:46,053
<i>Joe Biden:
Kenyan "anticolonialist."</i>

1316
01:10:46,054 --> 01:10:47,857
<i>A father who was a drunkard</i>

1317
01:10:47,858 --> 01:10:51,759
and is now reincarnated...
I forget the exact phrase...

1318
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,329
<i>in the White House.</i>

1319
01:10:53,330 --> 01:10:54,697
It's all being
channeled through.

1320
01:10:54,698 --> 01:10:56,932
And guys like Newt Gingrich

1321
01:10:56,933 --> 01:10:58,901
repeating that garbage?

1322
01:10:58,902 --> 01:11:02,571
<i>They attempt to delegitimize
one of the most talented men</i>

1323
01:11:02,572 --> 01:11:06,107
to enter American politics
in three generations.

1324
01:11:06,108 --> 01:11:08,477
There is an unhinged quality
to a lot of this,

1325
01:11:08,478 --> 01:11:12,947
and Dinesh D'Souza's story
is, for a scholar,

1326
01:11:12,948 --> 01:11:15,584
<i>very unscholarly.</i>

1327
01:11:15,585 --> 01:11:17,120
<i>Jonathan Alter:
You're trying to put him</i>

1328
01:11:17,121 --> 01:11:19,487
<i>into a left-wing
straitjacket here</i>

1329
01:11:19,488 --> 01:11:21,557
based on the writings
of his father.

1330
01:11:21,558 --> 01:11:23,623
<i>- D'Souza: Not really.
- I need more evidence.</i>

1331
01:11:23,624 --> 01:11:25,098
<i>- I'll give you the evidence.
- Where's the evidence?</i>

1332
01:11:28,098 --> 01:11:29,933
<i>D'Souza: "He's a Muslim;
he's not an American;</i>

1333
01:11:29,934 --> 01:11:32,034
he's a socialist"
I don't think really work,

1334
01:11:32,035 --> 01:11:34,069
so I'm putting
a new card on the table.

1335
01:11:34,070 --> 01:11:35,669
And look,
I'm a college president.

1336
01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:37,571
I'm not trying to bash Obama
in a crude way.

1337
01:11:37,572 --> 01:11:39,606
<i>I'm trying to give
an explanatory framework.</i>

1338
01:11:39,607 --> 01:11:41,143
<i>And I think the anticolonial
framework</i>

1339
01:11:41,144 --> 01:11:44,014
explains his domestic policy,
explains his foreign policy,

1340
01:11:45,014 --> 01:11:47,081
and explains a lot
of little stuff he's doing

1341
01:11:47,082 --> 01:11:48,055
that no other theory
can explain.

1342
01:11:53,055 --> 01:11:57,526
<i>D'Souza: At the end of my book,
I made three predictions.</i>

1343
01:11:57,527 --> 01:11:59,895
<i>Obama will do
nothing significant</i>

1344
01:11:59,896 --> 01:12:03,699
<i>to stop Iran from getting
nuclear bombs.</i>

1345
01:12:03,700 --> 01:12:05,001
<i>He hasn't.</i>

1346
01:12:06,001 --> 01:12:10,405
<i>He would spend money as if
the deficit didn't matter.</i>

1347
01:12:10,406 --> 01:12:12,740
<i>He has.</i>

1348
01:12:12,741 --> 01:12:15,811
<i>I also said that if the
political climate changes</i>

1349
01:12:15,812 --> 01:12:18,981
<i>and Obama is forced
to tackle the deficit,</i>

1350
01:12:18,982 --> 01:12:23,185
<i>he will cut the military
and seek to raise taxes.</i>

1351
01:12:23,186 --> 01:12:25,687
<i>These predictions
give me the confidence</i>

1352
01:12:25,688 --> 01:12:27,955
<i>to take what we know
about Obama</i>

1353
01:12:27,956 --> 01:12:31,927
<i>and project what America
will look like in 2016</i>

1354
01:12:31,928 --> 01:12:33,939
<i>if he's reelected.</i>

1355
01:12:43,939 --> 01:12:47,743
<i>( bell tolls )</i>

1356
01:12:47,744 --> 01:12:49,746
<i>D'Souza: We've learned
a lot about Obama,</i>

1357
01:12:49,747 --> 01:12:53,214
<i>and yet in some ways we
haven't seen the real Obama.</i>

1358
01:12:53,215 --> 01:12:56,218
<i>Why? Because
in the first term,</i>

1359
01:12:56,219 --> 01:12:59,133
<i>a president sometimes holds
his cards back.</i>

1360
01:13:10,133 --> 01:13:11,700
The comments

1361
01:13:11,701 --> 01:13:14,503
to the Russian president
off-mic

1362
01:13:14,504 --> 01:13:18,206
were an insight
into Obama's expectation

1363
01:13:18,207 --> 01:13:20,241
that after he's been reelected,

1364
01:13:20,242 --> 01:13:22,744
he will be free to pursue

1365
01:13:22,745 --> 01:13:24,580
what he really wants
to achieve...

1366
01:13:24,581 --> 01:13:26,181
changes within
the United States,

1367
01:13:26,182 --> 01:13:28,549
to move it in the
direction of socialism,

1368
01:13:28,550 --> 01:13:33,254
and internationally
to limit and withdraw

1369
01:13:33,255 --> 01:13:35,693
American presence
and influence.

1370
01:13:37,693 --> 01:13:42,097
<i>D'Souza: Welcome to the
2012 Nuclear Summit.</i>

1371
01:13:42,098 --> 01:13:44,833
<i>Now who didn't come
to the antinuclear party?</i>

1372
01:13:44,834 --> 01:13:47,969
<i>Iran didn't come.
North Korea didn't come.</i>

1373
01:13:47,970 --> 01:13:50,206
<i>And Obama officials said
they didn't care.</i>

1374
01:13:50,207 --> 01:13:52,974
<i>The whole purpose
of the summit was to reduce</i>

1375
01:13:52,975 --> 01:13:56,277
<i>the nuclear weapons
of America and its allies.</i>

1376
01:13:56,278 --> 01:13:57,014
<i>When Obama became president,</i>

1377
01:13:58,014 --> 01:14:01,018
<i>America had
around 5,000 warheads.</i>

1378
01:14:02,018 --> 01:14:04,585
<i>Now, according
to the START Treaty,</i>

1379
01:14:04,586 --> 01:14:07,588
<i>America will go down
to around 1,500.</i>

1380
01:14:07,589 --> 01:14:09,026
<i>Obama has asked
the Pentagon to study</i>

1381
01:14:10,026 --> 01:14:13,661
<i>going down even further to 300.</i>

1382
01:14:13,662 --> 01:14:15,897
<i>And here is
the ultimate goal...</i>

1383
01:14:15,898 --> 01:14:17,000
No single nation
should pick and choose

1384
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,303
which nation
holds nuclear weapons.

1385
01:14:21,304 --> 01:14:23,238
And that's why
I strongly reaffirm

1386
01:14:23,239 --> 01:14:25,307
America's commitment
to seek a world

1387
01:14:25,308 --> 01:14:28,677
in which no nations
hold nuclear weapons.

1388
01:14:28,678 --> 01:14:30,946
<i>D'Souza:
A nuclear-free world?</i>

1389
01:14:30,947 --> 01:14:32,713
<i>Dreamy idea.</i>

1390
01:14:32,714 --> 01:14:34,716
<i>The only problem is that
none of our enemies</i>

1391
01:14:34,717 --> 01:14:37,084
<i>are reducing their stockpiles.</i>

1392
01:14:37,085 --> 01:14:39,922
<i>Obama calls for
a nuclear-free world,</i>

1393
01:14:39,923 --> 01:14:41,890
<i>but the only countries'
nuclear weapons</i>

1394
01:14:41,891 --> 01:14:45,294
<i>that he can reduce is ours.</i>

1395
01:14:45,295 --> 01:14:47,161
<i>Why is he doing it?</i>

1396
01:14:47,162 --> 01:14:49,298
<i>This levels the nuclear
playing field</i>

1397
01:14:49,299 --> 01:14:52,733
<i>between America, Russia, China,</i>

1398
01:14:52,734 --> 01:14:54,269
<i>North Korea, and everyone else.</i>

1399
01:14:54,270 --> 01:14:56,605
<i>This is
the anticolonial dream...</i>

1400
01:14:56,606 --> 01:14:59,840
<i>to end American
nuclear superiority</i>

1401
01:14:59,841 --> 01:15:02,343
<i>and restore a world
where many countries</i>

1402
01:15:02,344 --> 01:15:04,718
<i>have equal power.</i>

1403
01:15:08,718 --> 01:15:10,785
He doesn't think well
of the United States,

1404
01:15:10,786 --> 01:15:13,989
and therefore he doesn't want
to see its influence expand,

1405
01:15:13,990 --> 01:15:17,692
which is a strange thing
for a US President.

1406
01:15:17,693 --> 01:15:20,128
<i>D'Souza:
I met with Daniel Pipes,</i>

1407
01:15:20,129 --> 01:15:22,031
<i>an expert on the Middle East</i>

1408
01:15:22,032 --> 01:15:24,799
<i>and one of the only people
to raise the alarm</i>

1409
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:28,904
<i>about radical Islam
before September 11th.</i>

1410
01:15:28,905 --> 01:15:32,740
I've come here to Cairo
to seek a new beginning

1411
01:15:32,741 --> 01:15:36,678
between the United States
and Muslims around the world.

1412
01:15:36,679 --> 01:15:40,848
One based on mutual interest
and mutual respect

1413
01:15:40,849 --> 01:15:44,218
and one based upon the truth
that America and Islam

1414
01:15:44,219 --> 01:15:46,221
are not exclusive

1415
01:15:46,222 --> 01:15:49,991
and need not be in competition.

1416
01:15:49,992 --> 01:15:55,163
Instead, they overlap
and share common principles...

1417
01:15:55,164 --> 01:15:58,933
principles of justice
and progress,

1418
01:15:58,934 --> 01:16:03,304
tolerance and the dignity
of all human beings.

1419
01:16:03,305 --> 01:16:06,775
Comes out of a tradition that's
highly critical of the United States.

1420
01:16:06,776 --> 01:16:11,346
Sees the United States,
internally badly set up

1421
01:16:11,347 --> 01:16:14,415
and, externally a force
for malign influence.

1422
01:16:14,416 --> 01:16:17,319
And therefore, he
presumably sees his role

1423
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:21,088
as tempering both of those,
making it better internally

1424
01:16:21,089 --> 01:16:24,325
and reducing the bad influence
of the United States abroad.

1425
01:16:24,326 --> 01:16:27,963
More recently, tension has
been fed by colonialism

1426
01:16:27,964 --> 01:16:31,333
that denied rights and
opportunities to many Muslims

1427
01:16:31,334 --> 01:16:34,803
<i>and a cold war in which
Muslim-majority countries</i>

1428
01:16:34,804 --> 01:16:37,873
<i>were too often
treated as proxies</i>

1429
01:16:37,874 --> 01:16:42,710
<i>without regard
to their own aspirations.</i>

1430
01:16:42,711 --> 01:16:46,114
Obama's policy
in Afghanistan reflects,

1431
01:16:46,115 --> 01:16:49,785
I think to a tee,
this ambivalence he has

1432
01:16:49,786 --> 01:16:52,454
of wanting to have
successes as president

1433
01:16:52,455 --> 01:16:55,423
and not liking what the United
States does in the world.

1434
01:16:55,424 --> 01:16:58,727
So on the one hand he increases
the number of soldiers,

1435
01:16:58,728 --> 01:17:02,196
on the other hand he says, "Well, but
they're going to be out by a certain date."

1436
01:17:02,197 --> 01:17:04,900
And the result is a mishmash.

1437
01:17:04,901 --> 01:17:06,736
<i>D'Souza: How does Obama
view the state of Israel?</i>

1438
01:17:06,737 --> 01:17:08,770
<i>Pipes: Obama comes
out of a milieu</i>

1439
01:17:08,771 --> 01:17:11,173
<i>in which the state
of Israel is seen</i>

1440
01:17:11,174 --> 01:17:15,310
<i>as a horrible entity.</i>

1441
01:17:15,311 --> 01:17:18,014
Edward Said was
his professor at Columbia,

1442
01:17:19,014 --> 01:17:21,348
a leading anti-Zionist
figure.

1443
01:17:21,349 --> 01:17:24,186
Rashid Khalidi
was his friend in Chicago,

1444
01:17:24,187 --> 01:17:28,289
an important
anti-Israel professor.

1445
01:17:28,290 --> 01:17:32,060
And Ali Abunimah, an
activist blogger in Chicago,

1446
01:17:32,061 --> 01:17:34,463
who's far more vicious
than either of those two.

1447
01:17:34,464 --> 01:17:37,898
And these were his buddies
that we know about.

1448
01:17:37,899 --> 01:17:41,035
I think... might speculate
that were he reelected,

1449
01:17:41,036 --> 01:17:44,172
more of those early ideas
would come out.

1450
01:17:44,173 --> 01:17:47,308
What would you worry about if
America was no longer America?

1451
01:17:47,309 --> 01:17:52,313
I think it will be a much
more vicious environment

1452
01:17:52,314 --> 01:17:54,782
in which wars
will be more common,

1453
01:17:54,783 --> 01:17:57,085
in which extremist ideologies
will be more common,

1454
01:17:57,086 --> 01:17:59,855
and there'll be no great
power to hold them back.

1455
01:17:59,856 --> 01:18:01,923
So I think the power
of the United States

1456
01:18:01,924 --> 01:18:04,125
is crucial for people
around the world.

1457
01:18:04,126 --> 01:18:08,062
<i>- So, bad not just for us, but bad for everybody?
- Indeed.</i>

1458
01:18:08,063 --> 01:18:11,298
What prospects
does America face

1459
01:18:11,299 --> 01:18:13,535
in the Middle East
over the next few years?

1460
01:18:13,536 --> 01:18:15,905
What are the dangers
that we have to look out for?

1461
01:18:15,906 --> 01:18:18,773
The general movement
in the Middle East

1462
01:18:18,774 --> 01:18:21,843
is away from the United States
and towards Islamism,

1463
01:18:21,844 --> 01:18:23,545
radical Islam,
totalitarian Islam.

1464
01:18:23,546 --> 01:18:26,114
And the forces
who have historically

1465
01:18:26,115 --> 01:18:27,982
been aligned with us
are weaker.

1466
01:18:27,983 --> 01:18:32,219
That landscape is changing
for the worse.

1467
01:18:32,220 --> 01:18:35,923
<i>D'Souza: We are out of
Iraq and Afghanistan.</i>

1468
01:18:35,924 --> 01:18:38,293
<i>Egypt moves from being an ally</i>

1469
01:18:38,294 --> 01:18:41,163
<i>to being governed
by the radical Muslims.</i>

1470
01:18:41,164 --> 01:18:45,001
<i>Libya, Saudi Arabia, and
Jordan follow the same path.</i>

1471
01:18:46,001 --> 01:18:48,069
<i>No roadblocks
are placed in the way</i>

1472
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:51,138
<i>of Iran's pursuit
of nuclear weapons.</i>

1473
01:18:51,139 --> 01:18:53,541
<i>Israel is isolated.</i>

1474
01:18:53,542 --> 01:18:56,410
<i>The Middle East
transforms itself</i>

1475
01:18:56,411 --> 01:18:59,446
<i>into the United States
of Islam.</i>

1476
01:18:59,447 --> 01:19:03,351
<i>Obama: We have the power
to make the world we seek,</i>

1477
01:19:03,352 --> 01:19:06,154
but only if we have the courage

1478
01:19:06,155 --> 01:19:07,989
to make a new beginning.

1479
01:19:07,990 --> 01:19:11,526
The world could be a pretty
scary place in 2016...

1480
01:19:11,527 --> 01:19:15,263
Israel brought to its knees,
America's defenses weakened,

1481
01:19:15,264 --> 01:19:18,098
the Muslim world united.

1482
01:19:18,099 --> 01:19:20,835
But America would still be
a rich country.

1483
01:19:20,836 --> 01:19:22,572
<i>How does Obama change that?</i>

1484
01:19:22,573 --> 01:19:26,374
<i>How does he restore the world
before colonialism?</i>

1485
01:19:26,375 --> 01:19:29,544
<i>Actually, there is a way,
and it's a beautiful way.</i>

1486
01:19:29,545 --> 01:19:33,414
<i>I call it "debt as a weapon
of mass destruction."</i>

1487
01:19:33,415 --> 01:19:37,319
<i>What were annual deficits
for Reagan and the Bushes</i>

1488
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:40,922
<i>have become monthly deficits
under Obama.</i>

1489
01:19:40,923 --> 01:19:42,858
<i>And if we go over
the tipping point,</i>

1490
01:19:42,859 --> 01:19:47,027
<i>we don't just hit decline,
we hit collapse.</i>

1491
01:19:47,028 --> 01:19:49,630
We are rapidly approaching
the tipping point,

1492
01:19:49,631 --> 01:19:53,067
and it will be felt
around the world.

1493
01:19:53,068 --> 01:19:57,071
There will be no place to hide.

1494
01:19:57,072 --> 01:19:59,009
From 1998 until 2008,

1495
01:20:00,009 --> 01:20:02,544
I served as the Comptroller
General of the United States

1496
01:20:02,545 --> 01:20:04,545
or, in English,
the Auditor General.

1497
01:20:04,546 --> 01:20:07,214
The greatest threat
to our future

1498
01:20:07,215 --> 01:20:11,218
is our own fiscal
irresponsibility.

1499
01:20:11,219 --> 01:20:14,489
<i>We are great in part
because we have</i>

1500
01:20:14,490 --> 01:20:17,191
the largest economy on earth.

1501
01:20:17,192 --> 01:20:17,995
We're not going to stay great

1502
01:20:18,995 --> 01:20:22,297
unless we keep
a strong economy.

1503
01:20:22,298 --> 01:20:25,467
The simple fact is when
somebody holds your debt,

1504
01:20:25,468 --> 01:20:28,303
they have more leverage on you

1505
01:20:28,304 --> 01:20:31,539
and you have less
leverage on them.

1506
01:20:31,540 --> 01:20:34,675
Based upon our
current policy path,

1507
01:20:34,676 --> 01:20:36,013
we're likely to see
total debt levels

1508
01:20:37,013 --> 01:20:38,413
in the United States,

1509
01:20:38,414 --> 01:20:40,481
for the federal
government alone,

1510
01:20:40,482 --> 01:20:43,651
of over $20 trillion by 2016.

1511
01:20:43,652 --> 01:20:48,956
- So 20 trillion is $20 thousand billion.
- That's correct.

1512
01:20:48,957 --> 01:20:54,596
And that's up from 5.6
trillion in 2000.

1513
01:20:54,597 --> 01:20:59,700
From George Washington
to William Jefferson Clinton...

1514
01:20:59,701 --> 01:21:03,103
the first president
to the 42nd president,

1515
01:21:03,104 --> 01:21:06,708
we accumulated $5.6 trillion
in total debt.

1516
01:21:06,709 --> 01:21:10,210
Under George Walker Bush, 43,

1517
01:21:10,211 --> 01:21:12,080
and President Barack Obama...

1518
01:21:12,081 --> 01:21:15,683
<i>we've gone
from 5.6 trillion</i>

1519
01:21:15,684 --> 01:21:18,021
<i>to over $15 trillion</i>

1520
01:21:19,021 --> 01:21:22,222
and adding debt
at record rates.

1521
01:21:22,223 --> 01:21:25,226
We're only two to three years
away from where Greece was

1522
01:21:25,227 --> 01:21:27,395
was when Greece
had their debt crisis.

1523
01:21:27,396 --> 01:21:29,297
Now, we're not Greece.

1524
01:21:29,298 --> 01:21:31,633
We're the largest economy
on earth.

1525
01:21:31,634 --> 01:21:33,536
We're the temporary
sole superpower.

1526
01:21:33,537 --> 01:21:36,504
We issue debt
in our own currency

1527
01:21:36,505 --> 01:21:39,374
and we have the largest
reserve currency in the world.

1528
01:21:39,375 --> 01:21:41,508
And so that means
we have more time.

1529
01:21:41,509 --> 01:21:44,512
That means that we are
a temporary safe haven,

1530
01:21:44,513 --> 01:21:46,981
given uncertainties
in the world.

1531
01:21:46,982 --> 01:21:51,319
But we are not exempt from
the laws of prudent finance.

1532
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,420
If we don't put
our finances in order,

1533
01:21:53,421 --> 01:21:55,557
then the opportunities
for our children

1534
01:21:55,558 --> 01:21:58,560
and grandchildren will be less

1535
01:21:58,561 --> 01:22:01,696
and their standard of living
is likely to be less as well.

1536
01:22:01,697 --> 01:22:04,065
The first three words
of the Constitution

1537
01:22:04,066 --> 01:22:06,133
need to come alive...
"We the people."

1538
01:22:06,134 --> 01:22:07,535
We need to make sure

1539
01:22:07,536 --> 01:22:09,138
that the President
of the United States,

1540
01:22:09,139 --> 01:22:12,272
whoever that is,
will tell the truth

1541
01:22:12,273 --> 01:22:13,776
and provide
the needed leadership.

1542
01:22:13,777 --> 01:22:17,212
Our future can be
better than our past.

1543
01:22:17,213 --> 01:22:20,080
<i>D'Souza:
Will Obama's America</i>

1544
01:22:20,081 --> 01:22:22,683
<i>offer real solutions</i>

1545
01:22:22,684 --> 01:22:25,120
<i>or more slogans?</i>

1546
01:22:25,121 --> 01:22:27,222
# Obama's gonna change it #

1547
01:22:27,223 --> 01:22:32,026
# Obama's gonna lead 'em #

1548
01:22:32,027 --> 01:22:36,134
# We're gonna change
the world #

1549
01:22:38,134 --> 01:22:40,735
# Yes, we can can can #

1550
01:22:40,736 --> 01:22:42,504
# Yes, we can can can #

1551
01:22:42,505 --> 01:22:45,373
# Yes, we can can can,
yes, we can... #

1552
01:22:45,374 --> 01:22:49,377
We meet at one of those
defining moments,

1553
01:22:49,378 --> 01:22:53,347
a moment when our nation
is at war,

1554
01:22:53,348 --> 01:22:54,817
our economy is in turmoil,

1555
01:22:54,818 --> 01:22:57,084
and the American promise

1556
01:22:57,085 --> 01:22:59,687
has been threatened once more.

1557
01:22:59,688 --> 01:23:02,289
Change happens because
the American people demand it,

1558
01:23:02,290 --> 01:23:05,560
because they rise up
and insist on new ideas

1559
01:23:05,561 --> 01:23:07,629
- # Yes, we can... #
- and new leadership.

1560
01:23:07,630 --> 01:23:10,764
- # Yes, we can... #
- A new politics for a new time.

1561
01:23:10,765 --> 01:23:14,502
- # Yes, we can... #
- America, this is one of those moments.

1562
01:23:14,503 --> 01:23:16,471
# Can can can,
yes, we can... #

1563
01:23:16,472 --> 01:23:20,075
It's time for us
to change America!

1564
01:23:20,076 --> 01:23:22,390
# Yes, we can! #

1565
01:23:35,390 --> 01:23:37,460
<i>D'Souza: The first
time, we did not know</i>

1566
01:23:37,461 --> 01:23:40,334
<i>what change would look like.</i>

1567
01:23:45,334 --> 01:23:47,406
<i>Now we do.</i>

1568
01:23:50,406 --> 01:23:53,178
<i>The first time, we did not
know Barack Obama.</i>

1569
01:23:56,178 --> 01:23:58,381
<i>Now we do.</i>

1570
01:24:00,381 --> 01:24:03,651
<i>Which dream will we carry
into 2016?</i>

1571
01:24:03,652 --> 01:24:07,756
<i>The American dream
or Obama's dream?</i>

1572
01:24:08,756 --> 01:24:12,896
<i>The future is not in my hands.</i>

1573
01:24:13,896 --> 01:24:16,835
<i>It's not even in Obama's hands.</i>

1574
01:24:19,835 --> 01:24:22,509
<i>The future is in your hands.</i>

1575
01:24:27,509 --> 01:24:29,633
<i>( instrumental music playing )</i>

1576
01:25:24,633 --> 01:25:27,994
<i>( instrumental music playing )</i>